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2013-03-17 10:46:03 AM  
They're not elite or top secret, subby. Nice way to buy a green though.
 
2013-03-17 10:46:39 AM  

Tobin_Lam: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The more hyperbolic the name of the government project (VIPR team, USA PATRIOT Act), the worse it is. FFS, our most badass special forces teams are named after this:
[ec.europa.eu image 450x297]

Seals are badass. I bet you would lose a fight with one in hand to hand combat.


Don't you meal hand to flipper? aCtually, I"m the dumbass who'd be all OHtheryresoooooooCUUUTE! and get my face bit off trying to pet them.
 
2013-03-17 10:47:00 AM  

Tobin_Lam: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The more hyperbolic the name of the government project (VIPR team, USA PATRIOT Act), the worse it is. FFS, our most badass special forces teams are named after this:
[ec.europa.eu image 450x297]

Seals are badass. I bet you would lose a fight with one in hand to hand combat.


Yeah, but if you turn the tables the difference in abilities is just as apparent.  Ask a SEAL to solve a polynomial equation sometime and see what happens.
 
2013-03-17 10:48:06 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The more hyperbolic the name of the government project (VIPR team, USA PATRIOT Act), the worse it is. FFS, our most badass special forces teams are named after this:
[ec.europa.eu image 450x297]


No, they're named after:

Sea
travelinginmyworld.files.wordpress.com

Air
morganbeebe.files.wordpress.com

Land
entropy2.com
 
2013-03-17 10:49:03 AM  

MFAWG: RacySmurff: doosh: Oooooh they had  Hand-Held NUCLEAR Detection Devices !!

[checks ebay for the price on a geiger counter]

Wow, the feds blew a whole c-note on each of these devices. Im-pressssed!!

Clearly you don't know much about the workings of our wonderful bureaucracy. I'm sure the government gets them wholesale. So they probably cost $13,000 +/+ (read plus or plus) $20,000 or so.

Why would anybody charge 20k for 100 dollar geiger counter?


Exactly.
 
2013-03-17 10:50:15 AM  

rohar: Tobin_Lam: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The more hyperbolic the name of the government project (VIPR team, USA PATRIOT Act), the worse it is. FFS, our most badass special forces teams are named after this:
[ec.europa.eu image 450x297]

Seals are badass. I bet you would lose a fight with one in hand to hand combat.

Yeah, but if you turn the tables the difference in abilities is just as apparent.  Ask a SEAL to solve a polynomial equation sometime and see what happens.


I did, but when he ventured off into Kaluza-Klein manifolds he kind of lost me.
 
2013-03-17 10:50:47 AM  
I think they are actually part of DHS (Dept of homeland security) directly, and not TSA (a sub of DHS). I passed one of their buses the other day, plain white, serial number on the side, license plate US GOV DHS.
 
2013-03-17 10:55:32 AM  

rohar: Tobin_Lam: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The more hyperbolic the name of the government project (VIPR team, USA PATRIOT Act), the worse it is. FFS, our most badass special forces teams are named after this:
[ec.europa.eu image 450x297]

Seals are badass. I bet you would lose a fight with one in hand to hand combat.

Yeah, but if you turn the tables the difference in abilities is just as apparent.  Ask a SEAL to solve a polynomial equation sometime and see what happens.


Pretty sure SEALs aren't meatheads. If you're an idiot: you don't make the cut.
 
2013-03-17 10:55:39 AM  

rohar: Girion47: One of them had been on a sub for the Navy, he had all kinds of crazy ass stories about what happened on his boat.

As a former bubblehead, I'm acutely curious of these stories, please elaborate so as that we may judge his authenticity.


One of the many I can remember:

Sub was docked at one of those places in Southern VA.  This sub had been opened for public tours, the crew had marked the floors to show where the tourists could step, and where they couldn't(yellow zone would get you ejected, red being immediate arrest).   Apparently a high school group came through, and one kid being a smartass walked into a "red" zone and tried to push a button.   Apparently because of protocol they had to strip search the kid and turn him over to the NSA, the guy told me that the kid actually got sent to prison over the whole incident and the tours were no longer offered.

Also told me that everyone was assigned some kind of melee weapon and post in case of a boarding party.

I can't remember any of the other stories he told, I was more interested in hearing one of the guys detail how to sneak a "device" onto a plane that the TSA wouldn't be able to catch.
 
2013-03-17 10:56:13 AM  
i44.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-17 10:56:15 AM  

Insatiable Jesus: And now everyone in the world knows how to wear them out with false readings.


And knowing is half the battle!
 
2013-03-17 10:57:13 AM  
Incompetent "elite" organisations named after snakes? Someone is getting sued.

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-03-17 10:57:22 AM  
Great. Now the high school dropout squad has Geiger Counters they don't know how to use are are armed with farking military hardware. I feel so goddamn safe now.
 
2013-03-17 10:58:56 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: And knowing is half the battle!


2 seconds. Well that was magical.
 
2013-03-17 11:01:39 AM  

Nefarious: Are they coming to vipe the vindows?


Well, there goes my chance to gain Fark cred by dropping an obscure cultural reference.
 
2013-03-17 11:01:43 AM  

RacySmurff: MFAWG: RacySmurff: doosh: Oooooh they had  Hand-Held NUCLEAR Detection Devices !!

[checks ebay for the price on a geiger counter]

Wow, the feds blew a whole c-note on each of these devices. Im-pressssed!!

Clearly you don't know much about the workings of our wonderful bureaucracy. I'm sure the government gets them wholesale. So they probably cost $13,000 +/+ (read plus or plus) $20,000 or so.

Why would anybody charge 20k for 100 dollar geiger counter?

Exactly.


I seriously doubt they are using Geiger counters. They are probably using solid state radiation detectors, i.e. photodiodes and some associated circuitry for amplification and signal processing.
 
2013-03-17 11:02:54 AM  

Dictatorial_Flair: Great. Now the high school dropout squad has Geiger Counters they don't know how to use are are armed with farking military hardware. I feel so goddamn safe now.


I'd really love to have some physics geeks ask them in the field about the thresholds and sensitivity of the Geiger counters, whether specific obscure elements that are radioactive trigger them, and other scientific questions to get a "Huh, whuh?" response. It'd be like XKCD cosplay.
 
2013-03-17 11:07:57 AM  

rocketpants: I seriously doubt they are using Geiger counters. They are probably using solid state radiation detectors, i.e. photodiodes and some associated circuitry for amplification and signal processing.


So you're saying they have extra no farking idea how to use their equipment. Even better.
 
2013-03-17 11:08:14 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The more hyperbolic the name of the government project (VIPR team, USA PATRIOT Act), the worse it is. FFS, our most badass special forces teams are named after this:
[ec.europa.eu image 450x297]


Look out for the Milquetoast squad.
 
2013-03-17 11:09:02 AM  
Last time I had a stress test, they actually gave me a pre-printed form that I could show to the police if I got pulled over. The state troopers (and some of the local guys) have radiation detectors in CT.
The test uses Technetium 99m, a gamma emitter. Fortunately it has a short half-life (6.01 hours), so most if it is gone in a couple of days. That would explain your situation, Slartibartfaster.
 
2013-03-17 11:13:54 AM  
A nuke going off in Chicago might actually clean up the place a little bit.
 
2013-03-17 11:15:08 AM  

Tillmaster: Last time I had a stress test, they actually gave me a pre-printed form that I could show to the police if I got pulled over. The state troopers (and some of the local guys) have radiation detectors in CT.
The test uses Technetium 99m, a gamma emitter. Fortunately it has a short half-life (6.01 hours), so most if it is gone in a couple of days. That would explain your situation, Slartibartfaster.


Yes, you should totally have to show papers for unauthorized particles.

kevinboehm: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The more hyperbolic the name of the government project (VIPR team, USA PATRIOT Act), the worse it is. FFS, our most badass special forces teams are named after this:
[ec.europa.eu image 450x297]

Look out for the Milquetoast squad.


If I'm ever President, there will be an Operation Spanish Inquisition.
 
2013-03-17 11:19:13 AM  

Girion47: rohar: Girion47: One of them had been on a sub for the Navy, he had all kinds of crazy ass stories about what happened on his boat.

As a former bubblehead, I'm acutely curious of these stories, please elaborate so as that we may judge his authenticity.

One of the many I can remember:

Sub was docked at one of those places in Southern VA.  This sub had been opened for public tours, the crew had marked the floors to show where the tourists could step, and where they couldn't(yellow zone would get you ejected, red being immediate arrest).   Apparently a high school group came through, and one kid being a smartass walked into a "red" zone and tried to push a button.   Apparently because of protocol they had to strip search the kid and turn him over to the NSA, the guy told me that the kid actually got sent to prison over the whole incident and the tours were no longer offered.

Also told me that everyone was assigned some kind of melee weapon and post in case of a boarding party.

I can't remember any of the other stories he told, I was more interested in hearing one of the guys detail how to sneak a "device" onto a plane that the TSA wouldn't be able to catch.


So a liar then?
 
2013-03-17 11:19:37 AM  

Dictatorial_Flair: rocketpants: I seriously doubt they are using Geiger counters. They are probably using solid state radiation detectors, i.e. photodiodes and some associated circuitry for amplification and signal processing.

So you're saying they have extra no farking idea how to use their equipment. Even better.


Naaah. It's so easy, even a TSA agent can use it...

Just set it ... and forget it!

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-17 11:24:37 AM  

RacySmurff: rohar: Tobin_Lam: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The more hyperbolic the name of the government project (VIPR team, USA PATRIOT Act), the worse it is. FFS, our most badass special forces teams are named after this:
[ec.europa.eu image 450x297]

Seals are badass. I bet you would lose a fight with one in hand to hand combat.

Yeah, but if you turn the tables the difference in abilities is just as apparent.  Ask a SEAL to solve a polynomial equation sometime and see what happens.

Pretty sure SEALs aren't meatheads. If you're an idiot: you don't make the cut.


Some are, some aren't.  Like the rest of the Navy, they go through their individual rate training first.  There's no strikers in SEAL teams.  The guys from the technical rates are pretty bright, those from the non technical rates not so much.  A machinist is a machinist, not a high bar to cross.  Radiomen, by contrast, have to be pretty bright.  Doing wave table propagation in your head is a bit of a trick.  The washout rate in the technical A schools is pretty huge.

At the end of the day though, when they leave the teams they don't generally amount to much.  See all the news stories about the guys that went to get Bin Laden after they separated.  It's ugly.
 
2013-03-17 11:26:44 AM  

rohar: RacySmurff: rohar: Tobin_Lam: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The more hyperbolic the name of the government project (VIPR team, USA PATRIOT Act), the worse it is. FFS, our most badass special forces teams are named after this:
[ec.europa.eu image 450x297]

Seals are badass. I bet you would lose a fight with one in hand to hand combat.

Yeah, but if you turn the tables the difference in abilities is just as apparent.  Ask a SEAL to solve a polynomial equation sometime and see what happens.

Pretty sure SEALs aren't meatheads. If you're an idiot: you don't make the cut.

Some are, some aren't.  Like the rest of the Navy, they go through their individual rate training first.  There's no strikers in SEAL teams.  The guys from the technical rates are pretty bright, those from the non technical rates not so much.  A machinist is a machinist, not a high bar to cross.  Radiomen, by contrast, have to be pretty bright.  Doing wave table propagation in your head is a bit of a trick.  The washout rate in the technical A schools is pretty huge.

At the end of the day though, when they leave the teams they don't generally amount to much.  See all the news stories about the guys that went to get Bin Laden after they separated.  It's ugly.


Don't the Snipers have to be pretty good at math. I'm assuming a SEAL team includes them.
 
2013-03-17 11:28:50 AM  
How the hell did TSA find what they were looking for without grabbing someones genitals?
 
2013-03-17 11:30:35 AM  

rohar: RacySmurff: rohar: Tobin_Lam: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The more hyperbolic the name of the government project (VIPR team, USA PATRIOT Act), the worse it is. FFS, our most badass special forces teams are named after this:
[ec.europa.eu image 450x297]

Seals are badass. I bet you would lose a fight with one in hand to hand combat.

Yeah, but if you turn the tables the difference in abilities is just as apparent.  Ask a SEAL to solve a polynomial equation sometime and see what happens.

Pretty sure SEALs aren't meatheads. If you're an idiot: you don't make the cut.

Some are, some aren't.  Like the rest of the Navy, they go through their individual rate training first.  There's no strikers in SEAL teams.  The guys from the technical rates are pretty bright, those from the non technical rates not so much.  A machinist is a machinist, not a high bar to cross.  Radiomen, by contrast, have to be pretty bright.  Doing wave table propagation in your head is a bit of a trick. The washout rate in the technical A schools is pretty huge.

At the end of the day though, when they leave the teams they don't generally amount to much.  See all the news stories about the guys that went to get Bin Laden after they separated.  It's ugly.


Tell us what that is.
 
2013-03-17 11:30:49 AM  

rocketpants: Dictatorial_Flair: rocketpants: I seriously doubt they are using Geiger counters. They are probably using solid state radiation detectors, i.e. photodiodes and some associated circuitry for amplification and signal processing.

So you're saying they have extra no farking idea how to use their equipment. Even better.

Naaah. It's so easy, even a TSA agent can use it...

Just set it ... and forget it!

[i.imgur.com image 300x300]


Damn, that's easy.
 
2013-03-17 11:31:00 AM  
Viper Team? Wasn't that a terrible TV show that was little more than a glorified ad for the Dodge Viper?
 
2013-03-17 11:31:05 AM  

MFAWG: RacySmurff: doosh: Oooooh they had  Hand-Held NUCLEAR Detection Devices !!

[checks ebay for the price on a geiger counter]

Wow, the feds blew a whole c-note on each of these devices. Im-pressssed!!

Clearly you don't know much about the workings of our wonderful bureaucracy. I'm sure the government gets them wholesale. So they probably cost $13,000 +/+ (read plus or plus) $20,000 or so.

Why would anybody charge 20k for 100 dollar geiger counter?


Because Uncle Sugar will pay it.
 
2013-03-17 11:31:26 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: rohar: RacySmurff: rohar: Tobin_Lam: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The more hyperbolic the name of the government project (VIPR team, USA PATRIOT Act), the worse it is. FFS, our most badass special forces teams are named after this:
[ec.europa.eu image 450x297]

Seals are badass. I bet you would lose a fight with one in hand to hand combat.

Yeah, but if you turn the tables the difference in abilities is just as apparent.  Ask a SEAL to solve a polynomial equation sometime and see what happens.

Pretty sure SEALs aren't meatheads. If you're an idiot: you don't make the cut.

Some are, some aren't.  Like the rest of the Navy, they go through their individual rate training first.  There's no strikers in SEAL teams.  The guys from the technical rates are pretty bright, those from the non technical rates not so much.  A machinist is a machinist, not a high bar to cross.  Radiomen, by contrast, have to be pretty bright.  Doing wave table propagation in your head is a bit of a trick.  The washout rate in the technical A schools is pretty huge.

At the end of the day though, when they leave the teams they don't generally amount to much.  See all the news stories about the guys that went to get Bin Laden after they separated.  It's ugly.

Don't the Snipers have to be pretty good at math. I'm assuming a SEAL team includes them.


How do they need to be good at math?
 
2013-03-17 11:35:21 AM  

rohar: Girion47: rohar: Girion47: One of them had been on a sub for the Navy, he had all kinds of crazy ass stories about what happened on his boat.

As a former bubblehead, I'm acutely curious of these stories, please elaborate so as that we may judge his authenticity.

One of the many I can remember:

Sub was docked at one of those places in Southern VA.  This sub had been opened for public tours, the crew had marked the floors to show where the tourists could step, and where they couldn't(yellow zone would get you ejected, red being immediate arrest).   Apparently a high school group came through, and one kid being a smartass walked into a "red" zone and tried to push a button.   Apparently because of protocol they had to strip search the kid and turn him over to the NSA, the guy told me that the kid actually got sent to prison over the whole incident and the tours were no longer offered.

Also told me that everyone was assigned some kind of melee weapon and post in case of a boarding party.

I can't remember any of the other stories he told, I was more interested in hearing one of the guys detail how to sneak a "device" onto a plane that the TSA wouldn't be able to catch.

So a liar then?


quite possible.

Made the trip entertaining at least.
 
2013-03-17 11:35:39 AM  

Deathfrogg: MFAWG: RacySmurff: doosh: Oooooh they had  Hand-Held NUCLEAR Detection Devices !!

[checks ebay for the price on a geiger counter]

Wow, the feds blew a whole c-note on each of these devices. Im-pressssed!!

Clearly you don't know much about the workings of our wonderful bureaucracy. I'm sure the government gets them wholesale. So they probably cost $13,000 +/+ (read plus or plus) $20,000 or so.

Why would anybody charge 20k for 100 dollar geiger counter?

Because Uncle Sugar will pay it.


Decent Ludlum meter is under $500.
 
2013-03-17 11:41:10 AM  

noitsnot: Tell us what that is


That's the PITA of transmitting moderate frequencies through changing atmospheric conditions.  Assuming you're in the MF/HF band, atmospheric inputs can dramatically affect where and how you can transmit.  If conditions are one way, you can transmit/receive over a very short area, line of sight at max.  If conditions are just right, you can send MF all the way around the world.

This is where a pile of math comes in.  Attenuation, absorption, deflection and diffraction must all be accounted for and transmission must be adjusted accordingly.
 
2013-03-17 11:47:04 AM  

BGates: Deathfrogg: MFAWG: RacySmurff: doosh: Oooooh they had  Hand-Held NUCLEAR Detection Devices !!

[checks ebay for the price on a geiger counter]

Wow, the feds blew a whole c-note on each of these devices. Im-pressssed!!

Clearly you don't know much about the workings of our wonderful bureaucracy. I'm sure the government gets them wholesale. So they probably cost $13,000 +/+ (read plus or plus) $20,000 or so.

Why would anybody charge 20k for 100 dollar geiger counter?

Because Uncle Sugar will pay it.

Decent Ludlum meter is under $500.


Doesn't mean anything. My old boss tried to get into federal supply contracts for the Navy, machined parts. He'd bid a job at triple calculated costs and would be rejected for the bids being too low. We did one job that was massive, the parts were 18 tons each, and there were 25 of them. Boss made so much cash money on that one that he handed out christmas bonuses to everyone in the shop with more than 5 years in the place, that was equivalent to 10% gross annual wage. Finished the job 2 months ahead of schedule, and only scrapped one with a broken tap. One damn hole out of maybe 100 in each part, and they wouldn't allow us to repair it by machining off the wrecked feature and replacing it, which would have been a piece of cake, they wanted the whole thing replaced.

Madness.
 
2013-03-17 11:47:15 AM  

Girion47: was more interested in hearing one of the guys detail how to sneak a "device" onto a plane that the TSA wouldn't be able to catch.


Trivially easy. There was a test a few days ago- tester hid a (fake) bomb in his crotch, got the pat-down and everything, still made it through.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/newark_tsa_bomb_boozled_eTIZBp2X7B 2 99qO5WCWvAK
 
2013-03-17 11:50:31 AM  
Well, OK.  It doesn't really seem to me that "a pile of math" comes in - it seems more likely that you just try different antenna set ups and twiddle dials for better/worse until you get the best you can.  But if you say so...
 
2013-03-17 11:51:21 AM  
MFAWG:

Why would anybody charge 20k for 100 dollar geiger counter?

why the heck wouldn't they [if they could get away with it]?
 
2013-03-17 11:52:28 AM  

eKonk: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 350x246]
.


i291.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-17 12:00:05 PM  

ModernLuddite: What if a ton of people all bought some uranium and carried around major cities in their pockets? For the lulz?



That is an exceptionally BAD idea.

Can you imagine what would happen if some of that powder were accidentally spilled on a floor or staircase in a transportation facility, and got on the shoes of everyone who walked on it?

Chaos.
 
2013-03-17 12:00:33 PM  

Nefarious: Are they coming to vipe the vindows?


Came for this.
 
2013-03-17 12:00:48 PM  

Girion47: rohar: Girion47: rohar: Girion47: One of them had been on a sub for the Navy, he had all kinds of crazy ass stories about what happened on his boat.

As a former bubblehead, I'm acutely curious of these stories, please elaborate so as that we may judge his authenticity.

One of the many I can remember:

Sub was docked at one of those places in Southern VA.  This sub had been opened for public tours, the crew had marked the floors to show where the tourists could step, and where they couldn't(yellow zone would get you ejected, red being immediate arrest).   Apparently a high school group came through, and one kid being a smartass walked into a "red" zone and tried to push a button.   Apparently because of protocol they had to strip search the kid and turn him over to the NSA, the guy told me that the kid actually got sent to prison over the whole incident and the tours were no longer offered.

Also told me that everyone was assigned some kind of melee weapon and post in case of a boarding party.

I can't remember any of the other stories he told, I was more interested in hearing one of the guys detail how to sneak a "device" onto a plane that the TSA wouldn't be able to catch.

So a liar then?

quite possible.

Made the trip entertaining at least.


No doubt.

Turns out, after many tours of my boat, I've been through this process a few times.  We don't paint the decks ever.  If we did, we'd have to clean the paint up.  Sailors aren't in to creating more work for themselves.  We'd run tape on the decks in some places (red tape, to say "don't go beyond here") for certain sensitive areas.  We'd post a shipmate at these spots to remind those touring that you can't go here.  All sensitive gear is covered by large blankets like moving blankets and held on by cams so nobody can push any serious buttons, they can't even see them.

If someone on a tour got into trouble, we'd never respond with criminal action.  If this occurred, it was a failure of the crew, not the tourist.  We took our responsibilities seriously, and we knew who we were working for.  If we ever prosecuted a tourist, it'd cause a lot of bad press.

Oh, and there's no need for melee weapons on a submarine to defend against a boarding party.  There is so damned much weaponry and numerous perimeters of defense around those things it's not even funny.  I don't miss doing topside watch in Groton in February.  All that equipment is friggin cold against your already cold body.

/it's been 15 years since I was on the boat
//SOPs may have changed
 
2013-03-17 12:06:15 PM  

noitsnot: Well, OK.  It doesn't really seem to me that "a pile of math" comes in - it seems more likely that you just try different antenna set ups and twiddle dials for better/worse until you get the best you can.  But if you say so...


Twiddling knobs isn't an option.  You have a limited scheduled window to light up communication.  It must be right the first time which means you have to be set up when the transceiver goes live.

We schedule our communication windows to ensure the "enemy" has no idea what we're up to.  If we didn't they could perceive activity by an increase in traffic.  We can't allow that.  Because of that, the transmission must be 5/5 at the scheduled time.
 
2013-03-17 12:09:24 PM  

MFAWG: RacySmurff: doosh: Oooooh they had  Hand-Held NUCLEAR Detection Devices !!

[checks ebay for the price on a geiger counter]

Wow, the feds blew a whole c-note on each of these devices. Im-pressssed!!

Clearly you don't know much about the workings of our wonderful bureaucracy. I'm sure the government gets them wholesale. So they probably cost $13,000 +/+ (read plus or plus) $20,000 or so.

Why would anybody charge 20k for 100 dollar geiger counter?


I don't have a geiger counter, but if you're willing to pay $20k, I'll happily buy one and sell it to you.
 
2013-03-17 12:11:30 PM  
Shirley, if they'd intended to keep them super-secret they wouldn't have given them a cool name. Something like The Janitors, Telephone sanitizers or Bath wipers. No one would give them a second thought.

/DRTFA
 
2013-03-17 12:21:26 PM  
Nothing like a shot of thallium after a long hard day at work.
 
2013-03-17 12:25:32 PM  
The racism in the comments for that article is impressive. Or am I the real racist for pointing it out?
 
2013-03-17 12:34:52 PM  
"...you'll be high before too long/If you're a Viper."

lh5.ggpht.com
 
2013-03-17 12:38:06 PM  

RacySmurff: MFAWG: RacySmurff: doosh: Oooooh they had  Hand-Held NUCLEAR Detection Devices !!

[checks ebay for the price on a geiger counter]

Wow, the feds blew a whole c-note on each of these devices. Im-pressssed!!

Clearly you don't know much about the workings of our wonderful bureaucracy. I'm sure the government gets them wholesale. So they probably cost $13,000 +/+ (read plus or plus) $20,000 or so.

Why would anybody charge 20k for 100 dollar geiger counter?

Exactly.


Actually the counter is really still only $100. It's the testing to a dozen or so MIL-STDs, the equipment to perform such tests, and the documentation that the units passed the tests that adds the other $19,900.

\eyes glazing over at the thought of reading another MIL spec.
 
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