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(Huffington Post)   Study finds MSNBC programming consists of 85% "opinion" and 15% "news", while Fox News programming consists of 55% opinion and 45% Republican Party press releases disguised as news   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 137
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2013-03-18 09:15:50 PM
subby nailed it
 
2013-03-18 09:20:15 PM
The headline is right on the money.  MSNBC does not pretend that its opinion shows are hard news.  Fox is trying to pass off propaganda as news.
 
2013-03-18 09:20:39 PM
Where does RT fit into this picture?

They are the most hilarious IMO. They air promos of themselves that compare them to AlJazeera and loudly proclaim they're not like MSNBC or Fox or CNN - and then they act just like MSNBC, Fox and CNN.
 
2013-03-18 09:25:37 PM
so once again Fox News shows that they are more Fair and Balanced than the other networks!

+1 internet for subby.
 
2013-03-18 09:37:57 PM
Do you guys meet up to spooge on each other, or can you do it remotely?

Groupthink, it's what's for breakfast.
 
2013-03-18 09:39:44 PM
Where does Fark.tv fit in?
 
2013-03-18 09:44:46 PM
Let's be fair - 85% of MSNBC is, in fact, quite terrible.
 
2013-03-18 09:46:36 PM

DamnYankees: Let's be fair - 85% of MSNBC is, in fact, quite terrible.


Ed Schultz is at least entertaining.

Although I worry that he will have a heart attack in the middle of the show.
 
2013-03-18 10:00:36 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: DamnYankees: Let's be fair - 85% of MSNBC is, in fact, quite terrible.

Ed Schultz is at least entertaining.

Although I worry that he will have a heart attack in the middle of the show.


I hate to break it to you, but he's off the nightly lineup and is being replaced by Chris Hayes
 
2013-03-18 10:01:08 PM
A headline that disses MSNBC?

I have extra anal cream for those in need
 
2013-03-18 10:02:04 PM

Lsherm: Do you guys meet up to spooge on each other, or can you do it remotely?

Groupthink, it's what's for breakfast.


Breaking News: Like-minded people tend to congregate on web-sites that appeal to them. More at 11.
 
2013-03-18 10:08:32 PM
Comedy Central still has more news than either.
 
2013-03-18 10:13:27 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: so once again Fox News shows that they are more Fair and Balanced than the other networks!


Well, I'll be damned.  You have a sense of humor.  Good for you!
 
2013-03-18 10:15:35 PM

cman: A headline that disses MSNBC?

I have extra anal cream for those in need


No thanks.  You need it more than I do.

Anyway, the headline appears to be dissing FOX.
 
2013-03-18 10:22:42 PM

nmrsnr: tenpoundsofcheese: DamnYankees: Let's be fair - 85% of MSNBC is, in fact, quite terrible.

Ed Schultz is at least entertaining.

Although I worry that he will have a heart attack in the middle of the show.

I hate to break it to you, but he's off the nightly lineup and is being replaced by Chris Hayes


Is Chris Hayes as entertaining as Ed?  He has those dorky glasses, so he has that going for him on the humor side.
 
2013-03-18 10:24:19 PM
MSNBC does not claim to be "fair and balanced," nor do they call themselves MSNBC News. Fox does both.
 
2013-03-18 11:00:20 PM

CruiserTwelve: MSNBC does not claim to be "fair and balanced," nor do they call themselves MSNBC News. Fox does both.


MSNBC claims they "Lean Forward".  Fox News Channel does not.
Comedy Channel has infomercials on that are not at all comedic and people seem to think that John Stewart is reporting news.
And MTV doesn't show that many music videos anymore.
 
2013-03-18 11:04:24 PM

CruiserTwelve: MSNBC does not claim to be "fair and balanced," nor do they call themselves MSNBC News. Fox does both.


So the website NBCNews.com is just a coincidence?

Now that your "at least they tell us when its opinion" bullshiat has been shot down, this is the next brilliant talking point?
 
2013-03-18 11:10:55 PM
This is silly. Seriously. I rarely see anyone cheerleading any flavor of network newsertainment on fark. Then again, anyone that would white knight RL or the faux news crowd has probably been ignored for a while now.

This is fark derp derp. We aren't supposed to argue about which news source is better or worse. They all suck and the whole farking point of this site is to make fun of them. derp derp.

/herp
 
2013-03-18 11:15:20 PM

sammyk: This is silly. Seriously. I rarely see anyone cheerleading any flavor of network newsertainment on fark. Then again, anyone that would white knight RL or the faux news crowd has probably been ignored for a while now.

This is fark derp derp. We aren't supposed to argue about which news source is better or worse. They all suck and the whole farking point of this site is to make fun of them. derp derp.

/herp


All news channels are not news

They are "News Entertainment" (see the Wikipedia page for "Sports Entertainment"). They are there to make money. MSNBC targets a specific demographic while Fox targets a completely other demographic.

Listening to "newscasters" talking about tariffs doesnt bring in the viewers that something like "Look at JLos dress!" would
 
2013-03-18 11:48:22 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/fnctv/

According to this, a normal weekday on Fox Noise has 1 hour of Huckabee, Hannity, The Five, Cavuto, and Bret Baier and 2 hours of O'Reilly, Fox News Sunday, and Greta, for a total of 11 hours (45%), leaving 2.2 hours of opinion distributed among the rest of the day.

Now Fox & Friends is 3 hours, meaning this survey considers Fox & Friends to be at least 25% factual reporting.

That fact alone calls this entire study into question.

cman: So the website NBCNews.com is just a coincidence?


PROTIP: A television network and a website are not the same thing.
 
2013-03-18 11:48:35 PM

Nadie_AZ: Where does Fark.tv fit in?


*shudder*
 
2013-03-18 11:50:17 PM
They call them Pew polls because they stink.
 
2013-03-18 11:53:01 PM
How much is shows about prison?
 
2013-03-18 11:54:36 PM

dookdookdook: http://www.foxnews.com/fnctv/

According to this, a normal weekday on Fox Noise has 1 hour of Huckabee, Hannity, The Five, Cavuto, and Bret Baier and 2 hours of O'Reilly, Fox News Sunday, and Greta, for a total of 11 hours (45%), leaving 2.2 hours of opinion distributed among the rest of the day.

Now Fox & Friends is 3 hours, meaning this survey considers Fox & Friends to be at least 25% factual reporting.

That fact alone calls this entire study into question.

cman: So the website NBCNews.com is just a coincidence?

PROTIP: A television network and a website are not the same thing.


Protip: nbcnews.com is the official MSNBC website. That's what they have it plastered over every show. I don't know about you, but a pundit on MSNBC who says "go to nbcnews.com for more information" gives the impression that they are calling what they make news.
 
2013-03-18 11:55:30 PM

Happy Hours: Where does RT fit into this picture?

They are the most hilarious IMO. They air promos of themselves that compare them to AlJazeera and loudly proclaim they're not like MSNBC or Fox or CNN - and then they act just like MSNBC, Fox and CNN.


RT is really weird in that the few times I've caught it, they cover things like the Occupy Protests as well as some prominent libertarians who keep claiming the end times are near or something.

I think Russia just wants to prominently feature how farked up our country is because Russians are so insecure about theirs.
 
2013-03-18 11:55:57 PM

DamnYankees: Let's be fair - 85% of MSNBC is, in fact, quite terrible.


I pretty much only watch Maddow because at least her arguments are at least grounded in reality.  If it's an election year her show becomes unwatchable for me, too.

I really grew tired of hearing all of the ways Romney's campaigns was screwing up, for example.  Yeah, it was not a well run campaign, but dear lord talk about something else!
 
2013-03-18 11:56:11 PM

cman: CruiserTwelve: MSNBC does not claim to be "fair and balanced," nor do they call themselves MSNBC News. Fox does both.

So the website NBCNews.com is just a coincidence?


I thought we were talking about television, not internet.  Also, NBC is more than just MSNBC, so that doubly makes no sense.

Now that your "at least they tell us when its opinion" bullshiat has been shot down, this is the next brilliant talking point?

No such thing occurred.  I think you owe this gentleman an apology.
 
2013-03-18 11:57:32 PM

cman: A headline that disses MSNBC?

I have extra anal cream for those in need


Cable news in this country is a joke.

I just watch BBC and CNN International for my news if I really need it.

That or NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams. Heck, even the CBS Evening News is watchable again now that Scott Pelley is at the helm.
 
2013-03-19 12:02:57 AM
cman:  nbcnews.com is the official MSNBC website.

MSNBC is the name of the television network.  It features mostly opinion.

NBCnews.com is the name of the website.  It features mostly straight news.

It's really not complicated.

a pundit on MSNBC who says "go to nbcnews.com for more information" gives the impression that they are calling what they make news.

1) You've never watched MSNBC in your life so you have no idea what they say.
2) In fact, I can never remember being directed to the website "for more information" by anyone on MSNBC or any other network, for that matter.  Competent speakers know it's best to present their arguments in the moment when they already have your attention instead of directing the listener to study it out for themselves.
3) A pundit on a cable news network is typically expressing opinions about news items, so I fail to see how it's remarkable that he would refer to a news website during his comments.
 
2013-03-19 12:03:59 AM
lol @ apologists claiming msnbc is not a news channel... you've all gone off the deep end, i don't even know what to say anymore
 
2013-03-19 12:06:43 AM

dookdookdook: In fact, I can never remember being directed to the website "for more information" by anyone on MSNBC or any other network, for that matter


They say "like us on facebook" and "follow us on twitter" a lot, but, now that I think of it, I don't recall ever hearing "go to the web for more information."
 
2013-03-19 12:07:44 AM

dookdookdook: cman:  nbcnews.com is the official MSNBC website.

MSNBC is the name of the television network.  It features mostly opinion.

NBCnews.com is the name of the website.  It features mostly straight news.

It's really not complicated.

a pundit on MSNBC who says "go to nbcnews.com for more information" gives the impression that they are calling what they make news.

1) You've never watched MSNBC in your life so you have no idea what they say.
2) In fact, I can never remember being directed to the website "for more information" by anyone on MSNBC or any other network, for that matter.  Competent speakers know it's best to present their arguments in the moment when they already have your attention instead of directing the listener to study it out for themselves.
3) A pundit on a cable news network is typically expressing opinions about news items, so I fail to see how it's remarkable that he would refer to a news website during his comments.


1. Yes I have seen MSNBC. Quite a bit of it, actually. Although I am a right winger I couldn't help but watch Olbermann and his passionately comments. Wow was he on a roll then.

2. I'll give ya that one
3. Have itching to combat our argument with
 
2013-03-19 12:10:26 AM

the_dude_abides: lol @ apologists claiming msnbc is not a news channel.


No one's saying that.

15% straight news + 85% commentary on news = still a news network.

Anyway, it's still a shiatload better than this:

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/obama-presidency/fox-news-ca ug ht-parroting-talking-points-graphics-gop-press-release


cloudfront.mediamatters.org
cloudfront.mediamatters.org
cloudfront.mediamatters.org
cloudfront.mediamatters.org
 
2013-03-19 12:13:51 AM
hey i wonder what msnbc thinks about msnbc being a news channel? can they share any insight, i wonder?

"The premier cable destination for in-depth analysis of daily headlines, insightful political commentary and informed perspectives - 24/7. MSNBC defines news for the next generation with world-class reporting and a full schedule of live news coverage, political analysis and award-winning documentary programming - 24 hours a day, seven days a week. MSNBC's home on the Internet is tv.msnbc.com."

source: http://tv.msnbc.com/about/
 
2013-03-19 12:17:25 AM

James F. Campbell: Comedy Central still has more news than either.


We need a 'Sad' button.
 
2013-03-19 12:18:07 AM

cman: A headline that disses MSNBC?

I have extra anal cream for those in need


Yeah, Drew's well known liberal bias has REALLY been on display lately!
 
2013-03-19 12:21:47 AM
I can see this thread is going to turn the derp up to potato. I'll see myself out.
 
2013-03-19 12:36:13 AM

Happy Hours: Where does RT fit into this picture?

They are the most hilarious IMO. They air promos of themselves that compare them to AlJazeera and loudly proclaim they're not like MSNBC or Fox or CNN - and then they act just like MSNBC, Fox and CNN.


What is this RT?
 
2013-03-19 12:37:30 AM
MSNBC makes no bones to what they are about. Hell its even in their commercials proudly saying who they are.

Call a Fox Anchor or Pundit on the side of the republicans and they act like the Jock you just called gay. ( And secretly is ) Feathers ruffle worse then those chickens they fark. They have called out for repeatedly reading directly off GOP talking points and they even went to court and won so they can lie.

With all that said the only things I really watch on MSNBC is Meddow her show is one of the best pundit type shows on television. And I watch O'Reilly before that just to see what the right are talking about and are pissed off about this time. Even though he has been a grade-A ashhole ( more then before ) since Obama won Re-election
 
2013-03-19 12:45:36 AM

cman: dookdookdook: cman:  nbcnews.com is the official MSNBC website.

MSNBC is the name of the television network.  It features mostly opinion.

NBCnews.com is the name of the website.  It features mostly straight news.

It's really not complicated.

a pundit on MSNBC who says "go to nbcnews.com for more information" gives the impression that they are calling what they make news.

1) You've never watched MSNBC in your life so you have no idea what they say.
2) In fact, I can never remember being directed to the website "for more information" by anyone on MSNBC or any other network, for that matter.  Competent speakers know it's best to present their arguments in the moment when they already have your attention instead of directing the listener to study it out for themselves.
3) A pundit on a cable news network is typically expressing opinions about news items, so I fail to see how it's remarkable that he would refer to a news website during his comments.

1. Yes I have seen MSNBC. Quite a bit of it, actually. Although I am a right winger I couldn't help but watch Olbermann and his passionately comments. Wow was he on a roll then.

2. I'll give ya that one
3. Have nothing to combat your argument with


WOW did autocorrect mangle that or what

Fixt
 
2013-03-19 12:55:02 AM

Nadie_AZ: Where does Fark.tv fit in?


With sweat and dead man's balls.
 
2013-03-19 01:03:59 AM

Kevin72: Happy Hours: Where does RT fit into this picture?

They are the most hilarious IMO. They air promos of themselves that compare them to AlJazeera and loudly proclaim they're not like MSNBC or Fox or CNN - and then they act just like MSNBC, Fox and CNN.

What is this RT?


probably they mean  this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_%28TV_network%29
 
2013-03-19 01:13:12 AM
FTFA:: "Pew found that Fox News spent 55 percent of the time on opinion and 45 percent of the time on reporting."

45% of the time reporting what their opinion shows said?

'Some people have been saying  that Obama (insert bad thing here)'

If only Pew released some metrics on how meta the reporting parts were.
 
2013-03-19 01:13:34 AM

Kevin72: Happy Hours: Where does RT fit into this picture?

They are the most hilarious IMO. They air promos of themselves that compare them to AlJazeera and loudly proclaim they're not like MSNBC or Fox or CNN - and then they act just like MSNBC, Fox and CNN.

What is this RT?


Russia Today. It's a state sponsored "news" agency. They air a half-hour "news" program 2-3 times a day on some PBS stations. They like to take a lot of pot shots at the US. Turnabout is fair play I guess. For decades the US has vilified the Soviet Union and after that Russia in general.

They like to interview such notable experts as Alex Jones. They also seem to be having a love affair with Julian Assange and Bradley Manning (imagine a 3-way porn movie with Putin, Assange and Manning - NTTATWWT).

I actually applaud them for covering some stories that the US media sometimes sweeps under the rug, but they beat them to death in their short 30 minute news programs. Take Kimani Gray for example (he's the 16 year old black kid who was shot by police in Brooklyn a little over a week ago). They spent the first 5 minutes or so of every broadcast last week covering protesters reacting to the shooting. They never mentioned once that the kid had a criminal record and instead repeatedly showed interviews with random people on the street who didn't even know the kid and were not witnesses who swore the kid had no gun - even though the cops say that he did have a gun. They cover Bradley Manning the same way. I watch it just thinking, isn't this what you showed yesterday? And yes it is what the showed the day before. The same video footage, the same quotes, everything is the same.

You might think these are just repeats, but they're not. A lot of the material is repeated, but the whole show is not. Eventually they'll move on and mention something actually new, whether it's something in Syria or the election of the new Pope. They just have to get their point across that the US is evil.

Hey, I don't mind coverage of Gitmo or Bradley Manning or Kimani Gray being shot by the cops, but why do they keep repeating those stories as if they're beating a dead horse and they have nothing new to report?
 
2013-03-19 01:32:13 AM

Happy Hours: Kevin72: Happy Hours: Where does RT fit into this picture?

They are the most hilarious IMO. They air promos of themselves that compare them to AlJazeera and loudly proclaim they're not like MSNBC or Fox or CNN - and then they act just like MSNBC, Fox and CNN.

What is this RT?

Russia Today. It's a state sponsored "news" agency. They air a half-hour "news" program 2-3 times a day on some PBS stations. They like to take a lot of pot shots at the US. Turnabout is fair play I guess. For decades the US has vilified the Soviet Union and after that Russia in general.

They like to interview such notable experts as Alex Jones. They also seem to be having a love affair with Julian Assange and Bradley Manning (imagine a 3-way porn movie with Putin, Assange and Manning - NTTATWWT).

I actually applaud them for covering some stories that the US media sometimes sweeps under the rug, but they beat them to death in their short 30 minute news programs. Take Kimani Gray for example (he's the 16 year old black kid who was shot by police in Brooklyn a little over a week ago). They spent the first 5 minutes or so of every broadcast last week covering protesters reacting to the shooting. They never mentioned once that the kid had a criminal record and instead repeatedly showed interviews with random people on the street who didn't even know the kid and were not witnesses who swore the kid had no gun - even though the cops say that he did have a gun. They cover Bradley Manning the same way. I watch it just thinking, isn't this what you showed yesterday? And yes it is what the showed the day before. The same video footage, the same quotes, everything is the same.

You might think these are just repeats, but they're not. A lot of the material is repeated, but the whole show is not. Eventually they'll move on and mention something actually new, whether it's something in Syria or the election of the new Pope. They just have to get their point across that the US is evil.

Hey, I don't mind ...


At first it looked like RT might be interesting. But if they keep talking Imani Gray to prove America is bad and racist, well that is as fruitful as keep repeating Benghazi to prove Obama is Jimmy Carter and so Mitt Romney is president.
 
2013-03-19 01:39:31 AM
That actually doesn't surprise me. I mean, the Fox News statistic is a LIE (I'm sorry, but BENGHAZI IS NOT F*CKING NEWS ANYMORE), but I'm not surprised MSNBC does more opinion than news coverage.

What does Lockdown and all that shiat count as, anyway?
 
2013-03-19 01:40:07 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: DamnYankees: Let's be fair - 85% of MSNBC is, in fact, quite terrible.

Ed Schultz is at least entertaining.

Although I worry that he will have a heart attack in the middle of the show.


I think Maddow's pretty great. She at least does her research.
 
2013-03-19 01:41:37 AM
I seldom tune in to MSNBC and when I do it's specifically for opinion.
 
2013-03-19 01:43:23 AM

Kevin72: At first it looked like RT might be interesting. But if they keep talking Imani Gray to prove America is bad and racist, well that is as fruitful as keep repeating Benghazi to prove Obama is Jimmy Carter and so Mitt Romney is president.


Current and former communist states have some amusing media and government officials.

I don't think evil of Russian people, but their leadership is more f*cked off than ours. That's scary.
 
2013-03-19 02:06:40 AM
For a group of people who hate Fox so much, you guys sure do spend a lot of time watching it. Is your day not complete until you have something to whine about?
 
2013-03-19 02:13:57 AM
Cable news sucks all around.
 
2013-03-19 02:26:35 AM

TerminalEchoes: For a group of people who hate Fox so much, you guys sure do spend a lot of time watching it.


Nah.  Through the magic of Mediamatters, The Daily Show, and the other poor souls whose job it is to monitor right-wing media for the best bits of bigotry, misogyny, and general hilarious ignorance, we the libby libs have to spend only a tiny amount of our day in direct exposure to Fox programming.

(Meanwhile on Newsbusters -- the right wing Mediamatters -- someone spoke the words "great leap forward" in an MSNBC ad, therefore  MSNBC endorses the slaughter of tens of millions of innocents in communist China, and Chris Matthews mentioned Sandy Hook truthers and Ted Cruz within ten minutes of each other, which is outrageous for some reason)
 
2013-03-19 02:49:25 AM
I'm shocked that media groups owned by large corporations driven by profit from advertising revenue have ulterior motives.

TO THE FAINTING COUCH!
 
2013-03-19 02:51:56 AM

Kevin72: Happy Hours: Where does RT fit into this picture?

They are the most hilarious IMO. They air promos of themselves that compare them to AlJazeera and loudly proclaim they're not like MSNBC or Fox or CNN - and then they act just like MSNBC, Fox and CNN.

What is this RT?


Rotten Tomatoes. They're a movie review aggregator. Not sure why they hate America.
 
2013-03-19 02:53:21 AM

puffy999: Kevin72: At first it looked like RT might be interesting. But if they keep talking Imani Gray to prove America is bad and racist, well that is as fruitful as keep repeating Benghazi to prove Obama is Jimmy Carter and so Mitt Romney is president.

Current and former communist states have some amusing media and government officials.

I don't think evil of Russian people, but their leadership is more f*cked off than ours. That's scary.


I think of the new Russia as the Wild West. While it's lawless without the old totalitarian dictatorship, it kind of has the freedom and independence to reinvent itself. But with nukes and car-cams instead of horses and pistols.
 
2013-03-19 03:27:51 AM

TerminalEchoes: For a group of people who hate Fox so much, you guys sure do spend a lot of time watching it. Is your day not complete until you have something to whine about?


I hardly watch Fox Izvestia at all.  It's not good for my blood pressure.
 
2013-03-19 03:45:23 AM

dookdookdook: TerminalEchoes: For a group of people who hate Fox so much, you guys sure do spend a lot of time watching it.

Nah.  Through the magic of Mediamatters, The Daily Show, and the other poor souls whose job it is to monitor right-wing media for the best bits of bigotry, misogyny, and general hilarious ignorance, we the libby libs have to spend only a tiny amount of our day in direct exposure to Fox programming.

(Meanwhile on Newsbusters -- the right wing Mediamatters -- someone spoke the words "great leap forward" in an MSNBC ad, therefore  MSNBC endorses the slaughter of tens of millions of innocents in communist China, and Chris Matthews mentioned Sandy Hook truthers and Ted Cruz within ten minutes of each other, which is outrageous for some reason)


That's kinda what I thought, too. When the left bashes Fox or the right bashes MSNBC, I figure it's because 1) each side is watching the "enemy" in order to find a new reason to hate, or 2) each side is being fed out-of-context (though not in all case) snippets from Jon Stewart or---well crap, I can't think of a right wing comedian.
 
2013-03-19 04:09:35 AM

dookdookdook: TerminalEchoes: For a group of people who hate Fox so much, you guys sure do spend a lot of time watching it.

Nah.  Through the magic of Mediamatters, The Daily Show, and the other poor souls whose job it is to monitor right-wing media for the best bits of bigotry, misogyny, and general hilarious ignorance, we the libby libs have to spend only a tiny amount of our day in direct exposure to Fox programming.

(Meanwhile on Newsbusters -- the right wing Mediamatters -- someone spoke the words "great leap forward" in an MSNBC ad, therefore  MSNBC endorses the slaughter of tens of millions of innocents in communist China, and Chris Matthews mentioned Sandy Hook truthers and Ted Cruz within ten minutes of each other, which is outrageous for some reason)


The funny part is I thought of the moon landing when thinking of "great leap forward".

Why is it that newbusters and ilk are always looking for the worst example instead of showing some American Greatness. Oh, hating takes control when dealing with anything that might be mildly construed as a talking point.

They are seriously loosing a grip.
 
2013-03-19 04:11:57 AM

TerminalEchoes: dookdookdook: TerminalEchoes: For a group of people who hate Fox so much, you guys sure do spend a lot of time watching it.

Nah.  Through the magic of Mediamatters, The Daily Show, and the other poor souls whose job it is to monitor right-wing media for the best bits of bigotry, misogyny, and general hilarious ignorance, we the libby libs have to spend only a tiny amount of our day in direct exposure to Fox programming.

(Meanwhile on Newsbusters -- the right wing Mediamatters -- someone spoke the words "great leap forward" in an MSNBC ad, therefore  MSNBC endorses the slaughter of tens of millions of innocents in communist China, and Chris Matthews mentioned Sandy Hook truthers and Ted Cruz within ten minutes of each other, which is outrageous for some reason)

That's kinda what I thought, too. When the left bashes Fox or the right bashes MSNBC, I figure it's because 1) each side is watching the "enemy" in order to find a new reason to hate, or 2) each side is being fed out-of-context (though not in all case) snippets from Jon Stewart or---well crap, I can't think of a right wing comedian.


The right wing comedians are:
Glenn Beck
Sean Hannity
Bill "Papa Bear" O'Reilly
Fox n' Friends

And those are just the headlining acts. Hope that helped clear it up.
 
2013-03-19 04:31:08 AM

thiefofdreams: TerminalEchoes: dookdookdook: TerminalEchoes: For a group of people who hate Fox so much, you guys sure do spend a lot of time watching it.

Nah.  Through the magic of Mediamatters, The Daily Show, and the other poor souls whose job it is to monitor right-wing media for the best bits of bigotry, misogyny, and general hilarious ignorance, we the libby libs have to spend only a tiny amount of our day in direct exposure to Fox programming.

(Meanwhile on Newsbusters -- the right wing Mediamatters -- someone spoke the words "great leap forward" in an MSNBC ad, therefore  MSNBC endorses the slaughter of tens of millions of innocents in communist China, and Chris Matthews mentioned Sandy Hook truthers and Ted Cruz within ten minutes of each other, which is outrageous for some reason)

That's kinda what I thought, too. When the left bashes Fox or the right bashes MSNBC, I figure it's because 1) each side is watching the "enemy" in order to find a new reason to hate, or 2) each side is being fed out-of-context (though not in all case) snippets from Jon Stewart or---well crap, I can't think of a right wing comedian.

The right wing comedians are:
Glenn Beck
Sean Hannity
Bill "Papa Bear" O'Reilly
Fox n' Friends

And those are just the headlining acts. Hope that helped clear it up.


Not Limbaugh?
 
2013-03-19 05:08:59 AM

TerminalEchoes: For a group of people who hate Fox so much, you guys sure do spend a lot of time watching it. Is your day not complete until you have something to whine about?


Not me I love Fox, its a democrats best friend. First of all they know that they get higher ratings from butthurt Republicans when the Democrats win so you never going to see a full republican Dynasty as long as they are around now that the new kid on the block angle during the bush years has worn off.
Second, Your NEVER going to see a reasonable republican on Fox News. If you do like Christie or when McCain remembers who he used to be they go after them with full force as traitors. The ones that always get screen time are the crazy, greedy, xenophobic, poor and minority hating, homophobic,gun crazy, women hating, and all of the above. All with that special little theme that runs thru the whole network that the rich are better people then you and deserve special rights.
Basically Unelectable. No one shows what horrible people the right are better then Fox News. Not even MSNBC can do it as well.
I love that now they have been slobbering all over Rand Paul and Ted Cruz
Fox News is an embarrassment to America, but they help democrats more then they and its views know or want too
 
2013-03-19 06:20:06 AM
People who watch Fox News for the news programming = people who buy Playboy for the articles.
 
2013-03-19 06:36:43 AM

bronyaur1: The headline is right on the money.  MSNBC does not pretend that its opinion shows are hard news.  Fox is trying to pass off propaganda as news.


This.   not reading any more comments because THIS.

/still will read the other comments
 
2013-03-19 06:42:37 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: CruiserTwelve: MSNBC does not claim to be "fair and balanced," nor do they call themselves MSNBC News. Fox does both.

MSNBC claims they "Lean Forward".  Fox News Channel does not.
Comedy Channel has infomercials on that are not at all comedic and people seem to think that John Stewart is reporting news.
And MTV doesn't show that many music videos anymore.


Jon Stewart does report news, he just makes fun of it afterward. That's why his viewers are more informed than Fox viewers.
 
2013-03-19 06:58:27 AM
MSNBC only shows Lockup: Boston all day long.
 
2013-03-19 07:21:46 AM

dookdookdook: 2) In fact, I can never remember being directed to the website "for more information" by anyone on MSNBC or any other network, for that matter. Competent speakers know it's best to present their arguments in the moment when they already have your attention instead of directing the listener to study it out for themselves.


Was it Dan Rather that famously directed viewers to read about stem cell research because, as an anchor, it was too complex to talk about? I might be getting the details wrong. Doesn't mean I'm disagreeing with you, it was an anchor, not an opinion guy, and he just said read, not necessary on the web.

Also, Rachel Maddow refers to her blog constantly, which is essentially a works cited page. Even though she's opinion, she backs her stuff up.
 
2013-03-19 07:26:12 AM

SnarfVader: Lsherm: Do you guys meet up to spooge on each other, or can you do it remotely?

Groupthink, it's what's for breakfast.

Breaking News: Like-minded people tend to congregate on web-sites that appeal to them. More at 11.


...then how the hell does Fark manage to stay in business?
 
2013-03-19 07:36:29 AM
I thought it was closer to 85% prison shows on MSNBC.
 
2013-03-19 07:42:23 AM
I feel like television news, no matter what station, isn't really news.

The whole format seems to be filming people discussing their guesses on what is going to happen at some future date, or giving some poorly informed guess as to why something happened in the past.  There doesn't seem to be anyone actually doing investigations or actual reporting anymore.

Broadcast news sucks too.  They spend more time plugging an upcoming story than on the story.
 
2013-03-19 07:49:34 AM
All cable news is infected with BS. Each have their own slant even when "reporting news" by, as the article noted, adding in and editorializing interviews to pepper the "news" with a particular point of view. Add into the mix the constant barrage of Frank-Luntz-Speak and every segment is polluted with stupidity.

For me, when watching any of these shows, the first thing I ask myself is whether the person on screen has any real connection (i.e. do they actually work say, in the WH or are they a former staffer) or are they just speculating on what they think should or would happen if something else happened etc. 95%+ of the time, it is just a barely informed talking head spewing off an opinion of what they would do if they were really in the club as opposed to just sitting in a studio hundreds of miles away from the real action.

And for all those so-called actual news anchors, each has their own axe to grind and are allowed to cross over into punditry on a regular basis, further blurring the stats. We can all applaud people like Soledad O'Brien for calling a surrogate out on the carpet, but the reality is that the particular surrogate should have never been allowed on the program as their intention is not providing facts and the talking head is not supposed to be engaging in arguments to bolster their ratings and ego.

So this week it is MSNBC's turn to be pooped on for slanted news. I am sure Pew can find another angle next week with Fox, then CNN and so on and so forth. "Exposing bias" in cable news is like shooting fish in a barrel. Maybe Pew did not have anything to report on this week just as the cable news networks do not have any real news to report on for 23 hours of the day.

Stupid article. Stupid study. What's next? Cable News and the Blue Sky Conspiracy - The Coming Apocalypse? We report, you decide?

please.
 
2013-03-19 07:51:23 AM

Dr.Zom: How much is shows about prison?


Those are important recruiting tools for Democrat voter registration.
 
2013-03-19 07:54:03 AM
What's the percentage of fox 'news' which is only reporting that 'some people are saying whatever glenn beck & rush said on the radio an hour earlier'?
 
2013-03-19 08:06:48 AM

Happy Hours: Where does RT fit into this picture?

They are the most hilarious IMO. They air promos of themselves that compare them to AlJazeera and loudly proclaim they're not like MSNBC or Fox or CNN - and then they act just like MSNBC, Fox and CNN.


Road and Track has been the water boy for GM for the last 25 years.  Very little real news

/I get the real news at 2am off of short wave
 
2013-03-19 08:19:14 AM

IlGreven: SnarfVader: Lsherm: Do you guys meet up to spooge on each other, or can you do it remotely?

Groupthink, it's what's for breakfast.

Breaking News: Like-minded people tend to congregate on web-sites that appeal to them. More at 11.

...then how the hell does Fark manage to stay in business?


Apparently via the ignore feature. Without which the left wing side of the internet would likely shut down because they seem to want irony meters to explode when they talk about how tolerant they are of others.
 
2013-03-19 08:20:38 AM
Did they classify propaganda separately from opinion in this study? Cuz then I can see it.
 
2013-03-19 08:22:12 AM

TerminalEchoes: For a group of people who hate Fox so much, you guys sure do spend a lot of time watching it. Is your day not complete until you have something to whine about?


Never watch it, but Fox does poison the minds of Americans every day.  Why don't you complain about that?
 
2013-03-19 08:27:57 AM
Critics of that figure would likely contend that the network's straight news reporting tilts conservative...

No, I would contend the obvious: that Fox News intentionally blurs the line between its opinion and reporting so that there is rarely any clear delineation between the two outside the hours of 10 am and 5 pm and, even when they do spend time "reporting", people like Steve Douchey are injecting their own inane opinions, skipping over relevant context in an attempt to skew viewer opinion or simply outright lying.

I have no trouble believing that MSNBC devotes a huge amount of its time to opinionated shiat, but at least they make it clear that it's opinionated shiat.

/ god how I hate cable news....
 
2013-03-19 08:29:06 AM
Keep saying "Both sides are bad..." long enough, and people will be dumb enough to think it's true.
 
2013-03-19 08:32:34 AM
I recently spent some time watching CNBC and was amazed at how much opinion bullshiat they put into a financial network.

Just last week they were running around in a frenzy over the Dow reaching one record high after the next, soaring economic indicators and the unemployment rate dropping more than anyone expected, then going into "The Kudlow Report" where the guy would talk for an hour about how the Obama administration is holding back the economy.
 
2013-03-19 08:39:30 AM

MrSteve007: I recently spent some time watching CNBC and was amazed at how much opinion bullshiat they put into a financial network.

Just last week they were running around in a frenzy over the Dow reaching one record high after the next, soaring economic indicators and the unemployment rate dropping more than anyone expected, then going into "The Kudlow Report" where the guy would talk for an hour about how the Obama administration is holding back the economy.


It's as if they weren't saying Goldman Sachs, flipping houses, and these things called derivatives were great investments right before the economy shiat the bed. I had the privilege to watch CNBC for my old job during the Dubya years. Looking back, it's like watching MTV months before the first Nirvana video aired, when the on-air talent was paid to act like Trixter, Slaughter, Ugly Kid Joe et al were the future of music.
 
m00
2013-03-19 08:53:46 AM

cman: Listening to "newscasters" talking about tariffs doesnt bring in the viewers that something like "Look at JLos dress!" would


Or, lets pick apart this seven second clip of someone speaking taken entirely out of context.
 
2013-03-19 08:54:39 AM

MrSteve007: I recently spent some time watching CNBC and was amazed at how much opinion bullshiat they put into a financial network.

Just last week they were running around in a frenzy over the Dow reaching one record high after the next, soaring economic indicators and the unemployment rate dropping more than anyone expected, then going into "The Kudlow Report" where the guy would talk for an hour about how the Obama administration is holding back the economy.


Should hardly be surprising. You're talking about a network designed to give financial advice to a bunch of people who are too stupid to realize the source of their information is supported by advertisers.
 
2013-03-19 08:56:39 AM
Fox is basically incapable of telling the truth under any circumstances, making their opinion/news ratio a divide-by-zero error.
 
2013-03-19 09:08:26 AM

Lionel Mandrake: Anyway, the headline appears to be dissing FOX.


Dude is sundowning. Give him a break.
 
2013-03-19 09:10:27 AM

Lsherm: Do you guys meet up to spooge on each other, or can you do it remotely?

Groupthink, it's what's for breakfast.


oi52.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-19 09:30:45 AM

Lionel Mandrake: subby nailed it


Wrong.

it isn't "opinion" if you can back it up with facts from solid sources.

just like it isn't a rumor if its true.

duh.
 
2013-03-19 09:35:18 AM

bronyaur1: The headline is right on the money.  MSNBC does not pretend that its opinion shows are hard news.  Fox is trying to pass off propaganda as news.



there's some meat in that.

but MSNBC loss some credibility when it lost its Master of the News: Keith Olbermann.   he was giving out too much news, so when CumCast bought out 51% of NBC Universal (owner of  MSNBC) , they sh*tcanned olbermann.   blue bloods don't like it when the news does not reflect their version of the Nation/world.

and they call that Freedom.
 
2013-03-19 09:38:41 AM

Brubold: IlGreven: SnarfVader: Lsherm: Do you guys meet up to spooge on each other, or can you do it remotely?

Groupthink, it's what's for breakfast.

Breaking News: Like-minded people tend to congregate on web-sites that appeal to them. More at 11.

...then how the hell does Fark manage to stay in business?

Apparently via the ignore feature. Without which the left wing side of the internet would likely shut down because they seem to want irony meters to explode when they talk about how tolerant they are of others.


THIS. People who use that ignore button miss out on brilliant commentary like:

Brubold: Dr.Zom: How much is shows about prison?

Those are important recruiting tools for Democrat voter registration.

 
2013-03-19 09:39:25 AM

This Face Left Blank: James F. Campbell: Comedy Central still has more news than either.

We need a 'Sad' button.


I'll just leave this here.



i188.photobucket.com

/pic goes to video
 
2013-03-19 09:41:03 AM

CmndrFish: DamnYankees: Let's be fair - 85% of MSNBC is, in fact, quite terrible.

I pretty much only watch Maddow because at least her arguments are at least grounded in reality.  If it's an election year her show becomes unwatchable for me, too.

I really grew tired of hearing all of the ways Romney's campaigns was screwing up, for example.  Yeah, it was not a well run campaign, but dear lord talk about something else!


Maddow claimed calling Obama an entertainer was racist as it invoked old days of black face and such. I don't see your grounded in reality claim.

Then again she did call out at msnbc video edit as unfair to McCain. .. but then again only after she aired it.
 
2013-03-19 09:45:47 AM

BalugaJoe: MSNBC only shows Lockup: Boston all day long.


LarryDan43: I thought it was closer to 85% prison shows on MSNBC.


Well, I see the emails have gone out...
 
2013-03-19 09:47:25 AM
The article cites show TYPES, not whether the content is fact vs opinion.  MSNBC doesn't have much, if any, pure news programming that doesn't obviously contain commentary.  That's where the 85% "opinion" figure comes from.  By contrast, CNN or Fox could be dominated by "actual reporting" and still be insterting opinion, and the study would not count that as opinion.
 
2013-03-19 09:48:19 AM

TerminalEchoes: For a group of people who hate Fox so much, you guys sure do spend a lot of time watching it. Is your day not complete until you have something to whine about?


And, let me guess, if we whined about Fox WITHOUT watching it, we'd be "low information" and therefore not worth listening to, right?
 
2013-03-19 09:48:45 AM

TerminalEchoes: For a group of people who hate Fox so much, you guys sure do spend a lot of time watching it. Is your day not complete until you have something to whine about?


Whining about other people "whining"

Classic
 
2013-03-19 09:49:28 AM
Interesting that HuffPo gives the study "Pew found that Fox News spent 55 percent of the time on opinion and 45 percent of the time on reporting. " then directly follows it with opinion with, "Critics of that figure would likely contend that the network's straight news reporting tilts conservative, ..."

Personally I feel that if you get your news from one source you are limited in your knowledge of the issues and if you think that anything on Comedy Central is news or journalism you are just... well... limited.
 
2013-03-19 09:49:53 AM
if you want the Big Business/Wealthy version of the news, tune in to FOX News or Corporate News Network (CNN), or Reich Wing Radio owned by Clear Channel Communications,  in that order.


if you want the actual news, tune into MSNBC, or Google News, or PBS.  or the Internet in general.  no one owns the internet (yet) so no one can control the news on it.

Thank you,

God.
 
2013-03-19 09:50:40 AM

Brubold: IlGreven: SnarfVader: Lsherm: Do you guys meet up to spooge on each other, or can you do it remotely?

Groupthink, it's what's for breakfast.

Breaking News: Like-minded people tend to congregate on web-sites that appeal to them. More at 11.

...then how the hell does Fark manage to stay in business?

Apparently via the ignore feature. Without which the left wing side of the internet would likely shut down because they seem to want irony meters to explode when they talk about how tolerant they are of others.



They seem to be tolerating your sorry ass.
 
2013-03-19 09:51:38 AM

CmndrFish: DamnYankees: Let's be fair - 85% of MSNBC is, in fact, quite terrible.

I pretty much only watch Maddow because at least her arguments are at least grounded in reality.  If it's an election year her show becomes unwatchable for me, too.

I really grew tired of hearing all of the ways Romney's campaigns was screwing up, for example.  Yeah, it was not a well run campaign, but dear lord talk about something else!



the thinking is that if you can't run a good campaign, what makes you think you can run a Nation?
 
2013-03-19 09:52:09 AM

Karac: What's the percentage of fox 'news' which is only reporting that 'some people are saying whatever glenn beck & rush said on the radio an hour earlier'?


55% opinion that Obama is destroying America, 45% news backing up their claim.
 
2013-03-19 09:52:16 AM

James F. Campbell: Comedy Central still has more news than either.



lol     some truth in that.
 
2013-03-19 09:54:15 AM

CruiserTwelve: MSNBC does not claim to be "fair and balanced," nor do they call themselves MSNBC News. Fox does both.



good point.  Medal for you.  (:
 
2013-03-19 09:54:23 AM
And in other news, Americans still don't pay any attention to Democracy Now! because it actually reports news.

Give me infotainment or give me death!
 
2013-03-19 09:56:36 AM

Brubold: IlGreven: SnarfVader: Lsherm: Do you guys meet up to spooge on each other, or can you do it remotely?

Groupthink, it's what's for breakfast.

Breaking News: Like-minded people tend to congregate on web-sites that appeal to them. More at 11.

...then how the hell does Fark manage to stay in business?

Apparently via the ignore feature. Without which the left wing side of the internet would likely shut down because they seem to want irony meters to explode when they talk about how tolerant they are of others.


I got blocked in a conservative group after ONE POST on a similar site. My post was a link to factual numbers refuting a claim.

Conservatives CAN'T be open minded.
 
2013-03-19 09:57:17 AM

Lackofname: tenpoundsofcheese: DamnYankees: Let's be fair - 85% of MSNBC is, in fact, quite terrible.

Ed Schultz is at least entertaining.

Although I worry that he will have a heart attack in the middle of the show.

I think Maddow's pretty great. She at least does her research.



Rhodes Scholar from Oxford University PhD will do that to you.  unlike sean (never went to college) hannity.

ole' righ wing radio rush Loudmouth went to college for about 1 year and flunked out.
 
2013-03-19 09:58:51 AM

coco ebert: Cable news sucks all around.



True.  because it is owned by big business.  and big business has propaganda to sell, not news.  propaganda to further their agendas.

real news is on the Internet.
 
2013-03-19 09:59:17 AM

DeArmondVI: And in other news, Americans still don't pay any attention to Democracy Now! because it actually reports news.

Give me infotainment or give me death!


Meh. Watched the host of the "news" report gush so hard over Jesse Jackson, she nearly fainted. It was pathetic and wholly transparent. The entire story was horribly biased.
 
2013-03-19 09:59:47 AM

mediablitz: Karac: What's the percentage of fox 'news' which is only reporting that 'some people are saying whatever glenn beck & rush said on the radio an hour earlier'?

55% opinion that Obama is destroying America, 45% news backing up their claim.


On the other hand, on a typical MSNBC evening you get to watch successive commentators show the same clips, say the same things, and pitch the same softball questions to their "experts", half of whom also have shows on MNSBC.
 
2013-03-19 10:01:30 AM

Whodat: Interesting that HuffPo gives the study "Pew found that Fox News spent 55 percent of the time on opinion and 45 percent of the time on reporting. " then directly follows it with opinion with, "Critics of that figure would likely contend that the network's straight news reporting tilts conservative, ..."

Personally I feel that if you get your news from one source you are limited in your knowledge of the issues and if you think that anything on Comedy Central is news or journalism you are just... well... limited.


FFS.

You know, if you *only* get your news from the Daily Show (and I don't actually know *anyone* who does) then a good number of the jokes are just not gonna be funny.  But to say that The Daily Show never has "news" is just disingenuous.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/videos/tag/On%20Location%20in%20Iraq
 
2013-03-19 10:07:08 AM
News (in no particular order): MSNBC, PBS, Internet (must have enough brains to filter out the bullsh*t on the last one)


Bullsh*t big business propaganda: FOX News, Corporate News Network (CNN), CNBC (to a small degree), Reich Wing Radio (all owned by Clear channel communications, a Republican stronghold full of bullsh*t artists) ABC, NBC, CBS.  some local news too, depends on city/town.


most Americans get their news from the second list.  which, of course, explains why this Nation is so screwed up. Obama, et al, is trying to get us back to where we were, but he's fighting an uphill battle of corporate bullsh*t on bullsh*t mountain.


--God
 
2013-03-19 10:09:33 AM

MrSteve007: I recently spent some time watching CNBC and was amazed at how much opinion bullshiat they put into a financial network.


Which is why I've changed to Bloomberg. It may not be better, but for now it's different.
 
2013-03-19 10:11:17 AM
Keith Olbermann is the God of News.

and that is why CumCast sh*tcanned him.
 
2013-03-19 10:17:35 AM
thank you MSNBC for keeping us infromed
 
2013-03-19 10:19:10 AM

dookdookdook: (Meanwhile on Newsbusters -- the right wing Mediamatters -- someone spoke the words "great leap forward" in an MSNBC ad, therefore  MSNBC endorses the slaughter of tens of millions of innocents in communist China, and Chris Matthews mentioned Sandy Hook truthers and Ted Cruz within ten minutes of each other, which is outrageous for some reason)


Wow that's pathetic. The funny part is my right wing friends know the name Media Matters and they hate it with a passion, even though they can't pull out any specific examples of why.

If both sides were equally bad Newsbusters would be able to score articles excoriating MSNBC for outrageously dishonest broadcasting at about the same rate as Media Matters, but NOPE. "Great leap forward....JUST LIKE COMMUNIST CHINA" is the best they can do.
 
2013-03-19 10:20:49 AM

Linux_Yes: if you want the Big Business/Wealthy version of the news, tune in to FOX News or Corporate News Network (CNN), or Reich Wing Radio owned by Clear Channel Communications,  in that order.


if you want the actual news, tune into MSNBC, or Google News, or PBS.  or the Internet in general.  no one owns the internet (yet) so no one can control the news on it.

Thank you,

God.


Google News is just as good as the sources they link to.

MSNBC is mostly commentary, which they are upfront about.

PBS is decent but not news 24/7 either.

Personally, NPR, BBC (their Android app is concise and awesome as a news source), Economist (likewise on Android app if you've got a subscription) - New Yorker - sometimes Atlantic (not Wire) for longer articles, BBC or Al Jazeera when I absolutely must watch something live.
 
2013-03-19 10:43:33 AM
Cable news sucks? Who knew?
 
2013-03-19 10:46:09 AM

cman: A headline that disses MSNBC?

I have extra anal cream for those in need


Yep, you need it.  No lib here is that offended by the headline, Mr. My Glasses Have too Much Limbaugh Jizz On Them to Read the Thread Properly.
 
2013-03-19 10:47:15 AM

bronyaur1: The headline is right on the money.  MSNBC does not pretend that its opinion shows are hard news.  Fox is trying to pass off propaganda as news.


I have no problem with Fox News presenting a conservative/right view of the news. Just get rid of the "FAIR AND BALANCED" and "WE REPORT, YOU DECIDE" taglines. You're not fair, you are not balanced and you're not letting us decide.
 
2013-03-19 10:48:58 AM

markfara: mediablitz: Karac: What's the percentage of fox 'news' which is only reporting that 'some people are saying whatever glenn beck & rush said on the radio an hour earlier'?

55% opinion that Obama is destroying America, 45% news backing up their claim.

On the other hand, on a typical MSNBC evening you get to watch successive commentators show the same clips, say the same things, and pitch the same softball questions to their "experts", half of whom also have shows on MNSBC.


Yep. MSNBC... "fair and balanced"
 
2013-03-19 10:53:20 AM
I'd also argue MSNBC's opinion reporting is far more journalistically sound. Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes clearly do commentary but every one of their segments is thoroughly researched and sourced.

At Fox you get guys like O' Reilly who just talk out of their asses. Last month when the White House released that secret memo on the targeted killings of American terrorism suspects O Reilly did a segment where he said "This drone story, none of the other networks are reporting this. You heard anything on MSNBC? No nothing. Only Fox."

The drone memo news had actually been by broken on Rachel Maddow's show, but O' Reilly didn't care. Why take ten minutes to do a Google search to get your facts straight when you can just tell self serving lies and not suffer any pushback from your viewing audience. Hating libs is much more important than accuracy.
 
2013-03-19 10:55:00 AM

Linux_Yes: bronyaur1: The headline is right on the money.  MSNBC does not pretend that its opinion shows are hard news.  Fox is trying to pass off propaganda as news.


there's some meat in that.

but MSNBC loss some credibility when it lost its Master of the News: Keith Olbermann.   he was giving out too much news, so when CumCast bought out 51% of NBC Universal (owner of  MSNBC) , they sh*tcanned olbermann.   blue bloods don't like it when the news does not reflect their version of the Nation/world.

and they call that Freedom.


i23.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-19 11:00:35 AM
cman:
[i23.photobucket.com image 640x480]

He's wearing a pointy hat. That has been proven to be ineffective.  Plus, he forgot to cover his forehead, so he's one of them now.

/Fortunately, my round hat offers much better protect......+++++++CARRIER LOST+++++++
 
2013-03-19 11:08:25 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: CruiserTwelve: MSNBC does not claim to be "fair and balanced," nor do they call themselves MSNBC News. Fox does both.

MSNBC claims they "Lean Forward".  Fox News Channel does not.
Comedy Channel has infomercials on that are not at all comedic and people seem to think that John Stewart is reporting news.


And I find it strange that after more than a decade, morons can't spell Jon Stewart properly, then they expect us to take them seriously.
 
2013-03-19 11:17:10 AM

Happy Hours: Where does RT fit into this picture?

They are the most hilarious IMO. They air promos of themselves that compare them to AlJazeera and loudly proclaim they're not like MSNBC or Fox or CNN - and then they act just like MSNBC, Fox and CNN.


Yeah, but...Abby Martin

s3.vidimg.popscreen.com

www.algemeiner.com
 
2013-03-19 12:38:48 PM

cman: A headline that disses MSNBC?

I have extra anal cream for those in need


I don't believe it was meant to. Subby thought he/she/it was dissing Fox News, but his attempt at raising his ranking amongst the FarkLibtards backfired on him/her/it.
 
2013-03-19 01:12:06 PM

mediablitz: Brubold: IlGreven: SnarfVader: Lsherm: Do you guys meet up to spooge on each other, or can you do it remotely?

Groupthink, it's what's for breakfast.

Breaking News: Like-minded people tend to congregate on web-sites that appeal to them. More at 11.

...then how the hell does Fark manage to stay in business?

Apparently via the ignore feature. Without which the left wing side of the internet would likely shut down because they seem to want irony meters to explode when they talk about how tolerant they are of others.

I got blocked in a conservative group after ONE POST on a similar site. My post was a link to factual numbers refuting a claim.

Conservatives CAN'T be open minded.


I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

My personal feelings on the matter are, if you can't handle what some random person trying to get under your skin says on an internet forum, how do you manage to function in your daily life? Are your beliefs so fragile they'll shatter against harsh criticism?
 
2013-03-19 01:26:25 PM
i wondered why this chick was air tight in her 'communications'

i796.photobucket.com


"Karen most recently served for four years as the Spokeswoman and Director of Communications at the Democratic National Committee where she helped guide the DNC's communications and media strategy for Howard Dean's "50 State Strategy", re-branding the Democratic Party, the successful 2006 Congressional elections and DNC strategy for the 2008 presidential campaign. Karen served in the Clinton White House as Deputy Press Secretary to then First Lady Hillary Clinton and as Deputy Director of Presidential Scheduling for President Clinton. Karen has also worked in a number of high-profile campaigns, including Hillary Clinton's successful bid for the U.S. Senate as Press Secretary in 2000, and Director of Communications for Elizabeth Edwards during the Kerry/Edwards Presidential Campaign in 2004." from huffpo
 
2013-03-19 01:56:11 PM
 
2013-03-19 02:07:38 PM

mediablitz: DeArmondVI: And in other news, Americans still don't pay any attention to Democracy Now! because it actually reports news.

Give me infotainment or give me death!

Meh. Watched the host of the "news" report gush so hard over Jesse Jackson, she nearly fainted. It was pathetic and wholly transparent. The entire story was horribly biased.


I'm not familiar with the segment you're referring to.

I would, however, recommend heading over to Democracy Now today and checking out how they reported on the 10th year anniversary of the invasion/occupation of Iraq. I'm yet to see that kind of coverage from ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Fox (of course), MSNBC, or PBS/NPR.
 
2013-03-19 02:17:08 PM

Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

My personal feelings on the matter are, if you can't handle what some random person trying to get under your skin says on an internet forum, how do you manage to function in your daily life? Are your beliefs so fragile they'll shatter against harsh criticism?


I disagree with you almost completely on everything, but I agree with you on the ignore thing. I don't put people on ignore. I come here to get opinions on both sides, and after a bit of pondering and/or research, I usually end up realizing my own opinion falls in line with most liberals. There are some things I don't agree with liberals on - I'm personally against abortion (although I think sex ed should be expanded by orders of magnitude - we're never going to get teenagers to stop farking).

Also, how old is Chris Hayes? Dude looks like he's barely out of college.
 
2013-03-19 03:13:32 PM

Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

My personal feelings on the matter are, if you can't handle what some random person trying to get under your skin says on an internet forum, how do you manage to function in your daily life? Are your beliefs so fragile they'll shatter against harsh criticism?


I've got over a 100 people on Ignore and it makes the site better. When someone repeatedly proves that they have nothing meaningful to add to the conversation, I Ignore them. I come here for interesting conversation and there's no need to waste my time reading herp derp from someone's alt.

I tend to identify with liberal positions but some of the people on my Ignore list are liberals I just find insufferable. I disagree with conservatives 99% of the time but I have hundreds of them Favorited. For example, I tend to disagree with almost everything you say and yet I have you Favorited.
 
2013-03-19 03:21:06 PM

zarberg: Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

My personal feelings on the matter are, if you can't handle what some random person trying to get under your skin says on an internet forum, how do you manage to function in your daily life? Are your beliefs so fragile they'll shatter against harsh criticism?

I disagree with you almost completely on everything, but I agree with you on the ignore thing. I don't put people on ignore. I come here to get opinions on both sides, and after a bit of pondering and/or research, I usually end up realizing my own opinion falls in line with most liberals. There are some things I don't agree with liberals on - I'm personally against abortion (although I think sex ed should be expanded by orders of magnitude - we're never going to get teenagers to stop farking).

Also, how old is Chris Hayes? Dude looks like he's barely out of college.


I dunno about you disagreeing with me "almost completely on everything" since I have some fairly liberal positions on things like gay marriage and gays serving in the military. I was also in favor of health care reform. Just not in favor of the debacle that is Obamacare (read that Time magazine article that came out last month to see part of why that is).

The odd thing is that I have those positions and speak about them openly on conservative sites yet I'm never banned or ignored over them. *shrug*
 
2013-03-19 04:35:50 PM

Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.


You have got to be kidding me.

Conspiracy theory minded much?

/I have one person on ignore
//well, maybe two or three, but only one who still posts
 
2013-03-19 06:00:00 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

You have got to be kidding me.

Conspiracy theory minded much?


Yeah I have an Ignore list but there's no instruction manual or anything. It's just "Do you only say dumb things? IGNORED"
 
2013-03-19 07:48:29 PM

CorporatePerson: Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

My personal feelings on the matter are, if you can't handle what some random person trying to get under your skin says on an internet forum, how do you manage to function in your daily life? Are your beliefs so fragile they'll shatter against harsh criticism?

I've got over a 100 people on Ignore and it makes the site better. When someone repeatedly proves that they have nothing meaningful to add to the conversation, I Ignore them. I come here for interesting conversation and there's no need to waste my time reading herp derp from someone's alt.

I tend to identify with liberal positions but some of the people on my Ignore list are liberals I just find insufferable. I disagree with conservatives 99% of the time but I have hundreds of them Favorited. For example, I tend to disagree with almost everything you say and yet I have you Favorited.


Hehe, well then I hope I'm doing my best to entertain you.
 
2013-03-19 08:06:12 PM
I'll stick with MSNBC.  Fine, it's a bastion of liberalism, but I'm a democrat, so that's OK with me.

At least I don't want to kill people for their abject stupidity after watching it.  I can handle Shep and Chris Wallace on Fox and that's about it.

As far as MSNBC goes, I would like to see Lawrence O'Donnell go bye bye, he's far too emotional for me and lacks any sense of humility whatsoever.  (Translation:  a prick).

I'd rather of seen Ezra Klein than Chris Hayes replace Ed.  Wonky and full of details is better than bouncing up and down like a jack russell terrier.
 
2013-03-20 09:07:20 PM

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2013-03-19 06:00:00 PM


StreetlightInTheGhetto: Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

You have got to be kidding me.

Conspiracy theory minded much?

Yeah I have an Ignore list but there's no instruction manual or anything. It's just "Do you only say dumb things? IGNORED"


how do you ignore yourself? 0/0=?  rimshot
 
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