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(Telegraph)   Although the sequester forced Obama to cease White House tours for the first time in history, his PAC wants to make sure access to the president is available at the grassroots level for a measly $500K   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 97
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2013-03-17 12:50:34 PM
It's $50,000:

At the two-day kick-off event last week for the new OFA's founding summit, attended by 75 folks for the "bargain" rate of just $50,000, Obama at least acknowledged the concerns raised by others about the funding, purpose and influence of the organisation.

But it's still a bizarre comparison. Oh, wait:

Mark McKinnon, a former Republican strategist who worked on the campaigns of George W Bush and John McCain, is cofounder of No Labels, a non-profit organisation dedicated to bipartisanship, civil discourse and problem solving in politics
 
2013-03-17 01:09:26 PM
I bet the lobsterback Whitehouse tours in 1812 were short and sweet (at least for the King)
 
2013-03-17 01:09:35 PM
Do you mean to say a politician will appear in front of a group of people that give him money?

This has never happened before in the history of this country.  I for one am outraged!
 
2013-03-17 01:16:08 PM
If I understand correctly, the white house tours were given by unpaid volunteers.  It's organized under a person who makes $100k, who still has her job.  Security provided by SS agents, who are reassigned not fired.

So shutting down white house tours saved the guv'ment $0.
 
2013-03-17 01:26:47 PM

Snotnose: So shutting down white house tours saved the guv'ment $0.


Do you have proof of that?

Oh who am I kidding, of course you don't.
 
2013-03-17 01:35:00 PM

St_Francis_P: It's $50,000:

At the two-day kick-off event last week for the new OFA's founding summit, attended by 75 folks for the "bargain" rate of just $50,000, Obama at least acknowledged the concerns raised by others about the funding, purpose and influence of the organisation.

But it's still a bizarre comparison. Oh, wait:

Mark McKinnon, a former Republican strategist who worked on the campaigns of George W Bush and John McCain, is cofounder of No Labels, a non-profit organisation dedicated to bipartisanship, civil discourse and problem solving in politics


Because if a Republican said the sky was blue it couldn't possibly be true:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/03/07/organizing-fo r- action-fundraising-slow-start/1971161/

The complaints grew louder after news reports emerged of the group offering quarterly meetings with the president to contributors who gave or collected $500,000 each.
 
2013-03-17 01:39:25 PM

St_Francis_P: It's $50,000:

At the two-day kick-off event last week for the new OFA's founding summit, attended by 75 folks for the "bargain" rate of just $50,000, Obama at least acknowledged the concerns raised by others about the funding, purpose and influence of the organisation.

But it's still a bizarre comparison. Oh, wait:

Mark McKinnon, a former Republican strategist who worked on the campaigns of George W Bush and John McCain, is cofounder of No Labels, a non-profit organisation dedicated to bipartisanship, civil discourse and problem solving in politics


A few more:

Here's one from those notorious right-wingers at Mother Jones:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/02/common-cause-obama-shut-down -o rganizing-for-action

LA Times:

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/14/news/la-pn-ofa-solicits-high -d ollar-bundlers-20130214

New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/23/us/politics/obamas-backers-seek-de ep -pockets-to-press-agenda.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Slate:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/03/13/fake_obama_transparency _f or_everybody.html
 
2013-03-17 01:40:06 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Do you mean to say a politician will appear in front of a group of people that give him money?

This has never happened before in the history of this country.  I for one am outraged!


Public appearance /= private meeting.
 
2013-03-17 01:54:05 PM

St_Francis_P: It's $50,000:

At the two-day kick-off event last week for the new OFA's founding summit, attended by 75 folks for the "bargain" rate of just $50,000, Obama at least acknowledged the concerns raised by others about the funding, purpose and influence of the organisation.

But it's still a bizarre comparison. Oh, wait:

Mark McKinnon, a former Republican strategist who worked on the campaigns of George W Bush and John McCain, is cofounder of No Labels, a non-profit organisation dedicated to bipartisanship, civil discourse and problem solving in politics


Bipartisanship, the Republican way: agree with me or else.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-03-17 01:55:06 PM
So how's that opposition to campaign finance reform working out for you GOP?
 
2013-03-17 01:59:21 PM
Separate things are separate.

See "Apples and Oranges".
 
2013-03-17 02:05:34 PM

joshiz: Separate things are separate.

See "Apples and Oranges".


Obama must have gotten his earliest political training from the Colorado Springs City Council. Every time he's afraid he's not going to get his way he threatens to or actually does something punitive: Gramma won't get her Medicaid check. We have to shut down White House tours.

Every election cycle the city council here wants more money for something no one wants -- mill levy increase to waste more cash in District 11. A huge luxurious office building for the utility board. An unnecessary new jail.

If they don't get it, they immediately padlock all the bathrooms in city parks.

Not making this up.
 
2013-03-17 02:16:10 PM
Since the sequester cuts are across the board, they have to come from somewhere. Maybe it is a bit of politicking but so what? The sequester is designed to be punitive. It's punishing the House for not being realistic and passing real reform.
 
2013-03-17 02:23:31 PM
Buying access to politicians of any party and at any level is most definitely something to be worried about.

Whining about White House tours is stupid.

But, of course, those are what have just been cancelled. Meanwhile, three calligraphers reportedly remain on staff. I suppose their services are needed for the special hand-lettered, gold-foiled invitations sent to the nobles who are willing to pay for an audience with the King.

Grow up.  Seriously, shiat like this plays to the teabaggers if that's what your going for, but normal people just think your being a twit.  Way to stop me from taking you seriously.
 
2013-03-17 02:30:01 PM

joshiz: The sequester is designed to be punitive. It's punishing the House for not being realistic and passing real reform.


How exactly does it punish the House to keep civilians from touring the White House? (Which, by the way, was conducted by volunteers.)
 
2013-03-17 02:36:08 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Whining about White House tours is stupid.


It has worked quite nicely as specific proof that the sequester hurts everyone though, hasn't it?  After all, the GOP hasn't been able to stop talking about it, in between breaks where they declare that nothing is bad about the sequester anyway.
 
2013-03-17 02:36:28 PM

Sensei Can You See: How exactly does it punish the House to keep civilians from touring the White House?


You're probably right - it doesn't make a lot of sense. But canceling the tours doesn't mean anything beyond that. They have to cut somewhere and that got culled.
 
2013-03-17 02:38:14 PM
 

Lionel Mandrake: Whining about White House tours is stupid.


i.imgur.com

Sensei Can You See: Public appearance /= private meeting.


Politicians have private meetings with people who donate them money all the time.  This is not an Obama exclusive phenomena.
 
2013-03-17 02:47:51 PM

Sensei Can You See: joshiz: Separate things are separate.

See "Apples and Oranges".

Obama must have gotten his earliest political training from the Colorado Springs City Council. Every time he's afraid he's not going to get his way he threatens to or actually does something punitive: Gramma won't get her Medicaid check. We have to shut down White House tours.

Every election cycle the city council here wants more money for something no one wants -- mill levy increase to waste more cash in District 11. A huge luxurious office building for the utility board. An unnecessary new jail.

If they don't get it, they immediately padlock all the bathrooms in city parks.

Not making this up.


In fairness the first paragraph is totally made up.
 
2013-03-17 02:48:42 PM

joshiz: Sensei Can You See: How exactly does it punish the House to keep civilians from touring the White House?

You're probably right - it doesn't make a lot of sense. But canceling the tours doesn't mean anything beyond that. They have to cut somewhere and that got culled.


They could cancel one state dinner and save enough to fund White House tours for years -- they're conducted by volunteers, for heaven's sake.

This is Obama's way of telling voters he's only screwing them because the mean ol' GOP made him.
 
2013-03-17 02:54:04 PM
I hear you but I don't think it works like that... as I said before, separate things are separate.

Is this a bit of politics? Absolutely.

But don't make it more than what it is.
 
2013-03-17 02:57:15 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Snotnose: So shutting down white house tours saved the guv'ment $0.

Do you have proof of that?

Oh who am I kidding, of course you don't.



Some AM radio moron or Fox moron told their listening morons, so it must be true.
 
2013-03-17 03:15:13 PM
Author guilty of projection, throwing stones in the glassiest of all houses.
 
2013-03-17 03:32:09 PM
 
2013-03-17 03:33:11 PM
Essential services like White House Tours are an inseparable component of our national security apparatus. Why do they hate America?
 
2013-03-17 03:44:29 PM

Sensei Can You See: How exactly does it punish the House to keep civilians from touring the White House?


Seriously?

Considering all the things that have been cut, the thing that gets your goat is the cancellation of White House tours?

What the hell is wrong with you?
 
2013-03-17 03:49:32 PM

eraser8: Sensei Can You See: How exactly does it punish the House to keep civilians from touring the White House?

Seriously?

Considering all the things that have been cut, the thing that gets your goat is the cancellation of White House tours?

What the hell is wrong with you?


Well, Fox declared it to be the real problem, so that's why he has a problem with it.
 
2013-03-17 03:56:51 PM
Selling access for $500,000?  What about this:  "The cynics, and the lobbyists, and the special interests who've turned our government into a game only they can afford to play. They write the checks and you get stuck with the bills, they get the access while you get to write a letter, they think they own this government, but we're here today to take it back." ~ Barrack Obama, 2007.

He talks the talk.
 
2013-03-17 03:57:43 PM
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
 
2013-03-17 04:08:47 PM

SkinnyHead: Selling access for $500,000?  What about this:  "The cynics, and the lobbyists, and the special interests who've turned our government into a game only they can afford to play. They write the checks and you get stuck with the bills, they get the access while you get to write a letter, they think they own this government, but we're here today to take it back." ~ Barrack Obama, 2007.

He talks the talk.


Ah Emptyhead its good to see you again, after so long I was beginning to wonder if you had choked to death on your own bullshiat after Obama and ACORN stole the election form the Mormon messiah.
 
2013-03-17 04:09:40 PM
Subby: You mean first time since tours were canceled for months following 9/11?
 
2013-03-17 04:10:43 PM
White Hours tours were stopped for 2 years after 9/11.

Now it's not easy to get one.  It goes by request by the citizens to House and Senate offices.
 
2013-03-17 04:16:59 PM
St_Francis_P:

Mark McKinnon, a former Republican strategist who worked on the campaigns of George W Bush and John McCain, is cofounder of No Labels, a non-profit organisation dedicated to bipartisanship, civil discourse and problem solving in politics

That has to be a farking joke, right.  Nobody would be that stupid.

*click*

GODDAMNITSOMUCH!
 
2013-03-17 04:21:05 PM
WTF is going on in the comments over there?
 
2013-03-17 04:23:49 PM

eraser8: Sensei Can You See: How exactly does it punish the House to keep civilians from touring the White House?

Seriously?

Considering all the things that have been cut, the thing that gets your goat is the cancellation of White House tours?

What the hell is wrong with you?


He's running out of straws to grasp, give him SOME credit. It's not easy making up facts, coming up with false equivalencies, feeding your martyr complex AND coming up with REAL things to be infuriated about.
 
2013-03-17 04:24:29 PM
Why it's become clear that Obama's White House is open to the rich and closed to the poor

I remember going on a tour of the White House some years ago in the 6th grade.  It didn't include facetime with the President then either.
 
2013-03-17 04:24:51 PM
Doesn't it take going through your local Congressman to even get on the list for a White House tour? This poutrage by Republicans is just them being upset they can't pay off donors and appear in pictures with local 4th grade classes.
 
2013-03-17 04:25:15 PM
"Once again we must ask ourselves: Why does Obama insist on being successful when we want him to fail? Doesn't he know everything he says or does is wrong? The unmitigated effrontery of pursuing his own political agenda and not doing what we'd like him to do is galling. How can he have the audacity to act exactly the way we would under similar circumstances? In the last election the American people spoke loud and clear: we want Romney. Unfortunately the unAmerican people stole the election through the use of 'votes' and 'being the majority.' There must be an end to this political chicanery or elderly white men will no longer be able to drink martinis at their club, serene in the knowledge that they are better than everyone else and no matter what happens, they will always keep getting richer."
 
2013-03-17 04:26:52 PM
Rescind the sequester and the tours can go on as usual.  We can jack up taxes on the rich to pay for them.  Or, stop complaining about the cuts you demanded.
 
2013-03-17 04:28:51 PM
Need to charge the professional lobbyists $5k a day for admission to the halls of power and use that money to pay for tour guides and security.
 
2013-03-17 04:33:24 PM

Snotnose: If I understand correctly, the white house tours were given by unpaid volunteers.  It's organized under a person who makes $100k, who still has her job.  Security provided by SS agents, who are reassigned not fired.

So shutting down white house tours saved the guv'ment $0.


You're completely wrong. The reason white house tours were suspended is because the sequester cut funding from the Secret Service. Since they have to make reductions in how much they're spending on labor costs, they shifted personnel from non-essential duties (i.e. covering white house tours) to more vital functions.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/03/obama-opens-door-to-res um ing-white-house-tours-for-school-groups/
 
2013-03-17 04:37:30 PM

MisterLoki: WTF is going on in the comments over there?


No shiat.  It reads like one of the right-winger blogorage sites.  How many of these teahadists sit around trolling British news sites?
 
2013-03-17 04:44:33 PM
Why can we not afford what we did in 2012 when spending for 2013 is going up?
The sequester wasn't a "cut" in spending - it meant spending went up less than originally planned.  We're still spending more than last year.
 
2013-03-17 04:51:53 PM

Saturn5: Why can we not afford what we did in 2012 when spending for 2013 is going up?
The sequester wasn't a "cut" in spending - it meant spending went up less than originally planned.  We're still spending more than last year.


Because of the way in which the sequester was designed.  It was never supposed to be implemented, only act as a motivator for compromise.  Hopefully Obama never makes that mistake again, but we all know he will.
 
2013-03-17 04:53:48 PM

joshiz: Separate things are separate.

See "Apples and Oranges".


Don't you see?  If Republicans refuse to fund the government, President Obama has to raise money to fund it himself.  It's really very simple.
 
2013-03-17 04:54:52 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Saturn5: Why can we not afford what we did in 2012 when spending for 2013 is going up?
The sequester wasn't a "cut" in spending - it meant spending went up less than originally planned.  We're still spending more than last year.

Because of the way in which the sequester was designed.  It was never supposed to be implemented, only act as a motivator for compromise.  Hopefully Obama never makes that mistake again, but we all know he will.


What design was it that makes us able to afford less with more money?  (not withstanding the Fed's continued monetizing of the debt)
If we truly can't deal with a reduction in the rate of increase of 2%, then there must absolutely zero government waste - it's all totally essential.

Anyone actually believe that?
 
2013-03-17 04:55:56 PM

Saturn5: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Saturn5: Why can we not afford what we did in 2012 when spending for 2013 is going up?
The sequester wasn't a "cut" in spending - it meant spending went up less than originally planned.  We're still spending more than last year.

Because of the way in which the sequester was designed.  It was never supposed to be implemented, only act as a motivator for compromise.  Hopefully Obama never makes that mistake again, but we all know he will.

What design was it that makes us able to afford less with more money?  (not withstanding the Fed's continued monetizing of the debt)
If we truly can't deal with a reduction in the rate of increase of 2%, then there must absolutely zero government waste - it's all totally essential.

Anyone actually believe that?


You are aware that the cuts aren't targeted to wasteful programs, right?
 
2013-03-17 04:56:12 PM

Saturn5: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Saturn5: Why can we not afford what we did in 2012 when spending for 2013 is going up?
The sequester wasn't a "cut" in spending - it meant spending went up less than originally planned.  We're still spending more than last year.

Because of the way in which the sequester was designed.  It was never supposed to be implemented, only act as a motivator for compromise.  Hopefully Obama never makes that mistake again, but we all know he will.

What design was it that makes us able to afford less with more money?  (not withstanding the Fed's continued monetizing of the debt)
If we truly can't deal with a reduction in the rate of increase of 2%, then there must absolutely zero government waste - it's all totally essential.

Anyone actually believe that?


You do realize that the number of citizens government must cover, etc is *also* increasing, right?

Plus, there's inflation, and a whole host of other factors...
 
2013-03-17 04:59:16 PM
The British who wrote this article seem......................concerned.
 
2013-03-17 05:04:43 PM

Emposter: Don't you see?  If Republicans refuse to fund the government, President Obama has to raise money to fund it himself.  It's really very simple.


Yes it is. As much as the Republicans try to denounce Government, it is necessary and needs funding. To what degree is what everyone is debating.
 
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