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2013-03-18 05:37:44 PM  
There can only be one...

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2013-03-18 05:45:59 PM  

yesanded: There can only be one...

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Wait....I though ALL bartenders were Satan.
 
2013-03-18 05:49:31 PM  
has anyone mentioned the Bible never says what Satan/devil looks like? Like at all? Indeed it never establishes he ever takes human form, or any physical form. The OT does say Lucifer is a fallen angel, so you could have him look like an angel, except the Bible never says what garden variety angels look like. The ones it does describe, aren't of the fly down from heaven variety and indeed it's not entirely clear just what they're there for in the first place.
 
2013-03-18 05:54:20 PM  

ExpressPork: cygnusx13: Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?

Thiiiiiiiis.

Ah yes, nothing at all of historical relevance in the BIBLE.

You don't have to be religious to understand the significance and enormous impact that one book has had on so much of our modern world.  I'm not religious but I'm also not against knowledge.

I agree with you 100% when it comes to shows on History about bigfoot or whatever but I'm pretty sure the Bible qualifies as being pretty farking historically significant.


Historically significant, yes. Historically factual, no.

Melodramas are best left for Lifetime, mmkay.
 
2013-03-18 05:56:31 PM  

yesanded: There can only be one...

[img.photobucket.com image 644x611]


www.inquisitr.com
 
2013-03-18 05:57:08 PM  

wambu: I hate lazy writers and typecasting.


which is why you hang out on Fark?
 
2013-03-18 05:59:29 PM  

MyKingdomForYourHorse: this most recent Pope is going to be the last pope because of <insert crazy theory here>


Global Climate Change?
 
2013-03-18 06:03:43 PM  
Wow.  They might have put a little more thought into that.  Alternatively maybe they DID put a lot of thought into that.
 
2013-03-18 06:10:28 PM  

nanim: Well, if the producers goal was attention for his/her show, that did it.

/can't imagine this production would've made the pages of Fark otherwise


Actually, it did.  When the first episode's ratings crushed everything else on television, and Hollywood couldn't figure out why.
 
2013-03-18 06:14:58 PM  

This text is now purple: gilgigamesh: Nabb1: WorldCitizen: Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?

This is why I dropped cable.

Because one channel ran a show you don't like? That'll show 'em.

I think he meant because all of these channels that used to show some great documentaries and educational TV are now devoted almost exclusively to crap reality shows. And he is right.

I do sort of miss The Luftwaffe Channel.


To be fair, there's only so much Hitler footage to show.
 
2013-03-18 06:28:01 PM  

Nabb1: The actor in question:

[www.theblaze.com image 350x468]


Holy crap...looks like the lovechild of Vincent Price and Obama. Eek!
 
2013-03-18 06:29:36 PM  

arethereanybeernamesleft: Speaker2Animals: Care to answer the other question posed to you, professor? Any "real" evidence of his existence as religions portray him? Difficulty: bible =/= real.

Ahhhh, the common Christopher Hitchens fan.

Look--betting on or challenging someone to 'prove' the existence of God is a sucker's bet.  They can't do it.  You know they can't.  I know they can't.  If they're being honest, they know they can't.  But scornful disdain for a person's faith, such as that you're exhibiting, makes you a shiatty person, not them.  I'll never understand why anyone thinks Hitchens was smart.  Arguing about evidence where there is none is the most simple-minded schtick there is.  At least he made money off of it, his followers are just dolts.

Here's the thing--faith doesn't require proof.  Hell, not even scientific theory has been proven.  Once it is, we call it a law.  The law of gravity is a law because it has been proven.  The theory of relativity is still not proven, so it's still a theory.   Leave proof of God to theologians, and proof of relativity to physicists.  But don't be surprised when someone believes in something that can't be proven.

Get over yourself.


This.  I'm not religious, but I do find that those with faith in a higher power to be much better people than those who don't.  Maybe a little annoying, but generally good people.  Atheists tend to be insufferable, self important asshats.
 
2013-03-18 06:33:38 PM  
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2013-03-18 06:47:22 PM  

andychrist420: This text is now purple: gilgigamesh: Nabb1: WorldCitizen: Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?

This is why I dropped cable.

Because one channel ran a show you don't like? That'll show 'em.

I think he meant because all of these channels that used to show some great documentaries and educational TV are now devoted almost exclusively to crap reality shows. And he is right.

I do sort of miss The Luftwaffe Channel.

To be fair, there's only so much Hitler footage to show.


That never stopped them. I swear, they used that Fokker at least 10 times.
 
2013-03-18 06:49:26 PM  

andychrist420: arethereanybeernamesleft: Speaker2Animals: Care to answer the other question posed to you, professor? Any "real" evidence of his existence as religions portray him? Difficulty: bible =/= real.

Ahhhh, the common Christopher Hitchens fan.

Look--betting on or challenging someone to 'prove' the existence of God is a sucker's bet.  They can't do it.  You know they can't.  I know they can't.  If they're being honest, they know they can't.  But scornful disdain for a person's faith, such as that you're exhibiting, makes you a shiatty person, not them.  I'll never understand why anyone thinks Hitchens was smart.  Arguing about evidence where there is none is the most simple-minded schtick there is.  At least he made money off of it, his followers are just dolts.

Here's the thing--faith doesn't require proof.  Hell, not even scientific theory has been proven.  Once it is, we call it a law.  The law of gravity is a law because it has been proven.  The theory of relativity is still not proven, so it's still a theory.   Leave proof of God to theologians, and proof of relativity to physicists.  But don't be surprised when someone believes in something that can't be proven.

Get over yourself.

This.  I'm not religious, but I do find that those with faith in a higher power to be much better people than those who don't.  Maybe a little annoying, but generally good people.  Atheists tend to be insufferable, self important asshats.


Yeah, which is why atheists make Chick Tracts, tell everyone that they're responsible for natural disasters because they make God angry, proclaim that we must all swear fealty to God or we will be sent to eternal unspeakable torture by the supposedly all-loving and all-compassionate God who created existence out of love, are told by their faith to convert everyone and slaughter those who refuse to convert, make draconian laws punishing people for loving others who have the same genitals or fark out of wedlock, and demand that the United States declare one religion to be above all others and force everyone to follow it. And how about those Crusades and Inquisition? Let's not forget the annihilation of the native populations of the Americas.

People who need to cower in terror of offending a deity all of their lives in order to not rape and murder and steal for the chance to live in a mansion in an ideal perfection and constantly demonize and criticize others for not imitating them are not the people I want to associate with, have in power, or decide what I can and can't do with my personal life.
 
2013-03-18 06:54:58 PM  
Give credit where credit is due.  They had to go big, and darn it, if GW's molded face can be accidently put on a spike, someone who cultural conservatives see as evil can be used as influence on their version of the devil
 
2013-03-18 07:14:15 PM  
Yo, Icey, what's the point of leaving the "User was banned for this post" up if it contains no information about why? If you're gonna do that, just delete the comment.

Was it hate speech, or them messing with the site or its users?
 
2013-03-18 07:42:33 PM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Yo, Icey, what's the point of leaving the "User was banned for this post" up if it contains no information about why? If you're gonna do that, just delete the comment.

Was it hate speech, or them messing with the site or its users?


You got trolled
 
2013-03-18 07:45:56 PM  

jso2897: This text is now purple: jso2897: This text is now purple: jso2897: s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?

What real evidence is there that any one such person even existed?

Why don't you define "real" for us, Scottie?

Why don't you define it for yourself, Captain?

Because you're clearly setting up a real Scotsman argument, and I want to know where you placed the goal posts before we begin?

Glasgow? Aberdeen? Fook, I dunno!


Perhaps a source not related to an Abrahamic religious text?
 
2013-03-18 08:02:37 PM  

NutWrench: Nabb1: WorldCitizen: Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?

This is why I dropped cable.

Because one channel ran a show you don't like? That'll show 'em.

Well, if you don't appreciate The Bible on the HISTORY CHANNEL, you can always avail yourself to their many other fine, historical offerings, like Big Shrimpin', Cajun Pawn Stars, American Pickers, Hairy Bikers (I am NOT making this up!), UFO hunters, Shark Wranglers, Swamp People or Full Metal Jousting. If this is the best they can do, I'd rather ditch cable completely and read a book.


I can't watch this.
 
2013-03-18 08:07:57 PM  
Of course the devil's a black man. Hello ... And Jesus, as the offspring of Jews in the ancient world, looks like an ultra-Caucasian, hippie youth director. Makes perfect sense.

No wonder this miniseries is so popular with the fundies. It reflects their worldview. Black people are evil, and white people are pure and wholesome (though that Jesus guy needs to cut his hair and stop hanging out with that prostitute, or people will begin to talk).
 
2013-03-18 08:13:12 PM  

whipbambucket: watched it last night... didn't make the connection until i saw this on fark... so farking what... not the first time, nor will it be the last that something like this has been done...

/who's the manufactured rage crowd again?


I don't know.  I don't see a lot of rage in this thread.  Amusement, mostly.

I think the whole thing's ridiculous, myself.
 
2013-03-18 08:16:52 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Always some white boy gotta invoke the holy books. Bust this: Those books are about how the white man keeps the brother man down, even long ago and far, far away. Check this shiat: You got cracker carpenter Jesus, Nazi poster boy, blond hair, blue eyes. And then you got Satan, the blackest brother in the world, Nubian demon!

What's a Nubian?

Shut the fark up! Now... Satan, he's a rebellious brother, y'know, down with the free will and all that good shiat. Then this cracker, Jesus, gets his hands on a crown of thorns and the boy decides he's gonna run the farkin' universe; gets a whole clan of whites. And they together go and bust up Satan's hood and throw him in a pit for a thousand years. Now what the fark do you call that?

The Book of Revelations?



They trying to tell us, deep inside we all want to be Democrats!
 
2013-03-18 08:19:50 PM  

arethereanybeernamesleft: Here's the thing--faith doesn't require proof.  Hell, not even scientific theory has been proven.  Once it is, we call it a law.  The law of gravity is a law because it has been proven.  The theory of relativity is still not proven, so it's still a theory.


I liked your first paragraph.  But you're in error here.  The theory of Relativity has been proven quite thoroughly.  And in terms of scientific rigor, a "theory" is more like what you think a "law" is.
 
2013-03-18 08:38:01 PM  

ciberido: Mad_Radhu: Always some white boy gotta invoke the holy books. Bust this: Those books are about how the white man keeps the brother man down, even long ago and far, far away. Check this shiat: You got cracker carpenter Jesus, Nazi poster boy, blond hair, blue eyes. And then you got Satan, the blackest brother in the world, Nubian demon!

What's a Nubian?

Shut the fark up! Now... Satan, he's a rebellious brother, y'know, down with the free will and all that good shiat. Then this cracker, Jesus, gets his hands on a crown of thorns and the boy decides he's gonna run the farkin' universe; gets a whole clan of whites. And they together go and bust up Satan's hood and throw him in a pit for a thousand years. Now what the fark do you call that?

The Book of Revelations?


They trying to tell us, deep inside we all want to be Democrats!


Well don't you?
 
2013-03-18 09:17:10 PM  
Fundies that are fans of this series are going to freak out since so many of them are Obama haters that think Obama is Muslim and have pointed out "Satan" in the series resembles Obama.

From the creators of the series: "[we] have nothing but respect and love our President, who is a fellow Christian. False statements such as these are just designed as a foolish distraction to try and discredit the beauty of the story of The Bible."

Whoops.
 
2013-03-18 09:41:29 PM  
The actor is Moroccan and has played other parts in biblical movies and TV shows over the years.
 
2013-03-18 09:42:52 PM  

dimossi: Fundies that are fans of this series are going to freak out since so many of them are Obama haters that think Obama is Muslim and have pointed out "Satan" in the series resembles Obama.

From the creators of the series: "[we] have nothing but respect and love our President, who is a fellow Christian. False statements such as these are just designed as a foolish distraction to try and discredit the beauty of the story of The Bible."

Whoops.


Yeah, so beautiful, all of the death and killing and God destroying everything that slightly annoys him and rape and incest and telling people to abandon and even kill their families to follow Jesus and how one day God will destroy all he created out of love and send most of humanity to unspeakable eternal torture.
 
2013-03-18 10:05:13 PM  

MaliFinn: FlashHarry: a twofer. he looks like obama, AND he's played by a muslim!

have they shown jesus yet? is he blonde?

Coincidentally enough...

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25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-18 10:15:33 PM  

give me doughnuts: Perhaps a source not related to an Abrahamic religious text?


I have been on fark long enough to know, that not answering the original question, and positing the question in the inverse as if it means something is no way to go through threads.

I'm not accusing you of this, but the fact that not one person offered anything even remotely considerable as definitive evidence was the answer I expected. "Oh, he must have been brown, because a lot of people there, at that time were brown." isn't really evidence. It is also kinda racist.
 
2013-03-18 10:19:24 PM  

FARK rebel soldier: ArkAngel: Looks more like a Romulan to me

[www.ridgenet.net image 430x432]


He was (is) one of the few reasons to catch Voyager.  Never disappoints, and an excellent portrayal of a Vulcan without any of the barely concealed contempt which crept into movie/post-TNG versions of Vulcans.
 
2013-03-18 10:24:51 PM  

s2s2s2: MyKingdomForYourHorse: this most recent Pope is going to be the last pope because of <insert crazy theory here>

Global Climate Change?


Hell I don't know, take your pick. Listening to my family recently is like crazy tin foil conspiracy mad libs recently.
 
2013-03-18 10:35:49 PM  

s2s2s2: give me doughnuts: Perhaps a source not related to an Abrahamic religious text?

I have been on fark long enough to know, that not answering the original question, and positing the question in the inverse as if it means something is no way to go through threads.

I'm not accusing you of this, but the fact that not one person offered anything even remotely considerable as definitive evidence was the answer I expected. "Oh, he must have been brown, because a lot of people there, at that time were brown." isn't really evidence. It is also kinda racist.


How is it racist? When everyone in a geographical area is the same skin tone because of genetics and evolution, it's not racist to say that everyone there would be that skin tone (is it racist to say that all Irish are pale? All Japanese have dark hair? You might as well consider it racist to say that all tigers have stripes). On the other hand, there are some unfortunate implications to declare that the son of God looks like European perfection, especially when he's saving the Middle Easterners from their sins.

Also, Jesus has been portrayed as whatever race has made the visual representation of him: Russian in Russia, Chinese in China, Indian in India. Maybe one of those is what Jesus looked like. Maybe he rapidly flashed between looking like every race on Earth. Maybe he was a one-eyed one-horned flying purple people eater. The Bible never said what he looked like. Wishful thinking and projecting says Jesus was European perfection, real life and science says he looked like the other inhabitants of the region.
 
2013-03-18 10:59:56 PM  

cygnusx13: Historically significant, yes. Historically factual, no.

Melodramas are best left for Lifetime, mmkay.


If you want to remain ignorant of what in the Bible because religion makes you feel icky then that's your choice but it's worth knowing.  It's shaped world culture and events for thousands of years.  I think there is definitely intellectual value in knowing what's in it whether it's true or not in the same way that I think Shakespeare has historical significance.  Did the story of Hamlet really happen?  Of course not.  But is it worth knowing?  Certainly.  It's historically significant in that you're learning the "history" of Shakespeare.  Even though they are just "skimming" over the Bible I'm learning all kinds of interesting things from it.  From the story of Abraham to The Passion you can't deny that it provides a tremendous insight into human history and what has motivated western culture for centuries.
Do you feel ridiculous yet?
 
2013-03-18 11:09:23 PM  
"If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. If I had a father, he'd look like Satan."
 
2013-03-18 11:31:43 PM  
mekki:

He really had that pretty face but can make your skin crawl Lucifer thing down pat. And he is probably my favorite Lucifer but Peter Stormare (Constantine) and Mark Pellegrino (Supernatural) both hold a special place in my Awesome Pop culture Lucifers list.

I just fast-forwarded Constantine to re-watch Stormare's performance. He's on the screen for less than 10 minutes, but damned if he doesn't make entire the movie worth watching.
Tilda Swinton didn't do badly either...

/ Milton's Satan is the Best Satan.
 
2013-03-18 11:38:18 PM  

ExpressPork: cygnusx13: Historically significant, yes. Historically factual, no.

Melodramas are best left for Lifetime, mmkay.

If you want to remain ignorant of what in the Bible because religion makes you feel icky then that's your choice but it's worth knowing.  It's shaped world culture and events for thousands of years.  I think there is definitely intellectual value in knowing what's in it whether it's true or not in the same way that I think Shakespeare has historical significance.  Did the story of Hamlet really happen?  Of course not.  But is it worth knowing?  Certainly.  It's historically significant in that you're learning the "history" of Shakespeare.  Even though they are just "skimming" over the Bible I'm learning all kinds of interesting things from it.  From the story of Abraham to The Passion you can't deny that it provides a tremendous insight into human history and what has motivated western culture for centuries.
Do you feel ridiculous yet?


Not at all. I'm not the one who thinks that rivers turning to blood is "history" or Zombie Jesus is history.

Again, and more clearly for those who choose not to see, a HISTORY channel miniseries on the impact of the Bible on world history: yes. A HISTORY channel miniseries illustrating the fables in the bible: no.
 
2013-03-19 12:00:50 AM  
well if the shoe fits....
 
2013-03-19 12:11:15 AM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: How is it racist?


You are right. Call it "skin-tonist". There was cultural(aka, skin tone, wah-wah) diversity in that area 2000 years ago. The place was occupied by Romans. Maybe it was a convenient way to cover a rape? Might even explain why republicans think of rape babies as precious gifts.
 
2013-03-19 12:40:56 AM  

asmodeusazarak: NuttierThanEver: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]

Best Satan ever

/If you disagree he'll lay you out and fill your mouth with your mother's feces

quoted for truth.  I generally see myself as a bad *shut your mouth* tough guy, but when I saw this movie I remember thinking that if that happened to me I'd pull up a chair and say "okay what did you want to talk about...the weather...you name it!"


I don't get out much.  What movie is this from?
 
2013-03-19 12:42:42 AM  
Gawd, I'm happy I cancelled cable.
 
2013-03-19 04:59:29 AM  

XD.45:

asmodeusazarak: NuttierThanEver: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]

Best Satan ever

/If you disagree he'll lay you out and fill your mouth with your mother's feces

quoted for truth.  I generally see myself as a bad *shut your mouth* tough guy, but when I saw this movie I remember thinking that if that happened to me I'd pull up a chair and say "okay what did you want to talk about...the weather...you name it!"

I don't get out much.  What movie is this from?

1995's The Prophesy...  Most of the scare is about Christopher Walken as creepy Gabriel, but Viggo Mortensen's Satan is also magnificent.
 
2013-03-19 06:57:33 AM  

Mugato: ciberido: Mad_Radhu: Always some white boy gotta invoke the holy books. Bust this: Those books are about how the white man keeps the brother man down, even long ago and far, far away. Check this shiat: You got cracker carpenter Jesus, Nazi poster boy, blond hair, blue eyes. And then you got Satan, the blackest brother in the world, Nubian demon!

What's a Nubian?

Shut the fark up! Now... Satan, he's a rebellious brother, y'know, down with the free will and all that good shiat. Then this cracker, Jesus, gets his hands on a crown of thorns and the boy decides he's gonna run the farkin' universe; gets a whole clan of whites. And they together go and bust up Satan's hood and throw him in a pit for a thousand years. Now what the fark do you call that?

The Book of Revelations?


They trying to tell us, deep inside we all want to be Democrats!

Well don't you?



Conservative rage!   Conservative rage!  I'll kill any liberal folks I lay my motherloving eyes on!
 
2013-03-19 07:03:09 AM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Also, Jesus has been portrayed as whatever race has made the visual representation of him: Russian in Russia, Chinese in China, Indian in India. Maybe one of those is what Jesus looked like. Maybe he rapidly flashed between looking like every race on Earth. Maybe he was a one-eyed one-horned flying purple people eater. The Bible never said what he looked like. Wishful thinking and projecting says Jesus was European perfection, real life and science says he looked like the other inhabitants of the region.


Revelation 1:13-16 describes Jesus' appearance in heaven, but it includes things like swords coming out of his mouth, so I'm not sure it counts towards a description of what he looked like while walking around on Earth.
 
2013-03-19 07:26:46 AM  
So. The Old Testament Angels were all Dark Warriors. Then Mary comes along and her Angel is blonde.
 
2013-03-19 09:29:14 AM  
Many cultures speak of light skinned, bearded, blonde dudes that came and helped them at various times.

Why then is it so shocking that people assume Jesus is one of them?
 
2013-03-19 11:22:12 AM  
Don't care, not watching the show
thought the dude looked good and creepy
you nutters can take your culture off victimhood somewhere else
manufacturing an incident just isn't something I'm interested in reading about on a fark thread
 
2013-03-19 12:41:28 PM  
THIS,
This is why I love you mankind...

You,
 the final endevor of a tired God....

Just crack me the HELL UP !

COUGH,
sorry, I was channeling president Luci there for a moment.
feeling much better now.
 
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