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(Fox News)   White House announces that it is lowering expectations for Barack Obama's Israel trip, presumably from "establishing the groundwork for a lasting Middle East peace" to "not handing over Israel to the Friends of Hamas"   (foxnews.com) divider line 288
    More: Obvious, obama, White House, Hamas, Middle East, Middle East peace, deputy press secretary, Republican President George W. Bush, Technological escalation  
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2013-03-18 09:09:14 AM  
Cry moar, Israeli lobby. Obama's the best president since Eisenhauer for protecting American interests, not just bowing to Israeli ones.
 
2013-03-18 09:10:11 AM  
Eisenhower .
 
2013-03-18 09:18:42 AM  
I'm deeply concerned

This sounds very concerning

If you're not concerned, you're not paying attention
 
2013-03-18 09:21:12 AM  
Ok, I laughed

This is an awesome troll headline
 
2013-03-18 09:38:51 AM  
I lol'd at the headline, subs. Well done.

I think Obama's doing a great job of not sucking Israel's dick, and I hope he keeps up the good work.
 
2013-03-18 09:42:05 AM  
He can try to squirm out of it now, but his place in history is set.
 
2013-03-18 09:44:09 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: I'm deeply concerned

This sounds very concerning

If you're not concerned, you're not paying attention


My concern is subterranean. It extends to the center of the Earth.
 
2013-03-18 09:46:18 AM  

Generation_D: Eisenhower .


Which president is the most adept at linear algebra?

Ike Eigenhower.

Yeah, I don't know where I was going with this, either.
 
2013-03-18 09:53:54 AM  
The line between "Good troll" and "crazy right winger" is a fine one.
 
2013-03-18 09:54:31 AM  

WorldCitizen: He can try to squirm out of it now, but his place in history is set.


And that was totally the wrong thread. I am not awake yet today.
 
2013-03-18 09:59:07 AM  

WorldCitizen: WorldCitizen: He can try to squirm out of it now, but his place in history is set.

And that was totally the wrong thread. I am not awake yet today.


Freudian slip. Your subconscious wanted to say that Obama is the communist fascist socialist Kenyan usurper anti-Christ anti-Semite empty suit threat to America that everyone says.
 
2013-03-18 10:04:52 AM  

St_Francis_P: WorldCitizen: WorldCitizen: He can try to squirm out of it now, but his place in history is set.

And that was totally the wrong thread. I am not awake yet today.

Freudian slip. Your subconscious wanted to say that Obama is the communist fascist socialist Kenyan usurper anti-Christ anti-Semite empty suit threat to America that everyone says.


Indeed. You caught me.
 
2013-03-18 10:17:12 AM  

Generation_D: Eisenhower .


That name sounds awfully German.

You know who else was German?

Probably that Eigenhower guy.
 
2013-03-18 10:24:16 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: I'm deeply concerned

This sounds very concerning

If you're not concerned, you're not paying attention


I'm sorry... what were we talking about?
 
2013-03-18 10:25:26 AM  
Lasing ME peace simply isn't possible with the current Israeli government.  They're interested only in expansion.
 
2013-03-18 10:43:47 AM  
OMA!
 
2013-03-18 10:44:48 AM  

Via Infinito: I lol'd at the headline, subs. Well done.

I think Obama's doing a great job of not sucking Israel's dick, and I hope he keeps up the good work.


He's no Monica Lewinsky, if *THAT'S* what you're asking.....
/would that mean self sucking?
 
2013-03-18 10:45:47 AM  

GAT_00: Lasing ME peace simply isn't possible with the current Israeli government.  They're interested only in expansion.


I don't know...

/Lasers might be just what we need
 
2013-03-18 10:46:50 AM  
Fox News, with pit sweat and dead men's balls.
 
2013-03-18 10:47:28 AM  
There's a difference between supporting an ally meet objectives for it's people and enabling an ally to run ramshod over it's neighbors and think itself above consequence.
 
2013-03-18 10:49:51 AM  

Summoner101: There's a difference between supporting an ally meet objectives for it's people and enabling an ally to run roughshod over it's neighbors and think itself above consequence.


/FTFM
 
2013-03-18 10:51:17 AM  
Israel is quickly becoming an apartheid state, where Israelis will be the minority ruling over a majority of Arabs who have little or no rights. Its morally reprehensible, especially given the history of the Jewish religion and the Jewish people.
 
2013-03-18 10:51:43 AM  

Summoner101: There's a difference between supporting an ally meet objectives for it's people and enabling an ally to run ramshod over it's neighbors and think itself above consequence.


Yeah, that gives me visions of a horse with rams strapped to its hooves.
 
2013-03-18 10:51:57 AM  

Summoner101: Summoner101: There's a difference between supporting an ally meet objectives for it's people and enabling an ally to run roughshod over it's neighbors and think itself above consequence.

/FTFM


I like ramshod better, honestly. Has a good feel to it. Also, oblique Super Troopers reference.
 
2013-03-18 10:53:47 AM  
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See you at the party, Eisenhauser.
 
2013-03-18 10:54:47 AM  
Rmoney already spelled this out; There is no chance of any agreement in the Israel/Palestine conflict so spending energy there is just a distraction.
 
2013-03-18 10:55:49 AM  

vernonFL: quickly becoming


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-03-18 11:01:41 AM  

Via Infinito: I lol'd at the headline, subs. Well done.

I think Obama's doing a great job of not sucking Israel's dick, and I hope he keeps up the good work.


Because, he's too busy sucking Muslim Brotherhood dick.
 
2013-03-18 11:01:44 AM  

illegal.tender: Summoner101: Summoner101: There's a difference between supporting an ally meet objectives for it's people and enabling an ally to run roughshod over it's neighbors and think itself above consequence.

/FTFM

I like ramshod better, honestly. Has a good feel to it. Also, oblique Super Troopers reference.


I was actually thinking of Super Troopers at the time of writing that sentence, and I believe it to be my downfall on the incorrect spelling of the idiom.

/Who wants a moustache ride!?
 
2013-03-18 11:02:11 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: GAT_00: Lasing ME peace simply isn't possible with the current Israeli government.  They're interested only in expansion.

I don't know...

/Lasers might be just what we need


YOU might think so, but I'll thank Israel to keep its lasers far away from my piece, thankyouverymuch.
 
2013-03-18 11:04:22 AM  

Spare Me: Via Infinito: I lol'd at the headline, subs. Well done.

I think Obama's doing a great job of not sucking Israel's dick, and I hope he keeps up the good work.

Because, he's too busy sucking Muslim Brotherhood dick.


ooga booga
 
2013-03-18 11:08:58 AM  

Spare Me: Via Infinito: I lol'd at the headline, subs. Well done.

I think Obama's doing a great job of not sucking Israel's dick, and I hope he keeps up the good work.

Because, he's too busy sucking Muslim Brotherhood dick.


He won't talk about his connections to the Friends of Hamas. What is he hiding?
 
2013-03-18 11:12:26 AM  

Spare Me: Via Infinito: I lol'd at the headline, subs. Well done.

I think Obama's doing a great job of not sucking Israel's dick, and I hope he keeps up the good work.

Because, he's too busy sucking Muslim Brotherhood dick.


You know very well that it hasn't gone beyond heavy petting.

Or is that droning?
A US President never has to apologize for putting US interests ahead of other countries', and that includes Israel. Obama is somehow expected to blast Iran back to the pre-nuclear age at a moment's notice, but not even give a frank assessment to Netanyahu. That's just silly.
 
2013-03-18 11:14:18 AM  
The stupid thing is, if Israel could just come to terms with the Palestinians, the combination of Israeli money and brains, and a Palestinian workforce, they could together be the next China in terms of economy.
 
2013-03-18 11:15:42 AM  
Wake me when we stop giving Isreal $40,000,000,000 a year in aid.


They don't need it.
 
2013-03-18 11:16:00 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: The stupid thing is, if Israel could just come to terms with the Palestinians, the combination of Israeli money and brains, and a Palestinian workforce, they could together be the next China in terms of economy.



I don't think we need that many figs and olives.
 
2013-03-18 11:16:11 AM  
Frankly, I'm not really sure why we are basically slaves to Israel anyway.

Oh please, may we have another proxy war that's basically protecting only their interests, and ruining ours.

No thanks. Let them actually deal with the consequences of their behavior.
 
2013-03-18 11:18:49 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: The stupid thing is, if Israel could just come to terms with the Palestinians, the combination of Israeli money and brains, and a Palestinian workforce, they could together be the next China in terms of economy.


Isn't it amazing what religious zealotry and permanent clan warfare can accomplish?

No reason for the USA to be involved though. None. Not the idiots in America that think we're helping either.
 
2013-03-18 11:18:54 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: The stupid thing is, if Israel could just come to terms with the Palestinians, the combination of Israeli money and brains, and a Palestinian workforce, they could together be the next China in terms of economy.


no
 
2013-03-18 11:19:35 AM  

Alphakronik: Wake me when we stop giving Isreal $40,000,000,000 a year in aid.


They don't need it.


Biggest welfare state in America.
 
2013-03-18 11:20:31 AM  

neongoats: Frankly, I'm not really sure why we are basically slaves to Israel anyway.

Oh please, may we have another proxy war that's basically protecting only their interests, and ruining ours.

No thanks. Let them actually deal with the consequences of their behavior.


Because of some doomsday cultists who think that having an Israel is helping to bring about the end of days and Jesus's return faster.
 
2013-03-18 11:23:14 AM  

vernonFL: Israel is quickly becoming an apartheid state, where Israelis will be the minority ruling over a majority of Arabs who have little or no rights. Its morally reprehensible, especially given the history of the Jewish religion and the Jewish people.


Apartheid state is a fancy sounding word for someone trying to pigeon hole Jews as people who are 'special in their history of religion and as the Jewish people'.

Every country is FOR it's people... Yes, not all Arabs are citizens, but there ARE Arab citizens with EQUAL rights.  No different than blacks, or Latinos here in America who have EQUAL rights, but are discriminated against, as is the human nature.

If you're here to argue that JEWS are SPECIAL and ANY imperfection from them as a WHOLE PEOPLE means that they are evil. Then we have our first official anti-Semite in this thread.
 
2013-03-18 11:23:52 AM  
I sat let Iran have the bomb. A little Mutually Assured Destruction in that region might actually keep israeli from walking all over everyone.
 
2013-03-18 11:25:43 AM  

vernonFL: Israel is quickly becoming an apartheid state, where Israelis will be the minority ruling over a majority of Arabs who have little or no rights. Its morally reprehensible, especially given the history of the Jewish religion and the Jewish people.


???

Except Arabs are citizens there and they have Arab members of their Knesset. Also, Arabs are not the majority there. So many things wrong here.
 
2013-03-18 11:28:17 AM  

NostroZ: Yes, not all Arabs are citizens, but there ARE Arab citizens with EQUAL rights.


Not in the West Bank.
 
2013-03-18 11:28:22 AM  

Generation_D: Alphakronik: Wake me when we stop giving Isreal $40,000,000,000 a year in aid.


They don't need it.

Biggest welfare state in America.


I used to wonder why Americans often refer to the state of Israel, when we don't use the word "state" for many other foreign countries. I figured out in time that it gets so much from the American teat it is like a fifty-first state.
 
2013-03-18 11:30:08 AM  

InstaZen25: Except Arabs are citizens there and they have Arab members of their Knesset. Also, Arabs are not the majority there. So many things wrong here


Arabs living in the West Bank are not citizens of any country.
 
2013-03-18 11:32:03 AM  
One of the crazy reasons that the U.S. spends so much time on Israel:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-18 11:34:25 AM  
I'm concerned about all the banks. West bank,East bank, here a bank there a bank.
 
2013-03-18 11:35:17 AM  

Generation_D: Alphakronik: Wake me when we stop giving Isreal $40,000,000,000 a year in aid.


They don't need it.

Biggest welfare state in America.


It's pretty obvious that the two of you are lost in WILLFUL IGNORANCE.

For those who prefer to get their opinions from facts, instead of feeling the need to repeat an idiotic remark any time Israel is mentioned; please note the following:


1) Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and Egypt all receive either more or close to what Israel gets in US aid.
2) Unlike Pakistan that was hiding OSB, Israel provides positive intelligence information to the US, in addition to an exchange of military technology, some of which is:


    ADM-141 TALD (Improved Tactical Air Launched Decoy)- device used to protect U.S. warplanes from enemy fire.
    AGM-142 Have Nap "The Popeye" - a precise bomb which hits specific coordinates
    Python missile - A major air to air missile.
    M120 mortar - A 120 mm Mortar developed by Soltam Systems.
    SMAW - An Anti-tank guided missile developed by Israel Military Industries, based on the Israeli B-300.
    Cardom - A 120mm Recoil mortar system using modern electronic navigation, self-positioning, and target acquisition.
    Gabriel missile - A sea skimming Anti-ship missile.
    SIMON breach grenade - A rifle grenade designed to breach through doors. A variant is currently in service with the United States army.
    LITENING targeting pod - A precision targeting pod designed to increase combat effectiveness of aircraft.
    International MaxxPro - An MRAP armored fighting vehicle.
    Samson Remote Controlled Weapon Station - A Remote weapon system.

3) Finally, the money that is sent in 'aid' to Israel is used to purchase US weapons, exclusively.  Therefore, the US 'aid' to Israel amounts to a US military jobs program, since the money is used to purchase US made goods.

_____

I know it's fun to hate Jews and keep screaming "why do we help them!", but don't pretend this is done on a moralistic high-ground.  The US gets plenty for it's money to Israel.  I'd argue we get a MUCH better return on investment than the money we spent in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Pakistan (over a trillion dollars on our two wars... keep it in perspective haters).
 
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