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2013-03-18 12:30:53 PM
The only thing bible-related that the "History" Channel should be showing is a documentary on how the Council of Trent cherry-picked the documents that best served them politically and bundled them together as an anthology.
 
2013-03-18 12:32:37 PM

arethereanybeernamesleft: Speaker2Animals: Care to answer the other question posed to you, professor? Any "real" evidence of his existence as religions portray him? Difficulty: bible =/= real.

Ahhhh, the common Christopher Hitchens fan.

Look--betting on or challenging someone to 'prove' the existence of God is a sucker's bet.  They can't do it.  You know they can't.  I know they can't.  If they're being honest, they know they can't.  But scornful disdain for a person's faith, such as that you're exhibiting, makes you a shiatty person, not them.  I'll never understand why anyone thinks Hitchens was smart.  Arguing about evidence where there is none is the most simple-minded schtick there is.  At least he made money off of it, his followers are just dolts.

Here's the thing--faith doesn't require proof.  Hell, not even scientific theory has been proven.  Once it is, we call it a law.  The law of gravity is a law because it has been proven.  The theory of relativity is still not proven, so it's still a theory.   Leave proof of God to theologians, and proof of relativity to physicists.  But don't be surprised when someone believes in something that can't be proven.

Get over yourself.


Would have been helpful if you'd read the original post, where he challenged someone to provide "real" evidence the historic Jesus looked like today's typical Middle Eastern man.
 
2013-03-18 12:36:18 PM
Go big or go home
 
2013-03-18 12:36:45 PM

I_C_Weener: But this idea of a mini-series covering the entirety of the Bible is strange.  I guess I'd love one covering Mohamed and the Quran though.  Of course that's just blasphemous.


Why is doing a mini-series devoted to the entirety of the Bible strange and yet you'd "love" to see one about Mohammed and the Quran?  Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see one too, but why do you have a double-standard?  White liberal guilt got you down?
 
2013-03-18 12:37:18 PM

PunGent: cman: Kinda looks like a mixture of Obama, Idid Amin, and that heavily disfigured character Tom Cruise plays in Minority Report

Um, you might be thinking of a different Cruise flick.

Vanilla Sky, maybe?


He's right- Minority Report.  He uses a muscle relaxant to disquise his face when he breaks back into the police station- looks very un-Cruise like.  Could not find the still from the movie.
 
2013-03-18 12:38:25 PM

vpb: Looks like an older version of Obama.


Well, all black folks look alike... right?
 
2013-03-18 12:38:40 PM

ExpressPork: WAY more entertaining and informative than Vikings.


I watched the first episode of Vikings (not the Bible yet) and thought about how ESPN tried to dabble in drama.  It reminded me of Brian Dennehy playing Bobby Knight.
 
2013-03-18 12:40:21 PM
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2013-03-18 12:41:43 PM

ExpressPork: I_C_Weener: But this idea of a mini-series covering the entirety of the Bible is strange.  I guess I'd love one covering Mohamed and the Quran though.  Of course that's just blasphemous.

Why is doing a mini-series devoted to the entirety of the Bible strange and yet you'd "love" to see one about Mohammed and the Quran?  Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see one too, but why do you have a double-standard?  White liberal guilt got you down?


I think he has a point.  Bible-dramas have been done over and over and over, and there's nothing wrong with that.  No one has ever done a Mohammed/Quran drama (well, apart from that nonsense on YouTube).  I guess mainly because some crazy SOBs would start blowing shiat up because that images of the Prophet are considered blasphemous.
 
2013-03-18 12:41:57 PM
History Channel?  Let me know when the Nazis show up in the story.
 
2013-03-18 12:42:53 PM
Looks more like the Emperor from Star Wars than Obama.
 
2013-03-18 12:43:39 PM

ficklefkrfark: Ned Stark: FlashHarry: unexplained bacon: There's a whole nutter narrative in fundie RW circles about Obama being pure evil at his core. Not just liberal or even "unAmerican", but spiritually, mystically evil...or as my Mother once put it to me, "he's evil, evil, evil"...*sigh*

what, exactly, has he done that's "evil?"

Had thousands, including children, killed for commiting unspeakable crimes like attending funerals for other people he's had killed?

So Bush is evil too? Thousands of Iraqi and afghan citizens were killed in the course of his presidency...some by drone strikes even!
It's funny when you guys all of a sudden care about Muslims dying in our war zones when it's not your guy calling the shots.
(I'm sure innocents were killed in the Kosovo offensive so Clinton is surely evil too...gulf war one, Bush number one is surely a monster...Reagan killed some of khaddafi's kids in an air strike....murderer)


Yeah, pretty much. What are you driving at?
 
2013-03-18 12:43:44 PM
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2013-03-18 12:44:03 PM
I was pleasantly surprised Sunday with nat geo. Documentaries on the unibomber, A Earhart, Bonnie and Clyde, DB Cooper etc.  That is till 7:00 when reality tv world started again
 
2013-03-18 12:44:23 PM

I_C_Weener: ExpressPork: WAY more entertaining and informative than Vikings.

I watched the first episode of Vikings (not the Bible yet) and thought about how ESPN tried to dabble in drama.  It reminded me of Brian Dennehy playing Bobby Knight.


And while I agree with many other posters here that the series is "cheap" looking - I guess they are doing the best with what they had to work with.  It really would be outstanding as a longer series with more money.  Maybe they should have started with a trial run of less episodes with higher prod value.  It definitely is far from being without fault - there are moments when I laughed out loud at the corniness (see pharoah's battle-cry as he chases the jews into the red sea) but regardless I can't stop watching and I'd like to think I'm learning a lot of religious history, which I find fascinating.

Also now that I know and fully understand the Bible's story of Abraham, his descendants and Moses....
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2013-03-18 12:45:23 PM

Mugato: Wouldn't it be more of an insult if they made him play God? He committed more atrocities than Satan.


I would like to see a statistical analysis of people/animals/natural environments killed in the name of God vs those in the name of Satan.  But hey, who would care?
 
2013-03-18 12:45:58 PM
I'm more outraged that Jesus' mother Mary is played by a menopausal ginger with an Irish brogue.
blog.beliefnet.com
/hot like Roma
 
2013-03-18 12:46:47 PM

ficklefkrfark: Ned Stark: FlashHarry: unexplained bacon: There's a whole nutter narrative in fundie RW circles about Obama being pure evil at his core. Not just liberal or even "unAmerican", but spiritually, mystically evil...or as my Mother once put it to me, "he's evil, evil, evil"...*sigh*

what, exactly, has he done that's "evil?"

Had thousands, including children, killed for commiting unspeakable crimes like attending funerals for other people he's had killed?

So Bush is evil too? Thousands of Iraqi and afghan citizens were killed in the course of his presidency...some by drone strikes even!
It's funny when you guys all of a sudden care about Muslims dying in our war zones when it's not your guy calling the shots.
(I'm sure innocents were killed in the Kosovo offensive so Clinton is surely evil too...gulf war one, Bush number one is surely a monster...Reagan killed some of khaddafi's kids in an air strike....murderer)


Yes. When Obama continues the same policies that made Bush evil, it means he is also evil. This isn't rocket surgery.
 
2013-03-18 12:51:35 PM

Colour_out_of_Space: The only thing bible-related that the "History" Channel should be showing is a documentary on how the Council of Trent cherry-picked the documents that best served them politically and bundled them together as an anthology.


That and the Council or Nicea would be nice.  Or some of the weirder episodes in the Vatican over the years.

But the Bible is not one coherent story.  It really has many different themes and stories.  Its not like different chapters of The Hobbit.  Its more like The Hobbit, Romeo and Juliet, then The Perfect Storm, then The Time Machine.  No coherence.

A Quran story would be nice. I'd like to see someone make some sense of it. And a true biography of Mohamed would be nice.  His story is only told in the broadest of strokes but a warrior prophet rising to power out of the desert tribes is Tales of Arabian Nights worthy.
 
2013-03-18 12:54:56 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: QueenOfHearts: I killed my cable almost a year ago...the only thing I miss is football...the rabbit ears don't pick up shiat in my apartment...I just stream everything now.

USATVnow, lowest package is 25 and you can stream it through most devices. I use a Roku.

Cut cable just recently, and not missing it one single bit.


Same here. Love my Roku. Saving $70 a month is nice too.

March Madness won't be the same experience, but I will adapt.

/end threadjack
 
2013-03-18 12:55:00 PM
evangelicaloutpost.com

/Satan's birthday. What a lousy party!
 
2013-03-18 12:55:17 PM

Squawky: I'm more outraged that Jesus' mother Mary is played by a menopausal ginger with an Irish brogue.
[blog.beliefnet.com image 480x360]
/hot like Roma


Wait...is that actually her?  And they're claiming to go for some sort of historical accuracy?  That's just special.
 
2013-03-18 12:56:02 PM

NuttierThanEver: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]

Best Satan ever

/If you disagree he'll lay you out and fill your mouth with your mother's feces


He was really good.

Also,
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-18 12:58:47 PM

I_C_Weener: NutWrench: Nabb1: WorldCitizen: Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?

This is why I dropped cable.

Because one channel ran a show you don't like? That'll show 'em.

Well, if you don't appreciate The Bible on the HISTORY CHANNEL, you can always avail yourself to their many other fine, historical offerings, like Big Shrimpin', Cajun Pawn Stars, American Pickers, Hairy Bikers (I am NOT making this up!), UFO hunters, Shark Wranglers, Swamp People or Full Metal Jousting. If this is the best they can do, I'd rather ditch cable completely and read a book.

Full Metal Jousting?  I think I'd like that show.


Full metal jousting was a cool show. I didnt know it wa still on the air. As for the debil, I think he looks kind of like a sith of some sort.
 
2013-03-18 12:59:54 PM

Ned Stark: ficklefkrfark: Ned Stark: FlashHarry: unexplained bacon: There's a whole nutter narrative in fundie RW circles about Obama being pure evil at his core. Not just liberal or even "unAmerican", but spiritually, mystically evil...or as my Mother once put it to me, "he's evil, evil, evil"...*sigh*

what, exactly, has he done that's "evil?"

Had thousands, including children, killed for commiting unspeakable crimes like attending funerals for other people he's had killed?

So Bush is evil too? Thousands of Iraqi and afghan citizens were killed in the course of his presidency...some by drone strikes even!
It's funny when you guys all of a sudden care about Muslims dying in our war zones when it's not your guy calling the shots.
(I'm sure innocents were killed in the Kosovo offensive so Clinton is surely evil too...gulf war one, Bush number one is surely a monster...Reagan killed some of khaddafi's kids in an air strike....murderer)

Yeah, pretty much. What are you driving at?


Sorry, thought you were cherry picking your outrage...Like the liberals who used to get all outraged by Bush's policies but now are less vocal when Obama carries on with them.
Or the conservatives than now all of a sudden care about drone strikes, or mental health issues (gun debate) or birds being killed by wind turbines.
/self serving sonofabiatches can EABD
 
2013-03-18 01:00:18 PM
Not their fault he looks like satan.
 
2013-03-18 01:00:22 PM

NuttierThanEver: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]

Best Satan ever

/If you disagree he'll lay you out and fill your mouth with your mother's feces


quoted for truth.  I generally see myself as a bad *shut your mouth* tough guy, but when I saw this movie I remember thinking that if that happened to me I'd pull up a chair and say "okay what did you want to talk about...the weather...you name it!"
 
2013-03-18 01:00:28 PM

I_C_Weener: A Quran story would be nice. I'd like to see someone make some sense of it. And a true biography of Mohamed would be nice. His story is only told in the broadest of strokes but a warrior prophet rising to power out of the desert tribes is Tales of Arabian Nights worthy.


Some how I don't think child bride is going to make past the suits no matter what the writers do with it
 
2013-03-18 01:02:11 PM
 
2013-03-18 01:04:11 PM

NuttierThanEver: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]

Best Satan ever

/If you disagree he'll lay you out and fill your mouth with your mother's feces


He really had that pretty face but can make your skin crawl Lucifer thing down pat. And he is probably my favorite Lucifer but Peter Stormare (Constantine) and Mark Pellegrino (Supernatural) both hold a special place in my Awesome Pop culture Lucifers list.

24.media.tumblr.com

"media.tumblr.com

/have another list of favorite pop culture Gabriels.
//Richard Speight Jr. Heads that list.
 
2013-03-18 01:06:16 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: QueenOfHearts: I killed my cable almost a year ago...the only thing I miss is football...the rabbit ears don't pick up shiat in my apartment...I just stream everything now.

USATVnow, lowest package is 25 and you can stream it through most devices. I use a Roku.

Cut cable just recently, and not missing it one single bit.


Kinda not available in the US though - "USTVNow's Internet content is available, at this time, only to US citizens and residents while they are in foreign countries. By registering I promise and warrant that my use of USTVNow is and will be consistent with this limitation."

Source -  https://www.ustvnow.com/register.php?sub=7
 
2013-03-18 01:09:34 PM
I can't believe this has gone on all morning and no one has mentioned:

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Plus he sold used cars . . .
 
2013-03-18 01:10:37 PM

vpb: [in2eastafrica.net image 634x380]


I'm so glad Robert Parrish has finally found work again. Damn Celtics.
 
2013-03-18 01:11:01 PM

fortheloveofgod: Kinda not available in the US though


I proxy the traffic, horrible of me I know, but I like being able to tell Comcast to fark off
 
2013-03-18 01:12:21 PM

QueenOfHearts: Wrencher: QueenOfHearts: NutWrench: Nabb1: WorldCitizen: Sock Ruh Tease: Why is there an actor who plays Satan in a History Channel miniseries?

This is why I dropped cable.

Because one channel ran a show you don't like? That'll show 'em.

Well, if you don't appreciate The Bible on the HISTORY CHANNEL, you can always avail yourself to their many other fine, historical offerings, like Big Shrimpin', Cajun Pawn Stars, American Pickers, Hairy Bikers (I am NOT making this up!), UFO hunters, Shark Wranglers, Swamp People or Full Metal Jousting. If this is the best they can do, I'd rather ditch cable completely and read a book.

Don't forget all the crap on The Learning Channel, too...19 Kids and Counting, My Big Fat American Gypsy Wedding, Long Island Medium, Four Weddings, Here Comes Honey BooBoo, etc, etc...what exactly are we learning, here?

I killed my cable almost a year ago...the only thing I miss is football...the rabbit ears don't pick up shiat in my apartment...I just stream everything now.

They have one decent show: Vikings
But I don't watch it expecting historical accuracy, I watch it for the Vikings hacking up monks...and babes with swords.

I tried to watch that via The History Channel's app on my iPad...I couldn't get into it.  I guess I was expecting a documentary, not a movie-type miniseries.  I can definitely see the appeal though.  I ended up watching Larry the Cable Guy be Amish for a day instead...at least he actually talks about the history of the country...and embarrasses people along the way.


Larry the cable guy at mission control was pretty funny. They gave him a live feed to the ISS and he was farkin with the astronauts.
 
2013-03-18 01:14:43 PM
Typical Fark. Ridicule of religion ok but a passing resemblence of an evil character to a lbieral black politician is and outrage:

24.media.tumblr.com

www.libertarianprepper.com
 
2013-03-18 01:14:44 PM

I_C_Weener: [www.stanthony.org image 600x338]

Charlton Heston as a Jew in ancient Egypt.  Are you not amused?


Yeah, that was a stretch, but how about a guy from the Lower East Side as Dathan:

classicmoviestills.com

Where's your messiah now, yeah, yeah!
 
2013-03-18 01:15:13 PM
The person who should really get a chance to play Satan at some point is Kevin Spacey.  Usual Suspects, House of Cards, the only good part of Superman Returns...  The man is so insanely good at playing affable, intelligent, and disguised monsters that he'd probably be absolutely amazing at playing the ultimate corruptor.
 
2013-03-18 01:17:15 PM

QueenOfHearts: the rabbit ears don't pick up shiat in my apartment


You're still watching an analog TV?  That might be part of your problem...
 
2013-03-18 01:18:39 PM

Last Man on Earth: The person who should really get a chance to play Satan at some point is Kevin Spacey.  Usual Suspects, House of Cards, the only good part of Superman Returns...  The man is so insanely good at playing affable, intelligent, and disguised monsters that he'd probably be absolutely amazing at playing the ultimate corruptor.


This comment warrants further discussion

house of cards farking ruled
 
2013-03-18 01:18:50 PM

jso2897: This text is now purple: jso2897: s2s2s2: What real evidence is there that Jesus was brown?

What real evidence is there that any one such person even existed?

Why don't you define "real" for us, Scottie?

Why don't you define it for yourself, Captain?


Because you're clearly setting up a real Scotsman argument, and I want to know where you placed the goal posts before we begin?
 
2013-03-18 01:21:48 PM

Colour_out_of_Space: The only thing bible-related that the "History" Channel should be showing is a documentary on how the Council of Trent cherry-picked the documents that best served them politically and bundled them together as an anthology.


THIS!
 
2013-03-18 01:22:50 PM

ficklefkrfark: Ned Stark: ficklefkrfark: Ned Stark: FlashHarry: unexplained bacon: There's a whole nutter narrative in fundie RW circles about Obama being pure evil at his core. Not just liberal or even "unAmerican", but spiritually, mystically evil...or as my Mother once put it to me, "he's evil, evil, evil"...*sigh*

what, exactly, has he done that's "evil?"

Had thousands, including children, killed for commiting unspeakable crimes like attending funerals for other people he's had killed?

So Bush is evil too? Thousands of Iraqi and afghan citizens were killed in the course of his presidency...some by drone strikes even!
It's funny when you guys all of a sudden care about Muslims dying in our war zones when it's not your guy calling the shots.
(I'm sure innocents were killed in the Kosovo offensive so Clinton is surely evil too...gulf war one, Bush number one is surely a monster...Reagan killed some of khaddafi's kids in an air strike....murderer)

Yeah, pretty much. What are you driving at?

Sorry, thought you were cherry picking your outrage...Like the liberals who used to get all outraged by Bush's policies but now are less vocal when Obama carries on with them.
Or the conservatives than now all of a sudden care about drone strikes, or mental health issues (gun debate) or birds being killed by wind turbines.
/self serving sonofabiatches can EABD


I only get pissed in the present tense. If you want me pissing in more Republican Cheerios, elect more of them.
 
2013-03-18 01:24:40 PM

vpb: [in2eastafrica.net image 634x380]


I honestly don't see it. There's discrepancies with the mouth, eyebrows, the mole on the chin and the fact the chin is slightly bigger.
 
2013-03-18 01:24:47 PM
Another good Satan:

blu.stb.s-msn.com
 
2013-03-18 01:25:55 PM

Gulper Eel: Isn't the Devil supposed to appear with a pleasing countenance? I'm thinking more like Elizabeth Hurley in "Bedazzled".


In a side-by-side comparison, I think I prefer the original.

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2013-03-18 01:26:10 PM

I_C_Weener: mekki: Gulper Eel: Isn't the Devil supposed to appear with a pleasing countenance? I'm thinking more like Elizabeth Hurley in "Bedazzled".

Satan is ugly. He is a demon. Lucifer, on the other hand, is the pretty boy being a Fallen Angel and all. Back during Biblical times, they were two separate beings. (The trinity was Satan. Lucifer and Beezlebub. They controlled Hell with a legion of General and Captain Fallen Angels and demons under them. How they got jumbled up, I forget. Maybe some monks were tired of writing everything in long hand and just bunched them up to save time and wrists.)

Also, in this same miniseries they also have black and Asian angels, as well as a black Samson. But I don't see anyone pointing that out as well.

Does black Samson look like The Rock?  Cuz that would be pretty cool.  And prove this was a Disney production.


Black samson looks like mark henry if we are going with a wrestling angle. Most of the rest of the characters look like dirty white guys.
 
2013-03-18 01:26:25 PM

Last Man on Earth: The person who should really get a chance to play Satan at some point is Kevin Spacey.  Usual Suspects, House of Cards, the only good part of Superman Returns...  The man is so insanely good at playing affable, intelligent, and disguised monsters that he'd probably be absolutely amazing at playing the ultimate corruptor.


I surprised he hasn't already. He would perfect for it. Absolutely perfect.
 
2013-03-18 01:26:57 PM

OldManDownDRoad: I can't believe this has gone on all morning and no one has mentioned:

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Plus he sold used cars . . .


Yeah he's in my top 5 as well.
Loved that show
 
2013-03-18 01:29:38 PM
img.photobucket.com

You know who loved Satan?
 
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