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(Click On Detroit)   Southwest Airlines is so cool and unconventional, even their planes high-five each other   (clickondetroit.com) divider line 77
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2013-03-16 10:32:53 PM  
cl.jroo.me
 
2013-03-16 10:35:27 PM  
I said www.rjm-aero.com
 
Rat
2013-03-16 10:35:56 PM  
The reporter used the term "crashed".  This was an aeronautical fender bender.  Unless, of course, all the passengers assumed crash position prior to the incident.
 
Rat
2013-03-16 10:37:18 PM  
i235.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-16 10:37:53 PM  
O.K. I'm not a great grammar Nazi but after watching the video I am pretty sure the plural of aircraft is "aircraft" not "aircrafts".
 
2013-03-16 10:41:21 PM  
Detroit still has an operating airport?
 
2013-03-16 10:41:59 PM  
I've flown to Detroit only once. After circling for about 25 minutes (with on-time arrival), the pilot comes on to say we're finally cleared for landing. We start heading down, suddenly the plane shifts upward quickly. Pilot comes back on, apologizes and tells us we're going to have to circle a bit longer, there was another plane already on the landing strip. I've been left with the impression they aren't terribly competent there.
 
2013-03-16 10:42:01 PM  
Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

www.annarbor.com
 
2013-03-16 10:43:53 PM  

IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: O.K. I'm not a great grammar Nazi but after watching the video I am pretty sure the plural of aircraft is "aircraft" not "aircrafts".


Aeroplanes.
 
2013-03-16 10:44:39 PM  

BigRightRear: Detroit still has an operating airport?


Yes.  It's outside the actual city.
 
2013-03-16 10:45:21 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]


Damn! Those must have been some massive winglets.
 
2013-03-16 10:45:36 PM  
thats why I always back into my spot when taxiing.
 
2013-03-16 10:46:39 PM  
I'm not exactly surprised. That said, its not a big deal by any stretch.
 
2013-03-16 10:47:08 PM  
www.intomobile.com
 
2013-03-16 10:49:46 PM  
Come on Southwest, now is not the right time for your planes to go Hipster on us!
 
2013-03-16 10:53:25 PM  
This is not the airline's fault but the airport's shiatty ground crew :(
 
2013-03-16 10:55:49 PM  
And all the passengers were punished by staying Detroit even longer.
 
2013-03-16 10:56:05 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]


Ever since hearing about the cause of that wreck, I've developed the habit of making sure the flaps are deployed on any aircraft I happen to be a passenger in. Thankfully, they always have been, because I'm not entirely sure anybody would take a passenger yelling something about a lack of flaps seriously enough to alert the cockpit.
 
2013-03-16 10:56:05 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]


What the holy hell happened there?
 
2013-03-16 10:56:19 PM  
Maybe they shoulda tried a brofist instead?
 
2013-03-16 10:57:19 PM  

Show_The_O_Face: And all the passengers were punished by staying Detroit even longer.


Well, at least one plane load of them (well, if you can call a 737 with 38 pax a planeload) were headed to STL, which isn't much of an improvement over Detroit.
 
2013-03-16 11:00:41 PM  

hundreddollarman: Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]

What the holy hell happened there?


Plane crashed on takeoff because pilots disabled the slats-and-flaps-aren't-deployed-you-morons warning sound, then (surprise) failed to deploy the high-lift devices.  One survivor, a baby.  She's in her 20s now.
 
2013-03-16 11:02:15 PM  
There was a thread about this on reddit, a passenger got a picture of the wing:  http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1aet1e/heard_a_loud_scraping_sou n d_when_my_plane_was/.
 
2013-03-16 11:02:21 PM  

buzzcut73: Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]

Ever since hearing about the cause of that wreck, I've developed the habit of making sure the flaps are deployed on any aircraft I happen to be a passenger in. Thankfully, they always have been, because I'm not entirely sure anybody would take a passenger yelling something about a lack of flaps seriously enough to alert the cockpit.


So I'm not the only one.....
 
2013-03-16 11:03:15 PM  

hundreddollarman: Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]

What the holy hell happened there?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_255
 
2013-03-16 11:03:15 PM  
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buzzcut73: Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]

Ever since hearing about the cause of that wreck, I've developed the habit of making sure the flaps are deployed on any aircraft I happen to be a passenger in. Thankfully, they always have been, because I'm not entirely sure anybody would take a passenger yelling something about a lack of flaps seriously enough to alert the cockpit.


I think they are referring to Northwest Flight 255, where after an interruption, the pilots forgot to complete one of the pre flight checklists. Yes, the one that included extending the flaps.
 
2013-03-16 11:07:05 PM  
denver.mylittlefacewhen.com
 
2013-03-16 11:08:32 PM  

hundreddollarman: Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]

What the holy hell happened there?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_255
 
2013-03-16 11:10:47 PM  

Scorpius.Raven: hundreddollarman: Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]

What the holy hell happened there?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_255


If my heart were a tiny fist, I would shake it at thee.

Serves me right for reading the article before linking it.

/fascinated by NTSB plane crash reconstruction
 
2013-03-16 11:11:51 PM  
Very little damage huh?

/that's some fine reporting there lou
 
2013-03-16 11:13:10 PM  
Er.. Stupid Fark

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-16 11:14:06 PM  

malaktaus: There was a thread about this on reddit, a passenger got a picture of the wing:  http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1aet1e/heard_a_loud_scraping_sou n d_when_my_plane_was/.


And I just saw this..  Whoops..
 
2013-03-16 11:22:57 PM  

beefboxer: This is not the airline's fault but the airport's shiatty ground crew :(


I think this was either Boeings or Airbuses fault (to be determined once we look up the type of aircraft).
 
2013-03-16 11:23:50 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: hundreddollarman: Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]

What the holy hell happened there?

Plane crashed on takeoff because pilots disabled the slats-and-flaps-aren't-deployed-you-morons warning sound, then (surprise) failed to deploy the high-lift devices.  One survivor, a baby.  She's in her 20s now.


Just read about it.  Two persons on the ground killed as well.  All those little yellow hankies in that picture above are covered remains.

/sad
//there's a video documentary somewhere where she talks about it.  Sole Survivor
 
2013-03-16 11:25:27 PM  
DTW is actually a very large airport.  It's one of the major Delta hubs....one entire terminal at DTW is just nothing but Delta.  The other is every other airline.  A lot of flights going to/from east asia go through DTW.

And if you're driving on I-94 at just the right time, you can experience a plane coming in for a landing, right over your car.
 
2013-03-16 11:30:16 PM  
gee, the article said that no "substantial" damage was found. That certainly looks substantial to me. Admittedly, all they have to do is remove or replace the winglet and they can ferry it, but that is still "substantial" by most definitions.
 
2013-03-16 11:31:14 PM  
I salvaged Flight 1482 http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19901203-1 back in 1990-something, and in the next bay were the remnants of Flight 255...totally unrecognizable pile of scrap metal. How someone survived that is beyond belief.
 
2013-03-16 11:32:58 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Plane crashed on takeoff because pilots disabled the slats-and-flaps-aren't-deployed-you-morons warning sound, then (surprise) failed to deploy the high-lift devices.


So normally, they make the wings larger for takeoff/landing to provide more lift at lower speeds, right?  But in this case they failed to do that, so there wasn't sufficient lift and the plane stalled/crashed?

Isn't that something they would have noticed as soon as they pulled back on the yoke during takeoff?  How did it become airborne at all?
 
2013-03-16 11:34:45 PM  
In other words, the aviation version of

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-16 11:34:57 PM  
With a helpful video of what an airport might look like.
 
2013-03-16 11:40:31 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]


The depth of field in that photograph is absolutely blowing my mind. Considering the intersection with the "Detroit Metro Airport" sign pointing to the left is Goddard, it's amazing how that long of a lens can make a quarter mile or so look like fifty feet.

/former Detroiter
 
2013-03-16 11:40:33 PM  

Gyrfalcon: With a helpful video of what an airport might look like.


That video of the gate really helps illustrate exactly what happened.  You can see where the plane would be parked and everything.
 
2013-03-16 11:41:50 PM  

spawn73: beefboxer: This is not the airline's fault but the airport's shiatty ground crew :(

I think this was either Boeings or Airbuses fault (to be determined once we look up the type of aircraft).


B737 - All Southwest flies. You can also tell by the winglets (the little upturned bits that rubbed) - A320s don't have those, 737s do.
 
2013-03-16 11:48:27 PM  

Scorpius.Raven: hundreddollarman: Popcorn Johnny: Speaking of Detroit Metro, I was about a mile north on Middlebelt road when this happened.

[www.annarbor.com image 400x258]

What the holy hell happened there?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_255


Wow, my first simulpost ever, with exactly the same linkie!
 
2013-03-16 11:50:28 PM  

ambassador_ahab: Gyrfalcon: With a helpful video of what an airport might look like.

That video of the gate really helps illustrate exactly what happened.  You can see where the plane would be parked and everything.


I like that they showed us how the passengers put their luggage on the plane. Gives it a sense of really being there.
 
2013-03-16 11:51:25 PM  

crass751: spawn73: beefboxer: This is not the airline's fault but the airport's shiatty ground crew :(

I think this was either Boeings or Airbuses fault (to be determined once we look up the type of aircraft).

B737 - All Southwest flies. You can also tell by the winglets (the little upturned bits that rubbed) - A320s don't have those, 737s do.


So, it was a Boeing Airbus, then.

/apparently, I have to point out when I snark, else someone will take this seriously, maybe even threaten me with their Glock AK-47
 
2013-03-16 11:53:23 PM  

ambassador_ahab: JohnAnnArbor: Plane crashed on takeoff because pilots disabled the slats-and-flaps-aren't-deployed-you-morons warning sound, then (surprise) failed to deploy the high-lift devices.

So normally, they make the wings larger for takeoff/landing to provide more lift at lower speeds, right?  But in this case they failed to do that, so there wasn't sufficient lift and the plane stalled/crashed?

Isn't that something they would have noticed as soon as they pulled back on the yoke during takeoff?  How did it become airborne at all?


Just enough lift to take off, not enough to climb out normally.
 
2013-03-16 11:57:01 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Just enough lift to take off, not enough to climb out normally.


Would it not have behaved abnormally even then?  Perhaps when it was time to "rotate" the plane didn't become airborne as soon as expected or something?

Seems like there would have been something noticeably different for a seasoned pilot, but I'm not a pilot so I wouldn't know.
 
2013-03-16 11:57:29 PM  
Southwest sucks as an airline in general, this indecent is only the tip of the iceberg.
 
2013-03-16 11:57:51 PM  

ambassador_ahab: JohnAnnArbor: Plane crashed on takeoff because pilots disabled the slats-and-flaps-aren't-deployed-you-morons warning sound, then (surprise) failed to deploy the high-lift devices.

So normally, they make the wings larger for takeoff/landing to provide more lift at lower speeds, right?  But in this case they failed to do that, so there wasn't sufficient lift and the plane stalled/crashed?

Isn't that something they would have noticed as soon as they pulled back on the yoke during takeoff?  How did it become airborne at all?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_%28aircraft%29
 
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