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2013-03-18 02:44:28 PM
Don't you know there ain't no Devil that's just God when He's drunk. . .
 
2013-03-18 02:46:56 PM
It just goes to show that you shouldn't expect quality results when you're getting your religion from the same folks that brought us Honey Boo-Boo.
 
2013-03-18 02:47:20 PM
Should have cast John Waters.
 
2013-03-18 02:47:56 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: So you still believe that a white Nordic European man would be born in the Middle East 2,000 years ago because a book says he was the son of God, and because he's the son of God of course he's going to look like a clean white superior European?


When you have god in the equation, some guy being white instead of brown is not the weirdest thing you are believing by a long way...
 
2013-03-18 02:53:51 PM

pciszek: BunkoSquad: FlashHarry: have they shown jesus yet? is he blonde?

No, but he is of course a handsome European.

They could have done worse that a Portuguese Jesus, I suppose.

crossfitkyle.com

The Jesus.

Don't f*ck with him.
 
2013-03-18 02:53:55 PM
Does anyone else find it strange that people are debating the historical inaccuracies of characters from a series about a fictional book?

It's like arguing about how wide the river Styx is.


/Oh, and all good Xians know that black skin = devil, and Obama = spawn of Satan, so why the fuss?
 
2013-03-18 02:54:45 PM

Latinwolf: Now it's a nine year old instead of ten?


I`m sure there was both, no need to get angsty...

angry bunny: Is the argument essentially that this is rascist because we can't tell two black people apart?


No, it`s the portraying of ultimate evil as black which is racist, and the kicker is he looks a bit like obama.

Your argument would work if they were using this guy who looks nothing like obama yet is also black.
blog.commarts.wisc.edu
you sound racist.
 
2013-03-18 02:56:14 PM
Jesus was a black man, they said.

Maybe Satan is, too?

INSENSITIVE BLASPHEMIC RACIST COMMENT
 
2013-03-18 02:56:27 PM

dready zim: Keizer_Ghidorah: So you still believe that a white Nordic European man would be born in the Middle East 2,000 years ago because a book says he was the son of God, and because he's the son of God of course he's going to look like a clean white superior European?

When you have god in the equation, some guy being white instead of brown is not the weirdest thing you are believing by a long way...



Bullshiat.  Only the very weak minded and truly stupid are atheists.  If we view scientific data in purely allegorical terms it supports a literal interpretation of the Holy Scriptures.  How can you argue with those facts is beyond me.
 
2013-03-18 03:02:59 PM
Interesting that American rightwingers write Israel a blank check, but they don't want Jesus to look Jewish.
 
2013-03-18 03:03:48 PM
"SATAN is *NEAR*!!!!!!"

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2013-03-18 03:03:52 PM

lordaction: Bullshiat. Only the very weak minded and truly stupid are atheists. If we view scientific data in purely allegorical terms it supports a literal interpretation of the Holy Scriptures. How can you argue with those facts is beyond me.


i54.tinypic.com

Thanks! I needed a good laugh on a Monday.
 
2013-03-18 03:06:00 PM

FlashHarry: s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?

the fact that, if he existed at all, he was born in the middle east 2000 years ago. and if you were born in the middle east 2000 years ago, it was almost certain that you were brown.


Mohammed was described as white.  Why not Jebus?

BTW, am I the only complete atheist that is thoroughly enjoying this series?  It's the awesome.  (like Vikings too)
 
2013-03-18 03:10:40 PM

Latinwolf: give me doughnuts:   I_C_Weener: Colour_out_of_Space: The only thing bible-related that the "History" Channel should be showing is a documentary on how the Council of Trent cherry-picked the documents that best served them politically and bundled them together as an anthology.
That and the Council or Nicea would be nice.  Or some of the weirder episodes in the Vatican over the years.
But the Bible is not one coherent story.  It really has many different themes and stories.  Its not like different chapters of The Hobbit.  Its more like The Hobbit, Romeo and Juliet, then The Perfect Storm, then The Time Machine.  No coherence.
A Quran story would be nice. I'd like to see someone make some sense of it. And a true biography of Mohamed would be nice.  His story is only told in the broadest of strokes but a warrior prophet rising to power out of the desert tribes is Tales of Arabian Nights worthy.

I'm not sure the whole "banging a 9-year-old episode" would make it past the censors.
Also, any attempt to present an accurate biography of Mohammad (or even one based solely on reliable hadith) would be met with riots, firebombing, regular bombings, murders, threats, etc., in dozens of countries.

Now it's a nine year old instead of ten?  Anyhow does it actually mention this in the quran or are there other soruces other than people looking to bash Islam?   I do however agree with the last part of the sentence.  Only a country that had no Muslims living in it at all would consider doing a program like this.


It's all over Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari, and other hadiths, in Aisha's own words, or those of witnesses.
 
2013-03-18 03:10:50 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: FlashHarry: s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?

the fact that, if he existed at all, he was born in the middle east 2000 years ago. and if you were born in the middle east 2000 years ago, it was almost certain that you were brown.

Mohammed was described as white.



LOL Wut?

commieblaster.com

BTW, am I the only complete atheist that is thoroughly enjoying this series?  It's the awesome.  (like Vikings too)


Not an atheist but, yeah, haven't laughed this hard in a long time. When you grow up with Pentacostals in the family, you either become a hard-core atheist (my sister) or you just don't take it so seriously (my brother and me).
 
2013-03-18 03:12:37 PM
blog.commarts.wisc.edu

Where my white devils at?

*Who can hate that adorable cat-who-swallowed-the-canary punem?
 
2013-03-18 03:12:45 PM
dready zim:

Your argument would work if they were using this guy who looks nothing like obama yet is also black.
[blog.commarts.wisc.edu image 350x448]


That would be a travesty.  Everyone knows that  Gary Coleman was good, pure, and noble; Emmanuel Lewis was the evil one.
 
2013-03-18 03:20:03 PM

OldManDownDRoad: Big_Fat_Liar: FlashHarry: s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?

the fact that, if he existed at all, he was born in the middle east 2000 years ago. and if you were born in the middle east 2000 years ago, it was almost certain that you were brown.

Mohammed was described as white.


LOL Wut?

[commieblaster.com image 183x215]

BTW, am I the only complete atheist that is thoroughly enjoying this series?  It's the awesome.  (like Vikings too)

Not an atheist but, yeah, haven't laughed this hard in a long time. When you grow up with Pentacostals in the family, you either become a hard-core atheist (my sister) or you just don't take it so seriously (my brother and me).


Yup. Big Mo was a red-head.
 
2013-03-18 03:20:14 PM

Last Man on Earth: Ancient Aliens. It is/was (is it still on?) a show on History Channel devoted to the idea that the pyramids/those South American animal patterns on the ground/similar Brown People Architectural And Design Achievements (seriously, you never see these claims about European construction) are evidence that aliens came to our planet at some point in the past and are really responsible for these structures.


s'funny, I recall those claims about Stonehenge all the goddamn time.

Or those mountain carvings in Scotland.
 
2013-03-18 03:25:28 PM
I gotta download this series and mine it for meme-worthy screencaps. :-)

Damn, the top torrent has over 2100 seeds!  Mary must be nude in that one..
 
2013-03-18 03:27:04 PM

This text is now purple: Last Man on Earth: Ancient Aliens. It is/was (is it still on?) a show on History Channel devoted to the idea that the pyramids/those South American animal patterns on the ground/similar Brown People Architectural And Design Achievements (seriously, you never see these claims about European construction) are evidence that aliens came to our planet at some point in the past and are really responsible for these structures.

s'funny, I recall those claims about Stonehenge all the goddamn time.

Or those mountain carvings in Scotland.


Huh, seriously?  I stand corrected.  I'd never heard the claims applied to either of those.
 
2013-03-18 03:28:38 PM

dready zim: Your argument would work if they were using this guy who looks nothing like obama yet is also black.


But he's dead.
 
2013-03-18 03:28:58 PM

whipbambucket: /who's the manufactured rage crowd again?


There's a corner on that market??
 
2013-03-18 03:34:43 PM

FloydA: dready zim:

Your argument would work if they were using this guy who looks nothing like obama yet is also black.
[blog.commarts.wisc.edu image 350x448]

That would be a travesty.  Everyone knows that  Gary Coleman was good, pure, and noble; Emmanuel Lewis was the evil one.


And Webster, yeah, Emmanuel Lewis, 'cause he's the anti-Christ.  The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire...
 
2013-03-18 03:35:52 PM
I couldn't get past the Scottish Noah in the first 5 minutes. Dreadful.
 
2013-03-18 03:36:33 PM

Last Man on Earth: This text is now purple: Last Man on Earth: Ancient Aliens. It is/was (is it still on?) a show on History Channel devoted to the idea that the pyramids/those South American animal patterns on the ground/similar Brown People Architectural And Design Achievements (seriously, you never see these claims about European construction) are evidence that aliens came to our planet at some point in the past and are really responsible for these structures.

s'funny, I recall those claims about Stonehenge all the goddamn time.

Or those mountain carvings in Scotland.

Huh, seriously?  I stand corrected.  I'd never heard the claims applied to either of those.


Oh, yes.  And there are stone formations across Europe that they've talked about.  And the Founding Fathers.  And the Third Reich.  And Bigfoot.

No, really.  Bigfoot.

/I love that cheesy show.
 
2013-03-18 03:40:36 PM

BolshyGreatYarblocks: Interesting that American rightwingers write Israel a blank check, but they don't want Jesus to look Jewish.


Like whores, we pay them to go away

Keizer_Ghidorah: Seriously. It says the Beast has seven heads and ten crowns. Where does it wear the three extra crowns? And why seven heads? One for each day of the week?


Depends on who's theory of who wrote you want to believe. Traditionalists think it was written by John the Apostle during a time where Christians weren't exactly the most popular people on the planet and writing something that would predict the downfall of Kings, Governments, etc.. was a good way to get yourself on the business end of a rope, axe, cross, or all three. So they think it was written allegorically so as to avoid possible retribution for writing it.

Modernists think it was actually written by three people, because of the three distinct writing styles and on technical point they have merit in that theory since it wasn't even accepted into canon until almost 400 AD. In this regard the text was still allegorical however it was the forward interpretation of previous texts, writings, oral tradition, etc.. that influenced it over those three writings.

I tend to agree with the latter, that the text was originally written allegorical and spoke of current events, governments, kings, queens, etc... and was done to avoid possible punishment. This text was then taken and rewritten into what we have today, which attempts to make it vague enough so as to allow interpretations like that crazy Left Behind series, or even now running the gambit amongst the evangelical crowd that this most recent Pope is going to be the last pope because of <insert crazy theory here>

Or you could just accept like many of us here, its complete and utter bull shiat.
 
2013-03-18 03:54:21 PM
I don't think this show has much appeal outside the states. Europe in particular is certain to hate it.
 
2013-03-18 04:02:00 PM
...well, all devils do look alike.
 
2013-03-18 04:15:05 PM

OldManDownDRoad: Big_Fat_Liar: FlashHarry: s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?

the fact that, if he existed at all, he was born in the middle east 2000 years ago. and if you were born in the middle east 2000 years ago, it was almost certain that you were brown.

Mohammed was described as white.


LOL Wut?

[commieblaster.com image 183x215]

BTW, am I the only complete atheist that is thoroughly enjoying this series?  It's the awesome.  (like Vikings too)

Not an atheist but, yeah, haven't laughed this hard in a long time. When you grow up with Pentacostals in the family, you either become a hard-core atheist (my sister) or you just don't take it so seriously (my brother and me).



Yes, white.  http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Muhammad's_Whit e _Complexion

or Google "mohammed was white".
I found this site amusing - true or not....whatever, it's all make believe anyway:

http://www.islamreview.com/articles/neitherblacknorafrican.shtml

I'm super cereal about The Bible.  If you haven't watched the Bible series so far, give it a chance.   Atheists ought to love it even more than Christians.  It does nothing to hide the cruelty and violence of religious peoples of the day.  The one problem I'm having is the commercials aren't long enough to go outside for a cigarette and a beer, so when I come back in, fifty years may have passed in the story-telling.
 
2013-03-18 04:16:37 PM

vpb: [in2eastafrica.net image 634x380]


Kinda reminds me of Diablo in human form in the cutscenes of Diablo II

/One of the few things Blizzard has done really well came from that game - Tyrial's wings. They were awesome.
 
2013-03-18 04:23:26 PM
In this thread a bunch of leftist racists claim all black people look alike. News at 11.
 
2013-03-18 04:40:42 PM
This Shark Was Jumped when Die Hard decided that Terrorists couldn't be Muslim because it would be racist and instead treated us to variations on the theme of "improbable right wing terrorists who are white"

Didnt "sum of all fears" remove the Muslims also?

Anyway the point is this Obama-Satan thing breaks a long standing Hollywood tradition of making the white guy the bad guy. Which makes this a Civil Rights triumph for the oppressed white actors who are forced to be the bad guy guild.
 
2013-03-18 04:49:02 PM

naughtyrev: PunGent: cman: Kinda looks like a mixture of Obama, Idid Amin, and that heavily disfigured character Tom Cruise plays in Minority Report

Um, you might be thinking of a different Cruise flick.

Vanilla Sky, maybe?

No, remember when he gave himself that injection to make his face saggy? That was Minority Report.


You're right, I'd completely forgotten that bit.
 
2013-03-18 04:50:32 PM

clowncar on fire: PunGent: cman: Kinda looks like a mixture of Obama, Idid Amin, and that heavily disfigured character Tom Cruise plays in Minority Report

Um, you might be thinking of a different Cruise flick.

Vanilla Sky, maybe?

He's right- Minority Report.  He uses a muscle relaxant to disquise his face when he breaks back into the police station- looks very un-Cruise like.  Could not find the still from the movie.


Yep, I remember now, pretty cool effect.
 
2013-03-18 04:53:15 PM

lordaction: dready zim: Keizer_Ghidorah: So you still believe that a white Nordic European man would be born in the Middle East 2,000 years ago because a book says he was the son of God, and because he's the son of God of course he's going to look like a clean white superior European?

When you have god in the equation, some guy being white instead of brown is not the weirdest thing you are believing by a long way...


Bullshiat.  Only the very weak minded and truly stupid are atheists.  If we view scientific data in purely allegorical terms it supports a literal interpretation of the Holy Scriptures.  How can you argue with those facts is beyond me.


OK, you have GOT to be trolling.  I'll give you an 8.5 for dramatic juxtaposition, though; well done.

(sounds more polite than "oxymoron"...)
 
2013-03-18 04:54:11 PM
dready zim: Keizer_Ghidorah: So you still believe that a white Nordic European man would be born in the Middle East 2,000 years ago because a book says he was the son of God, and because he's the son of God of course he's going to look like a clean white superior European?

When you have god in the equation, some guy being white instead of brown is not the weirdest thing you are believing by a long way...


Bullshiat. Only the very weak minded and truly stupid are atheists. If we view scientific data in purely allegorical terms it supports a literal interpretation of the Holy Scriptures. How can you argue with those facts is beyond me.


Trolling works better when you don't try that hard...
 
2013-03-18 04:54:49 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?


Thiiiiiiiis.
 
2013-03-18 04:56:29 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?


Because the "History" Channel has sucked ass for a decade now.

I like to tease my wife (PhD, Medieval History) by clicking on it, and saying "Look, hon! ufos and angels! It's HISTORY...just like you studied!"

She either slugs me or moans :)
 
2013-03-18 04:59:56 PM

PunGent: lordaction: dready zim: Keizer_Ghidorah: So you still believe that a white Nordic European man would be born in the Middle East 2,000 years ago because a book says he was the son of God, and because he's the son of God of course he's going to look like a clean white superior European?

When you have god in the equation, some guy being white instead of brown is not the weirdest thing you are believing by a long way...


Bullshiat.  Only the very weak minded and truly stupid are atheists.  If we view scientific data in purely allegorical terms it supports a literal interpretation of the Holy Scriptures.  How can you argue with those facts is beyond me.

OK, you have GOT to be trolling.  I'll give you an 8.5 for dramatic juxtaposition, though; well done.

(sounds more polite than "oxymoron"...)


Course it was a troll. `If we view scientific data in purely allegorical terms`...
 
2013-03-18 05:00:50 PM
BEST.  CASTING.  EVAR!
 
2013-03-18 05:05:56 PM

s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown real?


FTFY.
 
2013-03-18 05:05:57 PM
Ah Hollywood racism, they portray Jesus as white and Satan as black, I wonder why?
 
2013-03-18 05:09:32 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Last Man on Earth: The person who should really get a chance to play Satan at some point is Kevin Spacey.  Usual Suspects, House of Cards, the only good part of Superman Returns...  The man is so insanely good at playing affable, intelligent, and disguised monsters that he'd probably be absolutely amazing at playing the ultimate corruptor.

This comment warrants further discussion

house of cards farking ruled


Yes, yes it did.  And in a twist, it's actually better than the BBC original it rips off...which isn't bad on its own, btw.
 
2013-03-18 05:10:39 PM
If God created man in his own image, and they were African, wouldn't he make the angels look that way too?  Lucifer was an angel to start.

I don't really give a shiat, and I think this is a PR stunt on network's part.  Just playing Network Executive's advocate.
 
2013-03-18 05:17:05 PM

Latinwolf: give me doughnuts:   I_C_Weener: Colour_out_of_Space: The only thing bible-related that the "History" Channel should be showing is a documentary on how the Council of Trent cherry-picked the documents that best served them politically and bundled them together as an anthology.
That and the Council or Nicea would be nice.  Or some of the weirder episodes in the Vatican over the years.
But the Bible is not one coherent story.  It really has many different themes and stories.  Its not like different chapters of The Hobbit.  Its more like The Hobbit, Romeo and Juliet, then The Perfect Storm, then The Time Machine.  No coherence.
A Quran story would be nice. I'd like to see someone make some sense of it. And a true biography of Mohamed would be nice.  His story is only told in the broadest of strokes but a warrior prophet rising to power out of the desert tribes is Tales of Arabian Nights worthy.

I'm not sure the whole "banging a 9-year-old episode" would make it past the censors.
Also, any attempt to present an accurate biography of Mohammad (or even one based solely on reliable hadith) would be met with riots, firebombing, regular bombings, murders, threats, etc., in dozens of countries.

Now it's a nine year old instead of ten?  Anyhow does it actually mention this in the quran or are there other soruces other than people looking to bash Islam?   I do however agree with the last part of the sentence.  Only a country that had no Muslims living in it at all would consider doing a program like this.


Nine.  First thing off Google:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm

And, for bonus points, Muslims use it to kill secular laws with higher ages of consent.  Google Yemen, for example.

Makes the Vatican look like a pro-child organization.
 
2013-03-18 05:19:28 PM

axztx: I couldn't get past the Scottish Noah in the first 5 minutes. Dreadful.


Groundskeeper Willy would make a hilarious Noah.
 
2013-03-18 05:24:43 PM
So the spin by Burnett is that the same actor "Mohamen Mehdi Ouazanni " (muslim name??) has been used before to portray satan on other shows.  I would be curious to see some proof to back that up and what he actually looked like when he was presenting himself as such.

Good job on the PR stunt History Channel!
 
2013-03-18 05:33:46 PM

cygnusx13: Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?

Thiiiiiiiis.


Ah yes, nothing at all of historical relevance in the BIBLE.

You don't have to be religious to understand the significance and enormous impact that one book has had on so much of our modern world.  I'm not religious but I'm also not against knowledge.

I agree with you 100% when it comes to shows on History about bigfoot or whatever but I'm pretty sure the Bible qualifies as being pretty farking historically significant.
 
2013-03-18 05:36:17 PM

This text is now purple: jso2897: This text is now purple: jso2897: s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?

What real evidence is there that any one such person even existed?

Why don't you define "real" for us, Scottie?

Why don't you define it for yourself, Captain?

Because you're clearly setting up a real Scotsman argument, and I want to know where you placed the goal posts before we begin?


Glasgow? Aberdeen? Fook, I dunno!
 
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