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2013-03-18 08:57:52 AM
Also, Boehner said Obama should be more like Clinton.

I'm going back to bed.
 
2013-03-18 08:58:48 AM
So what are the Moonies trying to sell us today? They used to try to stop you in the airport and sell you flowers. Today, it's polemical.
 
2013-03-18 09:02:27 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: So what are the Moonies trying to sell us today? They used to try to stop you in the airport and sell you flowers. Today, it's polemical.


dude, it's not just the Moonies selling this. Boehner said this on one of the morning shows yesterday. Moonie Times was just the article about it that got green
 
2013-03-18 09:06:39 AM
Boehner: "I absolutely trust Obama"

F**KING RINO
 
2013-03-18 09:11:25 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com

He knows he's days as speaker are numbered.  He's largely phoning it in at this point.
 
2013-03-18 09:12:01 AM
he's days = his days
 
2013-03-18 09:12:58 AM
It's a trap and ... Boner falls right into it,
 
2013-03-18 09:13:02 AM
"I trust Obama... to cave into all of my demands"
 
2013-03-18 09:13:28 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: So what are the Moonies trying to sell us today? They used to try to stop you in the airport and sell you flowers. Today, it's polemical.


Wasn't that the Hare Krishna?  At least, that's what that documentary, Airplane!, said.
 
2013-03-18 09:21:02 AM
I keep checking to see what the teabagger contingent is saying about Boner and Ryan and it seems they are burying these stories. Stupid conservative media.
 
2013-03-18 09:23:41 AM
The only thing absolut regarding Boehner is all the vodak surging through his veins.
 
2013-03-18 09:25:45 AM

NateGrey: I keep checking to see what the teabagger contingent is saying about Boner and Ryan and it seems they are burying these stories. Stupid conservative media.


Well then, I'm doing my job by getting this and the Ryan story onto Fark

/this is how I change the world...
//*sadness*
 
2013-03-18 09:26:45 AM
What hes saying is that he trusts Obama to do what he says as much as any politician does.

The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

So they have nothing to talk about until Obama decides he wants to lead from the front and do something in his second term that might be unpopular with a large segment of the population.
 
2013-03-18 09:30:51 AM

Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.


This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.
 
2013-03-18 09:32:24 AM
So...the over/under on Boehner drunk-dialing the media to take that back?
 
2013-03-18 09:33:08 AM

Epoch_Zero: The only thing absolut regarding Boehner is all the vodak surging through his veins.


I often thought Boehner looked like Vladimir Putin anyway, something about that haircut.

Quick, someone start P-shopping Boehner onto shirtless Putin.
 
2013-03-18 09:37:18 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.


Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.
 
2013-03-18 09:37:23 AM
stupid boner, that "knee-jerk-do-the-opposite" thing only works ON republicans.

you can't say "I trust Obama" in order to make him instinctively stop trusting himself.

/dnrtfa
//if I only had a brain
 
2013-03-18 09:37:30 AM

Animatronik: What hes saying is that he trusts Obama to do what he says as much as any politician does.

The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

So they have nothing to talk about until Obama decides he wants to lead from the front and do something in his second term that might be unpopular with a large segment of the population.


Wow, even Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney think you're a lying sack of .....
 
2013-03-18 09:38:38 AM

xanadian: Also, Boehner said Obama should be more like Clinton.

I'm going back to bed.


i thought you were kidding

/have now rtfa
 
2013-03-18 09:38:51 AM

somedude210: NateGrey: I keep checking to see what the teabagger contingent is saying about Boner and Ryan and it seems they are burying these stories. Stupid conservative media.

Well then, I'm doing my job by getting this and the Ryan story onto Fark

/this is how I change the world...
//*sadness*


Thank you kind sir. Both articles caught my eye, had to read them both first before starting my day.
 
2013-03-18 09:38:55 AM

Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.

Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.


So the individual mandate isn't a tax or a fine?
 
2013-03-18 09:40:06 AM

Animatronik: Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid.


www.theblaze.com
 
2013-03-18 09:42:23 AM

Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.

Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.


If Republicans want specifics, they know where to look. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner laid forth a detailed plan on Thursday containing proposals long held by the administration to both raise $1.6 trillion in additional revenue over the next 10 years and cut billions from Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs. On top of the $716 billion in savings included in the Affordable Care Act, in February, the administration detailed an estimated

thinkprogress.org

So are you ignorant, or just plain dishonest?
 
2013-03-18 09:49:04 AM

Animatronik: What hes saying is that he trusts Obama to do what he says as much as any politician does.

The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

So they have nothing to talk about until Obama decides he wants to lead from the front and do something in his second term that might be unpopular with a large segment of the population.


Hmmm this has the right talking points but little in the way of originality.  To tie this up more neatly, something should have been added about "If we had something other than a community organizer as president we would have a solution by now."

Sadly, I can only give this a B minus in the absence of originality.
 
2013-03-18 09:49:28 AM
Not feeling the Akbar reference, feels more like an Ashley Williams moment (minus the axe of course considering it could be interpreted as a threat.)
 
2013-03-18 09:49:40 AM
While I believe Boehner actually feel this way, this is part of negotiation.  Say some nice things, try to change the mood of the negotiations in your favor.
 
2013-03-18 09:51:48 AM

NateGrey: Thank you kind sir. Both articles caught my eye, had to read them both first before starting my day.


ah ha! I am changing the world, one farker at a time
 
2013-03-18 09:51:58 AM

PanicMan: While I believe Boehner actually feel this way, this is part of negotiation.  Say some nice things, try to change the mood of the negotiations in your favor.


it is strangely refreshing though, seeing a republican attempt pragmatism :P
 
2013-03-18 09:55:13 AM
Why the faux outrage?  You can trust a person but not agree with them.

That may be too hard of a concept for some people to grasp.
 
2013-03-18 09:59:00 AM

NateGrey: I keep checking to see what the teabagger contingent is saying about Boner


That is funny!
At least you don't complain when others write 0bama.
 
2013-03-18 10:00:36 AM
Well, the comments are lovely.
 
2013-03-18 10:01:46 AM

WaitWhatWhy: Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.

Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.

So the individual mandate isn't a tax or a fine?


so you think everyone who doesn't buy healthcare insurance has to pay the tax? Is that what you really believe?
 
2013-03-18 10:04:49 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.

Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.

If Republicans want specifics, they know where to look. The recommendations from the Simpson Bowles bipartisan commission.  The one that 0bama supported until he decided to ignore them.


FYFY
 
2013-03-18 10:12:49 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.

Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.

If Republicans want specifics, they know where to look. The recommendations from the Simpson Bowles bipartisan commission.  The one that 0bama supported until he decided to ignore them.

FYFY


The commission voted against their own program; blaming Obama for not following Simpson-Bowles when the Simpson-Bowles committee voted against their plan even going to the House floor for a vote.

I support a balanced Simpson-Bowles type approach, but trying to "catch" Obama for not implementing something that never made it out of committee is silly.
 
2013-03-18 10:13:37 AM
The cynic in me says he's just paying attention to poll data
 
2013-03-18 10:15:33 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: So are you ignorant, or just plain dishonest?


You really have to ask?
 
2013-03-18 10:21:48 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: NateGrey: I keep checking to see what the teabagger contingent is saying about Boner

That is funny!
At least you don't complain when others write 0bama.


Others? You mean just yourself. I am in fact referring to Boner's high school football days:

Peter J. Boyer wrote of Boehner's football-playing days at Moeller High School in Cincinnati, Ohio: Moeller was a football powerhouse, coached by the future Notre Dame coach Gerry Faust, and Boehner became a reliable, if unspectacular, two-position regular as a linebacker and a center, earning Faust's respect for playing with pain after suffering a back injury. (Boehner's high-school nickname was, inevitably, Boner.)
 
2013-03-18 10:34:08 AM

meat0918: The cynic in me says he's just paying attention to poll data


Was about the say just that. Polling must finally be showing them what effect a shutdown will have on 2014.
 
2013-03-18 10:34:14 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: WaitWhatWhy: Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.

Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.

So the individual mandate isn't a tax or a fine?

so you think everyone who doesn't buy healthcare insurance has to pay the tax? Is that what you really believe?


No, but I do think the cost of medical care is distributed more broadly under the ACA then under the previous system of jacking up rates on paying customers to cover the bad debt of non-paying customers. If anything, Obama is reducing the amount of free medical care being handed out, which might be one of the reasons that this "signature Democratic achievemernts" is actually a deficit reducer.
 
2013-03-18 10:50:38 AM

andrewagill: Because People in power are Stupid: So what are the Moonies trying to sell us today? They used to try to stop you in the airport and sell you flowers. Today, it's polemical.

Wasn't that the Hare Krishna?  At least, that's what that documentary, Airplane!, said.


They don't do it anymore. My lawn, get off it.
 
2013-03-18 11:56:35 AM

xanadian: Also, Boehner said Obama should be more like Clinton.

I'm going back to bed.


Bacardi 151 will do that to you.  Boner will be fine in the morning.  except the headaches, sh*ts, puking, etc.
 
2013-03-18 12:05:39 PM
The split in the GOP is becoming wider, fairly quickly. Its going to get good the closer we get to the election.
 
2013-03-18 12:11:50 PM

iron_city_ap: The split in the GOP is becoming wider, fairly quickly. Its going to get good the closer we get to the election.

Man. I hope so. I don't support either but both the TeaParty and the traditional GOP would do better separately.
 
2013-03-18 01:34:08 PM

olddeegee: iron_city_ap: The split in the GOP is becoming wider, fairly quickly. Its going to get good the closer we get to the election.
Man. I hope so. I don't support either but both the TeaParty and the traditional GOP would do better separately.


They already are separate, they're Democrats.
 
2013-03-18 07:25:12 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.

Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.

If Republicans want specifics, they know where to look. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner laid forth a detailed plan on Thursday containing proposals long held by the administration to both raise $1.6 trillion in additional revenue over the next 10 years and cut billions from Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs. On top of the $716 billion in savings included in the Affordable Care Act, in February, the administration detailed an estimated



So are you ignorant, or just plain dishonest?


All gimmickry and double counting. Even the liberals on the Washington Post editorial board have figured that out. And cost savings from Obamacare? Let me laugh even harder at that one. More gimmickry.

Obama is proving to be pretty dumb. Clinton at least recognized in his second term that he had to structure his goals around what is achievable through Congress. Obama is only now even talking to Congress in year 5, and he won't budge an inch on entitlements. His legacy is going to be defined by out of control healthcare spending and a mountain of debt.

That's the Obama legacy.

/i actually work for a living, so I can't post on Fark all day.
 
2013-03-19 09:30:28 AM

Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: Philip Francis Queeg: Animatronik: The problem here is that they are miles apart in terms of what should be done. Its obvious that we can't get there with tax increases, we need spending cuts to entitlements. Obama can't bring himself to go there, so there is simply no bridging the gap under plans he supports.

This statement is a complete and utter lie.  You should be ashamed.

Show me where Obama proposed actual cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. Forget about hypothetical savings due to electronic bookeeping, or other horse manure theyve been selling to the public. Im talking about actual cuts. If you can resist it avoid stupid incorrect generalizations like "there is no problem with social security".

The problem is Obama is trying to give away free medfical care atbthe worst possible time. He cant balance the budget without cutting "signature Democratic achievemernts" so.there.will.be.no.cuts to those programs, just gimmickry.

If Republicans want specifics, they know where to look. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner laid forth a detailed plan on Thursday containing proposals long held by the administration to both raise $1.6 trillion in additional revenue over the next 10 years and cut billions from Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs. On top of the $716 billion in savings included in the Affordable Care Act, in February, the administration detailed an estimated

So are you ignorant, or just plain dishonest?

All gimmickry and double counting. Even the liberals on the Washington Post editorial board have figured that out. And cost savings from Obamacare? Let me laugh even harder at that one. More gimmickry.

Obama is proving to be pretty dumb. Clinton at least recognized in his second term that he had to structure his goals around what is achievable through Congress. Obama is only now even talking to Congress in year 5, and he won't budge an inch on entitlements. His legacy is going to be defined by out ...


So you are just plain dishonest. Got it.
 
2013-03-19 05:31:32 PM

Animatronik: Obama is only now even talking to Congress in year 5, and he won't budge an inch on entitlements. His legacy is going to be defined by out of control healthcare spending and a mountain of debt.


So his whole thing about reforming the cost of living increase for SS isn't an inch on entitlements? Really? He's ready to go against democrats to reform social safety nets and that's not moving an inch? You're an idiot
 
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