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(Daily Mail)   Police unsure how a convicted sex offender, who was taken into custody after being charged with murdering a woman and raping her ten year old daughter, could show up to his first hearing with a broken nose   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 329
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2013-03-18 03:40:44 PM
A whole lot of people in here need to RTFA. The cops didn't do this. The inmates of the jail did. He was in an open holding area. He raped a kid. 'Nuff said.
 
2013-03-18 03:41:23 PM

mootmah: [wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net image 630x472]


That's awesome.
 
2013-03-18 03:42:53 PM

Caffandtranqs: Warlordtrooper: Caffandtranqs: Warlordtrooper: He lost his job at a supermarket, moved in with his mother and hadn't been able to find other work after his arrest, according to court documents.


So can we actually have an honest discussion about the unintended consequences of things like sex offender registries and how it can lead to more crime or should I just surrender to the fact that I'll be called a rape apologists for bringing up flaws in the system.

I could get behind you on that if his latest crime had been a bank robbery or something of the sort, not murdering a woman and raping her daughter.  His not being able to find work should have no bearing on his inability to not kill and rape.

If you push a person far enough they will do anything they have to.  I'm not saying that murder and rape is justified because its not.  But these people on these lists have no options.  They can't support themselves because they can't get a job  they have no friends and so they get pissed off and guess what they do.  They lash out back at the society that shuns them.  Its quite possible that if somebody had given this man a job, a 10 year old would have never been raped and her mother would still be alive.

Pretending a problem doesn't exists doesn't make it go away.  I'm interesting in fixing the problem not just ignoring it.

Great Janitor: It's not blood lust on my part.  It's that he took two people, a mother and daughter, bound them both.  As the mother watched (I assume, but definitely within  ear shot) he raped the girl, then with the girl still in the car, he stabbed the mother.  How does this man deserve anything other than to have the same done to him?  Shouldn't he get the chance to experience what he put his victims through?

That is not how justice works.  That is how vengeance works and there is a huge difference between the two.

By that reasoning, it would have made more sense for the guy to go on a mass murdering spree if he was so pissed off at society.  ...


By That reasoning, this guy should not live in a reasonable society so it's OUR responsibility to hunt his ass down like a pack of rabid zombies with pitchforks, repeatedly stab him while he cries for mercy and then we should repeatedly sodomize him with flaming torches while salting and pissing in his wounds......slowly.....
Accept it.
 
2013-03-18 03:43:03 PM
Warlordtrooper:

Great Janitor: It's not blood lust on my part.  It's that he took two people, a mother and daughter, bound them both.  As the mother watched (I assume, but definitely within  ear shot) he raped the girl, then with the girl still in the car, he stabbed the mother.  How does this man deserve anything other than to have the same done to him?  Shouldn't he get the chance to experience what he put his victims through?

That is not how justice works.  That is how vengeance works and there is a huge difference between the two.


Vengeance is I was wronged, now I am going to seek what I view to be justice without going through the law.  Justice is using the law to punish someone for their crimes.  If I get robbed, vengeance is me finding the person who robbed me, busting down his door, stealing back my stuff and taking his instead.  Justice is the courts saying that he is guilty of robbing me and must return my stuff and pay for damages.

A justice system that allows for a prisoner like this man to be protected from harm isn't really justice.  It's almost an insult to his victims that he will forever be protected by the state from someone doing to him what he did to them.

The entire idea of locking people away for years is wrong.  What good comes from it?  People go to prison for any number of charges, non-violent and violent, and they get released, they aren't rehabilitated because that's not part of the punishment process, many go back to prison, many who get released have the stigma of being an ex-con following them for their entire lives combined with not being apart of society.  Why not look into other forms of punishment?
 
2013-03-18 03:43:32 PM

Rapmaster2000: Great Janitor: Great, another rapist for CNN to weep over.

I don't get it.


Likely a reference to this thread.
 
2013-03-18 03:44:48 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Cagey B: DerPups: for those that DRTFA, the 5-0 didn't do it, the general pop did...

Yes. Because he was put into custody with other prisoners, against established procedure. Wonder how that happened.

Paperwork mixup.  Jailers thought he was in for littering & creating a nuisance.


Well, in their defense he does look a bit OWSy.  Isn't it time we got serious about euthanizing people so ugly they wouldn't even be able to pay for sex.  They are just ticking time bombs.
 
2013-03-18 03:46:15 PM

Killer Cars: Is there a particular reason the article includes a picture of a guy pressing his face up against a pane of glass?


He getting ready to lick it?
 
2013-03-18 03:46:19 PM

boozehat: Bonanza Jellybean: holy farking shiat, what a gutwrenching story.

/live outside syracuse, and somehow didn't hear about this

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.... especially from the Daily Mail.


This one is all over the local news. It's real. And yes, I'm annoyed that the Daily Fail is the link that was approved, when it's all over the farking LOCAL news.
 
2013-03-18 03:47:38 PM

WhoopAssWayne: We need to a place to segregate criminals like this from the rest of society, humanely, and with little to no expense for the rest of us. What if we just gave them part of North Dakota, an arable part, and just let them have at it. Yeah, it would be difficult, but surely there is a way to make it work. Give trustees police power / tasers maybe, with the rest working the fields? Hollywood tells us it would descend into Escape from New York, but I'm not so sure that would happen. Australia turned out ok.


It's been suggested before:

covers.openlibrary.org

/ hotter than the valley
// one of the better game modules I've read
 
2013-03-18 03:48:01 PM

Lollipop165: "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory" - Da Vinci


Fine, I'll speak my mind instead of quoting that very, very apt quote.

IMNSHO, you are morally NO better then the guy who rapes and tortures when you fantasize/wish/hope rape and torture on someone, no matter how deserving they are. You are cut from the same cloth, you just haven't acted on  it....yet. Under the right circumstances?  Make no mistake, you are closer to being them then you want to believe when you indulge such base thinking.

Bloodlust fantasies. Just like they have and act on. That is all it is. Smarten up.
 
2013-03-18 03:48:31 PM

This text is now purple: Caffandtranqs: I could get behind you on that if his latest crime had been a bank robbery or something of the sort, not murdering a woman and raping her daughter.

The word "allegedly" is important. Keep in mind, for this type of crime, he falls into the category of "usual suspects". He'd probably be arrested after that crime even if there was nothing else to tie him to the event besides his history.


He would have been a suspect, yes.  Arrested without evidence?  Doubtful.  The judge would toss the case out as soon as it hit his desk, then talk smack to the cops for arresting and charging someone without having any evidence.
 
2013-03-18 03:49:30 PM

Warlordtrooper: He lost his job at a supermarket, moved in with his mother and hadn't been able to find other work after his arrest, according to court documents.


So can we actually have an honest discussion about the unintended consequences of things like sex offender registries and how it can lead to more crime or should I just surrender to the fact that I'll be called a rape apologists for bringing up flaws in the system.


Conviction records are public. And a criminal background checks are standard for retail employment. And retail sales probably isnt compatible with child pornography. Im not convinced that being or not being on a registry made any difference in his employability the slightest.
 
2013-03-18 03:50:56 PM

ChipNASA: Caffandtranqs: Warlordtrooper: Caffandtranqs: Warlordtrooper: He lost his job at a supermarket, moved in with his mother and hadn't been able to find other work after his arrest, according to court documents.


So can we actually have an honest discussion about the unintended consequences of things like sex offender registries and how it can lead to more crime or should I just surrender to the fact that I'll be called a rape apologists for bringing up flaws in the system.

I could get behind you on that if his latest crime had been a bank robbery or something of the sort, not murdering a woman and raping her daughter.  His not being able to find work should have no bearing on his inability to not kill and rape.

If you push a person far enough they will do anything they have to.  I'm not saying that murder and rape is justified because its not.  But these people on these lists have no options.  They can't support themselves because they can't get a job  they have no friends and so they get pissed off and guess what they do.  They lash out back at the society that shuns them.  Its quite possible that if somebody had given this man a job, a 10 year old would have never been raped and her mother would still be alive.

Pretending a problem doesn't exists doesn't make it go away.  I'm interesting in fixing the problem not just ignoring it.

Great Janitor: It's not blood lust on my part.  It's that he took two people, a mother and daughter, bound them both.  As the mother watched (I assume, but definitely within  ear shot) he raped the girl, then with the girl still in the car, he stabbed the mother.  How does this man deserve anything other than to have the same done to him?  Shouldn't he get the chance to experience what he put his victims through?

That is not how justice works.  That is how vengeance works and there is a huge difference between the two.

By that reasoning, it would have made more sense for the guy to go on a mass murdering spree if he was so pissed of ...


Umm, WTF are you talking about?  They found him near the scene of the crime!  The kid probably pointed his ugly ass out in the line up after the rape kit was taken.
 
2013-03-18 03:51:15 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Police unsure how a convicted sex offender, who was taken into custody after being charged with murdering a woman and raping her ten year old daughter, could show up to his first hearing with a broken nose alive.

/Seriously though, cops shouldn't be able to beat people up, and "charged" isn't "convicted"


Did you RTFA? Are you 12? Are you a moron? Are you a meme-spouting Useful Idiot?

The cops probably didn't touch him. It was the other inmates. And, BTW, segregation from the general population means squat. There are ways.
 
2013-03-18 03:51:17 PM
Inmates shoulda finished the job.  Wimps!
 
2013-03-18 03:51:43 PM

Great Janitor: Rapmaster2000: Great Janitor: Great, another rapist for CNN to weep over.

I don't get it.

I was referring to an article here on Fark from this morning where CNN anchors were more distraught over the sentences that two rapists received from gang raping an unconscious woman girl than over the actual rape itself.


Fixed for accuracy.

/16 is still a kid
 
2013-03-18 03:51:47 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Could I then be hunted for sport in a coliseum by vigilantes riding panthers?


Obviously not.
Wild felines HATE it when you climb on their backs.
/don't ask me how I know.
//100% death penalty for murderers.
 
2013-03-18 03:53:21 PM
We can agree "innocent until proven guilty".  Can we also agree that "The State" is responsible for it's prisoners safety.  Which leads to this "what if".

What if the alleged douche bag decided to parade around other inmates while showing his humanity by dry humping a pillow while screaming his victims names.

I think the prison population might offer feedback.
  s18.postimage.org
 
2013-03-18 03:54:04 PM
*twitches*

You know, there's a point where people just shouldn't be coddled. What should be done to this...waste...goes above and beyond what any jail could do, gen pop or otherwise. Hell, you'll probably have to go all the way back to the days of the Roman Empire to find an appropriate punishment.
 
2013-03-18 03:54:14 PM

FarkinHostile: IMNSHO, you are morally NO better then the guy who rapes and tortures when you fantasize/wish/hope rape and torture on someone, no matter how deserving they are.


No, I'm pretty sure I'm better than someone who has committed a murder and raped a 10-year-old.  Despite your objection.
 
2013-03-18 03:54:15 PM

FarkinHostile: Lollipop165: "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory" - Da Vinci

Fine, I'll speak my mind instead of quoting that very, very apt quote.

IMNSHO, you are morally NO better then the guy who rapes and tortures when you fantasize/wish/hope rape and torture on someone, no matter how deserving they are. You are cut from the same cloth, you just haven't acted on  it....yet. Under the right circumstances?  Make no mistake, you are closer to being them then you want to believe when you indulge such base thinking.

Bloodlust fantasies. Just like they have and act on. That is all it is. Smarten up.


I disagree. I have no desire to hurt this man nor for him to feel pain. Its just that I am apathetic to his situation. I lack empathy for him because in my opinion, he's turned in his human card.

Far different than bloodlust fantasies.
 
2013-03-18 03:54:28 PM

Publikwerks: Warlordtrooper: If you push a person far enough they will do anything they have to.  I'm not saying that murder and rape is justified because its not.  But these people on these lists have no options.  They can't support themselves because they can't get a job  they have no friends and so they get pissed off and guess what they do.  They lash out back at the society that shuns them.  Its quite possible that if somebody had given this man a job, a 10 year old would have never been raped and her mother would still be alive.

He wasn't on the lists yet. He got arrested for having over 100 gigs of child porn. THEN he lost his job. Then he murdered the mom, and raped the girl.

You know, I can understand that some of the people on the list get screwed because of it, but this guy's a monster.
As a parent, I don't want him tortured. I just want him dead.


I'm not saying the guys a monster,  He deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life.  What isn't acceptable is vigilante justice
 
2013-03-18 03:57:36 PM
Knows something about jail beatings...

www.biography.com
 
2013-03-18 03:58:14 PM

Warlordtrooper: Publikwerks: Warlordtrooper: If you push a person far enough they will do anything they have to.  I'm not saying that murder and rape is justified because its not.  But these people on these lists have no options.  They can't support themselves because they can't get a job  they have no friends and so they get pissed off and guess what they do.  They lash out back at the society that shuns them.  Its quite possible that if somebody had given this man a job, a 10 year old would have never been raped and her mother would still be alive.

He wasn't on the lists yet. He got arrested for having over 100 gigs of child porn. THEN he lost his job. Then he murdered the mom, and raped the girl.

You know, I can understand that some of the people on the list get screwed because of it, but this guy's a monster.
As a parent, I don't want him tortured. I just want him dead.

I'm not saying the guys a monster,  He deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life.  What isn't acceptable is vigilante justice


Err I mean to say that I'm not saying the guys not a monster.
 
2013-03-18 03:58:17 PM

Warlordtrooper: If you push a person far enough they will do anything they have to. I'm not saying that murder and rape is justified because its not. But these people on these lists have no options. They can't support themselves because they can't get a job they have no friends and so they get pissed off and guess what they do. They lash out back at the society that shuns them. Its quite possible that if somebody had given this man a job, a 10 year old would have never been raped and her mother would still be alive.


Actually, that's exactly what you are saying. Perhaps you're wording it wrong.
 
2013-03-18 03:58:22 PM
Yanks_RSJ:

FarkinHostile: IMNSHO, you are morally NO better then the guy who rapes and tortures when you fantasize/wish/hope rape and torture on someone, no matter how deserving they are.

No, I'm pretty sure I'm better than someone who has committed a murder and raped a 10-year-old.  Despite your objection.
-Yanks_RSJ

Don't know if Yanks is a lawyer and IRS auditor.  If he is...then FarkinHolstile is on to something.  Else, FarkinHostile argument is flacid and dangling in the air like cut off micro USB cable.
 
2013-03-18 03:58:29 PM

Digitalstrange: Warlordtrooper: HotWingConspiracy: Damn man, I wonder if getting his child pron mainline cut off is what drove this episode.

I think it had more to do with his inability to find employement because of the "OMG won't somebody think of the children mass hysteria that has gripped this country"

Yeah, why wouldn't anyone want to hire this guy?

I am currently unemployed. I overeat and masturbate a lot. Never occurred to me to go out and rape little kids.


See, Fark is not entirely useless. You now have a new activity to put on your to do list.
 
2013-03-18 04:00:33 PM

FarkinHostile: Lollipop165: "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory" - Da Vinci

Fine, I'll speak my mind instead of quoting that very, very apt quote.

IMNSHO, you are morally NO better then the guy who rapes and tortures when you fantasize/wish/hope rape and torture on someone, no matter how deserving they are. You are cut from the same cloth, you just haven't acted on  it....yet. Under the right circumstances?  Make no mistake, you are closer to being them then you want to believe when you indulge such base thinking.

Bloodlust fantasies. Just like they have and act on. That is all it is. Smarten up.


So thinking about something is the same as actually doing it?  I've thought about a lot of illegal things, but I've never done them.  Probably because I'm a sane, rational human being.  But I'm no better than a murderer?  By your logic, 90% of Fark commenters should be locked up.

/thought crimes FTW
 
2013-03-18 04:02:54 PM

Great Janitor: Rapmaster2000: Great Janitor: Great, another rapist for CNN to weep over.

I don't get it.

I was referring to an article here on Fark from this morning where CNN anchors were more distraught over the sentences that two rapists received from gang raping an unconscious woman than over the actual rape itself.


I see.  I had not heard that.
 
2013-03-18 04:04:05 PM
the general population of the US is as far removed and out of touch with the realities of the broken justice/penal system in this country as their leaders are from the general population.


and the cycle continues.
 
2013-03-18 04:04:31 PM

Lollipop165: I disagree. I have no desire to hurt this man nor for him to feel pain. Its just that I am apathetic to his situation. I lack empathy for him because in my opinion, he's turned in his human card.

Far different than bloodlust fantasies.



A lack of empathy is a sign of a sociopath. A lack of empathy is why he raped a little girl and killed a woman. A lack of empathy is the path to evil, and all it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to do nothing.

 

'Yanks_RSJ: No, I'm pretty sure I'm better than someone who has committed a murder and raped a 10-year-old. Despite your objection.



You are as moral as he is, you just don't have the right opportunity to  act on it. But keep going over in your head about him being brutally raped and tortured in prison. Maybe you'll get lucky and have a chance to act out your fantasies someday.
 
2013-03-18 04:06:15 PM

Carousel Beast: Warlordtrooper: If you push a person far enough they will do anything they have to. I'm not saying that murder and rape is justified because its not. But these people on these lists have no options. They can't support themselves because they can't get a job they have no friends and so they get pissed off and guess what they do. They lash out back at the society that shuns them. Its quite possible that if somebody had given this man a job, a 10 year old would have never been raped and her mother would still be alive.

Actually, that's exactly what you are saying. Perhaps you're wording it wrong.


No that's not what I'm saying.  If you back a wounded animal into a corner where it has no escape from what do you suspect its going to do?  There are many people who deserve to be in jail.  Like this guy, that doesn't mean he deserves to be subjected to "prison justice"  Rape is a crime which is part of why he's going to spend the rest of his life in jail.  The fact that a rape happens in jail doesn't all of a sudden make it legal.
 
2013-03-18 04:06:19 PM

studs up: nmemkha: Deserved or not, its not advantageous to a free and fair society to allow the police to dispense arbitrary vigilante justice.

FTFA:He was assaulted by other inmates at the Onondaga County Justice Center during his first day in jail

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294676/David-Renz-Sex-offend e r-killed-librarian-raped-daughter-10-beaten-day-jail.html#ixzz2Nv5g6uJ x

Just jumped out in front of that as fast as you could, huh?
/Not a fan of police myself, typically


Did you read the whole thing?   Sheriff Kevin Walsh told the newspaper he was looking into why Renz was put into a holding area with other prisoners - not the usual practice in holding someone facing such accusations.

Looks like the cops let the inmates dole out the vigilante justice after all, doesn't it?
 
2013-03-18 04:06:44 PM

blatz514: Knows something about jail beatings...
www.biography.com


That photo always creeps me out. Not in the usual way, though. It creeps me out because Dalmer was a dead-ringer for a cousin of mine who a couple of decades ago did time for molesting a couple of kids, and is now subject to Megan's Law. He stays scrupulously clean...says he NEVER wants to go back to jail.

/not that I doubt him on that subject
 
2013-03-18 04:09:12 PM

Warlordtrooper: He lost his job at a supermarket, moved in with his mother and hadn't been able to find other work after his arrest, according to court documents.


So can we actually have an honest discussion about the unintended consequences of things like sex offender registries and how it can lead to more crime or should I just surrender to the fact that I'll be called a rape apologists for bringing up flaws in the system.


People who have been convicted of possessing child pornography belong on a sex offender registry.
 
m00
2013-03-18 04:09:43 PM
Photos of Renz, too, are being withheld for fearthey could 'pollute the investigation,' New York State Police Captain Mark Lincoln said in a Friday morning press conference.

...yeah about that...

i.dailymail.co.uk
Suspect: David Renz, 29, has been charged with murder, rape and kidnapping in connection to a deadly carjacking or a woman and her daughter
 
2013-03-18 04:10:09 PM

FarkinHostile: Lollipop165: I disagree. I have no desire to hurt this man nor for him to feel pain. Its just that I am apathetic to his situation. I lack empathy for him because in my opinion, he's turned in his human card.

Far different than bloodlust fantasies.


A lack of empathy is a sign of a sociopath. A lack of empathy is why he raped a little girl and killed a woman. A lack of empathy is the path to evil, and all it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to do nothing.

 'Yanks_RSJ: No, I'm pretty sure I'm better than someone who has committed a murder and raped a 10-year-old. Despite your objection.


You are as moral as he is, you just don't have the right opportunity to  act on it. But keep going over in your head about him being brutally raped and tortured in prison. Maybe you'll get lucky and have a chance to act out your fantasies someday.


It's time to play...  Idiot or Troll?
 
2013-03-18 04:10:45 PM

nmemkha: Deserved or not, its not advantageous to a free and fair society to allow the police to dispense arbitrary vigilante justice.


Exactly. It indicates a corrupt police force. The sooner they start testing wannabe cops for psychopathy the better.
 
2013-03-18 04:10:57 PM

Warlordtrooper: Publikwerks: Warlordtrooper: If you push a person far enough they will do anything they have to.  I'm not saying that murder and rape is justified because its not.  But these people on these lists have no options.  They can't support themselves because they can't get a job  they have no friends and so they get pissed off and guess what they do.  They lash out back at the society that shuns them.  Its quite possible that if somebody had given this man a job, a 10 year old would have never been raped and her mother would still be alive.

He wasn't on the lists yet. He got arrested for having over 100 gigs of child porn. THEN he lost his job. Then he murdered the mom, and raped the girl.

You know, I can understand that some of the people on the list get screwed because of it, but this guy's a monster.
As a parent, I don't want him tortured. I just want him dead.

I'm not saying the guys a monster,  He deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life.  What isn't acceptable is vigilante justice


I used to believe in beating someone like this up or getting them no matter what. But then I remember that I thought Gary Condit was a murderer and it turned out he was 100% innocent. Since then I reserve my thoughts until all evidence is heard.
 
2013-03-18 04:11:34 PM

andychrist420: So thinking about something is the same as actually doing it? I've thought about a lot of illegal things, but I've never done them. Probably because I'm a sane, rational human being. But I'm no better than a murderer? By your logic, 90% of Fark commenters should be locked up.


My whole thing about these threads is the rape/torture fantasies that so many people come in here and post, and somehow think of themselves as good people because the people they want raped/tortured were bad people. Well, I got news for you, when you want someone, anyone to be raped and tortured, you are NOT a good person. You are indulging in a horrible, base thought process, just like the maggot who did this crime, and are staring into the abyss.

Civilized people don't want/fantasize about torture/rape. Period.
 
2013-03-18 04:11:43 PM
Warlordtrooper: If you push a person far enough they will do anything they have to. I'm not saying that murder and rape is justified because its not. But these people on these lists have no options. They can't support themselves because they can't get a job they have no friends and so they get pissed off and guess what they do. They lash out back at the society that shuns them. Its quite possible that if somebody had given this man a job, a 10 year old would have never been raped and her mother would still be alive.

Do you really want to employ, work with, live next door to, be friends with or interact in any way with a person who likes to beat off to children getting raped? I certainly don't and I don't think that that makes me a bad person.

Child porn is a bit more than "OMG, think of the children!" hysteria as you posted earlier. It is actual children being filmed as they are raped and abused for the sexual gratification of people who have absolutely no empathy/conscience.
 
2013-03-18 04:12:01 PM

FarkinHostile: You are as moral as he is, you just don't have the right opportunity to  act on it. But keep going over in your head about him being brutally raped and tortured in prison. Maybe you'll get lucky and have a chance to act out your fantasies someday.


Congrats on that Sociology degree.
 
2013-03-18 04:12:28 PM

FarkinHostile: words


People who judge and/or lecture other people on the internet are literally Hitler Stalin Pol Pot evil tantamount to serial killers
 
2013-03-18 04:12:57 PM
I am actually surprised. I have a friend who works in a prison and they take this shiat pretty seriously. Offenders that are high up on the 'likely to get the shiat kicked out of them' are usually put into  ad seg.
 
2013-03-18 04:13:29 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Lollipop165: Let's get off the slippery slope shall we? Jaywalking is not the same as carjacking someone with the intent of murdering a mother and raping a child.

What if I just carjack someone but don't rape or kill anybody?  Could I then be hunted for sport in a coliseum by vigilantes riding panthers?


Only if I get to sell pay-per-view rights...

(I'll give you 10% of profit)
 
2013-03-18 04:13:38 PM

kg2095: nmemkha: Deserved or not, its not advantageous to a free and fair society to allow the police to dispense arbitrary vigilante justice.

Exactly. It indicates a corrupt police force. The sooner they start testing wannabe cops for psychopathy the better.


You'd sound a lot smarter if you RTFA.
 
2013-03-18 04:13:46 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: I am actually surprised. I have a friend who works in a prison and they take this shiat pretty seriously. Offenders that are high up on the 'likely to get the shiat kicked out of them' are usually put into  ad seg.


The article mentioned that. Chances are the cops sorta "looked the other way". I wouldn't be surprised if the killer sued the cops.
 
2013-03-18 04:15:23 PM

Warlordtrooper: He lost his job at a supermarket, moved in with his mother and hadn't been able to find other work after his arrest, according to court documents.


So can we actually have an honest discussion about the unintended consequences of things like sex offender registries and how it can lead to more crime or should I just surrender to the fact that I'll be called a rape apologists for bringing up flaws in the system.


I agree with you. Not about the rape apologist part.

I don't know of a good solution. But I know this "solution" doesn't work. Sucks all around. Giggidy.
 
2013-03-18 04:16:02 PM

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 500x348]


Is that the opposite of "Kill them all Davy"
 
2013-03-18 04:16:05 PM

FarkinHostile: andychrist420: So thinking about something is the same as actually doing it? I've thought about a lot of illegal things, but I've never done them. Probably because I'm a sane, rational human being. But I'm no better than a murderer? By your logic, 90% of Fark commenters should be locked up.

My whole thing about these threads is the rape/torture fantasies that so many people come in here and post, and somehow think of themselves as good people because the people they want raped/tortured were bad people. Well, I got news for you, when you want someone, anyone to be raped and tortured, you are NOT a good person. You are indulging in a horrible, base thought process, just like the maggot who did this crime, and are staring into the abyss.

Civilized people don't want/fantasize about torture/rape. Period.


They can, and sometimes do.  What makes them civilized is that they do not actually do it.  They're called fantasies for a reason.
 
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