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2013-03-16 09:10:49 PM

unchellmatt: Mincer: Dr Who is a kids show. Grow the fark up!

/my kids loved it
//but then they started asking questions
///why Fark.com not ask questions?

Grew up watching Dr. Who (Tom Baker was my first). If I've got to "Grow Up" and stop watching Dr. Who, thanks but no thanks. Matter of fact, I watch it with my daughter. Best bonding experience I can imagine is discussing our favorite episodes. Well, aside from which "Supernatural" episodes and what the earliest moments of the universe, say in the 10−11 seconds, would have been like.

If chatting away about the formation of baryons and in the blink of an eye having a heated debate about which was the cooler vehicle, the Tardis or a '67 Impala, with my child then dang it, I don't want to be right!


Doing fatherhood right dot jaypegg

/we're both early forties right?
 
2013-03-16 09:31:44 PM
I peed a little from excitement. Can't. Wait.

/Haters gonna hate
//and not pee themselves
 
2013-03-16 09:58:21 PM

Snapper Carr: ArcadianRefugee: For those with AdBlock (et al) and don't wish to try to figure out which of the various sub-sites you need to enable to show the "exclusive" video, here it is on YouTube via the BBC: Link.

Also: Time Bandit?

Warwick Davis at 0:08

/*squee*


F*cking Hell Awesome.
 
2013-03-16 10:18:15 PM
Does anyone have insight on where to get classic who episodes online? I'd like to watch from the beginning and keep the flow as much as possible, but haven't been able to find them in one spot. I know there's some completely lost episodes, but I'd like to be able to watch the whole story for once and not just pieces.
 
2013-03-16 10:23:07 PM

Wasn't Looking at his Neck: How about Troughtons that aren't Tomb, War Games, Ice Warriors, and Mind Robber?


Sadly, there aren't many more that are complete. "The Invasion" has a bunch of animated reconstructions, and is pretty fantastic. The Cybermen look their best in that. "Seeds of Death" is the second Ice Warriors story, and it's pretty solid.
 
2013-03-16 10:26:45 PM

jennies1897: Does anyone have insight on where to get classic who episodes online? I'd like to watch from the beginning and keep the flow as much as possible, but haven't been able to find them in one spot. I know there's some completely lost episodes, but I'd like to be able to watch the whole story for once and not just pieces.


Aside from Netflix?
 
2013-03-16 10:27:58 PM
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2013-03-16 10:28:12 PM

Tax Boy: ApatheticMonkey: Is anyone else wondering if Clara is going to die in every episode a la Kenny from South Park?  I mean, she has died in every episode she's been in so far.

They tried that already

[doctorwhotv.co.uk image 538x720]


The best part about that cartoon is that Rory only died on *two of those occasions. Canton firing a blank at him, the "Dreamlord" incident and House's projections into Amy's brain hardly count as a death.

*Personally, I don't count "needs CPR for a bit" as a death either, but obviously that's just me.

Wasn't Looking at his Neck: Cool, not yet seen and also on Netflix. Thanks. How about Troughtons that aren't Tomb, War Games, Ice Warriors, and Mind Robber?


Keep in mind that Toughton was the Doctor that first encountered The Great Intelligence. Those episodes would be worth a watch because they will in some way be tied to a story arc that started with The Snowmen.
 
2013-03-16 10:30:58 PM

Shadow Blasko: jennies1897: Does anyone have insight on where to get classic who episodes online? I'd like to watch from the beginning and keep the flow as much as possible, but haven't been able to find them in one spot. I know there's some completely lost episodes, but I'd like to be able to watch the whole story for once and not just pieces.

Aside from Netflix?


And Amazon Prime Instant Watch.
 
2013-03-16 10:31:02 PM

MikeSass: That's what, 4 whole episodes anymore?


Replace this line with a full page rant on retardedly short tv show "seasons"
 
2013-03-16 10:31:45 PM

Shadow Blasko: jennies1897: Does anyone have insight on where to get classic who episodes online? I'd like to watch from the beginning and keep the flow as much as possible, but haven't been able to find them in one spot. I know there's some completely lost episodes, but I'd like to be able to watch the whole story for once and not just pieces.

Aside from Netflix?


Stupid me, I just assumed Netflix did not have them for some reason. I'll have to check it out.
 
2013-03-16 10:31:59 PM

MikeSass: Oooh, a new season!  That's what, 4 whole episodes anymore?  Well, spank my botty and color me impressed!


What are you talking about? They haven't even gotten to the half way mark of this season yet.
 
2013-03-16 10:32:43 PM

Surool: FirstNationalBastard: Damn, that's only two weeks out.

/time for Matt Smith to finally shine (hopefully).

If you haven't seen the greatness in the last few seasons, don't bother.


This season has been the worst since the reboot. The writing quality has dropped like a rock, and they seem to be having a contest to see which writer can show us how clever he is. Clever is a terrible quality in a writer, by the way. It's a way of avoiding actual character development and emotion. The extended Pond goodbye was excrutiating, for a character that had outlived her welcome over a season ago.

So, I too and hoping that we get back on track, rather than more flash bang look how clever we are. The trailer's talk about how important this companion is makes me think... not.
 
2013-03-16 10:37:15 PM

Hebalo: Surool: FirstNationalBastard: Damn, that's only two weeks out.

/time for Matt Smith to finally shine (hopefully).

If you haven't seen the greatness in the last few seasons, don't bother.

This season has been the worst since the reboot. The writing quality has dropped like a rock, and they seem to be having a contest to see which writer can show us how clever he is. Clever is a terrible quality in a writer, by the way. It's a way of avoiding actual character development and emotion. The extended Pond goodbye was excrutiating, for a character that had outlived her welcome over a season ago.

So, I too and hoping that we get back on track, rather than more flash bang look how clever we are. The trailer's talk about how important this companion is makes me think... not.


Feel free to stop watching at any time. After Star Trek: TNG, I couldn't make it through more than one season (maximum) of the other spin-offs. I stopped watching and whined about it to exactly no one. I don't understand how somebody can keep watching a show for years after they stopped liking it. Do the world a favor and stop. You'll be a better person for it.
 
2013-03-16 10:39:10 PM
Mmmm.  New seasons of Doctor Who AND Venture Brothers coming up.
 
2013-03-16 10:41:35 PM

rynthetyn: Shadow Blasko: jennies1897: Does anyone have insight on where to get classic who episodes online? I'd like to watch from the beginning and keep the flow as much as possible, but haven't been able to find them in one spot. I know there's some completely lost episodes, but I'd like to be able to watch the whole story for once and not just pieces.

Aside from Netflix?

And Amazon Prime Instant Watch.



Look up a wiki list of the serials, and check here.
 
2013-03-16 10:46:30 PM
I'm one of those people who has access to BBC America, but refuses to watch Doctor Who on that channel. It's crappy as hell on there. They chop it up, dumb it down with a lame intro, and then stop all the action to insert commercials. DAMN, I hate commercials!

If you have a VPN, you can get the uncut version pretty easy from the BBC web site, providing the VPN has a UK locale available.

And of course, there are other ways to see it uncut. Amazon, iTunes, P2P, etc. It all depends on whether or not you want to pay for the channel and then pay for the episodes as they are released. That's up to you.
 
2013-03-16 10:56:01 PM
hopefully this Doctor will finally die and get a good actor to replace him
 
2013-03-16 10:58:23 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Venture Brothers


when?
 
2013-03-16 11:00:47 PM

ZeroCorpse: I'm one of those people who has access to BBC America, but refuses to watch Doctor Who on that channel. It's crappy as hell on there. They chop it up, dumb it down with a lame intro, and then stop all the action to insert commercials. DAMN, I hate commercials!

If you have a VPN, you can get the uncut version pretty easy from the BBC web site, providing the VPN has a UK locale available.

And of course, there are other ways to see it uncut. Amazon, iTunes, P2P, etc. It all depends on whether or not you want to pay for the channel and then pay for the episodes as they are released. That's up to you.


I didn't have BBCA until recently. I watched 11's first episode, they cut the baked beans and bacon "you're Scottish, fry something!". But the part that killed it was when the Bell sounded and the Doctor rushed back to the tardis "I'll be back" "People always say that . . ."
They cut the Doctor's response of "Do I look like people?"!

It's a simple little 10 second edit for commercials, but it helped establish how 11 sees himself. And it was touching.
 
2013-03-16 11:20:16 PM
Isn't it about time for Matt Smith to morph into an interesting character?
 
2013-03-16 11:30:25 PM

SpdrJay: Isn't it about time for Matt Smith to morph into an interesting character?


Apparently Americans can be fascinated with any bugger with a British accent... interesting and talented actors? Pfffft....
 
2013-03-16 11:39:23 PM

jennies1897: Shadow Blasko: jennies1897: Does anyone have insight on where to get classic who episodes online? I'd like to watch from the beginning and keep the flow as much as possible, but haven't been able to find them in one spot. I know there's some completely lost episodes, but I'd like to be able to watch the whole story for once and not just pieces.

Aside from Netflix?

Stupid me, I just assumed Netflix did not have them for some reason. I'll have to check it out.


you know when I'm in london, I like to ride the TUBE. i think that it moves us closer to new dw episodes PLUS, it is underground, it's trains arrive on the DOT, but hopefully it is clean. those are all things important to ME.
 
2013-03-16 11:51:47 PM

jennies1897: Does anyone have insight on where to get classic who episodes online? I'd like to watch from the beginning and keep the flow as much as possible, but haven't been able to find them in one spot. I know there's some completely lost episodes, but I'd like to be able to watch the whole story for once and not just pieces.


The bay of pirate.
 
2013-03-16 11:57:26 PM

MurphyMurphy: when?


SOON.

May 19th, iirc.
 
2013-03-16 11:58:40 PM

demonfaerie: Doctor Who fans take this show way to farking seriously.


1.  Mind telling that to fans of "The Walking Dead", "Breaking Bad", and just about every hit series that had a following?

2.  You must be fun at parties.
 
2013-03-17 12:00:57 AM

ActionJoe: I wish the show could be reset back to a time when the Daleks were just starting to become a threat again. There is a great story in having the Doctor being the last Time Lord and thinking all the Daleks are gone only to have his greatest enemy show up again. It makes it scary and also very disheartening to see how much the Doctor sacrificed just to have it all be for nothing. It could have been a very long running theme that even though the Time War is over he still has his worst enemy out there. But they ended up condensing all of that into one season finale. Wasted potential. Now the Daleks are a throw away bad guy that is rarely a threat and not that scary. While a couple episodes show the Doctor's anger and remorse at fighting them, it never seems to compare to Eccelston's reaction in Dalek.


So, obviously, you never saw "Victory of the Daleks" and "Asylum of the Daleks" or anything related to the first new season.
 
2013-03-17 12:03:35 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Mmmm.  New seasons of Doctor Who AND Venture Brothers coming up.


Finally!  Decent farking TV for once.

/Noted exceptions: "South Park", "Archer"...
 
2013-03-17 12:20:16 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Really?  I knew Downton was chopped up but I didn't realize Dr Who was too.


Everything on BBCA is butchered. Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes didn't even make sense sometimes after the cuts took out that which was later referenced.
 
2013-03-17 12:30:01 AM

The_Time_Master: jennies1897: Does anyone have insight on where to get classic who episodes online? I'd like to watch from the beginning and keep the flow as much as possible, but haven't been able to find them in one spot. I know there's some completely lost episodes, but I'd like to be able to watch the whole story for once and not just pieces.

The bay of pirate.


There's a torrent titled "Doctor Who - The Complete Classic 26 Seasons Collection + Extras". It has every single episode, plus the various DVD extras like interviews, featurettes, documentary shorts, inter alia.  Even the lost episodes are there, reconstructed with their original audio and either animation or production stills. Just run a search for that torrent in Vuze or some other torrent client.
 
2013-03-17 12:50:25 AM

HopScotchNSoda: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Really?  I knew Downton was chopped up but I didn't realize Dr Who was too.

Everything on BBCA is butchered. Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes didn't even make sense sometimes after the cuts took out that which was later referenced.


They need to do what they now do with Top Gear. The new Top Gear episodes run 1:20 so they can air the whole show with the requisite commercials.
 
2013-03-17 01:00:54 AM

Surool: Hebalo: Surool: FirstNationalBastard: Damn, that's only two weeks out.

/time for Matt Smith to finally shine (hopefully).

If you haven't seen the greatness in the last few seasons, don't bother.

This season has been the worst since the reboot. The writing quality has dropped like a rock, and they seem to be having a contest to see which writer can show us how clever he is. Clever is a terrible quality in a writer, by the way. It's a way of avoiding actual character development and emotion. The extended Pond goodbye was excrutiating, for a character that had outlived her welcome over a season ago.

So, I too and hoping that we get back on track, rather than more flash bang look how clever we are. The trailer's talk about how important this companion is makes me think... not.

Feel free to stop watching at any time. After Star Trek: TNG, I couldn't make it through more than one season (maximum) of the other spin-offs. I stopped watching and whined about it to exactly no one. I don't understand how somebody can keep watching a show for years after they stopped liking it. Do the world a favor and stop. You'll be a better person for it.


So, basically, don't have an opinion if it doesn't match yours?

t3knomanser: Wasn't Looking at his Neck: How about Troughtons that aren't Tomb, War Games, Ice Warriors, and Mind Robber?

Sadly, there aren't many more that are complete. "The Invasion" has a bunch of animated reconstructions, and is pretty fantastic. The Cybermen look their best in that. "Seeds of Death" is the second Ice Warriors story, and it's pretty solid.


Yep. There are (IIRC) 6 complete Troughton serials, and two or three that are animated (or being partially animated) to complete them. That's it.

The BBC did a number on Troughton's era when they were still wiping tapes in the 70s.
 
2013-03-17 01:57:22 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: There were a few decent Martha episodes, and I know "Love and Monsters" is widely hated (though I liked it quite a bit),


I actually love that episode and was kinda surprised to hear that it was so hated. It turned me onto ELO for one. Though the ending *is* a little weird.
 
2013-03-17 02:22:07 AM

Comsamvimes: whizbangthedirtfarmer: There were a few decent Martha episodes, and I know "Love and Monsters" is widely hated (though I liked it quite a bit),

I actually love that episode and was kinda surprised to hear that it was so hated. It turned me onto ELO for one. Though the ending *is* a little weird.


Marc Warren makes the episode bearable...but only just (to this day I can't hear the opening notes of Mr Blue Sky without picturing him jumping on the bed which makes me giggle). I did sort of like the wacky Scooby Doo-like opening though.
 
2013-03-17 02:26:40 AM

Comsamvimes: whizbangthedirtfarmer: There were a few decent Martha episodes, and I know "Love and Monsters" is widely hated (though I liked it quite a bit),

I actually love that episode and was kinda surprised to hear that it was so hated. It turned me onto ELO for one. Though the ending *is* a little weird.


Hey, who doesn't want to get blown by a cement tile?
 
2013-03-17 02:28:29 AM

Comsamvimes: whizbangthedirtfarmer: There were a few decent Martha episodes, and I know "Love and Monsters" is widely hated (though I liked it quite a bit),

I actually love that episode and was kinda surprised to hear that it was so hated. It turned me onto ELO for one. Though the ending *is* a little weird.


^^ what coms said, All the places I'd heard ELO in my life and I just never got into them until after that episode.

So many things to love about that episode. The Scooby-Doo/Benny-hill different doors in the hallway schtick was great.

Anyone know offhand where that started?
 
2013-03-17 02:29:32 AM

Shadow Blasko: jennies1897: Does anyone have insight on where to get classic who episodes online? I'd like to watch from the beginning and keep the flow as much as possible, but haven't been able to find them in one spot. I know there's some completely lost episodes, but I'd like to be able to watch the whole story for once and not just pieces.

Aside from a tiny smattering of episodes on Netflix?


FTFY.

It's great that Netflix has some classic "Who," but it most certainly would not in any way, shape or form help jennies1897 "watch from the beginning and keep the flow as much as possible."

Netflix has only one Hartnell, one Troughton, four Pertwee, and a handful of Baker, two Davison, and one McCoy.
 
2013-03-17 02:34:42 AM

Rwa2play: demonfaerie: Doctor Who fans take this show way to farking seriously.

1.  Mind telling that to fans of "The Walking Dead", "Breaking Bad", and just about every hit series that had a following?

2.  You must be fun at parties.


See also: people who set their clocks by when their soaps are on, pro sports fanatics, idiots who actually vote on this weeks dancer/singers/other middling talent show, etc etc...
 
2013-03-17 02:36:21 AM

FirstNationalBastard: So, basically, don't have an opinion if it doesn't match yours?


How did you get that from what I said? I said, if it has been that terrible for you for so long, stop watching. I didn't say you couldn't hate it, I just don't understand how you can keep watching. Turn off the TV and wait until the next showrunner comes along and try it again.
 
2013-03-17 02:48:05 AM

Rwa2play: demonfaerie: Doctor Who fans take this show way to farking seriously.

1.  Mind telling that to fans of "The Walking Dead", "Breaking Bad", and just about every hit series that had a following?

2.  You must be fun at parties.


I don't go biatching about a show that I watch. If I don't like something I won't watch. People seriously take Doctor Who way to seriously, and that is probably because of how popular it has become. The more popular this show has become, the more biatching about how it's not the same, and its crap. Every time there is a new Doctor that comes alone, people biatch about missing the old one etc... Same goes with companions as well. The shows you don't mention don't have huge fanboys that's biatching about every little detail about the show, and compares it to the earlier incarnations of it. Granted that is hard to do with those shows, but still. You have a right to discuss a show you like, and say its missing this or that, but completely bash about it and biatch, but still watches it just for the sake of biatching it just stupid. I know that doesn't go for everyone, but a lot of fanboys I swear watch just to find something to biatch about. It seems like with the new era of Doctor Who fans, Tennant was the first Doctor they watched, so they know the RTD era well, but once the change happened, everyone hates Smith, and Moffat for ruining I Doctor Who. They were ok with the Ponds at first, because Amy was hot, but then got of her, and that is fair enough. However, if you make any sort of criticism about the RTD holy shiat do they freak out, and even if you defend Moffat's era you get a chewing. I am honestly going by the mass majority of Doctor Who fans I know personally, and the shiat I see from time to time on the internet. I think honestly fanboys are just pissed that the Moffat era with Smith has gotten Doctor Who super popular. It is the hipster effect, once it becomes popular they hate it.

/tl;dr
 
2013-03-17 02:51:49 AM

jennies1897: Shadow Blasko: jennies1897: Does anyone have insight on where to get classic who episodes online? I'd like to watch from the beginning and keep the flow as much as possible, but haven't been able to find them in one spot. I know there's some completely lost episodes, but I'd like to be able to watch the whole story for once and not just pieces.

Aside from Netflix?

Stupid me, I just assumed Netflix did not have them for some reason. I'll have to check it out.


They used to have almost all of them streaming, but they pulled a lot of the older ones, iirc.
 
2013-03-17 03:00:23 AM

demonfaerie: /tl;dr


Actually people have always biatched about DW (don't believe me? Go check out the rec.arts.drwho usenet archives). Popularity has nothing to do with it - it's because it's a geek targeted show and geeks biatch about stuff. It's what we do. It's a side-effect of our tendency to become obsessed about stuff. Go visit a fan site of any random sci-fi/fantasy TV/movie/book series and you'll find the same thing all over the internet
 
2013-03-17 04:35:15 AM

Snapper Carr: demonfaerie: /tl;dr

Actually people have always biatched about DW (don't believe me? Go check out the rec.arts.drwho usenet archives). Popularity has nothing to do with it - it's because it's a geek targeted show and geeks biatch about stuff. It's what we do. It's a side-effect of our tendency to become obsessed about stuff. Go visit a fan site of any random sci-fi/fantasy TV/movie/book series and you'll find the same thing all over the internet


And more than a few of the ideas that Moffat tossed around on Usenet made it into the show.
 
2013-03-17 04:54:37 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Surool: I'm just tired of the whining. Seriously, you watched 2.5 years of a show you claim not to like much?

I just spent a month churning through Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and am now working my way through Star Trek: Voyager; the latter is a gods-awful show.

But I'm sticking with it. I can't talk about how DS9 failspales in comparison to Babylon 5, or how really truly terribly written Voyager was if I haven't watched it. Even if that means all of it.


That's probably the saddest thing I've ever read.  Wasting your time just to more accurately hate something meaningless...   You coulda read a book, or went jogging, or brushed up on your Spanish or something.  Picked a damn flower.  Instead you choose this.  Wow.  Fark me if you're joking, but I really am not sure that you are.
 
2013-03-17 05:39:36 AM
Those monsters do look pretty awesome.
 
2013-03-17 08:10:04 AM
I'm beginning to think that Moffat is great for one-off stories with engaging plots and characters. He stinks as a head writer though. You can tell when he / the team gets a really great idea they're really excited about and absolutely cram it in to the story with all he's / they're worth even if it's way too late for that idea in the story. It usually doesn't work out well, but the idea would have been pretty neat if it fit right.

I just pray that his idea for the new companion isn't that she's the embodiment of that snow-consciousness traipsing through time and space and only that consciousness would have been strong enough to retain its identity when Dalek'd. Smith needs a good companion. I take that back, Rory was a pretty good companion. Smith needs a balanced companion so that he doesn't get dwarfed/lost on screen again.

In Moffat I trust? Ehhh... is he all you've got?
 
2013-03-17 08:48:26 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Comsamvimes: whizbangthedirtfarmer: There were a few decent Martha episodes, and I know "Love and Monsters" is widely hated (though I liked it quite a bit),

I actually love that episode and was kinda surprised to hear that it was so hated. It turned me onto ELO for one. Though the ending *is* a little weird.

Hey, who doesn't want to get blown by a cement tile?


I think that one throwaway line was what set off a whole bunch of people, and I wonder if the show would be more roundly applauded if they hadn't included it.  The other 42 minutes were actually pretty good, and a risky take, but it had some beautiful moments (Elton's mom disappearing), and it showed the Doctor could fail, and completely, which was refreshing.  Elton's final speech was also a wonderful tribute.
 
2013-03-17 08:58:39 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I think that one throwaway line was what set off a whole bunch of people, and I wonder if the show would be more roundly applauded if they hadn't included it. The other 42 minutes were actually pretty good, and a risky take, but it had some beautiful moments (Elton's mom disappearing), and it showed the Doctor could fail, and completely, which was refreshing. Elton's final speech was also a wonderful tribute.


Just don't try to argue that anything could save 'Fear Her'.
 
2013-03-17 09:00:53 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I think that one throwaway line was what set off a whole bunch of people, and I wonder if the show would be more roundly applauded if they hadn't included it. The other 42 minutes were actually pretty good, and a risky take, but it had some beautiful moments (Elton's mom disappearing), and it showed the Doctor could fail, and completely, which was refreshing. Elton's final speech was also a wonderful tribute.

Just don't try to argue that anything could save 'Fear Her'.


Not airing it might have saved "Fear Her"  If it was only available on illegal bootlegs copied from a rough-cut smuggled out of the studio before it was sent into the incinerator, a specific subset of fans would love it.
 
2013-03-17 09:08:27 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I think that one throwaway line was what set off a whole bunch of people, and I wonder if the show would be more roundly applauded if they hadn't included it. The other 42 minutes were actually pretty good, and a risky take, but it had some beautiful moments (Elton's mom disappearing), and it showed the Doctor could fail, and completely, which was refreshing. Elton's final speech was also a wonderful tribute.

Just don't try to argue that anything could save 'Fear Her'.


Oh, goodness.  The only positive thing out of that episode was Tennant, who battled gamely on with a script you could tell he knew sucked.  It showed that he was professional enough to carry the kid, and for a few moments when they first meet, you almost believe the little girl speaking like she has a sore throat MAY be possessed by aliens.

\the Olympic torch thing was somewhat amusing, at least
\\so, about three minutes of the episode were worth saving
 
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