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(Fox News)   Problem: Farm animals are being abused while being taken to slaughter, do you A. Impose higher standards for animal welfare B. Prosecute those responsible for animal abuse or C. Make it illegal to record videos at the slaughterhouse   (foxnews.com) divider line 159
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2013-03-18 06:30:04 PM

WhiskeyBoy: Anyway, if you think farms are dens of animal abuse and filth, drive out to the country, find a hog farm or a dairy or whatever, and drive down the driveway and ring the bell of the home. Ask whoever answers if you can volunteer some time to "see how a farm works". Mention you live in the city, and want a taste of "country life". These things will humor the farmer, and he will laugh at your cosmopolitan, sissy ways and give you a laundry list of chores to be done that day more difficult than what you typically accomplish in a month.


Coincidentally, this appeared in my inbox today:

Dear Ma and Pa,

I am well. Hope you are too.

The Marine Corps beats working for old man Minch by a mile. I was restless at first because you got to stay in bed till nearly 5:00 a.m., but am getting so I like to sleep late.

Tell brother Walt and brother Elmer that all you do in the Marines before breakfast is smooth your cot and shine some things. No hogs to slop, feed to pitch, mash to mix, wood to split, fire to lay. Practically nothing. Men got to shave but it is not so bad -- there's warm water.

A Marine Corps breakfast is strong on trimmings like fruit juice, cereal, eggs, bacon, etc., but kind of weak on chops, potatoes, ham, steak, fried eggplant, pie and other regular food. But tell Walt and Elmer you can always sit between two city boys that live on coffee. Their food plus yours holds you till noon, when you get fed again. It's no wonder these city boys can't walk much.

As Marines we're expected to go on "route" marches, which the Platoon Sergeant says are long walks to harden us. If he thinks so, it is not my place to tell him different. A "route march" is about as far as to our mailbox at home. Then the city guys get sore feet and we all ride back in trucks. The country is nice, but awful flat. The Sergeant is like a schoolteacher. He nags some.

The Captain is like the school board. Majors and Colonels just ride around and frown. They don't bother you none.

This next will kill Walt and Elmer with laughing. I keep getting medals for shooting. I don't know why. The bullseye is near as big as a chipmunk head and don't move. And it ain't shooting at you, like the Higgett boys at home. All you got to do is lie there all comfortable and hit it. You don't even load your own cartridges. They come in boxes.

Then we have what they call hand-to-hand combat training. You get to wrestle with them city boys. I have to be real careful though, they break real easy. It ain't like fighting with that ol' bull at home. I'm about the best they got in this except for that Tug Jordan from over in Silver Lake. He joined up the same time as me. But I'm only 5'6" and 130 pounds and he's 6'8" and weighs near 300 pounds dry.

Be sure to tell Walt and Elmer to hurry and join before other fellers get onto this setup and come stampeding in.

Your loving daughter,
Tammy Gail
 
2013-03-18 08:40:49 PM

Bravo Two: Allow me to be the first to say...so farking what? They're food.


Not for me. I don't contribute to the cruel, wasteful, unsustainable meat industry.

"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian."
--Paul McCartney
 
2013-03-18 08:49:12 PM

destrip: Bravo Two: Allow me to be the first to say...so farking what? They're food.

Not for me. I don't contribute to the cruel, wasteful, unsustainable meat industry.

"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian."
--Paul McCartney


People slaughter and process their food on their own all the time.  Deer hunting is literally a rite of passage in Wisconsin.
 
2013-03-18 09:39:38 PM

destrip: "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian."
--Paul McCartney


Nah...

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2013-03-18 10:05:45 PM

Molavian: People slaughter and process their food on their own all the time. Deer hunting is literally a rite of passage in Wisconsin.


I spent January processing deer meat at my sister's house in TN.

Ground deer makes amazing tacos.
 
2013-03-18 11:50:07 PM

whither_apophis: If only cows had guns...

/bad cow pun


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2013-03-19 05:31:31 AM
While people who mistreat animals are scum and deserve what they get, the people who pass themselves off as workers and spend their time "investigating" are also being fradulent. If inspections are needed, then we need undercover inspectors, not PETA activists. It is too easy to photograph a single animal in distress, edit out the thousands of other animals not in distress, and get the plant closed down - which doesn't help the animals at all unless they were being systematically abused. The object of these people is not to get the perps brought up on charges and reduce inhumane methods, but rather to damage the meat and poultry industry as much as possible. So in that respect I understand where the industry is coming from.

No, the real issue is that the FDA is being used as a tool to shut down small farms and co-ops bringing farmer and consumer directly together. This is happening all over the US, and if you want to make serious changes, just get the FDA to allow consumers free choice as to what they buy for personal consumption. The mass produced stuff is dirtier and no cheaper once you factor in the current system requiring farmers o process through regional centers rather than be able to slaughter and prepare themselves.
 
2013-03-19 12:04:04 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: The problem with the undercover cameramen is lack of context. What appears like abuse to a guy in a Portland coffee house may be how it's suppose to be. I've butchered hogs, cattle, goats, chickens etc. Some of it looks cruel if you are clueless to it. Slaughtering livestock is not nice and tidy, nor can it be made that way


So, how many of these videos have you actually seen? Out of those, how many were of appropriate treatment miscontexualized as abuse?

I'm not saying it can't happen, but I get the feeling you're arguing against what you think might be happening rather than what actually is happening.

The "guy in a Portland coffee house" might not be your best example either, seeing as Portland is currently the center of an artesian butchering movement.
 
2013-03-19 12:06:12 PM

j0ndas: It is too easy to photograph a single animal in distress, edit out the thousands of other animals not in distress, and get the plant closed down


Is it? What plants have been closed down?
 
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