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2013-03-18 11:26:35 PM  
 
2013-03-18 11:28:35 PM  
Legendary? Never even heard of it.

Manimal

This could make an interesting series, though.

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-03-18 11:30:39 PM  
For a show designed to sell toys, Captain Power was well written, ahead of it's time and dealt with mature themes such as war, death and free will. The only reason it didn't last very long is because "super early time slot + expensive production costs + low toy sales = cancellation". JMS had half of the second season all planned out before it was canned, so hopefully we'll get to see the material from his unused scripts in the reboot.
 
2013-03-18 11:45:08 PM  
I was really hoping for Max Headroom. It's more relevant than ever.
 
2013-03-18 11:50:51 PM  

Pribar: The shows intro, to jog your memory


I remember the teaser spots before the show came out.
The tv went static with captain power fading in and out of view annoucing that he was communicating from THE FUTURE!

But, like many, I remember that there was a show, watching it, but not much about it.

And yes, Max headroom was a great show. But a product of its time. How could it be upgraded?
 
2013-03-19 12:17:48 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Nadie_AZ: I've never heard of this one, though.

I still had this thing until very recently, but at some point it became non-functional:

[www.panelsonpages.com image 600x379]

Can I shoot at the new show?!


I had that when I was a kid.  I remember it being a piece of crap that didn't work very well.  Until now, I had no idea that it was actually tied into a TV show.
 
2013-03-19 12:21:35 AM  

DoblerMeyer: Relatively Obscure: Nadie_AZ: I've never heard of this one, though.

I still had this thing until very recently, but at some point it became non-functional:

[www.panelsonpages.com image 600x379]

Can I shoot at the new show?!

I had that when I was a kid.  I remember it being a piece of crap that didn't work very well.  Until now, I had no idea that it was actually tied into a TV show.


Really?  Mine did everything it was supposed to do.  In reality, though, nothing on the shows that you shot reacted at all to it (of course), so the excitement was pretty limited.
 
2013-03-19 12:24:23 AM  
plif.courageunfettered.com
 
2013-03-19 12:29:17 AM  
Didn't the Scorpions steal some footage from Captain Power for their "Rhythm of Love" video?  Or was it a direct tie-in?  I forget.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFAf_29KYTs
 
2013-03-19 12:46:18 AM  
I liked MANTIS, and Shatner's TEKWAR.  There was another show similar to MANTIS, but it was about a paralyzed white guy with a big, sandwich-press-like techno-coffin in his van, it would vac-form a mobility suit around him that let him walk plus fight crime.  Can't remember the name of that one.

First seasons of Andromeda and Earth: Final Conflict were pretty good, but both jumped the space shark.

Seaquest DSV  had some interesting ideas and Peter Delouise was awesome in it. Didn;t the teenage kid from that show die or something?

I would also like to see more episodes of Alien Nation.
 
2013-03-19 12:47:59 AM  

Ishkur: I'm surprised no one's tried to revive the "80s super futuristic intelligent vehicle" genre. Airwolf, Street Hawk, Automan, Knight Rider.... it was a great time to believe in artificial intelligence.



Oh, the schoolyard arguments about Airwolf v. Blue Thunder.


/Airwolf, clearly.
 
2013-03-19 12:49:58 AM  

Tentacle: One show I wish they'd bring back is the Max Headroom TV series
[dvdmedia.ign.com image 468x263]


I'd settle for them sorting out the legal rights to the original so they can release it on disc.
 
2013-03-19 01:00:04 AM  

Dragonflew: Anyone remember The Phoenix? Or to get really obscure, did anyone see the pilot for Wishman?


...ohgod, I thought I was the only person who remembered the pilot for Wishman (I don't think it ever really went BEYOND the pilot, but I do remember it) :D
 
2013-03-19 01:04:47 AM  

Any Pie Left: Seaquest DSV  had some interesting ideas and Peter Delouise was awesome in it. Didn;t the teenage kid from that show die or something?


He hanged himself but that was a coupla years after the show ended
 
2013-03-19 01:11:08 AM  

theflatline: [content.epixhd.com image 850x531]


At least Remo Williams was based on a hilarious series of books.
 
2013-03-19 01:23:31 AM  

FuryOfFirestorm: For a show designed to sell toys, Captain Power was well written, ahead of it's time and dealt with mature themes such as war, death and free will. The only reason it didn't last very long is because "super early time slot + expensive production costs + low toy sales = cancellation". JMS had half of the second season all planned out before it was canned, so hopefully we'll get to see the material from his unused scripts in the reboot.


Agreed. As much as I remember of it, having been like 8 at the time, the actual plots of the episodes were pretty good; certainly way better than Power Rangers or any of the crap that was on in the 90s.  The series ended with their base being invaded, and one of the pilots, cornered and injured sacrificing herself to activate the self-destruct after everyone else had escaped. The action bits where you were supposed to use the toy were of course pretty simplistic, but looked a lot better than most video games we had at the time, even if they were short and never changed.    I had two or three of the VHS tapes and I got to the point of doing perfect runs without even trying.

   As I recall the toy/game was pretty simple, like most 80s electronic toys; it worked sort of like duck hunt or any other "light gun" game.  The toy started with 5 "power points" and everytime you show a target on screen, you gained a point and any time the toy detected a hit you lost 1 (or maybe more).  The problem was it topped out at like 25 points and then you'd have to reset it, which could happen several times per action sequence once you got good at it.

  I think it would be a tricky show to modernize now though.  Any interactive toy would have to be pretty advanced to please kids of today, and probably too expensive to sell much as a result.  I actually think its the sort of thing that could work as episodic content on systems like WiiU or XBox 360, but it would probably cost too much per episode to produce and sell that way unless they jammed in advertising somehow.
 
2013-03-19 01:35:14 AM  

eggrolls: Tentacle: One show I wish they'd bring back is the Max Headroom TV series
[dvdmedia.ign.com image 468x263]

I'd settle for them sorting out the legal rights to the original so they can release it on disc.


Que?
 
2013-03-19 01:49:43 AM  
I was hoping it was Quark but then I remembered that was the 70s....
 
2013-03-19 02:04:18 AM  
Epic "done in one." Did it only air in Horse Cave Kentucky or Lysite Wyoming?
 
2013-03-19 02:11:25 AM  

antron: No love for:

[i46.tinypic.com image 400x565]


Oh man, I remember Mantis.  It used to come on Fridays right before the X-Files.  At the time I liked it, but I was a kid and I get the feeling if I went back and watched it, it would seem pretty cheesy.

ds615: Says Lay, "We felt the original [show] didn't really have an origin story. It just kicks in with Captain Power, and you don't know who he is." There's nothing to explain who this guy is, and why he's a hero.

And this is why this will blow.
I don't need an origin story.  If something happens later that I should know, flashback.  Otherwise you're just wasting my time.

You meet people every day.  Do you know all of their "origin stories"?  No, you accept who they are and move on.  If you spend enough time with them, you learn more about them and their past.  That is the right way to write shows and novels.


No, I don't.  But then I wouldn't want to watch a TV show about the people I meet every day.
 
2013-03-19 02:16:05 AM  
www.tvgoodness.com
 
2013-03-19 02:17:04 AM  

blue_2501: Kanemano: Manimal turned into a shark and ate a guy in the pilot.........the hero of a kids show turned into a shark and ate a guy.


got to love the 80's

Fark that... I'm going to find a torrent of The Real Ghostbusters.


Okay.
 
2013-03-19 02:26:25 AM  
Heh. When Stargate SG-1 began in the mid 90's, it reminded me of Captain Power, except with MacGuyver as a sarcastic ass rather than the boy scout.

/Carter = Pilot
 
2013-03-19 02:40:35 AM  

Ishkur: I'm surprised no one's tried to revive the "80s super futuristic intelligent vehicle" genre. Airwolf, Street Hawk, Automan, Knight Rider.... it was a great time to believe in artificial intelligence.


Buck Rogers and Wilma.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.
 
2013-03-19 03:00:34 AM  

bikerific: Ishkur: I'm surprised no one's tried to revive the "80s super futuristic intelligent vehicle" genre. Airwolf, Street Hawk, Automan, Knight Rider.... it was a great time to believe in artificial intelligence.

Oh, the schoolyard arguments about Airwolf v. Blue Thunder.

/Airwolf, clearly.


Of course. Primarily due to the fact that Airwolf has the unlimited ammo hack.
 
2013-03-19 04:29:14 AM  
CSB time:

I had one of these toys back in the 80s.  I had been fooling around with some BASIC programming and found out that on my old-school amber monochrome monitor if I cleared the screen black and then amber as fast as my computer could go I could trip out the light sensor in the toy and make my own target for the gun.  I spent hours upon hours alternating the speed, seeing if I could make smaller targets with ASCII characters but keep the refresh speed, etc etc.  I think that more than anything started me down the path of game programming....that and typing in endless code from the back of Byte and Compute! magazines.  My friends had Atari and C64s, and I had an IBM XT....I was insanely jealous and would try to port the games in those magazines to IBM.  Sometimes it worked but mostly it didn't.  However, when I showed them that I could make a Captain Power "game" with my computer, the tables turned briefly. :)

As to TFA - as anyone who has gone back to re-watch favorite cartoons from their childhood will tell you....if you remember something being cool from grade school, just leave it the fark alone, you're only setting yourself up for disappointment. *cough GI Joe cough*  Hope I'm wrong about this one, but I'm kinda betting this might suck.
 
2013-03-19 04:31:24 AM  

Ishkur: I'm surprised no one's tried to revive the "80s super futuristic intelligent vehicle" genre. Airwolf, Street Hawk, Automan, Knight Rider.... it was a great time to believe in artificial intelligence.


They did a team Knight rider in the 90's  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Knight_Rider
 
2013-03-19 04:37:33 AM  
meh, I was hoping for Quark with Richard Benjamin but apparently it missed the 80s by two years.

all I remember about Captain Power was that toy someone posted the ad for abpve and that Sven Ole Thorsen was in it.
 
2013-03-19 04:38:27 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-19 04:42:14 AM  
reboot a small wonder with soleil moon fry-daddy as a sexbot during the drama llama social upheaval of the mid 21st century

the 80s mostly sucked except for the magic that is culture club. and probably the minutemen
 
2013-03-19 05:19:56 AM  
They *did* try to re-make Misfits of Science.

I think it was called 'Heroes', if I'm not mistaken.
 
2013-03-19 05:44:33 AM  
Can anyone help me remember a sci-fi show i remember from the 90s? i remember the opening credits of zooming along ruined streets with these green and blue flickering fluorescent lights on the sides of the streets (not signs, just columns on the side) that would blow up SPECTACULARLY if you shot them. Also something about different types of robots being fought by the protagonists, which i can't remember (you had to shoot them in the eyes cause the armour everywhere else couldn't be penetrated). There was also a superweapon flying robot of some kind.

I believe i was about 5 when the show aired, so please forgive my lack of detail.
 
2013-03-19 05:52:42 AM  

Pribar: The shows intro, to jog your memory


OK, after watching that is seems very familiar. I'm just missing the blue and green flourescent things on the sides of the street that blew up most spectacularly. That was the one part of the show that i remember the best.
 
2013-03-19 05:55:31 AM  

archnem: CSB time:

I had one of these toys back in the 80s.  I had been fooling around with some BASIC programming and found out that on my old-school amber monochrome monitor if I cleared the screen black and then amber as fast as my computer could go I could trip out the light sensor in the toy and make my own target for the gun.  I spent hours upon hours alternating the speed, seeing if I could make smaller targets with ASCII characters but keep the refresh speed, etc etc.  I think that more than anything started me down the path of game programming....that and typing in endless code from the back of Byte and Compute! magazines.  My friends had Atari and C64s, and I had an IBM XT....I was insanely jealous and would try to port the games in those magazines to IBM.  Sometimes it worked but mostly it didn't.  However, when I showed them that I could make a Captain Power "game" with my computer, the tables turned briefly. :)

As to TFA - as anyone who has gone back to re-watch favorite cartoons from their childhood will tell you....if you remember something being cool from grade school, just leave it the fark alone, you're only setting yourself up for disappointment. *cough GI Joe cough*  Hope I'm wrong about this one, but I'm kinda betting this might suck.


The superman/batman cartoons from the 90s from my childhood were only very slightly tarnished when i watched it again. Still very good.
 
2013-03-19 05:56:09 AM  
Does anyone else remember Space Rangers?

/another vote here for Max Headroom too.
 
2013-03-19 06:13:01 AM  

Archie Goodwin: Does anyone else remember Space Rangers?

/another vote here for Max Headroom too.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Rangers_(video_game)
 
2013-03-19 06:31:17 AM  

Smoking GNU: Archie Goodwin: Does anyone else remember Space Rangers?

/another vote here for Max Headroom too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Rangers_(video_game)


I was thinking more of the TV series - a whole six episodes, filmed in glorious Crap-o-vision™.
 
2013-03-19 06:42:16 AM  

buckler: blue_2501: Kanemano: Manimal turned into a shark and ate a guy in the pilot.........the hero of a kids show turned into a shark and ate a guy.


got to love the 80's

Fark that... I'm going to find a torrent of The Real Ghostbusters.

Okay.


No, he said The Real Ghostbusters, not that crap.
 
2013-03-19 07:54:02 AM  

skepticultist: eggrolls: Tentacle: One show I wish they'd bring back is the Max Headroom TV series
[dvdmedia.ign.com image 468x263]

I'd settle for them sorting out the legal rights to the original so they can release it on disc.

Que?


I love you so much.
 
2013-03-19 08:15:03 AM  
Holy the crap!  I loved Captain Power when I was a kid.  I still have my VHS tapes for the 'game'.  Sadly I don't own the toys anymore.

/off to ebay
 
2013-03-19 08:21:33 AM  

buckler: theflatline: [content.epixhd.com image 850x531]

At least Remo Williams was based on a hilariously  GOODseries of books.


FTFY

/Sinanju
 
2013-03-19 08:28:36 AM  

Solid Muldoon: I've never heard of it.

Call me when they reboot Time Tunnel, Land of the Giants and Rat Patrol.


www.quantumleap-alsplace.com

Would like a word with you.
 
2013-03-19 08:46:00 AM  
Oh HELL YES! I effing LOVED Captain Power! The interactive VHS tapes occupied a great deal of my time. AWESOME!
 
2013-03-19 08:53:08 AM  
It was a time of darkness and destruction.  A time of dread.  Thanks to the twisted designs of a single man, the machines meant to end war for all time instead became the executioners of civilization.  Humanity's history tells us such times produces heroes and heroines dedicated to turning back the darkness.

And so it was in the 22nd century, the age of the machine.

/Pretty sure this wasn't Captain Power
//But it should have been.
 
2013-03-19 09:21:01 AM  

andrewagill: It was a time of darkness and destruction.  A time of dread.  Thanks to the twisted designs of a single man, the machines meant to end war for all time instead became the executioners of civilization.  Humanity's history tells us such times produces heroes and heroines dedicated to turning back the darkness.

And so it was in the 22nd century, the age of the machine.

/Pretty sure this wasn't Captain Power
//But it should have been.


NOOOO!

It is from captain power!

I have been looking for this clip since forever.  I can die a happy man now.
 
2013-03-19 09:38:42 AM  
shiat, I still have this.

lh5.ggpht.com
 
2013-03-19 09:53:57 AM  

El_Swino: Wow, I just had to forward this link to a bunch of former co-workers.  You see, our company invented the "interactive" technology this show was based on, and we did the CGI, effects, and post-production.  Took out patents for the technology and everything.  I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't get a mention.


My childhood thanks your company.
 
2013-03-19 09:55:45 AM  

Dragonflew: Nuclear Monk: Hmmm...there was one about a family that travelled to an alternate universe after going into a pyramid that I always liked.  Can't remember what it was called though.

Otherworld?


Yes I remember that. Loved it but it got cancelled quickly. I was just a kid when it was on.
 
2013-03-19 10:00:17 AM  

Shadow Blasko: Ishkur: I'm surprised no one's tried to revive the "80s super futuristic intelligent vehicle" genre. Airwolf, Street Hawk, Automan, Knight Rider.... it was a great time to believe in artificial intelligence.

Well... I heard someone tried.. but I refused to believe it.


Yeah, they farked it up... I tried to watch it, but they went overboard with the magical shiat KITT could do, and they just put the word 'nano' infront of everything to explain it. I think I made it through the full pilot...
 
2013-03-19 10:04:20 AM  

DigitalCoffee: Now go back just a little further so we can get: Space 1999, Buck Rogers, (the REAL) Battlestar Galactica, Man from Atlantis, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, The Incredible Hulk, and The Land of the Lost.

/tra la la
//la la la la
///tra la la
//// la la la la


You mean Mormons in Space? Yeah, when I was a kid, BSG was cool, then I grew up and realized that was so vapid, it made Buck Rogers look like Shakespeare. There's a reason the newer version was so popular, it actually mirrored what was going on in the world, and what we would probably expect from a situation like that, as far as government control, hyper-patriotism, and cabin fever go.

If they tried to redo Land of the Lost, they'd just fark it all to Hell. Part of its charm is its cheesiness.
 
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