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2013-03-18 10:04:49 AM  

wambu: I RTFA to see what kind of "assault rifle" was found.

/leaving dissapoint


It was a Bush-Uzi AK-Glock16.
 
2013-03-18 10:08:22 AM  

Kome: themanuf: Kome: Really rowdy around here today. Between 2am and 8am, I received 5 emergency alert text messages from the campus, which really interrupted my sleep, though understandably. Lot of places still closed off, except where I work, so I'm here, as are the rest of the people from campus who work here and it's a topic of conversation. Sad... and scary. I have a few friends who live in Tower 1. Not fun at all.

I stayed home after seeing the alerts, but will probably not wait until noon to head in.  Not sure if you were any where near there this morning, but am I safe to assume the NE corner (around the water tower) is accessible?

I work on Research Park and I don't need to go through campus to get there from where I live. No clue, but I assume it's fine since they sent a mass message saying garage G is open again at around 8am.


Yeah, that message made me laugh: "Garage G now open, campus closed until noon."

Because that makes perfect sense.  Tell us to continue to avoid campus, but the garage right next to tower 1 is open.
 
2013-03-18 10:11:42 AM  

heypete: Assuming one has access to basic chemistry supplies (mercury, nitric acid, ethanol, and distilled water) it's fairly easy to make.


And, of course, you can pick those chemicals up at any corner drugstore.

/no, you can't
//got interested in chemistry back when a few goodies were still generally available
///probably not the best time to retell any of those stories
 
2013-03-18 10:13:12 AM  

11Casey: They should make it illegal to have guns and explosives on campus.


i.imgur.com

Some people still speed.  If we believe your snark we can only conclude that traffic laws do not work and only serve to oppress the people who actually obey the speed limit.

Thankfully, there are people who are able to spot this as an absurd conclusion.
 
2013-03-18 10:16:49 AM  

jfarkinB: And, of course, you can pick those chemicals up at any corner drugstore.

/no, you can't
//got interested in chemistry back when a few goodies were still generally available
///probably not the best time to retell any of those stories


Indeed, though it certainly wouldn't be terribly suspicious for someone at a university to order such chemicals from a supply company. It's not like mercury or nitric acid are rare, super-hazardous stuff as far as chemicals go. You certainly don't want to ingest them, but it's not like ordering plutonium.

/is considering some DIY aluminum anodizing. This requires some sulfuric acid, which can be found at any auto parts store. Fun times.
//has some fun stories from the lab, though mostly involving stupidly powerful magnets and electricity rather than chemicals
 
2013-03-18 10:20:24 AM  
I submitted this with the Hero tag. "This man's actions saved saved dozens of people from bomb, assault rifle."

/Truly grateful he decided to eat a gun rather than shoot up a restaurant.
 
2013-03-18 10:33:03 AM  

heypete: jfarkinB: And, of course, you can pick those chemicals up at any corner drugstore.

/no, you can't
//got interested in chemistry back when a few goodies were still generally available
///probably not the best time to retell any of those stories

Indeed, though it certainly wouldn't be terribly suspicious for someone at a university to order such chemicals from a supply company. It's not like mercury or nitric acid are rare, super-hazardous stuff as far as chemicals go. You certainly don't want to ingest them, but it's not like ordering plutonium.

/is considering some DIY aluminum anodizing. This requires some sulfuric acid, which can be found at any auto parts store. Fun times.
//has some fun stories from the lab, though mostly involving stupidly powerful magnets and electricity rather than chemicals


Or just take O Chem.  That shiz will be laying about and easy to pick up.
 
2013-03-18 10:33:03 AM  
60K students? i had no idea UCF was that big.
 
2013-03-18 10:42:11 AM  

jso2897: wambu: jso2897: wambu: I RTFA to see what kind of "assault rifle" was found.

/leaving dissapoint

Nice to see that somebody is focusing on the REALLY IMPORTANT aspect of the story.
Let's not forget who the REAL VICTIMS are, here.

[i.imgur.com image 410x361]

[i18.photobucket.com image 624x416]
"Sensitivity". indeed. Lot of that going around, lately - if you know what I mean.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-18 10:54:49 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Because People in power are Stupid: Does anyone even realize how easy it is to make mercury fulminate?

Yeah, I followed the instructions from an episode of Breaking Bad.


www.valorebooks.com
 
2013-03-18 11:20:40 AM  

theurge14: 11Casey: They should make it illegal to have guns and explosives on campus.

[i.imgur.com image 280x350]

Some people still speed.  If we believe your snark we can only conclude that traffic laws do not work and only serve to oppress the people who actually obey the speed limit.

Thankfully, there are people who are able to spot this as an absurd conclusion.




Those people have never been caught in a speed trap by a cop trying to meet his quota.
 
2013-03-18 11:29:17 AM  

scumshine: heypete: skozlaw: I don't even know what that is, but I'm going to guess somebody probably knows that it's easy to make mercury fulminate. Chemists, bomb technicians, stupid kids with too much free time and an IRC client...

It's a primary explosive. Assuming one has access to basic chemistry supplies (mercury, nitric acid, ethanol, and distilled water) it's fairly easy to make.

Also, fulminate of mercury was used in the caps on percussion lock muskets in the 19th century, such as Model 1864 Springfield and the British Enfield. Although some tried actual paper tape caps, such as the Maynard tape priming system, the tapes could get wet and worthless, so caps were the way to go.



Can also be used to make a firecracker to roll under the Old Man's bunk.


i1209.photobucket.com

Blam boys, Blam Blam BLAM!
 
2013-03-18 11:46:33 AM  
We must immediately ban all dorms!
 
2013-03-18 11:59:42 AM  

theurge14: 11Casey: They should make it illegal to have guns and explosives on campus.

[i.imgur.com image 280x350]

Some people still speed.  If we believe your snark we can only conclude that traffic laws do not work and only serve to oppress the people who actually obey the speed limit.

Thankfully, there are people who are able to spot this as an absurd conclusion.


Montana went without a speed limit for years and their traffic fatalities actually went down. The only reason they have a speed limit now is because the Feds threatened to withold highway funding until they stepped back in line. I guess it isn't so absurd after all.
 
2013-03-18 12:19:00 PM  

umad: theurge14: 11Casey: They should make it illegal to have guns and explosives on campus.

[i.imgur.com image 280x350]

Some people still speed.  If we believe your snark we can only conclude that traffic laws do not work and only serve to oppress the people who actually obey the speed limit.

Thankfully, there are people who are able to spot this as an absurd conclusion.

Montana went without a speed limit for years and their traffic fatalities actually went down. The only reason they have a speed limit now is because the Feds threatened to withold highway funding until they stepped back in line. I guess it isn't so absurd after all.


The moon doesn't have speed limits either.
 
2013-03-18 12:20:11 PM  

WienerButt: The alerts were sent to me and woke me up even though I graduated several years ago.


^ all that

It sure seems like they find an awful lot of "suspicious packages on campus." Just when I was starting to get desensitized by all the false alarms...

Still live in Oviedo, so the messages are relevant.
 
2013-03-18 12:33:46 PM  
All this talk about guns, what about banning bombs?
 
2013-03-18 12:37:07 PM  
And so begins the nightmare second spring of unending copycat hoax bomb threats on campuses nationwide. This one was real, yes, which reinforces the need to check every single one.

/Pitt high score is 145
//Most campuses will see 20-30
///I don't want to be right about this. Please make me not be right.
 
2013-03-18 12:53:39 PM  

theurge14: umad: theurge14: 11Casey: They should make it illegal to have guns and explosives on campus.

[i.imgur.com image 280x350]

Some people still speed.  If we believe your snark we can only conclude that traffic laws do not work and only serve to oppress the people who actually obey the speed limit.

Thankfully, there are people who are able to spot this as an absurd conclusion.

Montana went without a speed limit for years and their traffic fatalities actually went down. The only reason they have a speed limit now is because the Feds threatened to withold highway funding until they stepped back in line. I guess it isn't so absurd after all.

The moon doesn't have speed limits either.


Wow. I can't say I have ever seen somebody haul the goalposts all the way to the moon before. And after just one post too.
 
2013-03-18 01:14:46 PM  
Not news: student commits suicide
News: with a gun in his dorm room
Fark front page breaking news: there was an ASSAULT WEAPON and explosives in the room
 
2013-03-18 01:19:17 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Does anyone even realize how easy it is to make mercury fulminate?


I learned how to make crystals from 4chan... so i'm guessing mercury fulminate isn't terribly hard to do.

(bleach + lemon juice)
 
2013-03-18 01:23:13 PM  

Bruxellensis: Not news: student commits suicide
News: with a gun in his dorm room
Fark front page breaking news: there was an ASSAULT WEAPON and explosives in the room


I can't tell if you're upset about this getting green lighted, or if you just wanted to share your headline with the thread.
 
2013-03-18 01:50:42 PM  

themanuf: Kome: themanuf: Kome: Really rowdy around here today. Between 2am and 8am, I received 5 emergency alert text messages from the campus, which really interrupted my sleep, though understandably. Lot of places still closed off, except where I work, so I'm here, as are the rest of the people from campus who work here and it's a topic of conversation. Sad... and scary. I have a few friends who live in Tower 1. Not fun at all.

I stayed home after seeing the alerts, but will probably not wait until noon to head in.  Not sure if you were any where near there this morning, but am I safe to assume the NE corner (around the water tower) is accessible?

I work on Research Park and I don't need to go through campus to get there from where I live. No clue, but I assume it's fine since they sent a mass message saying garage G is open again at around 8am.

Yeah, that message made me laugh: "Garage G now open, campus closed until noon."

Because that makes perfect sense.  Tell us to continue to avoid campus, but the garage right next to tower 1 is open.


I still think the imbecile of the month award should go to whoever thought it was a good idea to put everyone from tower 1 in the nearest, largest, most blindingly obvious target available during a BOMB SCARE.
 
2013-03-18 01:54:28 PM  

umad: theurge14: umad: theurge14: 11Casey: They should make it illegal to have guns and explosives on campus.

[i.imgur.com image 280x350]

Some people still speed.  If we believe your snark we can only conclude that traffic laws do not work and only serve to oppress the people who actually obey the speed limit.

Thankfully, there are people who are able to spot this as an absurd conclusion.

Montana went without a speed limit for years and their traffic fatalities actually went down. The only reason they have a speed limit now is because the Feds threatened to withold highway funding until they stepped back in line. I guess it isn't so absurd after all.

The moon doesn't have speed limits either.

Wow. I can't say I have ever seen somebody haul the goalposts all the way to the moon before. And after just one post too.


Hint: Uninhabited state is not a good example traffic safety statistics.

Bonus points: Montana changed their speed limit laws not due to the Feds but because of a state supreme court challenge to their vague wording in their "reasonable and prudent" speed limit laws.
 
2013-03-18 02:45:05 PM  
Self-inflicted does not necessarily mean suicide. He could have been cleaning his gun and shot himself. It's Florida, after all.

And remember, these are cops telling us there were explosives in the room. That could mean anything from C-4 to model rocket fuses.
 
2013-03-18 02:48:03 PM  

skozlaw: Because People in power are Stupid: Does anyone even realize how easy it is to make mercury fulminate?

I don't even know what that is, but I'm going to guess somebody probably knows that it's easy to make mercury fulminate. Chemists, bomb technicians, stupid kids with too much free time and an IRC client...

/ If, in fact, it is easy to make mercury fulminate.


It is super easy, actually, but it's also a low level explosive, as well as unstable and it deteriorates rather fast.

IE: any moron could make some, but it's hardly worth the effort.  You might make a decent pipe bomb out of it, but unless you are actually using it as a blasting cap, the stuff doesn't have enough boom to be a real problem.

Also, there are far better chemical explosives you can make at home, I'm just not going to tell anyone what they are.  ;)
 
2013-03-18 03:24:22 PM  

theurge14: 11Casey: They should make it illegal to have guns and explosives on campus.

[i.imgur.com image 280x350]

Some people still speed.  If we believe your snark we can only conclude that traffic laws do not work and only serve to oppress the people who actually obey the speed limit.

Thankfully, there are people who are able to spot this as an absurd conclusion.


Would you support setting the speed limit on the highway to 30 MPH?

Why not?
 
2013-03-18 04:14:28 PM  

namegoeshere: See, Other Angry Crazy People? THIS is how you do it. If you have to kill someone, start with yourself.

Better yet, seek help before you get to that point and avoid killing anyone. But at least this guy didn't take anybody with him.


Bill Maher said shortly after Columbine, regarding the entitled snowflake syndrome,

"I like kids with low self-esteem because when they snap,  they kill themselves."
 
2013-03-18 04:16:38 PM  

wambu: I RTFA to see what kind of "assault rifle" was found.

/leaving dissapoint


In before some gun nut complains about the assault rifle descriptio...dammit.
 
2013-03-18 04:19:58 PM  

dittybopper: theurge14: 11Casey: They should make it illegal to have guns and explosives on campus.

[i.imgur.com image 280x350]

Some people still speed.  If we believe your snark we can only conclude that traffic laws do not work and only serve to oppress the people who actually obey the speed limit.

Thankfully, there are people who are able to spot this as an absurd conclusion.

Would you support setting the speed limit on the highway to 30 MPH?

Why not?


Those who work for various transportation departments and/or civil engineers could go into better detail than I about this as I am not an expert, but there are typically several determining factors used to set a road speed limit.  The main factor usually is the 85th percentile speed (simply put, a local traffic study that determines the speed that 85% of vehicles on the road move at or below), other factors being road surface characteristics  road surroundings, curves, hazardous sections, pedestrian activity, and others.  For a rural straight highway in Montana with a good surface I would say this could be anywhere from 65mph to 80mph.  Setting the speed limit on this theoretical highway to 30mph would break the 85th percentile speed because the majority of drivers would ignore it.
 
2013-03-18 04:39:33 PM  
How does this only have 74 comments? Wow.

1.) Why did the cops tell kids to lock their door and stay in their rooms? Lots of captives waiting to be blown up...

2.) He wasn't enrolled in the school, but was still allowed in the dorms. Flag 1.

3.) He wasn't paying for his dorm room, but hadn't been evicted. Flag 2.

4.) 30 year old college "kid". Flag 3.


But hey, guns are the problem! Not people making bombs, not utterly incompetent college admins. Guns are the problem.
 
2013-03-18 04:41:57 PM  

Bullseyed: But hey, guns are the problem! Not people making bombs, not utterly incompetent college admins. Guns are the problem.


No. Only assault-looking guns
.
 
2013-03-18 04:45:12 PM  

umad: theurge14: 11Casey: They should make it illegal to have guns and explosives on campus.

[i.imgur.com image 280x350]

Some people still speed.  If we believe your snark we can only conclude that traffic laws do not work and only serve to oppress the people who actually obey the speed limit.

Thankfully, there are people who are able to spot this as an absurd conclusion.

Montana went without a speed limit for years and their traffic fatalities actually went down. The only reason they have a speed limit now is because the Feds threatened to withold highway funding until they stepped back in line. I guess it isn't so absurd after all.


Indeed. The rule of all stats everywhere it has ever been tried is the higher the speed limit the less accidents and less deaths there are.
 
2013-03-18 04:48:33 PM  

wambu: Bullseyed: But hey, guns are the problem! Not people making bombs, not utterly incompetent college admins. Guns are the problem.

No. Only assault-looking guns
.


Worthy correction. I better go hide my assault rifle BB gun.
 
2013-03-18 05:18:46 PM  

jso2897: wambu: I RTFA to see what kind of "assault rifle" was found.

/leaving dissapoint

Nice to see that somebody is focusing on the REALLY IMPORTANT aspect of the story.
Let's not forget who the REAL VICTIMS are, here.


And subby hooks one. Good going!
 
2013-03-18 05:19:20 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: namegoeshere: See, Other Angry Crazy People? THIS is how you do it. If you have to kill someone, start with yourself.

Better yet, seek help before you get to that point and avoid killing anyone. But at least this guy didn't take anybody with him.

Bill Maher said shortly after Columbine, regarding the entitled snowflake syndrome,

"I like kids with low self-esteem because when they snap,  they kill themselves."


"Police said it appeared his timeline had been thrown off when authorities responded to the fire alarm call quicker than he expected."
 
2013-03-18 06:17:18 PM  

Richard C Stanford: wambu: I RTFA to see what kind of "assault rifle" was found.

/leaving dissapoint

It was a Bush-Uzi AK-Glock16.


I call manufactured sensationalism on the
evidence found and case they're pushing on this kid..

To pre-order this plastic dress up kit is $1099 and they're not even production...a loner kid who couldn't even get enough to re enroll on school somehow gets a pre-production plastic kit that makes a plinker .22 look scary that costs over a grand, a kid who has a name that sounds 'nine-eleveny'?

m249us.com

/it's a set-up
//an IED can be a firecracker taped to a can o hair spray
 
2013-03-18 06:47:06 PM  

Krieghund: And remember, these are cops telling us there were explosives in the room. That could mean anything from C-4 to model rocket fuses.


Maybe reloading supplys....a canister of H335 powder.

Maybe some Tannerite targets.

Hell could have even been a propane camping lantern.
 
2013-03-18 06:49:48 PM  
What is a 30 year old doing living a college dorm? Isn't there an age limit? Creeper.
 
2013-03-18 07:04:19 PM  

wambu: I RTFA to see what kind of "assault rifle" was found.

/leaving dissapoint


I was curious too.  Found one news story that said it was a 'tactical .22 rifle'.  So, I'm guessing scary looking stock.  Maybe a fore-grip!  Just like the military uses!! OMG!!!
 
2013-03-18 07:15:58 PM  

znapel: wambu: I RTFA to see what kind of "assault rifle" was found.

/leaving dissapoint

I was curious too.  Found one news story that said it was a 'tactical .22 rifle'.  So, I'm guessing scary looking stock.  Maybe a fore-grip!  Just like the military uses!! OMG!!!


A .22? OH MY GOD. We really dodged a bullet here so to speak. He could have put somebody's eye out with that thing.
 
2013-03-18 07:16:14 PM  

looolllolol: Richard C Stanford: wambu: I RTFA to see what kind of "assault rifle" was found.

/leaving dissapoint

It was a Bush-Uzi AK-Glock16.

I call manufactured sensationalism on the
evidence found and case they're pushing on this kid..

To pre-order this plastic dress up kit is $1099 and they're not even production...a loner kid who couldn't even get enough to re enroll on school somehow gets a pre-production plastic kit that makes a plinker .22 look scary that costs over a grand, a kid who has a name that sounds 'nine-eleveny'?

m249us.com

/it's a set-up
//an IED can be a firecracker taped to a can o hair spray




I'm getting a similar vibe from this incident.
Fear and outrage can be manufactured to the benefit of local authorities, who are looking to dip into more homeland security funding. Its also good for the media who now have a story to sell.

Suicide is a sad but commonplace event. Terror attacks are profitable.
It would be good to hear a few more details before buying into the official story.
 
2013-03-18 07:16:30 PM  

znapel: Found one news story that said it was a 'tactical .22 rifle'.


OMG! That's a scary high-powered people killer. He could hurt hims . . . oh, wait.
 
2013-03-18 07:48:38 PM  
OK, I found another news source that had pics.  He had a .45 and a .22 tarted up to look like a silenced MP5.  I wonder how much of the "hundreds of rounds of ammo" they found was .22.  I mean, they practically sell it by weight.

So, if a .22 dressed up to look scary is an assault weapon, is it OK to have a .223 Armalite as long its made up to look old-timey?
 
2013-03-18 08:01:25 PM  

znapel: OK, I found another news source that had pics.  He had a .45 and a .22 tarted up to look like a silenced MP5.  I wonder how much of the "hundreds of rounds of ammo" they found was .22.  I mean, they practically sell it by weight.

So, if a .22 dressed up to look scary is an assault weapon, is it OK to have a .223 Armalite as long its made up to look old-timey?


GSG 522 perhaps?

Havent read or searched for anymore articles regarding this sensationalist story......lanza and holmes went from wearing body armor and trauma plates to a
load bearing vest and a fishing vest.....assault weapon to .22 plinker sounds typical in this day and age where Biden and Obama are relying on the "reliable" media to help push the gun control narrative.
 
2013-03-18 08:06:34 PM  

Giltric: znapel: OK, I found another news source that had pics.  He had a .45 and a .22 tarted up to look like a silenced MP5.  I wonder how much of the "hundreds of rounds of ammo" they found was .22.  I mean, they practically sell it by weight.

So, if a .22 dressed up to look scary is an assault weapon, is it OK to have a .223 Armalite as long its made up to look old-timey?

GSG 522 perhaps?

Havent read or searched for anymore articles regarding this sensationalist story......lanza and holmes went from wearing body armor and trauma plates to a
load bearing vest and a fishing vest.....assault weapon to .22 plinker sounds typical in this day and age where Biden and Obama are relying on the "reliable" media to help push the gun control narrative.


Don't forget about the "tear gas grenades".
 
2013-03-18 10:22:02 PM  

znapel: OK, I found another news source that had pics.  He had a .45 and a .22 tarted up to look like a silenced MP5.  I wonder how much of the "hundreds of rounds of ammo" they found was .22.  I mean, they practically sell it by weight.

So, if a .22 dressed up to look scary is an assault weapon, is it OK to have a .223 Armalite as long its made up to look old-timey?


Since it says he bought them recently I was just amazed he was actually able to find .22 and .45 ammo
 
2013-03-19 06:00:33 AM  

Benjamin Orr: znapel: OK, I found another news source that had pics.  He had a .45 and a .22 tarted up to look like a silenced MP5.  I wonder how much of the "hundreds of rounds of ammo" they found was .22.  I mean, they practically sell it by weight.

So, if a .22 dressed up to look scary is an assault weapon, is it OK to have a .223 Armalite as long its made up to look old-timey?

Since it says he bought them recently I was just amazed he was actually able to find .22 and .45 ammo


That should have been a giant red flag right there.
Because of all the panic buying, My last trip to the store sounded like a Monty Python skit.

/Do you have any .40sw?
/"Ah! We do have some 40, sir.... It's a bit rusty,
/Well good, I'll have that then.
/sir.... Well, as a matter of fact it's very rusty, sir....
/I like it rusty.
/I think it's rustier than you like it, sir...
/I don't care how farking rusty it is, hand it over!
/Yes, sir."...  "Oh... the cops bought it."
 
2013-03-19 08:25:31 AM  

Richard C Stanford: wambu: I RTFA to see what kind of "assault rifle" was found.

/leaving dissapoint

It was a Bush-Uzi AK-Glock16.




I know, stupid media, right? Calling any ol' rifle an "assault weapon". I bet it was one of those rifles that can't even be used to assault someone.

 
2013-03-19 09:56:39 AM  

MisterRonbo: Richard C Stanford: wambu: I RTFA to see what kind of "assault rifle" was found.

/leaving dissapoint

It was a Bush-Uzi AK-Glock16.

I know, stupid media, right? Calling any ol' rifle an "assault weapon". I bet it was one of those rifles that can't even be used to assault someone.


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Assault hammers:
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Assault stick:
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