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(Daily Mail)   Man who has spent 30 years building a small farm in the Appalachian mountains faces having to tear it all down because local officials found the wood he cut and milled himself wasn't properly marked   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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2013-03-18 08:56:16 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I think the only reason the government cares at all is that he's apparently operating a day camp for kids. Which requires a license, which requires, oh, I don't know, that you meet the conditions of the license.

Either that, or this has something to do with Barack Obama taking all our freedoms. Could be either one.


THIS

If you get a license and offer to be responsible for the safety of other people's kids then you gotta play by the rules.

/Thanks Obama.
 
2013-03-18 09:33:15 AM  
This is the kind of guy idiot Fakers use the word  "bootstrappy" for.
 
2013-03-18 10:04:58 AM  
 
2013-03-18 10:09:08 AM  

JerkyMeat: Stop teaching that America is the Land of the free, home of the brave.  It's nothing but bullshiat.

We are not the greatest nation on earth, we are not free people.  The long and the short of it is, we're farked.

If you are rich, you may have an ok life, otherwise you are basically a slave.


I think that's being a little over-dramatic. Yes, the tax policies (and pretty-much everything else) in this country are skewed to benefit the rich, but that's not all that uncommon. We certainly have our problems, and there may be a few places on Earth that are slightly better, but there are a hell of a lot of places where people have it a lot worse. I'd rather be lower-middle class in America (which is very achievable) than rich in a third-world hellhole. I guess if working 40 hours a week to get a paycheck makes me a slave, then so be it. It beats the hell out of sustenance farming or assembling iPhones in a Chinese factory.
 
2013-03-18 11:00:43 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: doglover: Did you read the article? No, you didn't.

I read the article and I actually live here - no children live in this camp, you stupid f***ing dumbass.


Hey, I live nearby also.

This is direct from their own website:  Right on the front page.

2013 Summer Camp Dates

Father and Son Camp
June 14-17 , 2013
Young Boys Camp (ages 7-10)
June 23 - 29, 2013
 Adult Camp (ages 18+)
June 25 - June 29, 2013
Older Boys Camp (ages 11-17)
June 30 - July 13, 2013
Older Girls Camp (ages 12-18)
July 14 - 27, 2013
Young Girls Camp (ages 7-11)
July 14 - 20, 2013
 Family Camp (all ages)
August 1 - 7, 2013

Outside of these, he also often hosts Boy Scout retreats, and school camps.  So, yeah, he needs to bring his code up to snuff.  And he's a raging psycho - who chains their neighbors gate and tries to claim part of their property?  He's been cited with trespassing at least once.
 
2013-03-18 11:03:02 AM  
MylesHeartVodak:Outside of these, he also often hosts Boy Scout retreats, and school camps.  So, yeah, he needs to bring his code up to snuff.

I thought being up to snuff was the problem.
 
2013-03-18 11:07:07 AM  

Kensey: The thing is, yeah, they didn't have building and sanitation codes in the old days, but smart settlers were smart enough to notice things like "the water out of the Johnsons' and Biddles' wells tastes like shiat. They're sick an awful lot... maybe we ought to keep our outhouse well away from our well, just in case." Or, whether or not they noticed themselves, they had sense to listen to the old-timers who told them the best way to do things. Same thing with bad meat, rancid butter, etc. I mean a lot of it is just plain farking common sense -- if it tastes or smells like shiat, or rotten, maybe you shouldn't eat it or wash in it. But there's often a gap there between what's actually bad for you, microbially speaking, and what you can tell is bad for you.

Later on that kind of thing gets formalized and people figure out why "shiatty-smelling water = sick all the time and die a lot more". The people who survived either had really good luck, badass immune systems, or brains smart enough to live by the common-sense sanitation code before it was written down and made law.

For the most part if you're just living alone, eating your own shiat and scarfing down maggoty possum every night, the authorities couldn't care less. But if you're exposing other people unknowingly to that hazardous "lifestyle", they take a keener interest.


Yup.  To a large degree building codes are simply the hard-learned lessons of history codified.

They have occasional stupidities when they get too detailed in prescribing one answer to a hazard and precluding other approaches.  (For example, some building codes simply require two escape paths from sleeping quarters.  Others require a window or door escape path.)
 
2013-03-18 12:02:27 PM  
DIAF bureaucrats
 
2013-03-18 03:00:14 PM  
"Man who has spent 30 years building a small farm in the Appalachian mountains faces having to tear it all down because local officials found the wood he cut and milled himself wasn't properly marked taxed."

Fixed. Yer'elcome.
 
2013-03-18 08:44:32 PM  

cc_rider: If this guy wasn't running a commercial enterprise that requires all buildings to be up to code, I might be just as poutraged as subby's headline. Hopefully he can work things out with the state, and make some necessary upgrades.


If you've watched any of the programming on the Discovery channel about him, you'd know that he doesn't have any money. Any. Everything owns is handmade or from the wild, pretty much. I highly doubt he can afford to get anything up to code, and quite frankly, I don't think that "code" should really apply to him. It's not like he's in a suburban setting and he's endangering anyone else. Leave him alone and let him do his crazy woodsman thing.
 
2013-03-18 10:09:30 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: If you've watched any of the programming on the Discovery channel about him, you'd know that he doesn't have any money. Any


So there's a tv show about him and he's not getting paid for it? I thought he was just silly - now you're telling me he's pants-on-head stupid?
 
2013-03-18 11:54:26 PM  

untaken_name: Your Average Witty Fark User: If you've watched any of the programming on the Discovery channel about him, you'd know that he doesn't have any money. Any

So there's a tv show about him and he's not getting paid for it? I thought he was just silly - now you're telling me he's pants-on-head stupid?


Pardon me, wrong channel. He was on "Mountain Men" on the History channel. Don't kid yourself, the pay sucks. I know that for some of those "reality" shows, the pay could be like $500 an episode.
 
2013-03-19 01:58:17 AM  

squirrelflavoredyogurt: jso2897: squirrelflavoredyogurt: STRYPERSWINE: Thank goodness these state inspectors were here when the country was being built!  Daniel Boone could have been killed by an out of code log cabin!

Perhaps you're OK with sending your children to a "summer camp" that is a breeding ground for disease, hell you might even be OK with people being able to shiat directly into the water that's going to be coming out of your kitchen faucet, there is no accounting for taste, but I'm frankly sick and tired of idiots who want to whine about "the gubmint" checking shiat out to make sure it meets minimum safety codes.

Go ahead and keep whining, I hope you die from 7 day old road kill burger, because you know Daniel Boon and all that shiat.

The guys who say that shiat are always fat, soft white boys who would have survived about five minutes on the frontier.

Yes, because you'd have to be a fat, soft, white, male youth to want to make sure someone other than the person who's providing you with the food you're eating is safe, labeled correctly, and not bacteria ridden.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem


I think they were saying it's always that type that spouts the Daniel Boone "shiat", not the other way?
 
2013-03-19 01:14:14 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Taylor Mental: Hillbillies make awesome teevee shows.

He is pretty much the real deal. I have nothing to lose or gain by telling you this other than this guy lives in my county and I've been following him on the news. Farker doglover would hump his leg if he could.


Nah, don't get me wrong, as reality shows go his is one of the least offensive of the slew of nonsense airing on cable. I'd much rather watch him do menial farm chores than Kim Kardashian and her sister get Brazilian wax jobs while commenting on how gross each other's vaginas are. How anyone can stand to watch that shiat I'll never understand.
 
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