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(Chicago Trib)   Singer Michelle Shocked shocks San Francisco audience with anti-gay rant, tells people to spread the word; future show venues drop her like a crazy hot potato   (chicagotribune.com ) divider line
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2013-03-19 06:10:59 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: I thought she was gay.


All the little lesbians in college loved her music back in 1990. What a kick in the box.
 
2013-03-19 06:20:12 AM  
It's spelled "San Francisco" not "Fransisco."
 
2013-03-19 06:37:13 AM  

nucular bum: Dayum, what a shame. I liked her music. Back in the day she was pretty righteous -- hard left-leaning, populist '80s folkie who even recorded a track ("Fogtown") with pro-queer punks MDC on her album "Short Sharp Shocked," on which front cover is a photo of her getting choked by a cop with his baton.

Michelle, I am disappoint. Go fark off to Topeka and the Phelpses, or go join those Warren Jeffs-worshipping freaks in Colorado City. Or better yet, rediscover that queer Anarchist folkie that you used to be, cast off the holy roller yoke and apologize to your fans.


Yeah, very surprising.  But she always seemed a little....off.  Delusional people frequently turned to fundamentalist religion for comfort.  I wouldn't be surprised to see her reject all this born-again crap a few years from now, but the damage is done.
 
2013-03-19 06:39:11 AM  
Being cynical, I wonder if this was a desperate attempt to rally her career by endearing herself to the born-again crowd who will inevitably hail her as heroine.  Since her old audience wasn't buying many of her records, and the evangelicals probably had no clue who she is, it almost seems like a smart career move.
 
2013-03-19 06:40:33 AM  
Gee, a gay fundie blasting gays? That truly is shocking.

/not really
 
2013-03-19 06:45:00 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Fluorescent Testicle: Forget romantic comedies, friggin' Mario games have harder plots to guess.

That is one of the most awesome sentences in the history of fark


So very much THIS.
 
2013-03-19 06:47:02 AM  

vartian: If you are going to go, go big.


That truly is the Texas way.

/no snark, that's just the way Texans are, in good ways and in this case bad.
//Texas (DFW) liberal who went West instead of going to Austin.
 
2013-03-19 06:48:41 AM  

This Face Left Blank: Atomic Spunk: Unfortunately, this controversy will probably help her career.

Look for her to release a country music CD in the near future.


Not so sure about that.  http://goqnotes.com/4005/city-bans-country-performer-after-anti-gay-l y rics/
Is the hip-hop genre ready for a butch white female star?
 
2013-03-19 06:50:18 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Man, Bob Dylan gets religion and we get a lot of songs with awesome gospel style layered over blues about how quitting drugs is hard and getting your life back on track is painful but worthwhile.  The Beatles get (strange) religion, and you get five-minute sitar ballads about how everyone should relax and get along and shiat.

Stupid pop-rock bullshiat kiddies get religion and we get rants about evil homosexuals.

That's a pretty good illustration of why modern music has kinda gone downhill since the 80s, I think.  The singers just aren't real people with actual life experiences and problems and so on anymore.


Are you trying to tell me Justin Beiber doesn't have street cred???
 
2013-03-19 06:52:11 AM  

SilentStrider: Who?


As this is someone who I've never heard of until she made some outlandish remarks, I find myself not caring about her.

Attention whore likes attention.
 
2013-03-19 07:12:36 AM  
No no no no.... first you go on a homophobic tirade, THEN you come out.

/Read the Farking Manual
 
2013-03-19 07:18:06 AM  
That's f*cking disappointing, considering it was an intentional slap in the face to the people who supported her (well...anyone with a sense of decency).I hadn't thought about her in years until I heard "Anchorage" the other day while I was out shopping. Oh well, maybe she'll get a gig busking at next year's CPAC or making videos with Victoria Jackson, because she can pretty much kiss her touring career goodbye.

The one positive thing to come out of it, is that the public reaction shows how much attitudes have changed in the past 20 years or so. DOMA will be history very soon, I have no doubt.
 
2013-03-19 07:31:25 AM  

Atomic Spunk: Unfortunately, this controversy will probably help her career.


Came here to say the same thing.  Now she'll have dedicated followers.  Everything in entertainment is calculated.
 
2013-03-19 07:32:52 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: No no no no.... first you go on a homophobic tirade, THEN you come out.

/Read the Farking Manual


She must be taking lessons from Marcus Bachmann.
 
2013-03-19 07:42:48 AM  

Infernalist: Spad31: Wait...someone explain why being gay is somehow special and deserving of any attention.

Explain to me how you came to the conclusion that anyone in this thread said that gays are special and/or deserve attention.


He just read the word "gay" and whipped out his junk ready for hot man-on-man barebacking, and/or American football. Imagine his dismay when it was about a woman, and no football.
 
2013-03-19 07:43:57 AM  
Having read the thread and after careful consideration all I have to say is:

Well, bye.
 
2013-03-19 07:45:13 AM  

DubyaHater: Atomic Spunk: Unfortunately, this controversy will probably help her career.

Came here to say the same thing.  Now she'll have dedicated followers.  Everything in entertainment is calculated.


Those people are a dying breed, so it's a pretty poor strategy for any entertainer.  Is Victoria Jackson getting a lot of big acting gigs?  Have you seen Ted Nugent do anything besides speak to other wackos at conventions?  What's Stephen Baldwin up to these days?  It's a pretty bad idea to throw your lot in with one specialized group of nuts whose numbers are dwindling every day.  You'd only do it if you really believed in what those nuts believe.
 
2013-03-19 07:52:03 AM  
needs more cowbell prescription medication
 
2013-03-19 07:52:45 AM  
man, hadn't heard that name in YEARS!

Lot of East Texas inside jokes on her first studio album.

oh well, she just pissed off her core audience.
 
2013-03-19 07:53:47 AM  

Jim_Callahan: The singers just aren't real people with actual life experiences and problems and so on anymore.


What kind of "actual life experiences" did Dylan and the Beatles have?  They hung out with people, got high, and wrote music.  It's no different.

The difference is recording studios manufacturing pop stars rather than discovering them.
 
2013-03-19 08:03:26 AM  

kwame: The difference is recording studios manufacturing pop stars rather than discovering them.


www.showbiz411.com
 
2013-03-19 08:07:16 AM  
Irrelevant singer says something shocking to try to become relevant.  Next.
 
2013-03-19 08:22:09 AM  
I'm guessing she just wants to be left alone.
And thought her cunning plan through very well.
 
2013-03-19 08:23:22 AM  

KellyKellyKelly: Irrelevant singer says something shocking to try to become relevant.  Next.


Yeah it feels a bit calculated when you implore people to put it on twitter.

"I'M SAYING STUFF HERE, MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS"
 
2013-03-19 08:25:30 AM  

JohnnyApocalypse: I'm guessing most the posters here are under 30 or just weren't into the 80s indie scene. Michelle Shocked was (was) a fairly big name once.


I'm 42 and have never heard of her. Or at least i don't ever remember hearing of her. In any case, if she was a lesbian before and then became a born again Christian, it would stand to reason that God doesn't hate gays because He obviously was willing to be there for her.

/is a Christian conservative
//is not and never was gay
///God does not hate gays
 
2013-03-19 08:28:02 AM  
She's just angling for that plum gig of playing at the RNC next year.
 
2013-03-19 08:28:34 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: www.showbiz411.com


Oh, goody.  One example.
 
2013-03-19 08:33:42 AM  
So does this make her the lesbian Clayton Bigsby?

ionetheurbandaily.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-19 08:37:00 AM  

i40.tinypic.com

RIP Shocked

 
2013-03-19 08:40:00 AM  
Brubold:
/is a Christian conservative
//is not and never was gay
///God does not hate gays


2/10

Think she's backsliding? Is she saved? Just trying to be in the world not of it amirite?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjN_IDhCDZE
 
2013-03-19 08:43:07 AM  

kwame: Quantum Apostrophe: www.showbiz411.com

Oh, goody.  One example.


ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-03-19 08:47:54 AM  

nucular bum: Dayum, what a shame. I liked her music. Back in the day she was pretty righteous -- hard left-leaning, populist '80s folkie who even recorded a track ("Fogtown") with pro-queer punks MDC on her album "Short Sharp Shocked," on which front cover is a photo of her getting choked by a cop with his baton.

Michelle, I am disappoint. Go fark off to Topeka and the Phelpses, or go join those Warren Jeffs-worshipping freaks in Colorado City. Or better yet, rediscover that queer Anarchist folkie that you used to be, cast off the holy roller yoke and apologize to your fans.


Short Sharp Shocked is great, also Texas Campfire recordings. Several posters have used the term 'self hating lesbian' closeted, etc. I'd say it's spot on. Too bad. Religion has negated her talent.
 
2013-03-19 08:48:09 AM  
Michelle Shocked. I remember her. She had a song, once, a while back.

I'm just gonna assume she's that one lez-bean with a self-deprecating sense of humor.

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2013-03-19 08:52:28 AM  
Now I am hearing that she is supposedly a paranoid schizophrenic. I did not know of this before, I thought she was somewhat off but I figured it was drugs/drink. if true, It puts an interesting twist on the crap she said. Religious zeal+mental illness can be a ugly combination.

Hopefully she resolves whatever the fark her inner conflicts are and apologizes for that noise.

http://www.johncodyonline.com/home/articles/2007-10-MichelleShocked. ht ml
 
2013-03-19 08:56:14 AM  

vartian: If you are going to go, go big.


www.trbimg.com
If the stressed-out mom jeans are any indication she went big a while back.
 
2013-03-19 08:59:12 AM  
San Francisco, you've been trolled.
 
2013-03-19 08:59:26 AM  
Wow, haven't heard that name in a while.  Well, if she was actually still on any playlists of any college age lesbians she took care of that.

Countdown to Ani DiFranco saying something similar in 10...9...
 
2013-03-19 09:01:59 AM  

cc_rider: Now I am hearing that she is supposedly a paranoid schizophrenic. I did not know of this before, I thought she was somewhat off but I figured it was drugs/drink. if true, It puts an interesting twist on the crap she said. Religious zeal+mental illness can be a ugly combination.

Hopefully she resolves whatever the fark her inner conflicts are and apologizes for that noise.

http://www.johncodyonline.com/home/articles/2007-10-MichelleShocked. ht ml


I want to see studies of religious zealots brains. Guessing mental illness and religious zealotry are very closely aligned in terms of what areas of the brain function or over function or are missing. Bet Republicanism is right in there with it too.

We won't ever see it, but it'd be awesome to understand why some people cannot be reasoned with, who glom onto stories with no possible explanation based in reason, and who actively seek out to condemn in others what they are most concerned exists in themselves.
 
2013-03-19 09:03:44 AM  

CarnySaur: I remember the more innocent times when she only complained that her record label wouldn't let her appear in blackface on the "Arkansas Traveler" album cover.


At the recent South by Southwest music conference in Austin, Texas, for example, she gave a rambling keynote address in which she compared the black funk-rock group Fishbone to the blackface minstrels of 100 years ago. Shocked now concedes, ``My performance could be called into question.``

Say what now?  (Though Arkansas Traveller is still a pretty kick-ass album.)
 
2013-03-19 09:04:29 AM  
A bi friend of mine said about this incident, "There's no hatred like self-hatred."  I think that about sums it up.
 
2013-03-19 09:21:33 AM  

namatad: I always thought she was a lesbian. Oh wait, she was born again recently?
ROFL


Aw, crap. She spent most of her life fighting her batshiat fundie mother, only to fall down the rabbit hole herself. Sad. She's a great musician.
 
2013-03-19 09:23:52 AM  

DubyaHater: Atomic Spunk: Unfortunately, this controversy will probably help her career.

Came here to say the same thing.  Now she'll have dedicated followers.  Everything in entertainment is calculated.


No. She has (had) a dedicated following. Most of them are lesbians. You don't do revival albums/tours and drop the fans that still remember and love you to go chasing a group of people who, once they hear what you're famous for, aren't going to like you no matter what you say about homosexuals nowadays.

I doubt this was calculated. It comes off as more of an on-stage breakdown. Ugly, whatever the cause.
 
2013-03-19 09:26:38 AM  

perigee: Michelle Shocked. I remember her. She had a song, once, a while back.

I'm just gonna assume she's that one lez-bean with a self-deprecating sense of humor.


I remember the name, but the song I thought I knew her from was actually by Suzanne Vega,
 
2013-03-19 09:28:57 AM  
I'm gonna have to put on "Captain Swing" today just because. Her early albums were excellent. Even with this outburst, you'd do yourself a favor by checking them out.
 
2013-03-19 09:30:57 AM  
Let it ride, peeps...She's on the Greener Side now.
 
2013-03-19 09:32:48 AM  

Generation_D: Texas crazy wins out in the end.



Bummer. Nice lady. Towards the end of her AA show last summer she handed out a songlist for requests and played at least 10 write-ins.  And then had her husband on the phone while she dedicated one to him. I joked with her after the set about how the crappy weather brought Texans with it.

/Dan Rather was also appearing up the street that night
 
2013-03-19 09:34:23 AM  

Sgt Otter: I remember the name, but the song I thought I knew her from was actually by Suzanne Vega.


Fortunately I know from personal experience that Suzanne Vega is *not* a lesbian.

/In my dreams
//Call me, Suzanne!
 
2013-03-19 09:37:16 AM  

namatad: SilentStrider: Who?

I always thought she was a lesbian. Oh wait, she was born again recently?
ROFL

What an arsehole.


I liked her back in the 90's, and I could've sworn she was a lesbian.
 
2013-03-19 09:49:48 AM  
FTFA: "You can go on Twitter and say, 'Michelle Shocked says God hates (anti-gay slur).'" The Twittersphere reacted accordingly.

I'm wondering exactly what this means.  It almost sounds like her fans supported her on Twitter, but some how I doubt it happened that way.

/should that line have been written in sarcastic font?
 
2013-03-19 09:54:06 AM  
I'm being sincere when I say that one of my very favorite things in the world is when Fark links to a story about a public figure doing something controversial, and the Weeners in the thread is "Who?"
 
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