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(Reuters)   Evil defense contractor develops graphene membrane that makes it vastly less expensive to filter water for drinking   (reuters.com) divider line 104
    More: Cool, Graphene, biological membrane, defense contractors, reverse osmosis, desalination, billionths, filtration, Lockheed Martin  
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2013-03-17 06:39:13 PM  
Wow... Those people will have all the salt they'll ever need....
 
2013-03-17 07:37:53 PM  
Why evil?
 
2013-03-17 07:54:29 PM  
As a sometimes defense contractor who develops systems to protect servicemen and women, I would like to take this opportunity to tell subby to get bent.
 
2013-03-17 07:56:10 PM  
The environmentalists will be against this because when you suck up seawater you might accidentally kill some fish.

http://www.waterworld.com/articles/2009/10/seawater-desalination.htm l
 
2013-03-17 07:59:39 PM  

lordargent: The environmentalists will be against this because when you suck up seawater you might accidentally kill some fish.

http://www.waterworld.com/articles/2009/10/seawater-desalination.htm l


Yeah, and there are billionaires who hate the idea that some poor might receive benefits they aren't entitled to. Assholes abound.

This is a useful technology. Zip your ideology back up.
 
2013-03-17 08:00:21 PM  

edmo: Why evil?


He was just being snarky - I hope.

Because if he wasn't it means that subby is a Leftist/Liberal/Democrat/eco-terrorist who thinks that Mankind must be obliterated because it is a disease crawling across the face the Earth killing Gaia in the process.
 
2013-03-17 08:00:50 PM  

edmo: Why evil?


10/10. You'll reel in a trophy-sized 60's relic with that one. Your work is simple and elegant. Well done.
 
2013-03-17 08:00:55 PM  
Cool. Now the human population can grow even larger in numbers.

/We'll go extinct in no time.
 
2013-03-17 08:04:45 PM  
AirForceVet:

Cool. Now the human population can grow even larger in numbers.

/We'll go extinct in no time.


This is something even your children can use.
 
2013-03-17 08:09:08 PM  

edmo: Why evil?


Because Subby is attempting to be funni.
 
2013-03-17 08:09:45 PM  

maxheck: As a sometimes defense contractor who develops systems to protect servicemen and women, I would like to take this opportunity to tell subby to get bent.


I'm pretty sure subby is mocking the people who call defense contractors evil.  Especially since those people rarely do anything to make the world better for anyone besides themselves.
 
2013-03-17 08:10:16 PM  

maxheck: AirForceVet:

Cool. Now the human population can grow even larger in numbers.

/We'll go extinct in no time.

This is something even your children can use.




We can use this right now.
Less draining from the water table, more water for costal communities.
This kind of thing could green up alot of places.
 
2013-03-17 08:11:15 PM  
thanks, Obama
 
2013-03-17 08:11:38 PM  
They is smart.
 
2013-03-17 08:11:50 PM  

maxheck: As a sometimes defense contractor who develops systems to protect servicemen and women, I would like to take this opportunity to tell subby to get bent.


Yeah, my company makes naval-mine clearing devices and use a specialized welding system to make humvees resist IED blasts as well as an MRAP
 
2013-03-17 08:22:18 PM  

maxheck: As a sometimes defense contractor who develops systems to protect servicemen and women, I would like to take this opportunity to tell subby to get bent.


As a card-carrying member of the MIC and regular second tier to LM, NG and SAIC, I second this. I'm not evil, I'm just devious and crafty.
 
2013-03-17 08:24:51 PM  

erewhon: maxheck: As a sometimes defense contractor who develops systems to protect servicemen and women, I would like to take this opportunity to tell subby to get bent.

As a card-carrying member of the MIC and regular second tier to LM, NG and SAIC, I second this. I'm not evil, I'm just devious and crafty.


Nice to see you again.  I feel safer with you around.
 
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2013-03-17 08:27:59 PM  
Yeah, they claim to have invented the RO membrane and will price it so high that only the DOD will be able to afford it.  Just a guess.
 
2013-03-17 08:28:47 PM  
The evil defense contractor part comes from the fact that the thing is so complex that the people they're selling it to can't possibly build their own, but it's so effective that they'll become dependent on it and forget about traditional purification methods.  It's the humanitarian version of drug dealing.

/ no seriously, good job though.
 
2013-03-17 08:29:03 PM  
Time until it's used to isolate poisonous agents instead of filter water.....probably already been done.
 
2013-03-17 08:29:35 PM  

erewhon: maxheck: As a sometimes defense contractor who develops systems to protect servicemen and women, I would like to take this opportunity to tell subby to get bent.

As a card-carrying member of the MIC and regular second tier to LM, NG and SAIC, I second this. I'm not evil, I'm just devious and crafty.


How do you feel about the BYOB and the BBQ?
 
2013-03-17 08:31:21 PM  
Defense contractors gave me pink eye.

They're assholes.
 
2013-03-17 08:32:58 PM  
Evil defense contractors didn't spend five years getting Evil Engineering degrees to be known simply as "contractors".
 
2013-03-17 08:33:20 PM  
Excellent. Now we can go forward with our plans for the Arabian Peninsula....

/LockMart will prosper
 
2013-03-17 08:33:25 PM  

AirForceVet: Cool. Now the human population can grow even larger in numbers.

/We'll go extinct in no time.


Fun fact: the most successful method for reducing birth rates in a country is to turn its poor people into middle class people. If we could figure out a way to raise the standard of living for the world's poor up to a middle class American/European standards of living, population growth would probably flatline all by itself. The problem, of course, is that by attaining such a standard of living, their resource and energy consumption would go through the roof, so we'd need to figure out ways to use resources more smartly, or start extracting resources outside of the Earth like near-Earth asteroids.

In the end, it all comes down to energy, though. If someone ever cracks economical fusion reactors, the human race winds up with a crazy amount of energy that it can use for either growing the population, or extracting more resources for the existing population to become more wealthy.  Nothing about physics says it is impossible, so it remains a simple engineering problem that will probably eventually get worked out given enough time.
 
2013-03-17 08:34:07 PM  
So, dollar for dollar... Which one has led to more scientific advances, the military or the space program?
 
2013-03-17 08:38:43 PM  

serial_crusher: erewhon: maxheck: As a sometimes defense contractor who develops systems to protect servicemen and women, I would like to take this opportunity to tell subby to get bent.

As a card-carrying member of the MIC and regular second tier to LM, NG and SAIC, I second this. I'm not evil, I'm just devious and crafty.

How do you feel about the BYOB and the BBQ?


I like them better than ONI and AFOSI.
 
2013-03-17 08:39:37 PM  

douchebag/hater: He was just being snarky - I hope.


Yes, I'm assuming it's because evil defense contractors are usually perfecting baby-killing technology and would never produce something that could save lives.

Most of the time life-saving technology is just a happy accident on the way to perfecting baby-killing technology.
 
2013-03-17 08:39:55 PM  

erveek: So, dollar for dollar... Which one has led to more scientific advances, the military or the space program?


Probably the military, even if just for investing heavily in creating computers, which we likely wouldn't have had a space program without.
 
2013-03-17 08:42:19 PM  

Mad_Radhu: so we'd need to figure out ways to use resources more smartly, or start extracting resources outside of the Earth like near-Earth asteroids.


One of the more amusing things that R. Buckminster Fuller wrote about, was that we could probably elevate most of the world to the equivalent of a first world standard of living from 1965, using 1965 material availability, if we would just let engineers figure out the most efficient and affective way of using materials and energy.
 
2013-03-17 08:43:00 PM  

AirForceVet: Cool. Now the human population can grow even larger in numbers.

/We'll go extinct in no time.


You're lagging behind. Now the worry is that the population isn't growing fast enough, worldwide.

https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp _p op_grow&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=world%20population%20growth

Keep up.
 
2013-03-17 08:46:46 PM  
there's no lack of water on the Earth, its just not where we need it and most of it is brackish or to salty. This discovery is a huge advancement for mankind, maybe Lockheed would consider open sourcing this selling enough to cover cpsts but otherwise let the world have it. Spin off a nonprofit to implement it world wide.Stop laughing, the invention is a miracle itself, sharing it is the easy part.
 
2013-03-17 08:55:59 PM  
To be honest, I *AM* an evil defense contractor. I'm just not entirely irredeemable.

This is cool stuff. Water is going to be one of the biggest challenges in the coming decades.
 
2013-03-17 08:59:14 PM  
I have no problem with beating swords into plowshares.
All the DCs should be using those big brains to that end.
 
2013-03-17 08:59:21 PM  

maxheck: To be honest, I *AM* an evil defense contractor. I'm just not entirely irredeemable.

This is cool stuff. Water is going to be one of the biggest challenges in the coming decades.


There are quite a few of us on Fark, the population turns over slowly with time. Fark used to have some CIA guys too, but I haven't seen any for quite a while.
 
2013-03-17 09:03:38 PM  
The shrapnel gave them a new perspective

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-17 09:06:56 PM  
My brother is a defense contractor. He works for a branch of the University of Maryland on a base in Japan.

/not all DCs are Halliburton/Raytheon mooks, subby...
 
2013-03-17 09:11:24 PM  

Flint Ironstag: Wow... Those people will have all the salt they'll ever need....


Does nobody get the reference? Do I really have to put /Obscure after it?
 
2013-03-17 09:13:17 PM  

erewhon: maxheck: To be honest, I *AM* an evil defense contractor. I'm just not entirely irredeemable.

This is cool stuff. Water is going to be one of the biggest challenges in the coming decades.

There are quite a few of us on Fark, the population turns over slowly with time. Fark used to have some CIA guys too, but I haven't seen any for quite a while.



"In the coming decades?" Water is one of our biggest challenges right now.
 
2013-03-17 09:13:47 PM  

germ78: ...Raytheon mooks, subby...


Whoa, whoa, whoa there. You watch your whore mouth. Raytheon kicks ass in fighter radar. Plus they've got really cool spinoffs of AESA like Vigilant Eagle. There is very little as cool as a high CW output solid-state phased array HPM weapon system.

/GaAs FTW
 
2013-03-17 09:20:31 PM  

erveek: So, dollar for dollar... Which one has led to more scientific advances, the military or the space program?


It's funny because until relatively recently, those were the same thing.
 
2013-03-17 09:25:26 PM  

erewhon: Fark used to have some CIA guys too, but I haven't seen any for quite a while.


Nobody who works for them would tie that fact to a fark account. Data mining is just too easy these days.  (unless we are talking about the hr clerks and random other minion level admin/service staff)

/does not work for them
//stayed at a holiday in express last night
 
2013-03-17 09:32:36 PM  

The WindowLicker: erewhon: Fark used to have some CIA guys too, but I haven't seen any for quite a while.

Nobody who works for them would tie that fact to a fark account. Data mining is just too easy these days.  (unless we are talking about the hr clerks and random other minion level admin/service staff)

/does not work for them
//stayed at a holiday in express last night


Actually, he was (then) recently retired. But it's been since maybe 2004 that I've seen him out here - Covert Comic was his nom de Farque.

Speaking of data mining, the DIA caught a bunch of us in 2004 posting on old dead threads - back then, threads never closed, so we staked out an old dead thread and used it as a contractor data/story exchange. Until one day I asked someone to grab me something off of the other internet because I was on the road, and they went to town combing all the old threads.

It wasn't pretty. Still, it's better than someone I won't name who posted a screen cap of their Intelink-S home page. Wow, that pissed them right off.
 
2013-03-17 09:39:19 PM  
The company is looking for partners in the filter manufacturing arena to help it commercialize Perforene as a filter in the 2014-2015 time frame, he said.

HOLY CRAP that is quick

Lockheed officials see other applications for Perforene as well, from dialysis in healthcare to cleaning chemicals from the water used in hydraulic fracturing, or "fracking," of oil and gas wells.

HOLY CRAP that is awesome!
 
2013-03-17 09:42:19 PM  
The perforene membrane solds wonderful. Will save survivalist TV show hosts from drinking their own piss, too.

However...

Being a Debby Downer, what is their plan for dealing with the salty brine that's filtered out? If you just dump that as a point source into the ocean, you'll do ecological and perhaps meteorological damage.
 
2013-03-17 09:46:57 PM  

Any Pie Left: The perforene membrane solds wonderful. Will save survivalist TV show hosts from drinking their own piss, too.

However...

Being a Debby Downer, what is their plan for dealing with the salty brine that's filtered out? If you just dump that as a point source into the ocean, you'll do ecological and perhaps meteorological damage.


Sell it to hipsters as organic sea salt.
 
2013-03-17 09:50:29 PM  

Any Pie Left: Being a Debby Downer, what is their plan for dealing with the salty brine that's filtered out? If you just dump that as a point source into the ocean, you'll do ecological and perhaps meteorological damage.


meh
I am WAY too lazy to even pretend to do the math. BUT, I wonder how much water you would have to filter to have a measurable effect on the ocean.
No really.
Compared to daily salinity fluctuations.
PLUS, put the output pipe low enough in the ocean and well, nothing will happen.

people are MORE upset about the INPUT pipe hurting things while you are sucking in the water ...
 
2013-03-17 09:54:46 PM  
 

Flint Ironstag: Flint Ironstag: Wow... Those people will have all the salt they'll ever need....

Does nobody get the reference? Do I really have to put /Obscure after it?


we're all off surfing nicaragua with Lazlo.
 
2013-03-17 10:07:54 PM  
Assholes abound.

I always though of maybe having a bunch of desalination plants on the shores of arid places, run them on wind and solar energy and pump that water inland.

But then I realized, some asshole warlord would just blow them up. If the people aren't hungry and thirsty you can't dominate them. Well fed people won't put up with that warlord shiat.
 
2013-03-17 10:09:24 PM  

Girion47: Any Pie Left: The perforene membrane solds wonderful. Will save survivalist TV show hosts from drinking their own piss, too.

However...

Being a Debby Downer, what is their plan for dealing with the salty brine that's filtered out? If you just dump that as a point source into the ocean, you'll do ecological and perhaps meteorological damage.

Sell it to hipsters as organic sea salt.


If I wasn't on the Fark Android app I would funny button this.

/lol would guffaw again
 
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