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2013-03-18 01:31:47 PM

I_C_Weener: Colour_out_of_Space: The only thing bible-related that the "History" Channel should be showing is a documentary on how the Council of Trent cherry-picked the documents that best served them politically and bundled them together as an anthology.

That and the Council or Nicea would be nice.  Or some of the weirder episodes in the Vatican over the years.

But the Bible is not one coherent story.  It really has many different themes and stories.  Its not like different chapters of The Hobbit.  Its more like The Hobbit, Romeo and Juliet, then The Perfect Storm, then The Time Machine.  No coherence.

A Quran story would be nice. I'd like to see someone make some sense of it. And a true biography of Mohamed would be nice.  His story is only told in the broadest of strokes but a warrior prophet rising to power out of the desert tribes is Tales of Arabian Nights worthy.



I'm not sure the whole "banging a 9-year-old episode" would make it past the censors.

Also, any attempt to present an accurate biography of Mohammad (or even one based solely on reliable hadith) would be met with riots, firebombing, regular bombings, murders, threats, etc., in dozens of countries.
 
2013-03-18 01:32:22 PM

arethereanybeernamesleft: Speaker2Animals: Care to answer the other question posed to you, professor? Any "real" evidence of his existence as religions portray him? Difficulty: bible =/= real.

Ahhhh, the common Christopher Hitchens fan.

Look--betting on or challenging someone to 'prove' the existence of God is a sucker's bet.  They can't do it.  You know they can't.  I know they can't.  If they're being honest, they know they can't.  But scornful disdain for a person's faith, such as that you're exhibiting, makes you a shiatty person, not them.  I'll never understand why anyone thinks Hitchens was smart.  Arguing about evidence where there is none is the most simple-minded schtick there is.  At least he made money off of it, his followers are just dolts.

Here's the thing--faith doesn't require proof.  Hell, not even scientific theory has been proven.  Once it is, we call it a law.  The law of gravity is a law because it has been proven.  The theory of relativity is still not proven, so it's still a theory.   Leave proof of God to theologians, and proof of relativity to physicists.  But don't be surprised when someone believes in something that can't be proven.

Get over yourself.


Now I'm even more convinced that there isn't a god
 
2013-03-18 01:35:05 PM

jenlen: "Ow, my balls!" is on the horizon, folks, just you wait. Welcome to the world of Idiocracy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgYHYt8rI8s


Theyve got ow my balls on tv now. It is called tosh.0
 
2013-03-18 01:35:22 PM

Nabb1: The actor in question:


I was going to say, highly unlikely he was cast to look like Obama, because he wouldn't have the makeup on.
 
2013-03-18 01:35:58 PM
I'm thinking that all you people who say "Can't see it" need to get their eyes checked.
 
2013-03-18 01:37:58 PM
Another under-appreciated Satan:

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-18 01:49:22 PM

Stephen_Falken: USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST


what'd he say?
Ban him all you want, but the post should be kept up as a point.

/free speech and such
//does it apply or not, the world may never know
///three licks, by the way
 
2013-03-18 01:50:11 PM

Amish Tech Support: Not only does he look like this. He has the map.


Too bad he has no understanding of digital watches.
 
2013-03-18 01:52:31 PM
The Bible is absolute shiat. It's trite and overwrought at the same time. And everyone seems to think they need to chew the scenery to be -=DRAMATIC=-!

It's the exact opposite from Vikings.
 
2013-03-18 01:53:45 PM
They know their target audience...deeply religious people who watch Ancient Aliens.
 
2013-03-18 01:54:19 PM

NutWrench: Nabb1: WorldCitizen: Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?

This is why I dropped cable.

Because one channel ran a show you don't like? That'll show 'em.

Well, if you don't appreciate The Bible on the HISTORY CHANNEL, you can always avail yourself to their many other fine, historical offerings, like Big Shrimpin', Cajun Pawn Stars, American Pickers, Hairy Bikers (I am NOT making this up!), UFO hunters, Shark Wranglers, Swamp People or Full Metal Jousting. If this is the best they can do, I'd rather ditch cable completely and read a book.


blog.zap2it.com

upload.wikimedia.org
upload.wikimedia.org

We have finally arrived at the Age of Mediocrity.
 
2013-03-18 01:56:11 PM
Rush Limbaugh mentioned it earlier, and he was giddy as a schoolgirl about it.
 
2013-03-18 02:01:46 PM
Curse of Ham

Mmmm... ham
 
2013-03-18 02:04:30 PM

Colour_out_of_Space: The only thing bible-related that the "History" Channel should be showing is a documentary on how the Council of Trent cherry-picked the documents that best served them politically and bundled them together as an anthology.


Except that would be the wrong Council, if you are referring to the council where they decided what books were in and what books were out to compile a uniform Bible for Christendom.  Hell, that would be the wrong millennium.  But, I see your point.
 
2013-03-18 02:05:27 PM

Nabb1: WorldCitizen: Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?

This is why I dropped cable.

Because one channel ran a show you don't like? That'll show 'em.


That's right, you fight the good fight, protect those cable operators and those networks, because of all the really really good things they have done for you over the years.

Also, you are brainwashed.  Did you know that?
 
2013-03-18 02:06:20 PM

Speaker2Animals: Care to answer the other question posed to you, professor?


No. I asked a question, I got the answer to the question I wanted an answer to, but knew better than to ask.

Welcome to Fark, indeed.
 
2013-03-18 02:09:24 PM

Kahabut: Nabb1: WorldCitizen: Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?

This is why I dropped cable.

Because one channel ran a show you don't like? That'll show 'em.

That's right, you fight the good fight, protect those cable operators and those networks, because of all the really really good things they have done for you over the years.

Also, you are brainwashed.  Did you know that?


Thanks for cluing me in.  I give not a single f*ck for cable operators or networks.  I have DirectTV.  The only reason I have that is because they have Extra Innings, and I watch a metric shiat-ton of baseball.  If you don't watch TV and don't watch TV, that's fine by me.
 
2013-03-18 02:10:08 PM

jso2897: This text is now purple: jso2897: s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?

What real evidence is there that any one such person even existed?

Why don't you define "real" for us, Scottie?

Why don't you define it for yourself, Captain?


Since I was the one that actually used the word "real evidence", I mean definitive. I don't what color his skin was, or if he existed at all.
 
2013-03-18 02:11:22 PM
*words
don't *know if...
 
2013-03-18 02:11:45 PM

s2s2s2: Speaker2Animals: Care to answer the other question posed to you, professor?

No. I asked a question, I got the answer to the question I wanted an answer to, but knew better than to ask.

Welcome to Fark, indeed.


So you still believe that a white Nordic European man would be born in the Middle East 2,000 years ago because a book says he was the son of God, and because he's the son of God of course he's going to look like a clean white superior European?
 
2013-03-18 02:12:01 PM

s2s2s2: I got the answer to the question I wanted an answer to, but knew better than to ask.


And yet, you did anyway.

So, I'll post what I considered posting when I read your "question":

"Do you ever, after drafting one of your witty, controversial posts ever pause before clicking the "add comment" button and ask yourself "Is this really worth posting"?"

I daresay, if you did, you be posting a helluva lot less.

NTTAWWT
 
2013-03-18 02:12:28 PM
FlashHarry:  s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?
what evidence is there that he was white?


Especially since he was supposed to have been born in an area where most people had brown complexions, not white. And can anyone shown me where in the bible does it actually claim he has a white complexion since the people making this claim often use that book as their point of reference?
 
2013-03-18 02:14:38 PM
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it's true this guy playing the devil doesn't really look that much like Obama, but he does look a bit like the 'evil Obama' pics that circulate among the fundie "Obama is a demon" crowds.
So a picture photoshopped to make Obama look like the devil happens to look like an actor dressed up to play the devil on a tv show.
How the hell does that happen...
both were intended to portray Obama as the devil?
 
makes no difference to me. This show and that actor doesn't amount to anything outrage worthy.
I'm not even outraged by the fact that there are so many fundie nutjobs who think Obama is actually a minion of satan. I didn't expect much from fundie nutjobs in the first place. Same goes for the channel that brought us this guy


Okay I keep seeing this guys pic on Fark but don't know the context, what program did he appear on?
 
2013-03-18 02:15:33 PM
For the fans of The Vikings, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awf45u6zrP0 (aka the Funniest 36 Seconds on the Internet)
 
2013-03-18 02:16:03 PM
Did they have decent shampoo in AD 10?  I bet Jesus had uncontrollable hair.  I mean, look he's hanging out all day at the beach.  Salt air is hell on hair.  And no conditioners.  I imagine he looked a lot like a Jewish Surfer version of Spicolli.
 
2013-03-18 02:17:59 PM
All black people look alike? Why isn't that the faux outrage of the day?
 
2013-03-18 02:20:38 PM
ferretman:  Wow....a lot of people 'projecting' in this thread. I think it goes to show who the real racists are on FARK.

Want to explain who those racists are and why you think they're racists.
 
2013-03-18 02:21:55 PM

ferretman: Wow....a lot of people 'projecting' in this thread. I think it goes to show who the real racists are on FARK.


A famous song (I believe by NWA) once had the words,

White man, white woman, white baby,
Black man, black woman, black baby,
Black man, white woman, black baby,
White woman, black man, black baby...

If we are going down that road lets join at this junction. Is Obama black in the first place? What does that even mean?
 
2013-03-18 02:22:38 PM

give me doughnuts: And I probably just got trolled. I could almost feel it when the hook got set.


It was when he said gravity was a law instead of a theory.

Trolls are like some religious people who think that as only god is perfect then to attempt to create something perfect is an affront to god so they put an error in everything they produce.
 
2013-03-18 02:23:57 PM

dready zim: A famous song (I believe by NWA) once had the words,


Public Enemy. Fear of a Black President Planet
 
2013-03-18 02:25:02 PM

FlashHarry: s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?

what evidence is there that he was white?


Remember that All In The Family episode where Archie had the black preacher over and they got into it over what color god is?
The black preacher starts in with : Well, we all know that Jesus was an Ethiopian...: " and Archie interrupts with "Yeah, Yeah, the Ethiopians say he werze Ethiopian, the Presberteerians say he werze Presberteerian, der Cathorlicks say he werze Cathorlick. . . "
 
2013-03-18 02:26:06 PM

Latinwolf: FlashHarry:  s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?
what evidence is there that he was white?

Especially since he was supposed to have been born in an area where most people had brown complexions, not white. And can anyone shown me where in the bible does it actually claim he has a white complexion since the people making this claim often use that book as their point of reference?


Revelations, chapter 1, but that whole thing reads like a reeeeeeally bad acid trip so I wouldn't count on any descriptions.
 
2013-03-18 02:26:41 PM

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it's true this guy playing the devil doesn't really look that much like Obama, but he does look a bit like the 'evil Obama' pics that circulate among the fundie "Obama is a demon" crowds.
So a picture photoshopped to make Obama look like the devil happens to look like an actor dressed up to play the devil on a tv show.
How the hell does that happen...
both were intended to portray Obama as the devil?
 
makes no difference to me. This show and that actor doesn't amount to anything outrage worthy.
I'm not even outraged by the fact that there are so many fundie nutjobs who think Obama is actually a minion of satan. I didn't expect much from fundie nutjobs in the first place. Same goes for the channel that brought us this guy

Okay I keep seeing this guys pic on Fark but don't know the context, what program did he appear on?


Ancient Aliens.  It is/was (is it still on?) a show on History Channel devoted to the idea that the pyramids/those South American animal patterns on the ground/similar Brown People Architectural And Design Achievements (seriously, you never see these claims about European construction) are evidence that aliens came to our planet at some point in the past and are really responsible for these structures.  Dude with the Londo Mollari hair is a professor they had on as a regular to suggest that they "don't necessarily prove that aliens visited, but they raise some 'interesting' questions."
 
2013-03-18 02:28:49 PM

Nabb1: Colour_out_of_Space: The only thing bible-related that the "History" Channel should be showing is a documentary on how the Council of Trent cherry-picked the documents that best served them politically and bundled them together as an anthology.

Except that would be the wrong Council, if you are referring to the council where they decided what books were in and what books were out to compile a uniform Bible for Christendom.  Hell, that would be the wrong millennium.  But, I see your point.


The Nicene Council? I didn't think they were the final (or at least most recent) say on biblical canon. I could be wrong- often am.
 
2013-03-18 02:29:22 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: So you still believe that a white Nordic European man would be born in the Middle East 2,000 years ago because a book says he was the son of God, and because he's the son of God of course he's going to look like a clean white superior European?


If I am believing in any of it, why not all of it?

Deucednuisance: "Do you ever, after drafting one of your witty, controversial posts ever pause before clicking the "add comment" button and ask yourself "Is this really worth posting"?"


Only when responding to you.
 
2013-03-18 02:30:29 PM

give me doughnuts: Latinwolf: FlashHarry:  s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?
what evidence is there that he was white?

Especially since he was supposed to have been born in an area where most people had brown complexions, not white. And can anyone shown me where in the bible does it actually claim he has a white complexion since the people making this claim often use that book as their point of reference?

Revelations, chapter 1, but that whole thing reads like a reeeeeeally bad acid trip so I wouldn't count on any descriptions.


Seriously. It says the Beast has seven heads and ten crowns. Where does it wear the three extra crowns? And why seven heads? One for each day of the week?

And why does a book about an all-loving, all-compassionate god have a book that describes how horribly this god will destroy the world and humanity? Christians really seem to have a hardon for the end of the world and the destruction of everything, especially all of those who they hate and despise.
 
2013-03-18 02:31:08 PM

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it's true this guy playing the devil doesn't really look that much like Obama, but he does look a bit like the 'evil Obama' pics that circulate among the fundie "Obama is a demon" crowds.
So a picture photoshopped to make Obama look like the devil happens to look like an actor dressed up to play the devil on a tv show.
How the hell does that happen...
both were intended to portray Obama as the devil?
 
makes no difference to me. This show and that actor doesn't amount to anything outrage worthy.
I'm not even outraged by the fact that there are so many fundie nutjobs who think Obama is actually a minion of satan. I didn't expect much from fundie nutjobs in the first place. Same goes for the channel that brought us this guy

Okay I keep seeing this guys pic on Fark but don't know the context, what program did he appear on?

Ancient Aliens.  It is/was (is it still on?) a show on History Channel devoted to the idea that the pyramids/those South American animal patterns on the ground/similar Brown People Architectural And Design Achievements (seriously, you never see these claims about European construction) are evidence that aliens came to our planet at some point in the past and are really responsible for these structures.  Dude with the Londo Mollari hair is a professor they had on as a regular to suggest that they "don't necessarily prove that aliens visited, but they raise some 'interesting' questions."


"Professor" Girogio Tsoukalos?

Giorgio's only degree is in sports information and communication from Ithaca College.
 
2013-03-18 02:32:05 PM

Colour_out_of_Space: Nabb1: Colour_out_of_Space: The only thing bible-related that the "History" Channel should be showing is a documentary on how the Council of Trent cherry-picked the documents that best served them politically and bundled them together as an anthology.

Except that would be the wrong Council, if you are referring to the council where they decided what books were in and what books were out to compile a uniform Bible for Christendom.  Hell, that would be the wrong millennium.  But, I see your point.

The Nicene Council? I didn't think they were the final (or at least most recent) say on biblical canon. I could be wrong- often am.


They voted on what books were in and what were out at the Council of Nicea.  Basically the books they chose compose the Bible as we know it.  The Council of Trent was an ecumenical council in response to the Protestant Reformation.  They addressed Church doctrine and the Holy Sacraments, but as far as I know, they didn't change the Bible's contents itself.
 
2013-03-18 02:32:20 PM

dready zim: ferretman: Wow....a lot of people 'projecting' in this thread. I think it goes to show who the real racists are on FARK.

A famous song (I believe by NWA) once had the words,

White man, white woman, white baby,
Black man, black woman, black baby,
Black man, white woman, black baby,
White woman, black man, black baby...

If we are going down that road lets join at this junction. Is Obama black in the first place? What does that even mean?


Public Enemy: Fear of a Black Planet.
 
2013-03-18 02:34:37 PM

H31N0US: dready zim: A famous song (I believe by NWA) once had the words,

Public Enemy. Fear of a Black President Planet


Ah, I was too slow again.
 
2013-03-18 02:35:39 PM
give me doughnuts:   I_C_Weener: Colour_out_of_Space: The only thing bible-related that the "History" Channel should be showing is a documentary on how the Council of Trent cherry-picked the documents that best served them politically and bundled them together as an anthology.
That and the Council or Nicea would be nice.  Or some of the weirder episodes in the Vatican over the years.
But the Bible is not one coherent story.  It really has many different themes and stories.  Its not like different chapters of The Hobbit.  Its more like The Hobbit, Romeo and Juliet, then The Perfect Storm, then The Time Machine.  No coherence.
A Quran story would be nice. I'd like to see someone make some sense of it. And a true biography of Mohamed would be nice.  His story is only told in the broadest of strokes but a warrior prophet rising to power out of the desert tribes is Tales of Arabian Nights worthy.

I'm not sure the whole "banging a 9-year-old episode" would make it past the censors.
Also, any attempt to present an accurate biography of Mohammad (or even one based solely on reliable hadith) would be met with riots, firebombing, regular bombings, murders, threats, etc., in dozens of countries.


Now it's a nine year old instead of ten?  Anyhow does it actually mention this in the quran or are there other soruces other than people looking to bash Islam?   I do however agree with the last part of the sentence.  Only a country that had no Muslims living in it at all would consider doing a program like this.
 
2013-03-18 02:35:42 PM

s2s2s2: Keizer_Ghidorah: So you still believe that a white Nordic European man would be born in the Middle East 2,000 years ago because a book says he was the son of God, and because he's the son of God of course he's going to look like a clean white superior European?

If I am believing in any of it, why not all of it?


And if the Bible said Jesus was a one-eyed one-horned flying purple people eater who came to Earth to save mankind from the threat of Darth Vader from the planet Vulcan, would you unquestioningly accept it as the absolute truth?

It's both cute and sad how desperately Christians will try to justify everything in order to keep their faith in a being who demands complete servitude or else he'll send you to eternal unspeakable torture.
 
2013-03-18 02:35:56 PM

vpb: Looks like an older version of Obama.


He looks like his contrast has been enhanced; I think one of the art filters on my digital camera would make someone look like that.  Enhancing the contrast would emphasize the "texture" of the face which would make a person look older as well as evil.
 
2013-03-18 02:38:39 PM

BunkoSquad: FlashHarry: have they shown jesus yet? is he blonde?

No, but he is of course a handsome European.


They could have done worse that a Portuguese Jesus, I suppose.
 
2013-03-18 02:38:47 PM

H31N0US: dready zim: A famous song (I believe by NWA) once had the words,

Public Enemy. Fear of a Black President Planet


that`s the one, thank you.
 
2013-03-18 02:39:54 PM

pciszek: BunkoSquad: FlashHarry: have they shown jesus yet? is he blonde?

No, but he is of course a handsome European.

They could have done worse that a  Portuguese Jesus, I suppose.


That was a Depeche Mode song, wasn't it?
 
2013-03-18 02:42:10 PM
Is the argument essentially that this is rascist because we can't tell two black people apart?

And if "they all look the same to you" are you not yourself a rascist?

Hence if you believe that this depiction of Satan is rascist you yourself are a rascist

/QED and whatnot
 
2013-03-18 02:42:35 PM

s2s2s2: Only when responding to you.


Pity, that.  You should practice it more often. You don't seem to have the hang of it, yet.
 
2013-03-18 02:43:32 PM

Nabb1: pciszek: BunkoSquad: FlashHarry: have they shown jesus yet? is he blonde?

No, but he is of course a handsome European.

They could have done worse that a  Portuguese Jesus, I suppose.

That was a Depeche Mode song, wasn't it?


I think that was the one who couldn't save  his own ass.
 
2013-03-18 02:44:08 PM

pciszek: BunkoSquad: FlashHarry: have they shown jesus yet? is he blonde?

No, but he is of course a handsome European.

They could have done worse that a Portuguese Jesus, I suppose.


I reckon jesus looked like shimon peres
 
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