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(Huffington Post)   Study finds MSNBC programming consists of 85% "opinion" and 15% "news", while Fox News programming consists of 55% opinion and 45% Republican Party press releases disguised as news   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 137
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2013-03-19 09:52:16 AM

James F. Campbell: Comedy Central still has more news than either.



lol     some truth in that.
 
2013-03-19 09:54:15 AM

CruiserTwelve: MSNBC does not claim to be "fair and balanced," nor do they call themselves MSNBC News. Fox does both.



good point.  Medal for you.  (:
 
2013-03-19 09:54:23 AM
And in other news, Americans still don't pay any attention to Democracy Now! because it actually reports news.

Give me infotainment or give me death!
 
2013-03-19 09:56:36 AM

Brubold: IlGreven: SnarfVader: Lsherm: Do you guys meet up to spooge on each other, or can you do it remotely?

Groupthink, it's what's for breakfast.

Breaking News: Like-minded people tend to congregate on web-sites that appeal to them. More at 11.

...then how the hell does Fark manage to stay in business?

Apparently via the ignore feature. Without which the left wing side of the internet would likely shut down because they seem to want irony meters to explode when they talk about how tolerant they are of others.


I got blocked in a conservative group after ONE POST on a similar site. My post was a link to factual numbers refuting a claim.

Conservatives CAN'T be open minded.
 
2013-03-19 09:57:17 AM

Lackofname: tenpoundsofcheese: DamnYankees: Let's be fair - 85% of MSNBC is, in fact, quite terrible.

Ed Schultz is at least entertaining.

Although I worry that he will have a heart attack in the middle of the show.

I think Maddow's pretty great. She at least does her research.



Rhodes Scholar from Oxford University PhD will do that to you.  unlike sean (never went to college) hannity.

ole' righ wing radio rush Loudmouth went to college for about 1 year and flunked out.
 
2013-03-19 09:58:51 AM

coco ebert: Cable news sucks all around.



True.  because it is owned by big business.  and big business has propaganda to sell, not news.  propaganda to further their agendas.

real news is on the Internet.
 
2013-03-19 09:59:17 AM

DeArmondVI: And in other news, Americans still don't pay any attention to Democracy Now! because it actually reports news.

Give me infotainment or give me death!


Meh. Watched the host of the "news" report gush so hard over Jesse Jackson, she nearly fainted. It was pathetic and wholly transparent. The entire story was horribly biased.
 
2013-03-19 09:59:47 AM

mediablitz: Karac: What's the percentage of fox 'news' which is only reporting that 'some people are saying whatever glenn beck & rush said on the radio an hour earlier'?

55% opinion that Obama is destroying America, 45% news backing up their claim.


On the other hand, on a typical MSNBC evening you get to watch successive commentators show the same clips, say the same things, and pitch the same softball questions to their "experts", half of whom also have shows on MNSBC.
 
2013-03-19 10:01:30 AM

Whodat: Interesting that HuffPo gives the study "Pew found that Fox News spent 55 percent of the time on opinion and 45 percent of the time on reporting. " then directly follows it with opinion with, "Critics of that figure would likely contend that the network's straight news reporting tilts conservative, ..."

Personally I feel that if you get your news from one source you are limited in your knowledge of the issues and if you think that anything on Comedy Central is news or journalism you are just... well... limited.


FFS.

You know, if you *only* get your news from the Daily Show (and I don't actually know *anyone* who does) then a good number of the jokes are just not gonna be funny.  But to say that The Daily Show never has "news" is just disingenuous.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/videos/tag/On%20Location%20in%20Iraq
 
2013-03-19 10:07:08 AM
News (in no particular order): MSNBC, PBS, Internet (must have enough brains to filter out the bullsh*t on the last one)


Bullsh*t big business propaganda: FOX News, Corporate News Network (CNN), CNBC (to a small degree), Reich Wing Radio (all owned by Clear channel communications, a Republican stronghold full of bullsh*t artists) ABC, NBC, CBS.  some local news too, depends on city/town.


most Americans get their news from the second list.  which, of course, explains why this Nation is so screwed up. Obama, et al, is trying to get us back to where we were, but he's fighting an uphill battle of corporate bullsh*t on bullsh*t mountain.


--God
 
2013-03-19 10:09:33 AM

MrSteve007: I recently spent some time watching CNBC and was amazed at how much opinion bullshiat they put into a financial network.


Which is why I've changed to Bloomberg. It may not be better, but for now it's different.
 
2013-03-19 10:11:17 AM
Keith Olbermann is the God of News.

and that is why CumCast sh*tcanned him.
 
2013-03-19 10:17:35 AM
thank you MSNBC for keeping us infromed
 
2013-03-19 10:19:10 AM

dookdookdook: (Meanwhile on Newsbusters -- the right wing Mediamatters -- someone spoke the words "great leap forward" in an MSNBC ad, therefore  MSNBC endorses the slaughter of tens of millions of innocents in communist China, and Chris Matthews mentioned Sandy Hook truthers and Ted Cruz within ten minutes of each other, which is outrageous for some reason)


Wow that's pathetic. The funny part is my right wing friends know the name Media Matters and they hate it with a passion, even though they can't pull out any specific examples of why.

If both sides were equally bad Newsbusters would be able to score articles excoriating MSNBC for outrageously dishonest broadcasting at about the same rate as Media Matters, but NOPE. "Great leap forward....JUST LIKE COMMUNIST CHINA" is the best they can do.
 
2013-03-19 10:20:49 AM

Linux_Yes: if you want the Big Business/Wealthy version of the news, tune in to FOX News or Corporate News Network (CNN), or Reich Wing Radio owned by Clear Channel Communications,  in that order.


if you want the actual news, tune into MSNBC, or Google News, or PBS.  or the Internet in general.  no one owns the internet (yet) so no one can control the news on it.

Thank you,

God.


Google News is just as good as the sources they link to.

MSNBC is mostly commentary, which they are upfront about.

PBS is decent but not news 24/7 either.

Personally, NPR, BBC (their Android app is concise and awesome as a news source), Economist (likewise on Android app if you've got a subscription) - New Yorker - sometimes Atlantic (not Wire) for longer articles, BBC or Al Jazeera when I absolutely must watch something live.
 
2013-03-19 10:43:33 AM
Cable news sucks? Who knew?
 
2013-03-19 10:46:09 AM

cman: A headline that disses MSNBC?

I have extra anal cream for those in need


Yep, you need it.  No lib here is that offended by the headline, Mr. My Glasses Have too Much Limbaugh Jizz On Them to Read the Thread Properly.
 
2013-03-19 10:47:15 AM

bronyaur1: The headline is right on the money.  MSNBC does not pretend that its opinion shows are hard news.  Fox is trying to pass off propaganda as news.


I have no problem with Fox News presenting a conservative/right view of the news. Just get rid of the "FAIR AND BALANCED" and "WE REPORT, YOU DECIDE" taglines. You're not fair, you are not balanced and you're not letting us decide.
 
2013-03-19 10:48:58 AM

markfara: mediablitz: Karac: What's the percentage of fox 'news' which is only reporting that 'some people are saying whatever glenn beck & rush said on the radio an hour earlier'?

55% opinion that Obama is destroying America, 45% news backing up their claim.

On the other hand, on a typical MSNBC evening you get to watch successive commentators show the same clips, say the same things, and pitch the same softball questions to their "experts", half of whom also have shows on MNSBC.


Yep. MSNBC... "fair and balanced"
 
2013-03-19 10:53:20 AM
I'd also argue MSNBC's opinion reporting is far more journalistically sound. Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes clearly do commentary but every one of their segments is thoroughly researched and sourced.

At Fox you get guys like O' Reilly who just talk out of their asses. Last month when the White House released that secret memo on the targeted killings of American terrorism suspects O Reilly did a segment where he said "This drone story, none of the other networks are reporting this. You heard anything on MSNBC? No nothing. Only Fox."

The drone memo news had actually been by broken on Rachel Maddow's show, but O' Reilly didn't care. Why take ten minutes to do a Google search to get your facts straight when you can just tell self serving lies and not suffer any pushback from your viewing audience. Hating libs is much more important than accuracy.
 
2013-03-19 10:55:00 AM

Linux_Yes: bronyaur1: The headline is right on the money.  MSNBC does not pretend that its opinion shows are hard news.  Fox is trying to pass off propaganda as news.


there's some meat in that.

but MSNBC loss some credibility when it lost its Master of the News: Keith Olbermann.   he was giving out too much news, so when CumCast bought out 51% of NBC Universal (owner of  MSNBC) , they sh*tcanned olbermann.   blue bloods don't like it when the news does not reflect their version of the Nation/world.

and they call that Freedom.


i23.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-19 11:00:35 AM
cman:
[i23.photobucket.com image 640x480]

He's wearing a pointy hat. That has been proven to be ineffective.  Plus, he forgot to cover his forehead, so he's one of them now.

/Fortunately, my round hat offers much better protect......+++++++CARRIER LOST+++++++
 
2013-03-19 11:08:25 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: CruiserTwelve: MSNBC does not claim to be "fair and balanced," nor do they call themselves MSNBC News. Fox does both.

MSNBC claims they "Lean Forward".  Fox News Channel does not.
Comedy Channel has infomercials on that are not at all comedic and people seem to think that John Stewart is reporting news.


And I find it strange that after more than a decade, morons can't spell Jon Stewart properly, then they expect us to take them seriously.
 
2013-03-19 11:17:10 AM

Happy Hours: Where does RT fit into this picture?

They are the most hilarious IMO. They air promos of themselves that compare them to AlJazeera and loudly proclaim they're not like MSNBC or Fox or CNN - and then they act just like MSNBC, Fox and CNN.


Yeah, but...Abby Martin

s3.vidimg.popscreen.com

www.algemeiner.com
 
2013-03-19 12:38:48 PM

cman: A headline that disses MSNBC?

I have extra anal cream for those in need


I don't believe it was meant to. Subby thought he/she/it was dissing Fox News, but his attempt at raising his ranking amongst the FarkLibtards backfired on him/her/it.
 
2013-03-19 01:12:06 PM

mediablitz: Brubold: IlGreven: SnarfVader: Lsherm: Do you guys meet up to spooge on each other, or can you do it remotely?

Groupthink, it's what's for breakfast.

Breaking News: Like-minded people tend to congregate on web-sites that appeal to them. More at 11.

...then how the hell does Fark manage to stay in business?

Apparently via the ignore feature. Without which the left wing side of the internet would likely shut down because they seem to want irony meters to explode when they talk about how tolerant they are of others.

I got blocked in a conservative group after ONE POST on a similar site. My post was a link to factual numbers refuting a claim.

Conservatives CAN'T be open minded.


I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

My personal feelings on the matter are, if you can't handle what some random person trying to get under your skin says on an internet forum, how do you manage to function in your daily life? Are your beliefs so fragile they'll shatter against harsh criticism?
 
2013-03-19 01:26:25 PM
i wondered why this chick was air tight in her 'communications'

i796.photobucket.com


"Karen most recently served for four years as the Spokeswoman and Director of Communications at the Democratic National Committee where she helped guide the DNC's communications and media strategy for Howard Dean's "50 State Strategy", re-branding the Democratic Party, the successful 2006 Congressional elections and DNC strategy for the 2008 presidential campaign. Karen served in the Clinton White House as Deputy Press Secretary to then First Lady Hillary Clinton and as Deputy Director of Presidential Scheduling for President Clinton. Karen has also worked in a number of high-profile campaigns, including Hillary Clinton's successful bid for the U.S. Senate as Press Secretary in 2000, and Director of Communications for Elizabeth Edwards during the Kerry/Edwards Presidential Campaign in 2004." from huffpo
 
2013-03-19 01:56:11 PM
 
2013-03-19 02:07:38 PM

mediablitz: DeArmondVI: And in other news, Americans still don't pay any attention to Democracy Now! because it actually reports news.

Give me infotainment or give me death!

Meh. Watched the host of the "news" report gush so hard over Jesse Jackson, she nearly fainted. It was pathetic and wholly transparent. The entire story was horribly biased.


I'm not familiar with the segment you're referring to.

I would, however, recommend heading over to Democracy Now today and checking out how they reported on the 10th year anniversary of the invasion/occupation of Iraq. I'm yet to see that kind of coverage from ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Fox (of course), MSNBC, or PBS/NPR.
 
2013-03-19 02:17:08 PM

Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

My personal feelings on the matter are, if you can't handle what some random person trying to get under your skin says on an internet forum, how do you manage to function in your daily life? Are your beliefs so fragile they'll shatter against harsh criticism?


I disagree with you almost completely on everything, but I agree with you on the ignore thing. I don't put people on ignore. I come here to get opinions on both sides, and after a bit of pondering and/or research, I usually end up realizing my own opinion falls in line with most liberals. There are some things I don't agree with liberals on - I'm personally against abortion (although I think sex ed should be expanded by orders of magnitude - we're never going to get teenagers to stop farking).

Also, how old is Chris Hayes? Dude looks like he's barely out of college.
 
2013-03-19 03:13:32 PM

Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

My personal feelings on the matter are, if you can't handle what some random person trying to get under your skin says on an internet forum, how do you manage to function in your daily life? Are your beliefs so fragile they'll shatter against harsh criticism?


I've got over a 100 people on Ignore and it makes the site better. When someone repeatedly proves that they have nothing meaningful to add to the conversation, I Ignore them. I come here for interesting conversation and there's no need to waste my time reading herp derp from someone's alt.

I tend to identify with liberal positions but some of the people on my Ignore list are liberals I just find insufferable. I disagree with conservatives 99% of the time but I have hundreds of them Favorited. For example, I tend to disagree with almost everything you say and yet I have you Favorited.
 
2013-03-19 03:21:06 PM

zarberg: Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

My personal feelings on the matter are, if you can't handle what some random person trying to get under your skin says on an internet forum, how do you manage to function in your daily life? Are your beliefs so fragile they'll shatter against harsh criticism?

I disagree with you almost completely on everything, but I agree with you on the ignore thing. I don't put people on ignore. I come here to get opinions on both sides, and after a bit of pondering and/or research, I usually end up realizing my own opinion falls in line with most liberals. There are some things I don't agree with liberals on - I'm personally against abortion (although I think sex ed should be expanded by orders of magnitude - we're never going to get teenagers to stop farking).

Also, how old is Chris Hayes? Dude looks like he's barely out of college.


I dunno about you disagreeing with me "almost completely on everything" since I have some fairly liberal positions on things like gay marriage and gays serving in the military. I was also in favor of health care reform. Just not in favor of the debacle that is Obamacare (read that Time magazine article that came out last month to see part of why that is).

The odd thing is that I have those positions and speak about them openly on conservative sites yet I'm never banned or ignored over them. *shrug*
 
2013-03-19 04:35:50 PM

Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.


You have got to be kidding me.

Conspiracy theory minded much?

/I have one person on ignore
//well, maybe two or three, but only one who still posts
 
2013-03-19 06:00:00 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

You have got to be kidding me.

Conspiracy theory minded much?


Yeah I have an Ignore list but there's no instruction manual or anything. It's just "Do you only say dumb things? IGNORED"
 
2013-03-19 07:48:29 PM

CorporatePerson: Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

My personal feelings on the matter are, if you can't handle what some random person trying to get under your skin says on an internet forum, how do you manage to function in your daily life? Are your beliefs so fragile they'll shatter against harsh criticism?

I've got over a 100 people on Ignore and it makes the site better. When someone repeatedly proves that they have nothing meaningful to add to the conversation, I Ignore them. I come here for interesting conversation and there's no need to waste my time reading herp derp from someone's alt.

I tend to identify with liberal positions but some of the people on my Ignore list are liberals I just find insufferable. I disagree with conservatives 99% of the time but I have hundreds of them Favorited. For example, I tend to disagree with almost everything you say and yet I have you Favorited.


Hehe, well then I hope I'm doing my best to entertain you.
 
2013-03-19 08:06:12 PM
I'll stick with MSNBC.  Fine, it's a bastion of liberalism, but I'm a democrat, so that's OK with me.

At least I don't want to kill people for their abject stupidity after watching it.  I can handle Shep and Chris Wallace on Fox and that's about it.

As far as MSNBC goes, I would like to see Lawrence O'Donnell go bye bye, he's far too emotional for me and lacks any sense of humility whatsoever.  (Translation:  a prick).

I'd rather of seen Ezra Klein than Chris Hayes replace Ed.  Wonky and full of details is better than bouncing up and down like a jack russell terrier.
 
2013-03-20 09:07:20 PM

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StreetlightInTheGhetto: Brubold: I'm a conservative and have never used an ignore feature on any site. For those liberals who haven't here, good for you. However you can't deny that there's some sort of list that the liberal posters have here of conservative posters they put on ignore. I see them mentioning it every so often.

You have got to be kidding me.

Conspiracy theory minded much?

Yeah I have an Ignore list but there's no instruction manual or anything. It's just "Do you only say dumb things? IGNORED"


how do you ignore yourself? 0/0=?  rimshot
 
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