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2013-03-17 10:45:58 AM
The correct way to handle a traffic stop if you are being recorded by a camera crew.

Fixed.

Good luck with this shiat in the real world.
 
2013-03-17 10:49:12 AM
The correct way to handle a traffic stop if you are African American
 
2013-03-17 10:54:25 AM
We just need to learn from the russians and always have a dash cam.
 
2013-03-17 10:55:35 AM
That actually is some good advice. Also see  How To Not Get Your Ass Kicked By The Police
 
2013-03-17 10:58:13 AM
"Yes, sir. No, sir. Thank you, sir"

That is all. (Unless you have drugs, then do what this guy did.)
 
2013-03-17 10:59:32 AM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: That actually is some good advice. Also see  How To Not Get Your Ass Kicked By The Police


never gets old. :)

/ he got weed! he got weed!
 
2013-03-17 11:10:58 AM
1) Be white.
 
2013-03-17 11:14:07 AM
Somehow the wrong video was linked.  Here's the correct one.
 
2013-03-17 11:59:19 AM
How to get out of a speeding ticket. Some NSFW side bars.
http://www.ehowa.com/mythoughts/nospeeding.shtml
 
2013-03-17 12:07:09 PM
And when it comes to a police investigation, never, ever talk to the police
 
2013-03-17 12:13:32 PM
Ha ha - obvious tag on vacation?

Also helps not to be black.

But more importantly it's better not to give the cops a reason to pull you over in the first place. Darren shouldn't have been swerving all over the road. He deserved a ticket.
 
2013-03-17 12:23:41 PM
Not a realistic portrayal. A seat-belt violation was not added to ticket.
 
2013-03-17 12:40:27 PM
Yeah, that guy wouldn't have been shot/tased when he reached to god knows where to get his license. Or when he was raising his hands towards his waistband in that gesture.

The poor cop could have legally shot him in both instances because he might have went for a gun and he was afraid for his life
 
2013-03-17 12:48:05 PM
i105.photobucket.com
What someone who does not consent to searches might look like.
 
2013-03-17 01:08:31 PM
Keeping your hands on the wheel and turning on the inside lights are great pieces of advice.  They get the cop to relax and then you just act super polite.  They are all paranoid about every stop so if you can make the beginning easier for them it will go a lot better for you
 
2013-03-17 01:24:33 PM
<i>Also turn your inside lights on so the police officer can see</i>

NOPE.
The officer doesn't need to see shiat. If you want to show you don't have a gun, fine, but don't give him an excuse to search your car. The less he sees, the better.
 
2013-03-17 01:28:14 PM

Invisible Pedestrian: Somehow the wrong video was linked.  Here's the correct one.


That is excellent advice. Thank you for sharing.
 
2013-03-17 01:40:40 PM
Too bad we live in a society where we the cops are the bad guys who are seen as fascists trying to take away rights. We grew up thinking cops protect us, and here we have a lesson on how to defend against them.
 
2013-03-17 01:42:18 PM

SmackLT: And when it comes to a police investigation, never, ever talk to the police


Jeebus, when the cops sit down with the person and her/his lawyer on the Law and Order, the lawyer often nods his head to allow the person to talk.  In fact, I think that's pretty much the whole idea of the show.  If no one talked at all there would be no case.
 
2013-03-17 01:52:44 PM

mrbach: Too bad we live in a society where we the cops are the bad guys who are seen as fascists trying to take away rights. We grew up thinking cops protect us, and here we have a lesson on how to defend against them.


At our office, one of the security people, who used to be a cop, sent out an e-mail asking for information on who had been stealing reams of paper out of the workroom.  I knew what was happening--people were taking the paper out to bring to the printer down the hallway, because the office that supplied THAT paper was always closed--but I wasn't going to tell him.  It was probably because the e-mail he sent made it sound like he was looking for any excuse to accuse you of doing it.  In other words, "please share info," was more like "walk into my trap, mofo."
 
2013-03-17 01:56:08 PM

ski9600: SmackLT: And when it comes to a police investigation, never, ever talk to the police

Jeebus, when the cops sit down with the person and her/his lawyer on the Law and Order, the lawyer often nods his head to allow the person to talk.  In fact, I think that's pretty much the whole idea of the show.  If no one talked at all there would be no case.


What cop shows are you watching?  The guy being questioned at the station NEVER has a lawyer present and he ALWAYS spills his guts.
 
2013-03-17 02:03:33 PM
He forgot to have windows up and lock the doors to his car.

Some internet cop/lawyer help me out- can't they just open the door if it's unlocked?
 
2013-03-17 02:05:52 PM

haterade: He forgot to have windows up and lock the doors to his car.

Some internet cop/lawyer help me out- can't they just open the door if it's unlocked?


Technically, no, but it's a lot easier for them to lie on the stand and say you left the door wide open and they just glanced inside and saw [x] if they also have to say that they got the keys off of you because the door was locked.
 
2013-03-17 02:06:55 PM

mrbach: Too bad we live in a society where we the cops are the bad guys who are seen as fascists trying to take away rights. We grew up thinking cops protect us, and here we have a lesson on how to defend against them.


Remember when kids used to be able to play "cops and robbers?"

I say it went to shiat when that stopped.

Oh, and the 20+ years of wars.
 
2013-03-17 03:21:24 PM

Theaetetus: haterade: He forgot to have windows up and lock the doors to his car.

Some internet cop/lawyer help me out- can't they just open the door if it's unlocked?

Technically, no, but it's a lot easier for them to lie on the stand and say you left the door wide open and they just glanced inside and saw [x] if they also have to say that they got the keys off of you because the door was locked.


Was that before the cop smelled pot and saw you throw something out the window?
 
2013-03-17 03:28:03 PM

I Like Bread: <i>Also turn your inside lights on so the police officer can see</i>

NOPE.
The officer doesn't need to see shiat. If you want to show you don't have a gun, fine, but don't give him an excuse to search your car. The less he sees, the better.


Does using the flashlight to look inside the windows of the rear seat and storage area of the vehicle constitute search without consent?
 
2013-03-17 03:29:57 PM

haterade: He forgot to have windows up and lock the doors to his car.

Some internet cop/lawyer help me out- can't they just open the door if it's unlocked?


At the moment you are pulled over, you are legally detained and required to follow instructions, including getting out of the car, being handcuffed and placed in his vehicle.

You are not under arrest, and you are not required to testify against yourself.

If you fail to follow his legal instructions, and resist, his options in how he treats you increase dramatically.
 
2013-03-17 03:31:31 PM

kpaxoid: I Like Bread: <i>Also turn your inside lights on so the police officer can see</i>

NOPE.
The officer doesn't need to see shiat. If you want to show you don't have a gun, fine, but don't give him an excuse to search your car. The less he sees, the better.

Does using the flashlight to look inside the windows of the rear seat and storage area of the vehicle constitute search without consent?


What would a "reasonable" person do?
 
2013-03-17 03:41:54 PM

FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 635x415]
What someone who does not consent to searches might look like.


Looks more like what someone fleeing from the cops might look like.  Unless he was just hanging out in the middle of a field.
 
2013-03-17 03:48:33 PM
How to handle talking to the police:

Rule #1: DO NOT DO STUPID shiat WHILE DRIVING!! DO NOT SPEED!!
 
2013-03-17 03:55:40 PM

MylesHeartVodak: haterade: He forgot to have windows up and lock the doors to his car.

Some internet cop/lawyer help me out- can't they just open the door if it's unlocked?

At the moment you are pulled over, you are legally detained and required to follow instructions, including getting out of the car, being handcuffed and placed in his vehicle.

You are not under arrest, and you are not required to testify against yourself.

If you fail to follow his legal instructions, and resist, his options in how he treats you increase dramatically.


I'm pretty sure he was referring to after you get out of the car for the cop. He says "get out," you say "yes, sir" and get out and close and lock the door behind you.
If you're  really slick, you close and lock the door with your keys inside. You'll have to call AAA, but good luck having the cop trying to search that car without a warrant.
 
2013-03-17 03:55:54 PM

MasonL87: How to handle talking to the police:

Rule #1: DO NOT DO STUPID shiat WHILE DRIVING!! DO NOT SPEED!!




Says the guy that barely drives.
 
2013-03-17 03:58:25 PM

kpaxoid: I Like Bread: <i>Also turn your inside lights on so the police officer can see</i>

NOPE.
The officer doesn't need to see shiat. If you want to show you don't have a gun, fine, but don't give him an excuse to search your car. The less he sees, the better.

Does using the flashlight to look inside the windows of the rear seat and storage area of the vehicle constitute search without consent?


Unfortunately, there are line of sight laws that give police the advantage here. If you've already expressed your refusal to submit to a search, though, the cop should back off if he knows what's good for him.
 
2013-03-17 04:06:42 PM

StoPPeRmobile: kpaxoid: I Like Bread: <i>Also turn your inside lights on so the police officer can see</i>

NOPE.
The officer doesn't need to see shiat. If you want to show you don't have a gun, fine, but don't give him an excuse to search your car. The less he sees, the better.

Does using the flashlight to look inside the windows of the rear seat and storage area of the vehicle constitute search without consent?

What would a "reasonable" person do?


Just wondering.  If you get pulled over because your taillights are burnt out, the policeman is checking to see if you have any spare taillights in the back of the car?
 
2013-03-17 04:19:07 PM

MasonL87: How to handle talking to the police:

Rule #1: DO NOT DO STUPID shiat WHILE DRIVING!! DO NOT SPEED!!


Rule #1 Don't be black or brown.


cause they can make that other crap up.

/Fixed

can't wait till everybody goes Russian and has a dash cam here in the U.S.
 
2013-03-17 04:44:08 PM

StoPPeRmobile: MasonL87: How to handle talking to the police:

Rule #1: DO NOT DO STUPID shiat WHILE DRIVING!! DO NOT SPEED!!

Says the guy that barely drives.


I didn't realize the temptation to go faster than you reasonably should (or, at best, faster than the flow of traffic) was an insurmountable thing.
 
2013-03-17 05:03:52 PM

SnakeLee: Keeping your hands on the wheel and turning on the inside lights are great pieces of advice.  They get the cop to relax and then you just act super polite.  They are all paranoid about every stop so if you can make the beginning easier for them it will go a lot better for you


Last time I was stopped, I turned off the car, got out and wandered back to have a chat with the cop. Sounds like you need a better police force than a bunch of paranoid gunslingers who think everybody is out to shoot them.
 
2013-03-17 05:12:47 PM
just ask the cop how long its been since he's had his joint worked on.

then say, "we'll, can't help you there, bud"  after he tells you some godawfull amount of time.
 
2013-03-17 05:13:30 PM

FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 635x415]
What someone who does not consent to searches might look like.


they're just keeping us Free.
 
2013-03-17 05:29:29 PM

VvonderJesus: The correct way to handle a traffic stop if you are African American


Or regular African and just black...
 
2013-03-17 06:02:09 PM

shanrick: How to get out of a speeding ticket. Some NSFW side bars.
http://www.ehowa.com/mythoughts/nospeeding.shtml


That page says to never plead guilty to a speeding ticket.

Assuming we can afford the ticket and any points/premium increases--or at least consider those costs vastly preferable to killing a day in court--what's wrong with just paying the ticket? Is there some additional consequence I'm overlooking?
 
2013-03-17 06:06:07 PM

MasonL87: StoPPeRmobile: MasonL87: How to handle talking to the police:

Rule #1: DO NOT DO STUPID shiat WHILE DRIVING!! DO NOT SPEED!!

Says the guy that barely drives.

I didn't realize the temptation to go faster than you reasonably should (or, at best, faster than the flow of traffic) was an insurmountable thing.




There are no absolutes on the road. If you drove enough you would notice that. Even cops cut people breaks. I wonder why? Maybe something, reasonable?
 
2013-03-17 06:09:07 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: shanrick: How to get out of a speeding ticket. Some NSFW side bars.
http://www.ehowa.com/mythoughts/nospeeding.shtml

That page says to never plead guilty to a speeding ticket.

Assuming we can afford the ticket and any points/premium increases--or at least consider those costs vastly preferable to killing a day in court--what's wrong with just paying the ticket? Is there some additional consequence I'm overlooking?


You quietly paying the ticket because it's the most convenient thing for you to do is exactly what they want. They do not want you costing them money and time by challenging the ticket. If everyone challenged every ticket they got it would clog up the system pretty badly. That's the problem though. Most people just want to do what is easiest, which is to quietly pay the ticket.
 
2013-03-17 06:21:04 PM

jigger: Yankees Team Gynecologist: shanrick: How to get out of a speeding ticket. Some NSFW side bars.
http://www.ehowa.com/mythoughts/nospeeding.shtml

That page says to never plead guilty to a speeding ticket.

Assuming we can afford the ticket and any points/premium increases--or at least consider those costs vastly preferable to killing a day in court--what's wrong with just paying the ticket? Is there some additional consequence I'm overlooking?

You quietly paying the ticket because it's the most convenient thing for you to do is exactly what they want. They do not want you costing them money and time by challenging the ticket. If everyone challenged every ticket they got it would clog up the system pretty badly. That's the problem though. Most people just want to do what is easiest, which is to quietly pay the ticket.


Except I was speeding. So unless you reject the concept of speed limits altogether, I deserved the ticket. In my case I wasn't hassled for no reason.

So far I've gotten one ticket. If I get a lot more, and/or I feel there's a systemic problem with my local police force, I may have to carve out time to show up in court. For now however I don't see the point.
 
2013-03-17 06:42:13 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: jigger: Yankees Team Gynecologist: shanrick: How to get out of a speeding ticket. Some NSFW side bars.
http://www.ehowa.com/mythoughts/nospeeding.shtml

That page says to never plead guilty to a speeding ticket.

Assuming we can afford the ticket and any points/premium increases--or at least consider those costs vastly preferable to killing a day in court--what's wrong with just paying the ticket? Is there some additional consequence I'm overlooking?

You quietly paying the ticket because it's the most convenient thing for you to do is exactly what they want. They do not want you costing them money and time by challenging the ticket. If everyone challenged every ticket they got it would clog up the system pretty badly. That's the problem though. Most people just want to do what is easiest, which is to quietly pay the ticket.

Except I was speeding. So unless you reject the concept of speed limits altogether, I deserved the ticket. In my case I wasn't hassled for no reason.

So far I've gotten one ticket. If I get a lot more, and/or I feel there's a systemic problem with my local police force, I may have to carve out time to show up in court. For now however I don't see the point.


God dammit, THIS.

If you are actually speeding, as in driving over the speed limit and caught doing so, why the fark would you go on a holy crusade to fight the ticket? All the problems with the court system are rooted in self-righteous douches who take the time and effort to make the judges spend time on that shiat.
 
2013-03-17 06:42:41 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: jigger: Yankees Team Gynecologist: shanrick: How to get out of a speeding ticket. Some NSFW side bars.
http://www.ehowa.com/mythoughts/nospeeding.shtml

That page says to never plead guilty to a speeding ticket.

Assuming we can afford the ticket and any points/premium increases--or at least consider those costs vastly preferable to killing a day in court--what's wrong with just paying the ticket? Is there some additional consequence I'm overlooking?

You quietly paying the ticket because it's the most convenient thing for you to do is exactly what they want. They do not want you costing them money and time by challenging the ticket. If everyone challenged every ticket they got it would clog up the system pretty badly. That's the problem though. Most people just want to do what is easiest, which is to quietly pay the ticket.

Except I was speeding. So unless you reject the concept of speed limits altogether, I deserved the ticket. In my case I wasn't hassled for no reason.

So far I've gotten one ticket. If I get a lot more, and/or I feel there's a systemic problem with my local police force, I may have to carve out time to show up in court. For now however I don't see the point.




No contest, no points assigned, fine reduced, 2 hours. Insurance hikes suck.
 
2013-03-17 07:01:49 PM
One year around Christmas I was stopped for expired inspection and registration, and I had no insurance at the time, but my old policy card in my glove box. It was a hard time, I was under-employed and living in a motel with my wife.

I stopped in a parking lot, off the main road, and turned off my engine.  I rolled my window down and let all the heat out of my car.  After handing him my licence and expired insurance, I denied knowledge that my tags were out, and he went to his car to run my info through the system to see if my insurance was up to date, as my card was not.  I left my window down and let myself get cold intentionally.

The cop came back and asked if I had a current insurance card, and I told him I didn't. He cut me a break, as I had been driving safely, he'd just seen the expired tags.  I received a citation for the tags, and he declined exercising the option to tow my car for being uninsured, as it was so cold out, and I was clearly not in any condition to walk home. (By this point my lips were purple and heading towards blue.)

I never paid that citation, and ended up serving out the resulting warrant in jail... for only 12 hours.
 
2013-03-17 07:01:50 PM
Step 1: Don't give them a reason to pull you over.
Step 2: Don't have anything illegal in your car.

Problem solved. You wanna waste your time and search my car? Help yourself. It'll probably be faster than listening to you lecture me about how bad I'm making the situation and you might even let me go without a ticket for whatever crap caused you to pull me over in the first place just because I was so cooperative.
 
2013-03-17 07:03:18 PM

mrbach: Too bad we live in a society where we the cops are the bad guys who are seen as fascists trying to take away rights. We grew up thinking cops protect us, and here we have a lesson on how to defend against them.


I'm sure cops were great people back when it was easy to identify criminals by their skin color. Now they have no idea who could possibly be Jewish or a liberal.
 
2013-03-17 08:14:46 PM

ModernLuddite: God dammit, THIS.

If you are actually speeding, as in driving over the speed limit and caught doing so, why the fark would you go on a holy crusade to fight the ticket? All the problems with the court system are rooted in self-righteous douches who take the time and effort to make the judges spend time on that shiat.


Not so.  Even if they were speeding the court still needs to prove that they were speeding with properly gathered evidence. It is not the obligation of the guilty to help the prosecutor.

/they will never find the bodies.
 
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