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(Washington Times)   Boehner: "I absolutely trust Obama" Call the Secret Service, it's a TRAP   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 7
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2013-03-18 10:12:49 AM
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tenpoundsofcheese: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.

Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.

If Republicans want specifics, they know where to look. The recommendations from the Simpson Bowles bipartisan commission.  The one that 0bama supported until he decided to ignore them.

FYFY


The commission voted against their own program; blaming Obama for not following Simpson-Bowles when the Simpson-Bowles committee voted against their plan even going to the House floor for a vote.

I support a balanced Simpson-Bowles type approach, but trying to "catch" Obama for not implementing something that never made it out of committee is silly.
2013-03-18 09:42:23 AM
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Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.

Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.


If Republicans want specifics, they know where to look. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner laid forth a detailed plan on Thursday containing proposals long held by the administration to both raise $1.6 trillion in additional revenue over the next 10 years and cut billions from Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs. On top of the $716 billion in savings included in the Affordable Care Act, in February, the administration detailed an estimated

thinkprogress.org

So are you ignorant, or just plain dishonest?
2013-03-18 09:30:51 AM
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Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.


This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.
2013-03-18 10:34:14 AM
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tenpoundsofcheese: WaitWhatWhy: Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.

Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.

So the individual mandate isn't a tax or a fine?

so you think everyone who doesn't buy healthcare insurance has to pay the tax? Is that what you really believe?


No, but I do think the cost of medical care is distributed more broadly under the ACA then under the previous system of jacking up rates on paying customers to cover the bad debt of non-paying customers. If anything, Obama is reducing the amount of free medical care being handed out, which might be one of the reasons that this "signature Democratic achievemernts" is actually a deficit reducer.
2013-03-18 10:21:48 AM
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tenpoundsofcheese: NateGrey: I keep checking to see what the teabagger contingent is saying about Boner

That is funny!
At least you don't complain when others write 0bama.


Others? You mean just yourself. I am in fact referring to Boner's high school football days:

Peter J. Boyer wrote of Boehner's football-playing days at Moeller High School in Cincinnati, Ohio: Moeller was a football powerhouse, coached by the future Notre Dame coach Gerry Faust, and Boehner became a reliable, if unspectacular, two-position regular as a linebacker and a center, earning Faust's respect for playing with pain after suffering a back injury. (Boehner's high-school nickname was, inevitably, Boner.)
2013-03-18 09:49:40 AM
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While I believe Boehner actually feel this way, this is part of negotiation.  Say some nice things, try to change the mood of the negotiations in your favor.
2013-03-18 09:40:06 AM
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Animatronik: Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid.


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