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(Texas Tribune)   Local Tea Party president and former American Fascist Party member describes the AFP as "basically a scattering of people across the continent just complaining"   (texastribune.org) divider line 20
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2013-03-18 03:08:08 PM
3 votes:
So basically nothing has changed. Other than the people he's currently associated being a bit older, more dependent upon government services who spend most of their time complaining about government spending and entitlement programs
2013-03-18 05:52:18 PM
2 votes:

runwiz: "From my point of view, it was all pro-Constitution, pro-America," Ives said of the group, which appears to be defunct.

What is it about "fascist" that he did not understand?


Fascism characteristically plays to nationalism, to God and country and appeals to "salt of the earth" types as being better than those pointy-headed intellectuals that think they know the better than the rest of us.  Appeals to loathing of one or more disfavored ethnic groups are optional.

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That motto reads "work, family, country", si vous ne parlez pas français.  It would be right at home in a Tea Party meeting.  The above is in fact the coat of arms of Vichy France.
2013-03-18 04:10:27 PM
2 votes:
"From my point of view, it was all pro-Constitution, pro-America," Ives said of the group, which appears to be defunct.
"I never did anything," he added. "There really weren't enough people involved to be a gathering, let alone a rally. It was basically a scattering of people across the continent just complaining."
He said he believed he'd uncovered an underground cabal - and decided to stick around to do research for a "political novel of intrigue."
"I thought, 'I can blow the lid off of this. ... I can go inside and find out what's going on,'" Ives said.


So which is it? He gives multiple very different excuses. He says he wasn't involved, he says they were actually patriots, he says they weren't a real organization, he said he was undercover for a novel.

These excuses make no sense if you believe them all.
2013-03-18 03:53:05 PM
2 votes:

FloydA: Fascists are nazi, which is a branch of socsialism that was run by the gays. Socisialism is a form of communism, which means that they are actally a kind of moslim. That's how you know their athiest liberals.


Get this man a TV program and a chalk board
2013-03-18 03:50:41 PM
2 votes:

Nadie_AZ: What I'm trying to put together is the idea of supporting an authoritarian government while being a member of a group that says it wants less government.


That has been the stance of American conservatives for quite a while.

Libertarian about their own interests.
Authoritarian about YOUR rights.
2013-03-19 09:21:54 AM
1 votes:
The Progressive Caucus consists of 68 House members.

The Tea Party Caucus has 49.

Somehow, we hear far more about the latter than the former.
2013-03-18 07:33:23 PM
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: Ives tells a more nuanced story; the Richmond, Texas, resident says he stumbled across the fascist party - which supports extreme right-wing authoritarian regimes - online in the early 2000s as an "amateur political science student and frustrated novelist" and was merely curious.

"From my point of view, it was all pro-Constitution, pro-America," Ives said of the group, which appears to be defunct.

"I never did anything," he added. "There really weren't enough people involved to be a gathering, let alone a rally. It was basically a scattering of people across the continent just complaining."

I'm not really surprised- it was an era where Americans were petrified of dark corners and imaginary evils.

What I'm trying to put together is the idea of supporting an authoritarian government while being a member of a group that says it wants less government.


"An era"??

Honey, it was only ten years ago. Things haven't changed that much. And neither has this douchebag. He's still the fascist authoritarian scumbag he was then. A leopard might bleach off its spots, but it's still a leopard where it counts.
2013-03-18 05:52:47 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Boy that sounds just like what the Tea Party wants doesn't it?


Yeah. Actually completely. Do you need examples?
2013-03-18 05:46:26 PM
1 votes:
randomjsa (farkied: "Holy fnck you're an idiot." - Nina_Hartley's_Ass): fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Boy that sounds just like what the Tea Party wants doesn't it?


Yup.  That's exactly what the Tea Party wants.  More precisely, it's what the billionaires pulling their strings want.

Kudos on finally figuring that out.
2013-03-18 05:34:46 PM
1 votes:
fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Boy that sounds just like what the Tea Party wants doesn't it?
2013-03-18 05:30:26 PM
1 votes:

God's Hubris: I wonder how long the transition from fascist to teabagger took.


It would have to take quite a while. I mean, one group loudly proclaims a specific national identity while admonishing any and all outsiders as not worthy and dangerous enemies of the state. The same group pushes false economic beliefs dependent on a faux national identity built on idiotic theory and a revisionist history. They also spend their time idolizing past leaders with trumped up stories and nationalistic propaganda in an effort to take their country back from the evils of society.

And the other group is a bunch of fascists.
2013-03-18 04:59:42 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: Dr Dreidel: I just came here to say "a pastiche of fascists".

// tried to make a joke, couldn't


Here you go.

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Oh..I thought you said "pasta."


I got some swastika brand vegetarian BBQ sauce at the asian market the other day just for the lulz.
2013-03-18 04:20:24 PM
1 votes:
I only wish this was viral marketing for Bioshock Infinite

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2013-03-18 04:03:01 PM
1 votes:
www.georgetownbookshop.com
This isn't anything new. What comes around, goes around.
2013-03-18 03:53:42 PM
1 votes:

If you keep finding that people who share your ideas are sociopaths or other moral monsters, you might want to reconsider why you adhere to those ideas.

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2013-03-18 03:52:51 PM
1 votes:
So he's gone from the "flour, yeast, water, salt and an oven" party to the "things you need to make bread" party?

I wonder how he's managing such a drastic change.
2013-03-18 03:52:02 PM
1 votes:
Ives tells a more nuanced story; the Richmond, Texas, resident says he stumbled across the fascist party -  which supports extreme right-wing authoritarian regimes - online in the early 2000s as an "amateur political science student and frustrated novelist" and was merely curious.
"From my point of view, it was all pro-Constitution, pro-America," Ives said of the group, which appears to be defunct.


Huh?
2013-03-18 03:25:07 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: Lionel Mandrake: I thought fascists were liberal...why did he join the Tea Party?

Fascists are nazi, which is a branch of socsialism that was run by the gays.  Socisialism is a form of communism, which means that they are actally a kind of moslim.  That's how you know their athiest liberals.

HTH


My brain just broke.
2013-03-18 03:13:21 PM
1 votes:
I am completely unsurprised by a Teabaggers past political associations.
2013-03-18 03:09:12 PM
1 votes:
Ives tells a more nuanced story; the Richmond, Texas, resident says he stumbled across the fascist party - which supports extreme right-wing authoritarian regimes - online in the early 2000s as an "amateur political science student and frustrated novelist" and was merely curious.

"From my point of view, it was all pro-Constitution, pro-America," Ives said of the group, which appears to be defunct.

"I never did anything," he added. "There really weren't enough people involved to be a gathering, let alone a rally. It was basically a scattering of people across the continent just complaining."


I'm not really surprised- it was an era where Americans were petrified of dark corners and imaginary evils.

What I'm trying to put together is the idea of supporting an authoritarian government while being a member of a group that says it wants less government.
 
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