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(Chron)   People startled when old man in robe shows up at small church, kisses babies, gives a short sermon and jokes with kids. Apparently Popes don't usually do that sort of thing   (chron.com) divider line 27
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2013-03-17 11:11:11 AM  
6 votes:

simplicimus: Either he is a really nice guy or this is brilliant PR. Or both./Catholic


If it's PR, he's been working on it for his entire career.  The man has spent decades being known as a personable, humble, friendly man.  If it's PR, he's the best PR guy the Catholics have had in a long, long time.

/Not Catholic
2013-03-17 10:45:47 AM  
6 votes:
Either he is a really nice guy or this is brilliant PR. Or both./Catholic
2013-03-17 11:09:01 AM  
5 votes:
And the media continues to report on everything pope-related EXCEPT the reasons the last one stepped down. Wouldn't want to make people uncomfortable with actual news...
2013-03-17 12:02:35 PM  
3 votes:
I would like to see him return everything that has been stolen in the name of the church and also pay reparations to the descendants of everyone that has been raped, imprisoned, enslaved, tortured or murdered in the name of the church throughout it's history.

Then the church can turn all of their child molesters and those who have kept them hidden in the church over to the civil authorities for prosecution.  They know who they are and where they are.  It's time that they did the right thing.
2013-03-17 11:08:43 AM  
3 votes:
In his homily, Francis said the core message of God is "that of mercy." He said God has an unfathomable capacity to pardon and noted that people are often harder on each other than God is toward sinners.

I'm having a very difficult time not believing this is directly related to the sex abuse scandals in the church, and the other Cardinal's comments about how it should be treated with mercy, not punished.

My bet is, Francis will hold the line on that age-old argument, the right of priests to be "punished" by the Church and not civil authorities.  "Punishment" usually consisting of a transfer and perhaps a promotion.

He's still corrupt.  He's just nicer about it.
2013-03-17 12:51:16 PM  
2 votes:

randomjsa: It's looking like we may have actually gotten a legitimately nice guy this go around.

I am NOT a fan of the Catholic church...


Most progressives aren't.
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-17 11:21:18 AM  
2 votes:
He just may be he genuinely nice fellow he appears to be. However (and this conditional is MASSIVE) if he still parrots the same tired, unmovable, unswerving ancient and close-minded party lines not much, if anything, will change for the better. So he wears a nice smile, but still wields the same old bludgeon. I pass.

People will still see the glaring double-standard of the lack of justice for any wrongdoing on a clergies part, while reminding the populous of their consequences for sinning.

And I will still refuse to go sit in church as my personal form of protest.
2013-03-17 11:17:07 AM  
2 votes:

ghare: Silverstaff: simplicimus: Either he is a really nice guy or this is brilliant PR. Or both./Catholic

If it's PR, he's been working on it for his entire career.  The man has spent decades being known as a personable, humble, friendly man.  If it's PR, he's the best PR guy the Catholics have had in a long, long time.

/Not Catholic

First impression is this. Which is good.


Indeed. I'll take the semblance of goodness as a first step toward actual goodness (with respect to the church in general, etc).
2013-03-17 11:10:17 AM  
2 votes:
It's looking like we may have actually gotten a legitimately nice guy this go around.

I am NOT a fan of the Catholic church...
2013-03-17 02:25:22 PM  
1 votes:

ThighsofGlory: Benevolent Misanthrope: In his homily, Francis said the core message of God is "that of mercy." He said God has an unfathomable capacity to pardon and noted that people are often harder on each other than God is toward sinners.

I'm having a very difficult time not believing this is directly related to the sex abuse scandals in the church, and the other Cardinal's comments about how it should be treated with mercy, not punished.

My bet is, Francis will hold the line on that age-old argument, the right of priests to be "punished" by the Church and not civil authorities.  "Punishment" usually consisting of a transfer and perhaps a promotion.

He's still corrupt.  He's just nicer about it.

You have that all figured out in three days. Aren't you charitable and forgiving.


So you think I need to forgive him already?

No, when an organization has caused the pain, suffering, oppression and rape that his has, I am not forgiving.  And I dare you to prove me wrong.  Three days, three months, three years, three decades... it makes no difference.  He's risen from the ranks of the servile to be the head of the most corrupt organization in the history of humanity.  It would be idiotic to think he will be anything other than a product of it.
2013-03-17 01:48:42 PM  
1 votes:
By bizarre coincidence a priest friend of mine knows some Argentine clergy that are close to him. He is by all reports just one really nice guy. But if anyone imagines he is going to forget which enormous international organization he is ceo of you may be dissapointed. Hes a Jesuit with a great personality not Mr. Rogers in red shoes.
2013-03-17 01:04:09 PM  
1 votes:

ThighsofGlory: Benevolent Misanthrope: In his homily, Francis said the core message of God is "that of mercy." He said God has an unfathomable capacity to pardon and noted that people are often harder on each other than God is toward sinners.

I'm having a very difficult time not believing this is directly related to the sex abuse scandals in the church, and the other Cardinal's comments about how it should be treated with mercy, not punished.

My bet is, Francis will hold the line on that age-old argument, the right of priests to be "punished" by the Church and not civil authorities.  "Punishment" usually consisting of a transfer and perhaps a promotion.

He's still corrupt.  He's just nicer about it.

You have that all figured out in three days. Aren't you charitable and forgiving.


New Popes don't get to start with clean slates.  They pick up where the last one left off, and the last one left an ungodly mess of corruption, sleezy cover ups and the like.

If this Pope wants to actually fix the tarnished image of the Catholic Church, he'll issue new orders immediately, directing all members of the clergy to turn over all evidence of wrongdoing to the civil authorities and to forthwith comply with all secular investigations into wrongdoing that impact non-clergy members.

Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Of course, I'd expect him to do that right about the time he sells off the vast stores of looted plunder from two thousand years of aggressive conversion and conflict, and use the proceeds to feed and cloth the poor and tend the sick.  Starting with that ridiculous golden throne he sits his wrinkled old ass on.
2013-03-17 12:46:37 PM  
1 votes:

picturescrazy: As a Catholic I really like this guy so far.


As a non-catholic, non-religious type I really like this guy so far.
2013-03-17 12:36:18 PM  
1 votes:
As a Catholic I really like this guy so far.
2013-03-17 12:27:06 PM  
1 votes:
I'm a lapsed Catholic. It seems to me that Francis seemed pushed into a position that he was reluctant to take (he appeared nervous when he walked onto the balcony) but I'm hoping that he'll make the papacy his own. This seems like a step in the right direction and hopefully we can have large changes made to the Church.

Hell, I might go back I the right things are done.

/Bring in the Fark Anti-Catholic brigade
2013-03-17 12:16:52 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: In his homily, Francis said the core message of God is "that of mercy." He said God has an unfathomable capacity to pardon and noted that people are often harder on each other than God is toward sinners.

I'm having a very difficult time not believing this is directly related to the sex abuse scandals in the church, and the other Cardinal's comments about how it should be treated with mercy, not punished.

My bet is, Francis will hold the line on that age-old argument, the right of priests to be "punished" by the Church and not civil authorities.  "Punishment" usually consisting of a transfer and perhaps a promotion.

He's still corrupt.  He's just nicer about it.


We do not see the world as it is, we see the world as we are.
2013-03-17 12:03:18 PM  
1 votes:
And the last time a nice guy was elected pope he lasted 33 days.....
2013-03-17 11:57:45 AM  
1 votes:
I'm not a fan of the Catholic church.
But this guy looks like he may be a genuinely nice guy.

I doubt anyone here will live to see a Pope that is ok on abortion of Teh Ghey though.
2013-03-17 11:55:46 AM  
1 votes:
I have always liked the phrase "If you see the Buddha on the road, kill him".  I suppose it can apply to Christ as well.

I want to believe that people have this church and believe these things because they want to be Christ-like, and that rapists and hypocrites and liars and so on will see their due reward in this life, on this Earth, and not have to wait for a punishment later (that will not come, says atheist I).

I doubt they will, but hey, maybe this guy will do something. Time will tell.

//I'm drunk.
///Time to go to bed.
2013-03-17 11:21:53 AM  
1 votes:
Pope4 story.

time to:

UMLEASH THE HATE DRAGONS OF FARK
2013-03-17 11:20:37 AM  
1 votes:
Show me a Pope who can fix his broken house - scandals in the Vatican, the priesthood, etc. - and I'll show you a Pope who can change the world.

Too bad it won't happen. But it's a beautiful dream.
2013-03-17 11:19:50 AM  
1 votes:

Egalitarian: http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/
hahaha these guys can't get over a Pope who simplifies tradition and wants more money spent on the poor rather than razzle-dazzle. ZOMG God wants pomp & circumstance, the Catholic church is going to dieeeee!!!


I'm happy to see that he's taken the attitude, "I'm the Pope, we'll do it my way, fark tradition". The fact that he pisses off the wingnuts is just gravy.
2013-03-17 11:18:06 AM  
1 votes:

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: And the media continues to report on everything pope-related EXCEPT the reasons the last one stepped down. Wouldn't want to make people uncomfortable with actual news...


I think the old Pope is dying, assuming he's as frail as the media has made him out to be.
2013-03-17 11:17:56 AM  
1 votes:

Silverstaff: he man has spent decades being known as a personable, humble, friendly man. If it's PR, he's the best PR guy the Catholics have had in a long, long time.


And best buddies with the people who gave you the "dirty war"
2013-03-17 11:16:35 AM  
1 votes:
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/
hahaha these guys can't get over a Pope who simplifies tradition and wants more money spent on the poor rather than razzle-dazzle. ZOMG God wants pomp & circumstance, the Catholic church is going to dieeeee!!!
2013-03-17 11:12:44 AM  
1 votes:

Silverstaff: simplicimus: Either he is a really nice guy or this is brilliant PR. Or both./Catholic

If it's PR, he's been working on it for his entire career.  The man has spent decades being known as a personable, humble, friendly man.  If it's PR, he's the best PR guy the Catholics have had in a long, long time.

/Not Catholic


First impression is this. Which is good.
2013-03-17 11:10:27 AM  
1 votes:
Did they count the kids after he left, just to be sure?
 
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