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(Daily Mail)   Police unsure how a convicted sex offender, who was taken into custody after being charged with murdering a woman and raping her ten year old daughter, could show up to his first hearing with a broken nose   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 329
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2013-03-18 02:59:15 PM  
NOT how I expected the guy to look at all. Wow.
 
2013-03-18 02:59:31 PM  
Poor little delicate flower. I'm so heartbroken at his rough treatment.
 
2013-03-18 03:00:34 PM  
Great, another rapist for CNN to weep over.
 
2013-03-18 03:00:49 PM  

Jae0o0: NOT how I expected the guy to look at all. Wow.


I was trying to come up with something more clever but you pegged it.
 
2013-03-18 03:00:56 PM  
Deserved or not, its not advantageous to a free and fair society to allow the police to dispense arbitrary vigilante justice.
 
2013-03-18 03:01:21 PM  
Was that a before pic?  If anything they were helping him smash it back into place.
 
2013-03-18 03:01:30 PM  
I bet he doesn't last the month......
 
2013-03-18 03:01:34 PM  
I would have had a hard time explaining why we couldn't find his head.

Just sayin'. It was here a minute ago, I swear.
 
2013-03-18 03:01:40 PM  
Filthy pigs
 
2013-03-18 03:02:19 PM  
He fell down, or something.

/ probably got into a scrap while in jail; they don't like kiddy diddlers there
 
2013-03-18 03:02:56 PM  
He "fell". A lot.
 
2013-03-18 03:03:05 PM  
So jail / prison isn't a nice place to be ?
 
2013-03-18 03:03:12 PM  
Police unsure how a convicted sex offender, who was taken into custody after being charged with murdering a woman and raping her ten year old daughter, could show up to his first hearing with a broken nose alive.

/Seriously though, cops shouldn't be able to beat people up, and "charged" isn't "convicted"
 
2013-03-18 03:03:30 PM  
The guys at the county jail say that this sort of thing is common.
 
2013-03-18 03:04:06 PM  
His face kept slamming into the cops fist
 
2013-03-18 03:04:16 PM  

nmemkha: Deserved or not, its not advantageous to a free and fair society to allow the police to dispense arbitrary vigilante justice.


I would opine that this particular vigilante justice was anything but arbitrary.

/not saying I'd have done it myself
//but I understand
 
2013-03-18 03:04:43 PM  

nmemkha: Deserved or not, its not advantageous to a free and fair society to allow the police to dispense arbitrary vigilante justice.


well technically the police didn't dispense anything... however an omission... that may be a different story
 
2013-03-18 03:04:53 PM  

cig-mkr: So jail / prison isn't a nice place to be ?


People who have't been convicted should not be treated as if they have been found guilty.
 
2013-03-18 03:05:02 PM  

cig-mkr: So jail / prison isn't a nice place to be ?


I don't see it listed on Travelocity.com.
 
2013-03-18 03:05:32 PM  
for those that DRTFA, the 5-0 didn't do it, the general pop did...
 
2013-03-18 03:06:06 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Police unsure how a convicted sex offender, who was taken into custody after being charged with murdering a woman and raping her ten year old daughter, could show up to his first hearing with a broken nose alive.

/Seriously though, cops shouldn't be able to beat people up, and "charged" isn't "convicted"


He *was* convicted of possession of child porn previously, thus a "convicted sex offender".  It's all right there in TFA.
 
2013-03-18 03:07:16 PM  
First greenlight!

Just unfortunate that it came from such a tragic story :-(
 
2013-03-18 03:07:28 PM  
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2013-03-18 03:07:31 PM  

DerPups: for those that DRTFA, the 5-0 didn't do it, the general pop did...


Yes. Because he was put into custody with other prisoners, against established procedure. Wonder how that happened.
 
2013-03-18 03:08:06 PM  

offmymeds: cig-mkr: So jail / prison isn't a nice place to be ?

I don't see it listed on Travelocity.com.


You guys are makin' up rhymes

About some Mommy killer, kid banger doin' time

Once nerdboy hit the cage,

The other prisoners unleashed their rage

/it's got a nice beat to it, I can dance to it.
 
2013-03-18 03:08:18 PM  

nmemkha: Deserved or not, its not advantageous to a free and fair society to allow the police to dispense arbitrary vigilante justice.


FTFA:He was assaulted by other inmates at the Onondaga County Justice Center during his first day in jail

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294676/David-Renz-Sex-offend e r-killed-librarian-raped-daughter-10-beaten-day-jail.html#ixzz2Nv5g6uJ x

Just jumped out in front of that as fast as you could, huh?
/Not a fan of police myself, typically
 
2013-03-18 03:08:23 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Police unsure how a convicted sex offender, who was taken into custody after being charged with murdering a woman and raping her ten year old daughter, could show up to his first hearing with a broken nose alive.

/Seriously though, cops shouldn't be able to beat people up, and "charged" isn't "convicted"


Fortunately, there's gen pop.
 
2013-03-18 03:09:06 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: cig-mkr: So jail / prison isn't a nice place to be ?

People who have't been convicted should not be treated as if they have been found guilty.


So you're suggesting someone charged with a sex crime should be released on conditions and not kept in jail? Hmm, well let's see here....

FTA: The 29-year-old had been charged in January with possession of child pornography and allowed to remain free under terms that included staying off the Internet and away from places including schools, parks and arcades.

If this guy had been in jail where he belonged the first time round, that kid's mother would be alive today and the kid wouldn't have a lifetime of therapy ahead of her.
 
2013-03-18 03:09:11 PM  
This is how to explain it it--FTA:
He was assaulted by other inmates at the Onondaga County Justice Center during his first day in jail.
Guy is messed up.
 
2013-03-18 03:09:20 PM  

nmemkha: Deserved or not, its not advantageous to a free and fair society to allow the police to dispense arbitrary vigilante justice.


According to TFA, it wasn't the police who did it, it was apparently fellow prisoners.  Though there does seem to be an issue with them allowing him into the public holding cell.

He raped a girl and murdered her mother.  Don't guard this farker, don't put any effort into protecting him.  Let his fellow inmates bound him and rape him as he did to his victim.  That's the least he deserves.
 
2013-03-18 03:09:33 PM  
Did that article have every revision of the story just one after the other after the other or am I seeing in multiples?
 
2013-03-18 03:09:38 PM  
/Oblig
 
2013-03-18 03:09:50 PM  
Yeah, he looks like a guy who's likely to have normal, healthy relationships with women.
 
2013-03-18 03:10:05 PM  

nmemkha: Deserved or not, its not advantageous to a free and fair society to allow the police to dispense arbitrary vigilante justice.


Want to know how I know you didn't RTFA?

His attorneys, James Greenwald and Kenneth Moynihan, said Renz was assaulted by other inmates at the Onondaga County Justice Center, where he was taken following his arrest Thursday night
 
2013-03-18 03:10:15 PM  

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2013-03-18 03:10:33 PM  
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Preview is your friend
 
2013-03-18 03:10:40 PM  
he will claim insanity and get it.
 
2013-03-18 03:10:54 PM  

Cagey B: DerPups: for those that DRTFA, the 5-0 didn't do it, the general pop did...

Yes. Because he was put into custody with other prisoners, against established procedure. Wonder how that happened.


Paperwork mixup.  Jailers thought he was in for littering & creating a nuisance.
 
2013-03-18 03:11:02 PM  
We need to a place to segregate criminals like this from the rest of society, humanely, and with little to no expense for the rest of us. What if we just gave them part of North Dakota, an arable part, and just let them have at it. Yeah, it would be difficult, but surely there is a way to make it work. Give trustees police power / tasers maybe, with the rest working the fields? Hollywood tells us it would descend into Escape from New York, but I'm not so sure that would happen. Australia turned out ok.
 
2013-03-18 03:11:44 PM  
A civilized society recognizes that even despicable criminals have rights.  Just because no one will actually give a damn about this guy, it doesn't mean it is acceptable to have convicts torturing other convicts.

Unless you are ok not living in a civilized society.
 
2013-03-18 03:12:50 PM  
Damn man, I wonder if getting his child pron mainline cut off is what drove this episode.
 
2013-03-18 03:13:02 PM  

maggoo: A civilized society recognizes that even despicable criminals have rights.  Just because no one will actually give a damn about this guy, it doesn't mean it is acceptable to have convicts torturing other convicts.

Unless you are ok not living in a civilized society.


I came to say this. Very well put.
 
2013-03-18 03:13:33 PM  

Master Sphincter: he will claim insanity and get it.


The common myth is that an insanity plea will get you off.  The reality, however, is that an insanity plea just sends you to a mental ward, a place that can actually be worse than prison.
 
2013-03-18 03:14:08 PM  

Great Janitor: Great, another rapist for CNN to weep over.


I don't get it.
 
2013-03-18 03:16:25 PM  
There has to be some sort of genetic problem here.
 
2013-03-18 03:17:19 PM  
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2013-03-18 03:17:34 PM  
He lost his job at a supermarket, moved in with his mother and hadn't been able to find other work after his arrest, according to court documents.


So can we actually have an honest discussion about the unintended consequences of things like sex offender registries and how it can lead to more crime or should I just surrender to the fact that I'll be called a rape apologists for bringing up flaws in the system.
 
2013-03-18 03:17:43 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Great Janitor: Great, another rapist for CNN to weep over.

I don't get it.


I was referring to an article here on Fark from this morning where CNN anchors were more distraught over the sentences that two rapists received from gang raping an unconscious woman than over the actual rape itself.
 
2013-03-18 03:18:05 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Great Janitor: Great, another rapist for CNN to weep over.

I don't get it.


there was a story about 2 high school football players from Ohio that raped an unconscious 16 year old girl.

Guilty verdicts came down to both of the young men.

CNN spent a good portion of time lamenting how these young men's lives were going to be ruined as a result of the conviction.
 
2013-03-18 03:18:22 PM  

RatOmeter: Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Police unsure how a convicted sex offender, who was taken into custody after being charged with murdering a woman and raping her ten year old daughter, could show up to his first hearing with a broken nose alive.

/Seriously though, cops shouldn't be able to beat people up, and "charged" isn't "convicted"

He *was* convicted of possession of child porn previously, thus a "convicted sex offender".  It's all right there in TFA.


On second read, I guess the article did not say he was convicted on the porn charge.
 
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