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2013-03-18 10:15:25 AM
Still think flight 93 was shot down to prevent collateral deaths.
 
2013-03-18 11:37:01 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Still think flight 93 Porkins was shot down to prevent collateral deaths.

 
2013-03-18 12:51:47 PM

DamnYankees: Anyone read Jon Ronson's The Psychopath Test? Very interesting chapter in that on truthers.


*blink*

I came home Saturday to find that exact book on the linen closet table by the back door; my wife had just returned from the library with it.
 
2013-03-18 01:47:02 PM

Will-Mun: I'm sure there's a book somewhere that explains Veder's official rank...


He's the lead singer for Pearl Jam.  There's ample documentation about that.
 
2013-03-18 02:39:23 PM
Quote from George Lucas in response when informed of these allegations:

"Ok, you want the TRUTH??

Kids, we live in a world that has a fictional space frontier in the distant future.  And that fictional space frontier is guarded by men in starships.

Who else is gonna do it?  You, ya basement dweller??  You, hippie??  We have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom!

You weep that Luke was a patsy and you curse the conspiracy that made him one.

You have that luxury.  You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Luke's "heroism" while unbelievable and ludicrous, DEFENDS FICTIONAL SPACE.  And that fact, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, SAVES FICTIONAL LIVES!

You don't want the truth, because deep down in places you don't talk about at Star Wars conventions, you want these heroic antics to be true.  YOU NEED them to be true!

We use words like "Jedi", "storm trooper", and "Death Star".  We use these words as a backbone of a life spent worshipping something.  You use them as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to men and women who rise and sleep under the very blanket of Space Defense that I provide and then question the manner in which I provide it!!  I would rather you just said, "Thank you," and went on your way.  Otherwise, I suggest you pick up laser rifle and shoot some swamp rats.  But either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!!"
 
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2013-03-18 02:54:53 PM
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2013-03-18 03:31:01 PM

Fano: That was one of the structural things that annoyed me about the prequels. They showed the Jedi at essentially their height. The imperial officers shown were too old to call it all a bunch of boloney, they would have seen holovids and had action figures as kids. The Jedi were an integral part of the Republic. It's like we had a revolution, and 20 years later no one believes in the judicial branch, and FBI agents are treated as myths.

Smarter would have been to set the prequels earlier (if you want the Jedi Council to be powerful and have the Purge happen sooner) with no more than 50 or so Jedi remaining as a beleaguered last hope waiting for the prophecy of the chosen one to save them by the time the prequels started. Why did the prequel council need balance to the force when they weren't even sure there was a sith at the beginning?


Of the many, many things that bothered me about the prequels, this was a big one. The whole "Jedi at their height" thing was a complete mistake - it would've been much better if they were a more reclusive order with much smaller numbers. This whole thing where they were some sort of magical Knights Templar was a poor decision on Lucas' part, as well as the celibate lifestyle and of course, midichlorians. Also, who the hell starts a series with a damn 8 year old? ANH started with Luke as a mostly fully grown teenager for a reason. Puberty is no fun for anyone, and putting it on screen as a plot point in an action movie has never worked in any movie ever.

It makes more sense for the Jedi to be mostly legendary in their own time - some sort of mystical wandering types that most people would only hear legends about, as opposed to a powerful political faction participating at the highest levels of government. Plus, the explanation of the Clone Wars was, to put it lightly, ridiculous. If you really want to show a march to imperium, model it off the damn Romans. The Tragedy of Julius Caesar is a classic for a reason and it would be easy to slot Palpatine in as Mark Antony. Plus, Phillipi and the Anthony/Octavian battles that followed give you your Clone Wars (with suitable modification). It's not like Lucas hasn't completely ripped off good ideas in the past.
 
2013-03-18 04:19:31 PM

phyrkrakr: Fano: That was one of the structural things that annoyed me about the prequels. They showed the Jedi at essentially their height. The imperial officers shown were too old to call it all a bunch of boloney, they would have seen holovids and had action figures as kids. The Jedi were an integral part of the Republic. It's like we had a revolution, and 20 years later no one believes in the judicial branch, and FBI agents are treated as myths.

Smarter would have been to set the prequels earlier (if you want the Jedi Council to be powerful and have the Purge happen sooner) with no more than 50 or so Jedi remaining as a beleaguered last hope waiting for the prophecy of the chosen one to save them by the time the prequels started. Why did the prequel council need balance to the force when they weren't even sure there was a sith at the beginning?

Of the many, many things that bothered me about the prequels, this was a big one. The whole "Jedi at their height" thing was a complete mistake - it would've been much better if they were a more reclusive order with much smaller numbers. This whole thing where they were some sort of magical Knights Templar was a poor decision on Lucas' part, as well as the celibate lifestyle and of course, midichlorians. Also, who the hell starts a series with a damn 8 year old? ANH started with Luke as a mostly fully grown teenager for a reason. Puberty is no fun for anyone, and putting it on screen as a plot point in an action movie has never worked in any movie ever.

It makes more sense for the Jedi to be mostly legendary in their own time - some sort of mystical wandering types that most people would only hear legends about, as opposed to a powerful political faction participating at the highest levels of government. Plus, the explanation of the Clone Wars was, to put it lightly, ridiculous. If you really want to show a march to imperium, model it off the damn Romans. The Tragedy of Julius Caesar is a classic for a reason and it would be easy to slot Palpatine in as Mark Antony. Plus, Phillipi and the Anthony/Octavian battles that followed give you your Clone Wars (with suitable modification). It's not like Lucas hasn't completely ripped off good ideas in the past.


*high five*

And BTW, to shut up the claim "but they were really rare, even at the end of the Republic by using the population of the galaxy," in the Phantom Menace, on the planet Tattoine, described by Luke as the farthest planet from anything interesting, a little boy named Anakin knows exactly what a light saber looks like, and what Jedi are. Well maybe because the Force works in mysterious ways. But then Watto knows all about Jedi and their mind tricks. Ergo, most everyone knew about Jedi.

(I give Jabba a pass in ROTJ because his resistance to mind tricks sounds like the sort of thing an old gangster prepared against do gooders might learn)
 
2013-03-18 04:41:24 PM
He said Aldebaran.  Which is funny considering that Alde is actually a town in the game Raganarok Online.

Other than that gaffe, it was a rather well put together video. Bravo.
 
2013-03-18 05:37:15 PM

Fano: phyrkrakr: Fano: That was one of the structural things that annoyed me about the prequels.  ...


Dang it all.  I agree with all that you guys have written.
When I was a 8yo kid watching the first movie (New Hope) I believed that Obiwan was the first clone of a Jedi who's initials where O.B. (OB-1).  He either didn't know or had forgotten due to his long solitude in the desert, that he wasn't the original.  Even that pathetic plot twist would have been more interesting than what Lucas pulled out.
 
2013-03-18 08:28:16 PM

MonoChango: Fano: phyrkrakr: Fano: That was one of the structural things that annoyed me about the prequels.  ...

Dang it all.  I agree with all that you guys have written.
When I was a 8yo kid watching the first movie (New Hope) I believed that Obiwan was the first clone of a Jedi who's initials where O.B. (OB-1).  He either didn't know or had forgotten due to his long solitude in the desert, that he wasn't the original.  Even that pathetic plot twist would have been more interesting than what Lucas pulled out.


I've mentioned before that as a kid, my buddies agreed that the stormtroopers were all Jedi that Vader had turned, That didn't make a lick of sense either, but maybe as much as having them all be clones of Boba Fett's dad. So I know from crazy ideas about Star Wars.
 
2013-03-18 08:55:11 PM
This film fails to mention that both Anakin & Luke Skywalker were involved in an isolationist religious cult that revolves around the use of force. Once again the Jedi controlled media are lying to you through omission.
 
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