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(NESN)   Bears RB Matt Forte not happy with NFL proposal that would ban running backs from lowering their head to initiate contact   (nesn.com) divider line 53
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2013-03-17 04:02:07 PM
Ridiculous idea. Walter Payton would have had no career without this (as would no great running back)

Lets just quit having an NFL if all you want to do is ruin the game.
 
2013-03-17 04:07:56 PM
Yeah, it's going to be a stupid rule that will end the running game more than they already have.

/might as well just get them some flag belts
 
2013-03-17 04:46:26 PM
He's right. This is absurd. Most of these owners proposing the stupid rule changes have never played the game themselves.
 
2013-03-17 05:21:46 PM
Sounds like a great way for RBs to get their necks broken. Stupid rule is stupid. The NFL and Subby are the dumbasses here.
 
2013-03-17 05:24:15 PM
Nobody except doe eyed hand wringing safety mavens caused or are even for this
 
2013-03-17 05:25:13 PM
Didn't we just have this thread about Emmitt?
 
2013-03-17 05:33:39 PM
Having a RB leave there head up for the taking seems more like putting them at greater risk than protecting them.  I don't think the rule was properly through.
 
2013-03-17 05:37:48 PM
I've never played running back, but I played LB and when I saw a RB NOT lower his head, I salivated.

Not only would it make for 1000x more fumbles, it would mean RBs after RBs would get obliterated.

Like Emmitt said...this is a rule that people like Peter King would come up with.

Put player reps on the Competition Committee or stick to rule changes that are focused on game administration and penalty enforcement.
 
2013-03-17 05:44:57 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-17 05:49:20 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-17 05:52:08 PM

basemetal: Yeah, it's going to be a stupid rule that will end the running game more than they already have.

/might as well just get them some flag belts


And dresses.
 
2013-03-17 05:53:59 PM
So defensive players can't lead with their head, but offensive players can?

#SeemsLegit
 
2013-03-17 06:02:11 PM

Brubold: Sounds like a great way for RBs to get their necks broken. Stupid rule is stupid. The NFL and Subby are the dumbasses here.

 
2013-03-17 06:10:19 PM
Tag is for NFL, right?
 
2013-03-17 06:16:12 PM
So.... how are they going to lower their shoulder?

/something something lingerie football league.
//opening day of baseball can't get here quick enough
///NHL getting ready to move up the ranks of major sports
 
2013-03-17 06:30:24 PM
This is the kind of foolishness you get when you let folks that've never played a down of football in their lives debate 'the game'.

Look, you candy-ass biatches. If you're serious about safety, add manadatory padding to the OUTside of helmets and make it crystal clear that nobody every takes a snap with the old helmets again ever.

You're finished not. You can go home. We just eliminated 99% of the issue. Get rid of farking crackback blocks and pick up a hooker on the way home, you've earned it.
 
2013-03-17 06:41:01 PM
It's a dumb rule.  It's also a dumb rule that a LB can be flagged for "helmet to helmet" contact for a hit that happens when both players lower their heads.  Any hits that happen within 4'6" of the ground should be legal.  That's just the game.  Otherwise it's just a matter of time until the NFL becomes the NFFL (National Flag Football League).
 
2013-03-17 06:50:58 PM

CreativeFarkHandle: Having a RB leave there head up for the taking seems more like putting them at greater risk than protecting them.  I don't think the rule was properly through.


Sounds like someone has taken a few shots to the head.
 
2013-03-17 07:10:04 PM
Looks like too-safe play...

...isn't his forte!

/I was the first one to make a pun?
//for shame, Fark, for shame!
///slashies!!
 
2013-03-17 07:54:40 PM
get rid of helmets and the game would be much safer
 
2013-03-17 07:54:41 PM
Matt Forte upset he can no longer Bear Down.


/Seriously, this is the headline they went with?
//Forte is right.
///Why can't football be dangerous?
 
2013-03-17 07:57:44 PM
Ok... so we are going to ban a natural reaction, lowering your head, to protect yourself before being hit? Got it
 
2013-03-17 07:57:56 PM
This is like telling a boxer to keep his chin up.
 
2013-03-17 07:59:53 PM
 
2013-03-17 08:14:18 PM
Hey idiots on the competition comittee, taking one on the crown of your head is less damging than taking a hit on the chin or in the neck. I know those of you who have never played football wouldn't understand that.
 
2013-03-17 08:14:24 PM
I think the stiffarm is something that should be banned. Anyone besides the guy with the ball does it, it's a 10 or 15 yard penalty. A running back slams his hand in someone's facemask, it's awesome.
 
2013-03-17 08:14:55 PM
So.. the RB is NOT supposed to brace for a hit by dropping his shoulders (and, thereby, his head), with the result being totally defenseless RB's who will get drilled by defenders who *will* be dropping *their* shoulders (and, thereby, their heads) to make the tackle? And this promotes safety how?
 
2013-03-17 08:16:16 PM

TheMaskedArmadillo: Emmitt Smith says the same thing...

http://www.nbcdfw.com/blogs/blue-star/Emmitt-Smith-is-Not-a-Fan-of-P ro posed-Rule-Change-198529941.html


He probably thinks too many RB's will get debacled.
 
2013-03-17 08:19:49 PM
New rule: Everyone but the quarterback has to keep their eyes closed the entire time they have the ball.
 
2013-03-17 08:23:29 PM

funktilious_j: I think the stiffarm is something that should be banned. Anyone besides the guy with the ball does it, it's a 10 or 15 yard penalty. A running back slams his hand in someone's facemask, it's awesome.


Actually this isn't true... ball carriers can be called for facemasking. They are not allowed to grasp or pull on the facemask of a defender
 
2013-03-17 08:31:16 PM
Off topic, does free agency take weekends off?
 
2013-03-17 08:40:06 PM
Meanwhile, 33 year old Brian Westbrook is suffering from memory loss. Not thrilled with this proposed rule but they have to start making changes or the NFL will be gone in 50 years.
 
2013-03-17 08:51:13 PM

bigtotoro: Meanwhile, 33 year old Brian Westbrook is suffering from memory loss. Not thrilled with this proposed rule but they have to start making changes or the NFL will be gone in 50 years.


He was stupid to start with.
 
2013-03-17 09:01:20 PM

bigtotoro: Meanwhile, 33 year old Brian Westbrook is suffering from memory loss. Not thrilled with this proposed rule but they have to start making changes or the NFL will be gone in 50 10 years.


It'll happen faster than you think. An NFL player will have a paralyzing injury, or die on the field, and youth football will evaporate overnight as parents pull their kids, and high schools kill it because they can't afford the insurance.

Without feeder programs, the NFL dies a quick death, and the owners' billions wouldn't be able to do a thing to fix it.
 
2013-03-17 09:02:56 PM
I think the rule is about RBs attacking defenders with their helmets not bracing for hits
 
2013-03-17 09:12:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9y_KZwOq9g

Earl Campbell laughs at the pussies running the NFL today.
 
2013-03-17 09:31:17 PM

beerrun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9y_KZwOq9g

Earl Campbell laughs at the pussies running the NFL today.


Andre waters would laugh too, but he died due to concussions
 
2013-03-17 09:44:46 PM

MugzyBrown: I think the rule is about RBs attacking defenders with their helmets not bracing for hits


This. NFL is trying to cover their asses, and probably rightfully so
 
2013-03-17 10:14:05 PM
I've noticed the commercial that the NFL was running last season talking about how the game was "improved" over time.  At a certain point, it's not football anymore.
 
2013-03-18 01:45:05 AM
It's been said before.

Take the damn pads off, give them soft helmets and watch as these guys learn to tackle without spearing or headhunting.
 
2013-03-18 02:00:09 AM
AP injures so many freaking players with his 'head down' technique.  Defenders can't spear him, but he can spear them - that totally makes sense.
 
2013-03-18 02:37:15 AM

upndn: So.... how are they going to lower their shoulder?


The  same way defensive players do when making a tackle, without driving the crown of the helmet into another players head.

Coach_J: Like Emmitt said...this is a rule that people like Peter King would come up with.


Or lawyers, doctors and players charged with trying to keep the game financially viable. The NFL doesn't do much without considering all it's ramifications.

Also, defensive players said much the same thing as Emmitt last year.  The game did not fall apart
The game needs to evolve a bit if it's going to continue. If decreasing youth involvement is a trend, football might slide from it's #1 spot.


Not sure where the national numbers from this article same from.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/165004946.html
 Even more worrisome, he added, is that the program's entry-level teams -- focused on third-graders, and meant to give players and parents a first taste of the sport -- have had some of the largest drop-offs.
Even if other factors are in play, administrators agree the concussion concerns are not helping. In Eagan, the $80,000-a-year youth football program had 523 participants in 2010, 497 players a year ago and will have 450 players this fall. "[In] third grade, we're seeing it the most," Ken LaChance, the president of the Eagan Athletic Association, said of the falling participation.
The statistics are similar nationally. Overall football participation for all age groups decreased from 10.1 million in 2006 to 9 million in 2011, according to the National Sporting Goods Association.
The number of high school boys playing 11-man football decreased slightly in both 2009-10 and 2010-11 after 16 consecutive years of growth, according to the National Federation of State High School Associations.
 
2013-03-18 03:21:09 AM

DeathByGeekSquad: AP injures so many freaking players with his 'head down' technique.  Defenders can't spear him, but he can spear them - that totally makes sense.


Yeah, he should keep his chin up so he can take it on the jaw. Makes total sense.
 
2013-03-18 06:23:50 AM

xaks: This is the kind of foolishness you get when you let folks that've never played a down of football in their lives debate 'the game'.

Look, you candy-ass biatches. If you're serious about safety, add manadatory padding to the OUTside of helmets and make it crystal clear that nobody every takes a snap with the old helmets again ever.

You're finished not. You can go home. We just eliminated 99% of the issue. Get rid of farking crackback blocks and pick up a hooker on the way home, you've earned it.


They've tried exterior padding. It leads to far more injuries. Think about it- the soft padding is a far less slick surface than the hard and polished helmet. So what happens? People get their heads wrenched around every time anything contacts their helmet. It's like every hit involves a face ask.

A better change would be to cut helmets entirely.
 
2013-03-18 08:39:01 AM

muck4doo: Yeah, he should keep his chin up so he can take it on the jaw. Makes total sense.


Can you read?

It's not about a RB lowering his pads to brace for a hit.

This only applies outside of the tackle-box.  It's for when a RB is on the sideline and he sees a little DB coming to make a play and the RB lowers his helmet to attack the DB.
 
2013-03-18 08:58:32 AM
Just what the NFL needs, more penalty flags. A runner lowering his head as he's about to be tackled is almost instinct. It will mean a lot of penalties until runners unlearn it.
 
2013-03-18 09:00:07 AM
Both offensive and defensive players shouldn't be able to lower their heads or both should be able to.  It doesn't make sense and it isn't fair to allow it on only one side of the ball.
 
2013-03-18 09:33:40 AM
That guy is overrated
 
2013-03-18 01:34:00 PM
It should just be two-hand-touch, and we should stop keeping score.

Anybody who thinks this is a good idea should have to take 30 carries against an NFL linebacker without lowering their shoulders to take the hit. Shiat, I wasn't anywhere near NFL caliber when I played linebacker and I would have been wrecking people if this rule was in effect.
 
2013-03-18 04:43:02 PM
Whelp, looks like I'll be carrying 6 RBs on my fantasy football team.
 
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