TuteTibiImperes: Why haven't we tried to build a permenantly habitated base on the moon yet? It seems.like we could learn a lot about the potential struggles of a settlement on Mars, but for a lot less money, and with the potential to being people back is there is major problem at the base.
Parallax: What are the odds that every single person who's with you up there is someone you wouldn't mind spending the rest of your life with?Uh uh. No way. There's always an asshole.
WippitGuud: jack21221: Honest Bender: ...Yeah it does. Maybe you meant to say it isn't cost effective? Or maybe you'd like to explain how we can leave Earth and land on another planet, yet can't seem to leave Mars and land on another planet...Are you saying that Mars has a launching pad and more fuel for us?Maybe ship the fuel?If you can land people there, why not land gas can.
PhDemented: WippitGuud: jack21221: Honest Bender: ...Yeah it does. Maybe you meant to say it isn't cost effective? Or maybe you'd like to explain how we can leave Earth and land on another planet, yet can't seem to leave Mars and land on another planet...Are you saying that Mars has a launching pad and more fuel for us?Maybe ship the fuel?If you can land people there, why not land gas can.When I worked with NASA a few years back, before the mars mission was canned.. that was one of the foremost plans. You send two rockets to mars: One big one filled with fuel, food, materials, and supplies. No life support needed, you are just launching dead weight. The second is smaller (and safer) containing just the crew, the lander/return vessel, and the life support needed for the trip. You send the supplies ahead of time (to make sure they get there ok), and launch the crew right after... they have all the gear there and waiting for them.../I was in life support research//kinda CSB
The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight: Just don't drink the water.
Stone Meadow: Jon iz teh kewl: xanadian: Mars is no place to raise your kids.neither is Jupitermaybe we should 3D print a planetWhy settle for a planet?
bim1154: Only way I'd do this would be if there was an over abundance of hot chicks, drugs, booze, and farking good bbq every day.
mat catastrophe: I speak for all sane humans when I say that we should send all the libertarians.
Parallax: Uh uh. No way. There's always an asshole.
J. Frank Parnell: Never make it there. And even if you did miraculously manage to somehow, your brain would be so destroyed by radiation you'd just sit there staring at the sun and drooling until you starved to death.
SuddenlySamhain: I saw a ww2 movie once where allied soldiers had to blow up a wire barricade on a beach while under heavy fire.One soldier would drag a tube shaped explosive toward the obstacle until they got shot then another soldier would run up and continue carrying the device toward the obstacle until THEY got killed.On this went untill the goal was accomplished. Prepare the steps,materials,technology et al for constructing a sustainable habitation module on Mars THEN seek out volunteers willing to go on suicide missions ,one after another to accomplish the goal. In two hundred years when Mars has a few dozen dome cities and a pop. around 500 million there will be a national park built around the original module with an oblisk carved of native stone with the names of the sacrificial astronaut/settlers.I could accept such a fate.
Pick: Does Mars have a 2nd Amendment in it's Constituition?What are the tax laws on Mars?Is Mars a democracy or a dictatorship?How much are property taxes on Mars?Is the food good and inexpensive there?These questions and many more need to be answered before I commit.
way south: Pick: Does Mars have a 2nd Amendment in it's Constituition?What are the tax laws on Mars?Is Mars a democracy or a dictatorship?How much are property taxes on Mars?Is the food good and inexpensive there?These questions and many more need to be answered before I commit.I'd imagine a mars colony would have the rules of whichever nation sent it.If it was put there by a corporation or some private venture, things might get interesting.What if they enact rules that offend people on earth?Would they be respected as a nation?Would earth based governments put pressure on their mother corporations to affect mars policies?If this thing runs by the current rules, I'd imagine something horribly PC.No guns, no sex, no alcohol, no blackjack, no private enterprise or economy to speak of, leaders appointed by earth, rulings from offworld judges and juries, etc...It would be interesting to see what they actually do with independence, if it ever comes to that.
ultraholland: See you at the party, Richter!
Quantum Apostrophe: mat catastrophe: I speak for all sane humans when I say that we should send all the libertarians.Give them a whole planet, I say. Let them have their fantasy land there.I say the same about the Space Nutters. I just want to make sure there's a reliable video link so I can watch them scream and cry and beg to come back to this "mud ball". I say we don't let them.
sporkme: Stone Meadow: Jon iz teh kewl: xanadian: Mars is no place to raise your kids.neither is Jupitermaybe we should 3D print a planetWhy settle for a planet?I am reading the Ringworld series so I am getting a kick. Good books, liked Niven since I read Lucifer's Hammer.
WeenerGord: What fuel?
WeenerGord: [hipatia.no.sapo.pt image 750x324]
trapped-in-CH: hey my job as a telephone sanitizer is pretty boring I'd be willing to get on a one-way spaceship.
Stone Meadow: BTW, here is a list of 10 Sci-Fi books that need to be made into movies./also a good list to flesh out your sci-fi reading if you haven't read them all
miniflea: The case for Mars. An interesting read, and outlines pretty well why Mars is a better choice for a viable colony than the Moon.And if they had asked for volunteers when I was fresh out of high school, I would have signed up without a second thought. Now I don't think my wife would be particularly pleased.
DanInKansas: WeenerGord: [hipatia.no.sapo.pt image 750x324]Okay, I'll bite: where does this sad, lonely, compelling picture come from? Is this a movie I should have seen by now?
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