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2013-03-16 05:06:30 PM
Damn, that's only two weeks out.

/time for Matt Smith to finally shine (hopefully).
 
2013-03-16 05:48:52 PM
It's looking rather like we're getting an even more companion-focused series than before. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
 
2013-03-16 06:50:03 PM

rynthetyn: It's looking rather like we're getting an even more companion-focused series than before. I'm not sure how I feel about that.


BBC America trailer.
 
2013-03-16 06:51:47 PM
For those with AdBlock (et al) and don't wish to try to figure out which of the various sub-sites you need to enable to show the "exclusive" video, here it is on YouTube via the BBC: Link.

Also: Time Bandit?
 
2013-03-16 06:54:20 PM

Dwight_Yeast: BBC America trailer.


Right, sorry; mine was the BBC's, not BBCA's.
 
2013-03-16 06:54:53 PM

Dwight_Yeast: rynthetyn: It's looking rather like we're getting an even more companion-focused series than before. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

BBC America trailer.


Good point.
 
2013-03-16 06:55:39 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Damn, that's only two weeks out.

/time for Matt Smith to finally shine (hopefully).


If you haven't seen the greatness in the last few seasons, don't bother.
 
2013-03-16 07:02:29 PM

Surool: If you haven't seen the greatness in the last few seasons, don't bother.


Meh, he's going to biatch and moan for the rest of eternity. While I have a lot of complaints about the past few seasons, they've been a big step up since the RTD-era. The RTD-era was mostly terrible terrible episodes with a few gems. The Moffat era has meen mostly okay episodes with a few gems and a few stinkers. The biggest flaw is that "fun" trumps "logic".
 
2013-03-16 07:07:10 PM
BRING BACK CAPTAIN JACK!
 
2013-03-16 07:07:31 PM
I didn't realize it was already time for the new episodes. That's going to be a great weekend of TV:  new Who, new Game of Thrones, and the finale of Walking Dead.
 
2013-03-16 07:10:30 PM

t3knomanser: Surool: If you haven't seen the greatness in the last few seasons, don't bother.

Meh, he's going to biatch and moan for the rest of eternity. While I have a lot of complaints about the past few seasons, they've been a big step up since the RTD-era. The RTD-era was mostly terrible terrible episodes with a few gems. The Moffat era has meen mostly okay episodes with a few gems and a few stinkers. The biggest flaw is that "fun" trumps "logic".


I'm just tired of the whining. Seriously, you watched 2.5 years of a show you claim not to like much?
 
2013-03-16 07:17:36 PM
Dammit, wish I didn't have to wait on Netflix to add more seasons.
 
2013-03-16 07:20:06 PM
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www.bbcamerica.com

i257.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-16 07:24:33 PM

ArcadianRefugee: YouTube via the BBC


Thanks for that -- the BBC is getting a much better series than we are!

Woohoo! ice Warrior!
 
2013-03-16 07:31:01 PM

Surool: I'm just tired of the whining. Seriously, you watched 2.5 years of a show you claim not to like much?


I just spent a month churning through Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and am now working my way through Star Trek: Voyager; the latter is a gods-awful show.

But I'm sticking with it. I can't talk about how DS9 failspales in comparison to Babylon 5, or how really truly terribly written Voyager was if I haven't watched it. Even if that means all of it.
 
2013-03-16 07:33:25 PM

loser0: ArcadianRefugee: YouTube via the BBC

Thanks for that -- the BBC is getting a much better series than we are!


After realizing (learning) how BBCA chops up the shows, I torrent the BBC airings rather than watch the recorded BBCA ones. 9 times out of ten, this also means I get to watch it before BBCA airs it.
 
2013-03-16 07:33:37 PM

t3knomanser: Surool: If you haven't seen the greatness in the last few seasons, don't bother.

Meh, he's going to biatch and moan for the rest of eternity. While I have a lot of complaints about the past few seasons, they've been a big step up since the RTD-era. The RTD-era was mostly terrible terrible episodes with a few gems. The Moffat era has meen mostly okay episodes with a few gems and a few stinkers. The biggest flaw is that "fun" trumps "logic".


Wha?  The RTD era had some stinkers, but a large majority of the episodes were either great, good, or passable.  The Moffat era has had a couple of good ones, but this season has been nothing but crap so far.  This is the guy who decided to put together a series with the "movie poster" idea.  If that doesn't sound like grasping, I don't know what does.

\Family of Blood, and The Doctor Dances are probably two of the best episodes ever
 
2013-03-16 07:33:42 PM

ArcadianRefugee: For those with AdBlock (et al) and don't wish to try to figure out which of the various sub-sites you need to enable to show the "exclusive" video, here it is on YouTube via the BBC: Link.

Also: Time Bandit?


Warwick Davis at 0:08

/*squee*
 
2013-03-16 07:35:01 PM
1. Why is it that 11 looks 20 years older, aside from being soaked?
2. Did anyone else get an "Ace" vibe by Oswin's jacket?
3. Was that Tennant narrating? Yes, I pondered this before seeing 10's overcoat at 0:35.
 
2013-03-16 07:37:20 PM
Dr Who is a kids show. Grow the fark up!

/my kids loved it
//but then they started asking questions
///why Fark.com not ask questions?
 
2013-03-16 07:37:43 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: Dammit, wish I didn't have to wait on Netflix to add more seasons.


Expat Shield + BBC iPlayer

/just saying
//If I could subscribe to full episodes on BBC America streaming online I would
///at least Netflix gets Arrested Development (yippee!)
 
2013-03-16 07:40:10 PM

ArcadianRefugee: loser0: ArcadianRefugee: YouTube via the BBC

Thanks for that -- the BBC is getting a much better series than we are!

After realizing (learning) how BBCA chops up the shows, I torrent the BBC airings rather than watch the recorded BBCA ones. 9 times out of ten, this also means I get to watch it before BBCA airs it.


Really?  I knew Downton was chopped up but I didn't realize Dr Who was too.

Okay, I take it back.  I wouldn't pay for streaming Dr Who Episodes via BBC America.
 
2013-03-16 07:41:15 PM
For some reason, I'm thinking that the last three episodes are a trilogy. My guess is something like the last two are a two-parter with the one before them setting it up in the last few episodes.

Just feels like they will do something to mix up the stand-alones and build to the 50th anniversary special.

Also, when they switched from Spring to Fall, we were promised that would be the same way each year going forward with no giant gaps (to mirror American series).

Now it seems like the fall is only going to be 2 episodes (50th/Christmas).....dammit
 
2013-03-16 07:42:25 PM
Is anyone else wondering if Clara is going to die in every episode a la Kenny from South Park?  I mean, she has died in every episode she's been in so far.
 
2013-03-16 07:42:27 PM

Wasn't Looking at his Neck: 2. Did anyone else get an "Ace" vibe by Oswin's jacket?


Where does this come from? I know Bernard Sumner wears a jacket in the "Touched by the Hand of God" video that says "Ace" on the back, but that's my only reference.
 
2013-03-16 07:42:35 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Family of Blood, and The Doctor Dances are probably two of the best episodes ever


Great episodes. But there are so many terrible, terrible ones. Eccleston's finale and the episodes leading up to it- awful. Pretty much anything with Martha in it (I actually hate "Gridlock" more than "Love and Monsters"). I really, really hated the whole "Cybermen from a parallel universe" thing. It removed much of what made the Cybermen interesting, at least to me. I also hated "The Impossible Planet"/"The Satan Pit"- the only thing I enjoyed in that was the little bit of subtle fan-service on the voice acting, but in the end, it just made me wish that we had Sutekh back.
 
2013-03-16 07:43:02 PM
4. If I just finished the Pirate Planet, what story is the best to move on to that isn't the followup story?

/that one's for the classic 'vians, of course.
 
2013-03-16 07:45:13 PM

fusillade762: Where does this come from?


i131.photobucket.com
One of the classic companions. It's a pity that about half of the writers didn't know what to do with her. She's a badass who mixes up explosives for fun and once beat a Dalek down with a baseball bat- but in half her episodes she's a whiny bint who quails at danger.
 
2013-03-16 07:45:22 PM

fusillade762: Wasn't Looking at his Neck: 2. Did anyone else get an "Ace" vibe by Oswin's jacket?

Where does this come from? I know Bernard Sumner wears a jacket in the "Touched by the Hand of God" video that says "Ace" on the back, but that's my only reference.


Sorry, forgot to add that it's the one she wears when on the sub.
 
2013-03-16 07:45:34 PM

ApatheticMonkey: Is anyone else wondering if Clara is going to die in every episode a la Kenny from South Park?  I mean, she has died in every episode she's been in so far.


They tried that already

doctorwhotv.co.uk
 
2013-03-16 07:45:49 PM

Wasn't Looking at his Neck: 4. If I just finished the Pirate Planet, what story is the best to move on to that isn't the followup story?


"City of Death".
 
2013-03-16 07:47:34 PM

Mincer: Dr Who is a kids show. Grow the fark up!

/my kids loved it
//but then they started asking questions
///why Fark.com not ask questions?


Grew up watching Dr. Who (Tom Baker was my first). If I've got to "Grow Up" and stop watching Dr. Who, thanks but no thanks. Matter of fact, I watch it with my daughter. Best bonding experience I can imagine is discussing our favorite episodes. Well, aside from which "Supernatural" episodes and what the earliest moments of the universe, say in the 10−11 seconds, would have been like.

If chatting away about the formation of baryons and in the blink of an eye having a heated debate about which was the cooler vehicle, the Tardis or a '67 Impala, with my child then dang it, I don't want to be right!
 
2013-03-16 07:48:33 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: ArcadianRefugee: loser0: ArcadianRefugee: YouTube via the BBC

Thanks for that -- the BBC is getting a much better series than we are!

After realizing (learning) how BBCA chops up the shows, I torrent the BBC airings rather than watch the recorded BBCA ones. 9 times out of ten, this also means I get to watch it before BBCA airs it.

Really?  I knew Downton was chopped up but I didn't realize Dr Who was too.

Okay, I take it back.  I wouldn't pay for streaming Dr Who Episodes via BBC America.


Yeah. Because they have to edit it to insert advertising, sometimes they need to chop it down in size as well. To quote the Tardis Wikia:

BBC America is budgeted independently of the BBC. This has had some consequences for its audience. It has created the need for the channel to run advertisements to generate revenue. In some cases - such as unusually long episodes of Doctor Who like Journey's End - BBC America has aired versions missing significant portions of the BBC One versions (though it should be noted these are rebroadcasts of episodes previously aired by Syfy; BBCA did not begin airing episodes first-run until [[DW]: The Next Doctor.

In some parts of the United States, BBC America runs a secondary service called "BBC America On Demand". For an additional fee, subscribers receive largely commercial-free versions of the shows running on BBC America. Thus, in a sense the network does offer some BBC content in more or less the way it was intended to be seen.
 
2013-03-16 07:49:29 PM

ApatheticMonkey: Is anyone else wondering if Clara is going to die in every episode a la Kenny from South Park?  I mean, she has died in every episode she's been in so far.


Maybe she's trying to outdo Rory.
 
2013-03-16 07:51:14 PM

fusillade762: BRING BACK CAPTAIN JACK!


Closest you're going to get at the moment is watching Barrowman on Arrow. They just added Alex Kingston to the Arrow cast as well.
 
2013-03-16 07:52:44 PM

rynthetyn: fusillade762: BRING BACK CAPTAIN JACK!

Closest you're going to get at the moment is watching Barrowman on Arrow. They just added Alex Kingston to the Arrow cast as well.


Did that show get any better? The first couple of episodes had a "Smallville meets Dynasty" vibe that I just couldn't get into.
 
2013-03-16 07:52:46 PM

rynthetyn: fusillade762: BRING BACK CAPTAIN JACK!

Closest you're going to get at the moment is watching Barrowman on Arrow. They just added Alex Kingston to the Arrow cast as well.


You just made me interested in watching that show, despite the fact that the Green Arrow sucks.
 
2013-03-16 07:59:22 PM

t3knomanser: Wasn't Looking at his Neck: 4. If I just finished the Pirate Planet, what story is the best to move on to that isn't the followup story?

"City of Death".


Cool, not yet seen and also on Netflix. Thanks. How about Troughtons that aren't Tomb, War Games, Ice Warriors, and Mind Robber?
 
2013-03-16 08:01:13 PM

Snapper Carr: rynthetyn: fusillade762: BRING BACK CAPTAIN JACK!

Closest you're going to get at the moment is watching Barrowman on Arrow. They just added Alex Kingston to the Arrow cast as well.

Did that show get any better? The first couple of episodes had a "Smallville meets Dynasty" vibe that I just couldn't get into.


It's not a great show, but it is quite watchable and entertaining. It has been getting better with each episode as they develop the characters more and more and the show finds its footing and it's definitely better than the first few episodes were.
 
2013-03-16 08:01:59 PM

t3knomanser: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Family of Blood, and The Doctor Dances are probably two of the best episodes ever

Great episodes. But there are so many terrible, terrible ones. Eccleston's finale and the episodes leading up to it- awful. Pretty much anything with Martha in it (I actually hate "Gridlock" more than "Love and Monsters"). I really, really hated the whole "Cybermen from a parallel universe" thing. It removed much of what made the Cybermen interesting, at least to me. I also hated "The Impossible Planet"/"The Satan Pit"- the only thing I enjoyed in that was the little bit of subtle fan-service on the voice acting, but in the end, it just made me wish that we had Sutekh back.


I think this was because of the "reboot."  RTD was very aware that he was starting over with a new generation and did not want to make too many references to the classic show.  Still, I liked these guys better than the Colin Baker Cybermen, who spoke like Bela Lugosi ... "Good, good!  HAHAHAHAHA!"

There were a few decent Martha episodes, and I know "Love and Monsters" is widely hated (though I liked it quite a bit), but RTD did bring in a lot of good ones -- "Dalek," "Waters of Mars," and so on.  When I think of Moffat's run, I can only think of one or two episodes that had the same consistency as, say, "Midnight" or "Silence in the Library."

I have to say, the only episodes I wince while watching from the Tennant era are "Fear Her" and the "Daleks in Manhattan" arc.  The rest, I can sit through and have varying levels of thought/enjoyment.  Yet, when I think of Moffat's shows, I can only think of a very small handful that I actually enjoyed and wanted to see more than once--"Christmas Carol," "The God Complex," and "Vincent and the Doctor" are the only ones that leap to mind.
 
2013-03-16 08:05:51 PM
I no longer watch "Dr. Who." The production values are too good. I want to see cheesy props and clumsy special effects, like the old days. I want to see the wires the tardis is hanging from. On top of that, and I don't know if this is true of British TV in general or just this show, they don't know how to end an episode. On American TV the adventure and suspense goes on right until the very last minute, the problem is resolved and everyone high fives or someone states the important lesson they've all learned. Then it's final credits and a commercial. On Dr. Who, everything gets resolved with ten minutes to spare and the rest of the show is spent on character development and angst-y hand-wringing. They don't even set up a decent cliffhanger for the next episode. I don't remember that from the Tom Baker episodes I used to watch. It may be a British thing, but I find it disappointing, unappealing, and ultimately, annoying. I've got better things to do than watch Matt Smith get all weepy about how his best friends have been erased from time... forever! I just want to smack him.

Sorry.
 
2013-03-16 08:13:50 PM

clambam: I no longer watch "Dr. Who." The production values are too good. I want to see cheesy props and clumsy special effects, like the old days. I want to see the wires the tardis is hanging from. On top of that, and I don't know if this is true of British TV in general or just this show, they don't know how to end an episode. On American TV the adventure and suspense goes on right until the very last minute, the problem is resolved and everyone high fives or someone states the important lesson they've all learned. Then it's final credits and a commercial. On Dr. Who, everything gets resolved with ten minutes to spare and the rest of the show is spent on character development and angst-y hand-wringing. They don't even set up a decent cliffhanger for the next episode. I don't remember that from the Tom Baker episodes I used to watch. It may be a British thing, but I find it disappointing, unappealing, and ultimately, annoying. I've got better things to do than watch Matt Smith get all weepy about how his best friends have been erased from time... forever! I just want to smack him.

Sorry.


You sound like someone who would love Voyager. Effects are good enough, but the writing1 (per episode and overall) is abysmal. And they solve1 the problem1 late enough that there is usually only a minute or two to hand-wring or drive home the episode's lesson.

1 usually involving the transporter
 
2013-03-16 08:24:57 PM
Let me get it out of the way...

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~!
 
2013-03-16 08:27:37 PM
I did like Voyager. I lost interest in Deep Space Nine pretty quickly, though. TNG was pretty spotty for most of the first season, until they got to the episode where the bad guys were eating handfuls of mealworms and they blew the head off a guy and an enormous grub sticks its head out. Now that was exciting. Enterprise was dreadful, and whoever though of wasting two of the last three episodes on an "evil parallel universe" story and then jamming in the entire "founding of the Federation" story into about half an episode should be taken out and shot. I like adventure and weird aliens, not insights into the human condition as revealed by their interactions with aliens who look suspiciously like human beings in heavy make-up. If you're really interested in the human condition, there are these things called "poetry" and "literature."

In my opinion the greatest science fiction novel ever written is Jack Vance's "Tschai: Planet of Adventure." No deeper meaning, no insight into the human soul, just rollicking good adventure and the most alien aliens (and humans!) you'll ever encounter. I'd pay good money to see that in a movie theater.
 
2013-03-16 08:29:25 PM

ArcadianRefugee: For those with AdBlock (et al) and don't wish to try to figure out which of the various sub-sites you need to enable to show the "exclusive" video, here it is on YouTube via the BBC: Link.

Also: Time Bandit?


Thank you. I gave up after turning on the 5th one and there were more in the list each time.

Just watched the Christmas special last night. Still undecided about Clara so far. In this house we still miss Rose, but that may be just because she was the first in the new series, and it was SO much fun.
 
2013-03-16 08:35:42 PM

Mincer: Dr Who is a kids show. Grow the fark up!

/my kids loved it
//but then they started asking questions
///why Fark.com not ask questions?


"What's the point of being grown up if you can't act childish sometimes?"- The (fourth) Doctor
 
2013-03-16 08:38:26 PM
Doctor Who fans take this show way to farking seriously. It is a family show that yes does make you think, but you guys seriously way over think it. Nothing can please the hard core fans of this show. You know what I am wasn't a huge fan of the RTD era, only because of how much the ruined a chance to make some characters be awesome (IE Martha). Then Moffat takes over, and people are biatching about there is no more Tennant. The female Doctor Who Fans loved him, because he was hot, and to a lot of people he was the first Doctor. So there is a sentimental attachment to it, but get the fark over it. Smith is an amazing Doctor, and I love how complex he can be with his moods, feelings, and ideas. I liked the Ponds too, yes they were getting over done, but they are gone now. So shut up. Yes this season hasn't been as strong as the previous years, but to be fair the first half was set up for all the episodes to be stand alone, because all the ideas and money went to the last half of the season. This was done, because of the 50th anniversary coming up. The show is great over all, yes some episodes suck aren't good or maybe shiatty, but get the fark over it. There is no bad Doctor, not bad companion, it is all matter of opinion. If you think you can do better why don't you become a writer yourself, so you can take over Doctor Who when Moffat's run is over.

/Rantings over
/Not going to grammar check
 
2013-03-16 09:06:13 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Surool: I'm just tired of the whining. Seriously, you watched 2.5 years of a show you claim not to like much?

I just spent a month churning through Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and am now working my way through Star Trek: Voyager; the latter is a gods-awful show.

But I'm sticking with it. I can't talk about how DS9 failspales in comparison to Babylon 5, or how really truly terribly written Voyager was if I haven't watched it. Even if that means all of it.


I can watch pretty much any Doctor Who episode (original or the new) and still enjoy them.  I can't rewatch a single Star Trek episode without thinking - 'wow - this sucks'.
 
2013-03-16 09:08:52 PM
I wish the show could be reset back to a time when the Daleks were just starting to become a threat again. There is a great story in having the Doctor being the last Time Lord and thinking all the Daleks are gone only to have his greatest enemy show up again. It makes it scary and also very disheartening to see how much the Doctor sacrificed just to have it all be for nothing. It could have been a very long running theme that even though the Time War is over he still has his worst enemy out there. But they ended up condensing all of that into one season finale. Wasted potential. Now the Daleks are a throw away bad guy that is rarely a threat and not that scary. While a couple episodes show the Doctor's anger and remorse at fighting them, it never seems to compare to Eccelston's reaction in Dalek.

The Silence are a nice new underlying threat and it would be great to have them pop up randomly trying to influence events. I think there definitely needs to be a new goal in the Doctor's stories. They set one up at the end of last season but they really need to steer away from "The Doctor faces his biggest threat, potentially dying (again)" It's getting a bit old and you know he's not going to die but it's going to be some weird sequence of events. He needs a new threat and not something that involves the universe being destroyed.

Very excited for the new episodes. The break has been awkward since there wasn't much continuity and it feels like it has been forever.
 
2013-03-16 09:09:34 PM

Mincer: Dr Who is a kids show. Grow the fark up!

/my kids loved it
//but then they started asking questions
///why Fark.com not ask questions?


There are laws. There are laws of posting in DW threads. Once upon a time there were mods in charge of those laws but they died. They all died. Do you know who that leaves? Me! It's taken me all these years to realize that the laws of posting are mine and they will obey me!
 
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