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(The Hollywood Reporter)   The makers of '2016: Obama's America' will be producing another horror film to frighten old people and conservatives   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 104
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2013-03-17 06:21:13 AM  
What would the world be like without America?  I'm sure that COULD be an interesting discussion, but I wouldn't want those assholes to lead it.
 
2013-03-17 06:25:12 AM  

Alphax: What would the world be like without America?  I'm sure that COULD be an interesting discussion, but I wouldn't want those assholes to lead it.


It would definitely make for an interesting sci-fi film in the capable hands of an established writer.

But not these hacks.
 
2013-03-17 06:58:49 AM  
DERP2:Electric Boogaloo?
 
2013-03-17 07:06:40 AM  
A hard hitting documentary focusing on the indigenous people of North America and the Middle East?  No?  Pass.
 
2013-03-17 07:18:38 AM  
What do they mean by "Without america"?

Without European explorers finding and colonising the continent?

Without the continent exisitng?

With the colonisation happening but not winning their independence from the British Crown?
 
2013-03-17 07:20:23 AM  

Mayhem_2006: What do they mean by "Without america"?

Without European explorers finding and colonising the continent?

Without the continent exisitng?

With the colonisation happening but not winning their independence from the British Crown?


Probably whatever they think sounds most Nationalistic.
 
2013-03-17 07:20:52 AM  
Ah.  Another movie to fleece the rubes out of their money.  How quaint.
 
2013-03-17 07:29:18 AM  
Great... more bullshiat for conservatives to have in their already bullshiat addled brains. These guys know they eat up fear and they use it against them and as a result make America a more shiatty country to live in. Fark these guys...
 
2013-03-17 07:53:15 AM  

Mayhem_2006: What do they mean by "Without america"?

Without European explorers finding and colonising the continent?

Without the continent exisitng?

With the colonisation happening but not winning their independence from the British Crown?


Clearly if America does not exist no one has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like
 
2013-03-17 08:01:11 AM  
The beauty of science fiction is that you can justify any story.

My predictions:

Hitler wins WWII because America doesn't enter the war, conveniently forgetting the causative political landscape roots in WWI and previous.

Without America, WWI could gave happened earlier, or not at all, because of the accelerated battle between superpowers for the colonial Americas. France, say, secures most of the upper part of the now-USA, Britain the southeast, and Spain remains a power and holds the southwest. Britain may have been more powerful. The conflicts maintaining borders through the early part of the 20th could result in many small wars that probably change the political power balance in Europe and changes the timeline that led to WWI.
 
2013-03-17 08:02:44 AM  
Oops, forgot my conclusion :

So without America there would have been no Hitler. You're welcome.
 
2013-03-17 08:06:37 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Oops, forgot my conclusion :

So without America there would have been no Hitler. You're welcome.


Amwerica caused Hitler?

You Bastards.

****

i can guarantee that whatever assumptions they make and whatever conclusions they show will all be of the nature of "Having America improves things" no matter what.
 
2013-03-17 08:07:46 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Oops, forgot my conclusion :

So without America there would have been no Hitler. You're welcome.


Well, there probably would have been.  But he would have probably stayed a starving landscape artist and not, you know, leader of a genocide.
 
2013-03-17 08:12:05 AM  

Mayhem_2006: i can guarantee that whatever assumptions they make and whatever conclusions they show will all be of the nature of "Having America improves things" no matter what.


While I think our country has the potential to be a great force of good, and has been a great force of good at times in the past, it'd be naive to think that the nation has ever acted in a way against it's own self interests.  I just wish our self interests lined up with "helping people" or at least "not farking over/blowing up brown people" a little bit more often.
 
2013-03-17 08:23:28 AM  
The comments on that story are wonderful. The entire Obama glossary is there, plus some. Either the readers of that site are far more derpy than I expected or the wingers invaded just to read the America story.
 
2013-03-17 08:24:05 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: The beauty of science fiction is that you can justify any story.

My predictions:

Hitler wins WWII because America doesn't enter the war, conveniently forgetting the causative political landscape roots in WWI and previous.

Without America, WWI could gave happened earlier, or not at all, because of the accelerated battle between superpowers for the colonial Americas. France, say, secures most of the upper part of the now-USA, Britain the southeast, and Spain remains a power and holds the southwest. Britain may have been more powerful. The conflicts maintaining borders through the early part of the 20th could result in many small wars that probably change the political power balance in Europe and changes the timeline that led to WWI.


Without the Revolutionary War, Britain may have had an easier time maintaining it's global empire or even have expanded it RULING THE ENTIRE WORLD!  Imagine, Queen Elizabeth being the High Emperor of Earth.
 
2013-03-17 08:24:33 AM  
If this one doesn't win an Oscar, they can complain of censorship...or Sharia...or something
 
2013-03-17 08:30:02 AM  

Summoner101: Without the Revolutionary War, Britain may have had an easier time maintaining it's global empire or even have expanded it RULING THE ENTIRE WORLD!  Imagine, Queen Elizabeth being the High Emperor of Earth.


My god, we'd have to spell everything with an extra "u" in everything!
 
2013-03-17 08:30:57 AM  
I know that the standards for libel against public figures are high, but there is a limit, right?

Mayhem_2006: What do they mean by "Without america"?


Guaranteed, it'll take place ten-twenty years into the future after Obama's dismantled the Constitution and replaced Jesus with Sharia socialism Nazi Kenyan usurper birth certificate communism Benghazi arugula.
 
2013-03-17 08:32:09 AM  

Shadowknight: Summoner101: Without the Revolutionary War, Britain may have had an easier time maintaining it's global empire or even have expanded it RULING THE ENTIRE WORLD!  Imagine, Queen Elizabeth being the High Emperor of Earth.

My god, we'd have to spell everything with an extra "u" in everything!


Ouh nous!
 
2013-03-17 08:47:57 AM  

Shadowknight: Summoner101: Without the Revolutionary War, Britain may have had an easier time maintaining it's global empire or even have expanded it RULING THE ENTIRE WORLD!  Imagine, Queen Elizabeth being the High Emperor of Earth.

My god, we'd have to spell everything with an extra "u" in everything!


Nope. The great vowel shortage made damned sure we wouldn't. They blamed it on a few "regionalisms", but we know the truth.

/Thursday?
 
2013-03-17 08:50:50 AM  
The reality of the Imbecile Obama is scary enough, thanks.
 
2013-03-17 08:51:36 AM  

Shadowknight: Summoner101: Without the Revolutionary War, Britain may have had an easier time maintaining it's global empire or even have expanded it RULING THE ENTIRE WORLD!  Imagine, Queen Elizabeth being the High Emperor of Earth.

My god, we'd have to spell everything with an extra "u" in everything!


Ye Oulde Souper Big Goulp
 
2013-03-17 08:57:29 AM  

armoredbulldozer: The reality of the Imbecile Obama is scary enough, thanks.



Still afraid of the scary blah man I see.
 
2013-03-17 09:00:32 AM  
Never underestimate the profit potential in telling people what they want to hear.
 
2013-03-17 09:01:47 AM  
Considering the people who like movies like this I'm going to have to say its a real short film.


[opening scene]
[Earth rotating in space]
{Narrator deep concerned voice} What if there wasn't an America?
[Earth shows the USA disappearing into the ocean leaving Canada and Mexico fine]

{Narrator} Well lets find out the answer shall we?

[cut to unnamed European country with people wearing cheap stereotypical leg avenue costumes ranging different countries]
[Camera zoom to behind and then following a white woman walking to her apartment to meet her white husband]

[Camera then cuts to Kenya]
[Kenya is shown only as a single grass hut looney tunes style with 50 "africans" in it]
  (dir note: couldn't find real africans willing to participate so spray painted 50 rednecks with old engine enamel for black-face)

[Camera zooms on "smallest" one]
 (dir note 2: smallest we could find was 5'6 and 400lbs)
{smallest} Damn I wish I had a white woman right now!.... oh I mean umbuta buta buta *click*click*click* (did i say that right director?)

[Screen shows current White house Portrait of Barack Obama]
[image of Barack Obama fades away slowly]
   (dir note 3: Gotta use same effect from Back to the Future)

[Camera cuts back to image of Earth rotating in space}
[Oceans are gurgling, tsunamis are created as the USA emerges from the waters with a civilization that rivals Atlantis but with Confederate flags]

{Narrator sarcastically} Gee thanks Obama.

[End Credits]
 
2013-03-17 09:05:21 AM  
History without America: the Sioux consolidate power, forming a superpower rivaling the strength of Britain; and African nations, strengthened by the retention of their most powerful warriors and breeding females, rise against Colonal oppressors and invade Europe. White skin slowly disappears as the brown and red folks come to dominate the gene pool, producing a delicious hot cocoa skin tone.
 
2013-03-17 09:07:13 AM  

armoredbulldozer: The reality of the Imbecile Obama is scary enough, thanks.


Why is Imbecile capitalized?

I mean even when TPOC uses 0 instead of an O for Obama, it has some meaning. Regardless of how childish  and immature it was.
 
2013-03-17 09:07:45 AM  
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2013-03-17 09:09:54 AM  

Alphax: What would the world be like without America?  I'm sure that COULD be an interesting discussion, but I wouldn't want those assholes to lead it.


Well, Iran would have enjoyed a western-style democracy since the 50s, there would have been no Saddam Hussein in Iraq, Israel would have had to manage without US support, the islamist BS we're seeing these days would probably never have happened, and everything south of the US would not have had to deal with US interference or the War on Drugs ...
 
2013-03-17 09:13:09 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Hitler wins WWII because America doesn't enter the war,


No.

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The US entered the european theatre because they didn't want a Europe dominated by a victorious USSR. The German defeat was already a certainty by then.
 
2013-03-17 09:14:56 AM  

Uncle Tractor: and everything south of the US would not have had to deal with US interference or the War on Drugs ...


...existed because it's part of the hypothetical non-existant America.
 
2013-03-17 09:16:13 AM  
I tried to watch '2016' on election night as an exercise in drunken schadenfreude but couldn't get past the first 20 minutes of that preening git, Desnooza.  I might try again next election night, just to reality check their predictions.
 
2013-03-17 09:20:37 AM  
It's very simple: without America!, the Nazis take over half of the world, the Soviets take over 1/4, the Japanese Empire takes the final 1/4.  At least, that's what the simpletons of this movie will say.
 
2013-03-17 09:21:27 AM  
Have these people been outed at Democrats yet? I find it hard to believe they're actually Republicans when their entire purpose seems to be to ensure the GOP goes further into the derpy abyss.
 
2013-03-17 09:25:36 AM  

Rann Xerox: Ah.  Another movie to fleece the rubes out of their money.  How quaint.


It's too bad I have ethics. It's very easy to make money from scared conservatives.
 
2013-03-17 09:29:39 AM  
I can't wait til this generation finally dies off. Looks like they won't go quietly though.
 
2013-03-17 09:37:10 AM  
Tin-foil hat time: Am I wrong thinking this is a rope-ad-ope scheme to trick libruls (who can actually think critically and honestly about our country) into countering with arguments about bad things our nation has done and make us look bad?
 
2013-03-17 09:40:19 AM  
Derision coming from the party who has started repairing the commercial of paul ryan pushing grandma off a cliff... yeah. Your faux outrage is on record.
 
2013-03-17 09:44:39 AM  

Uncle Tractor: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Hitler wins WWII because America doesn't enter the war,

No.

[i560.photobucket.com image 640x600]

The US entered the european theatre because they didn't want a Europe dominated by a victorious USSR. The German defeat was already a certainty by then.


That'll teach people to start a land war in Asia.
 
2013-03-17 09:44:41 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Tin-foil hat time: Am I wrong thinking this is a rope-ad-ope scheme to trick libruls (who can actually think critically and honestly about our country) into countering with arguments about bad things our nation has done and make us look bad?


Yes
 
2013-03-17 09:49:05 AM  

MyRandomName: Derision coming from the party who has started repairing the commercial of paul ryan pushing grandma off a cliff... yeah. Your faux outrage is on record.


I see you can't tell the difference between outrage and just general mocking.

Seems to be a problem common with Conservatives.
 
2013-03-17 09:49:09 AM  
"President Obama looks at America as an oppressive force," D'Souza said, "while I and millions of others around the world have a different view - that America has been a great blessing to its own people and to the world."

His whole premise is flawed.  He is making a strawman argument.

Obama does not see American as an entirely oppressive force, though one would have to be willfully blind to deny that the U.S. has committed acts of oppression at home and abroad.
 
2013-03-17 09:51:27 AM  

actualhuman: Clearly if America does not exist no one has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like


Gov. Palin?  Is that you?
 
2013-03-17 10:04:17 AM  

Generation_D: I can't wait til this generation finally dies off. Looks like they won't go quietly though.


I don't know why you see it as a generational thing.  In my constellation of family and co-workers, the republican derpers are just as likely to be young as old.

The only thing that I see dying off is racism, misogyny and homophobia.

However, demonizing the poor, the denial of global warming, the "Obamacare is socialism," abortion causes hurricanes (which is at least consistent with global warming denialism), tax cuts create jobs (and its corollary - raising the min wage destroys jobs), the government is stealing their money -- all this derp is alive and well with younger people.
 
2013-03-17 10:05:15 AM  

Summoner101: Queen Elizabeth being the High Emperor of Earth.


Isn't she now as a member of the Trilateral Commission?
 
2013-03-17 10:07:41 AM  
This can mean only one thing... the first POS movie made money.

/meh
 
2013-03-17 10:09:31 AM  

Generation_D: I can't wait til this generation finally dies off. Looks like they won't go quietly though.


The supply of paranoid old people is endless.
 
2013-03-17 10:11:13 AM  

Uncle Tractor: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Hitler wins WWII because America doesn't enter the war,

No.

[i560.photobucket.com image 640x600]

The US entered the european theatre because they didn't want a Europe dominated by a victorious USSR. The German defeat was already a certainty by then.


While true, America was involved long before officially entering the European theater
 
2013-03-17 10:51:16 AM  

Crunch61: Uncle Tractor: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Hitler wins WWII because America doesn't enter the war,

No.

[i560.photobucket.com image 640x600]

The US entered the european theatre because they didn't want a Europe dominated by a victorious USSR. The German defeat was already a certainty by then.

While true, America was involved long before officially entering the European theater


It's not true either.  The Eastern Front suffered pretty atrocious losses because of Russian Winter™ but there is no "certainty" that Stalingrad would have gone the way it did or that the Western Front would have still existed at all if the US hadn't been supplying arms and equipment and slowly gearing up to join the fight.  If Britain had surrendered, or cut a treaty (for example) things would be a lot different.
 
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