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(CBS Detroit)   Student suspended over 'Hot For Teacher' essay sues Oakland University. "She was blonde and attractive in the Meg Ryan kind of way which I usually don't go for"   (detroit.cbslocal.com) divider line 26
    More: Sappy, Hot for Teacher, Meg Ryan, Oakland University, students, Joseph Corlett, CBS Radio Inc.  
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2013-03-16 06:49:49 PM
3 votes:
I agree with the school for kicking him out. The fantasy he wrote about where he rapes and dismembers his teacher must have profoundly disturbed her.

Oh wait, he only wrote her a few offhand and obnoxious compliments? Yeah, the school is insane.

Why not tell him "I know I said to write whatever you want and not be limited at all, but please refrain from writing about me or anyone else in the class" and move on.

This isn't as stupid as the pastry gun kid, but it's close. Don't overreact to an slightly annoying idiot as if he were an active shooter.
2013-03-16 06:05:10 PM
3 votes:
Sounds pretty creepy, actually.
2013-03-17 04:26:56 AM
2 votes:
The dude is a full-on creep. If you take a class so you can go home and write some masturbatory fantasies about the very teacher you're taking the class from, you're a creep. This guy had to know he was making his teacher uncomfortable with this, and I'm not buying his "Whaaaa? Lil ole meee?" defense. Now he's trolling the Uni with a Westboro-type 1st amendment defense.

He's the full package.


/You're a creep if you do this at any age. That goes for the girls, too.
2013-03-16 11:34:40 PM
2 votes:

Next week's Tom Sawyer: The lesson here is that when teachers insist students keep a journal of thoughts that might otherwise be self-censored, and when requested clarification upon requested clarification results in a repeat of the ambiguous requirements if the assignment, they should not be surprised when the entries contain things one might consider offensive.

This teacher should either lighten up, or stop teaching (in the manner she is teaching). Either way, I could give a fark less about some middle aged woman feigning outrage when she was the one pushing the limits.


This.

Back in my art school days, I was in a class where the professor asked us all to write journals during the semester.  These were to be free form diaries in which we were to write down whatever inspirations or ideas came to us, or even just treat it as creative writing or whatever.  Sort of a literary sketchbook.  Well and good.  The T.A. insisted that we bring them in so she could verify that we were complying with the instruction.  She could have given them a cursory glance, but instead she insisted that we turn them in to her so she could read them.  Most of us weren't super-comfortable with it, but I did as we were told.  About four hours later (this was a six hour studio class) she gave them all back to us with a heartfelt apology about violating our privacy....

I'm sorry.  Any teacher who assigns college students to keep a creative writing journal and then decides to read those students' journals has no grounds to complain about any of the content he or she encounters there.
2013-03-16 10:50:42 PM
2 votes:

RedVentrue: You can violate someones personal space with words.



That's the dumbest farking thing I have ever read. As someone who reads FARK daily, that's saying something.
2013-03-16 09:10:22 PM
2 votes:
Corlett, a then 56-year-old student enrolled in an advanced critical writing class, titled his journal entries "Hot For Teacher," after a song by the rock band Van Halen, as part of assignment on diary-style composition.
This actually seems pretty legit.  However, upon further inspection...


The essay goes on to describe another teacher who is "tall, blonde and stacked" in a "skirt, heels, fingernails, smile," ... He basically said, in the essay he turned in to her, that her looks were distracting.
...
In other journal entries, Corlett described sleeping in the nude with his gun and making a fellow female student uncomfortable when he looked up her number and called her home.



... the dude is just a full-on creeper.
He's using a writing assignment as an excuse to make extremely blatant sexual advances on his teachers and then using the assignment again as a scapegoat when he gets in trouble for it.
2013-03-16 07:32:39 PM
2 votes:
From one of the comment threads on the article:

I have to agree with Mr. Wallace on this issue. I too have had experiences with Mr. Corlett on campus, and on repeated occasions have bore witness to his intimidation of fellow students. Mr. Corlett has repeatedly used classroom discussion times in my class with him to make other students uncomfortable with sexist and borderline racist comments. I am, frankly, not surprised this hasn't happened sooner.

www.neontommy.com
2013-03-16 07:06:16 PM
2 votes:
This story and people who think this guy is commiting some sort of wrongdoing give Chuck Palahniuk, and other modern, A-List writers a sad. If shiat like this, which is an honest look inside this guys thought processes makes you uncomfortable, go back to reading Stephanie Meyer, FFS.
2013-03-16 06:44:51 PM
2 votes:
He's guilty of being older and not very attractive.
2013-03-16 06:39:43 PM
2 votes:
The lesson here is that when teachers insist students keep a journal of thoughts that might otherwise be self-censored, and when requested clarification upon requested clarification results in a repeat of the ambiguous requirements if the assignment, they should not be surprised when the entries contain things one might consider offensive.

This teacher should either lighten up, or stop teaching (in the manner she is teaching). Either way, I could give a fark less about some middle aged woman feigning outrage when she was the one pushing the limits.
2013-03-16 06:06:00 PM
2 votes:
You're never too young to be a dirty old man.
2013-03-16 05:59:09 PM
2 votes:
And . . . it's 1984.
2013-03-18 08:36:25 PM
1 votes:

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Fano: Dear Journal:

That Veronica Vaughn is one hot piece of ass. So hot, want to touch the heinie.

I read that in Doug Funnie's voice.


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Could be
2013-03-17 12:24:03 PM
1 votes:
CSS Time!:

When I first went to grad school, we could sign up to be Teaching Assistants, which was a decent gig, as we got paid a monthly stipend, had part of our education paid for by the university, and a few other perks. So a bunch of us signed up, and we had to take a class about how to do everything.

One of the sections covered at the end of the training was about how students can undermine the authority of instructors to the point of harassment and beyond, in either written or verbal form. This section was accompanied by a story of a Teaching Assistant that worked in the Public Speaking classes, who thought everything was going great until the day that the "freestyle" speeches were to be given (each student was allowed to write on whatever topic they wanted, and the speech had to be 3-4 minutes long).

A male student decided to wax poetic on "the perfect woman", describing her hair, her eyes, her body, and how he hoped to learn more about what was under her clothes himself, and at the end of the speech named the Teaching Assistant as whom he was writing about. That is, of course, super-inappropriate, and as the "hot for teacher" student in TFA was also inappropriate in the same vein, I can see why he was given the punishment he was from the college.

/Never been so happy to be a Plain Jane in all my life as when I was teaching
//Some of my friends got hit on by students after the students were done taking their class
///My friends were creeped out by it and always turned them down
2013-03-17 02:47:16 AM
1 votes:

Virtuoso80: 'After encouraging free-thinking and honesty on campus, we found that some guy was being honest and free-thinking in a way that was intimidating and expressed stuff we didn't want to hear, so we suspended him.'


WHAT? Where did you get that? Honesty and free thinking are fine but nobody ever encourages unfiltered honesty or free thinking without conscience.

It was a journal. He could have written anything. He could have put blatant lies about his day -- that he went to france and ate cheese with the president. That he went into space. He could have written a straight out log of what he did at what time in bullet notes. He didn't. Its not a personal journal. He wrote the journal as an assignment knowing full well it would be read and graded. The journal aspect just means they want you to write something every day. Something. The prof is there to teach, not put up with your passive aggressive creep factor. They teach university not junior high. If you want to act like a mouth breather to people who are trying to help you learn then gtfo.

Why choose anything remotely personal? Its creepy and if the prof told him to knock it off even once then they are full justified in kicking his creepy ass out of college.
2013-03-16 11:33:27 PM
1 votes:

ACunningPlan: Link to USAtoday version:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/education/story/2012-02-15/hot-f or -teacher-essay-michigan-oakland/53106370/1

Doesn't really add much more except his lawyer says: ""Obviously he's got a wild sexual imagination in some instances, but it's not harmful,"

What's been quoted so far doesn't really come under my definition of wild sexual imagination, so either the lawyer's led a rather sheltered life, or the chaps writings contained more in-depth creepiness.


I am guessing that he's got deep down creepiness.

I seriously doubt that a professor wants to know about the fantasies of their students when they're the object of desire. The willingness to commit to writing the fantasies you have about someone who has never even displayed the slightest interest is creepy. Not his age, not his appearance. If Brad Pitt walked up to a stranger and described the fantasies he has been having about them, over several weeks of observing them, it would throw you off. Not many women are like, "cool, lets get it on!" no matter how hot someone is.
2013-03-16 11:00:05 PM
1 votes:

Gawdzila: He's using a writing assignment as an excuse to make extremely blatant sexual advances on his teachers and then using the assignment again as a scapegoat when he gets in trouble for it.


This.

Another essay described a teacher who is "tall, blonde and stacked" in a "skirt, heels, fingernails, smile," and described her as "smart and articulate." I'll search for something unattractive about her. No luck yet," he wrote. ...

"The very essence of what I'm saying is that I'm inspired by her relentless teaching style ... It had nothing to do with her physical appearance whatsoever."

"It was never just about their bodies, that was just a small part of it," he explained to Langton about his essays, adding, "I used nine words to describe her and of those nine words, two were 'smart' and 'articulate.'"


Yeah, and the other 7 were all about her looks, including "stacked."

7/9 = 78% > "a small part" > "nothing ... whatsoever."

(Though, in fairness, when I tell my dates that a small part is more than nothing, they don't seem to grasp the difference -- so to speak.)

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: He's guilty of being older and not very attractive.


Partly this. The compliments may have been unwise, or even inappropriate, but let's be honest: if she thought he was hot, would she be bothered by it? It's not harassment unless she'd already rejected him. However...

Corlett described sleeping in the nude with his gun and making a fellow female student uncomfortable when he looked up her number and called her home.

That's the intimidating part. "Gosh, I love your relentless teaching style, and the fact that you're stacked. I once tracked down a woman's home address. By the way, did I mention my gun?"
2013-03-16 10:42:25 PM
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: Young man writing about beautiful women = poetry. Old man doing same, creepy.
/Being old SUCKS


No... if you're writing it about your teacher, a person who has an arms-length relationship with you at best in a college setting, and then handing that same story in to her, you're being creepy regardless of your age. It's possible that some younger guy might get away with it because the teacher might think he doesn't know any better, but it would be considered creepy either way.
2013-03-16 08:42:55 PM
1 votes:

Nick Nostril: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: He's guilty of being older and not very attractive.

Ding! We've a winnar!


Yes, but he's also guilty of bad judgement. Various articles about this say that he verified with the professor that the journal entries could be about anything, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to push the envelope. I can't help but think he was trying to provoke a reaction, and counted on being able to fall back on having been given permission to write about anything if the shiat hit the fan.
2013-03-16 07:39:29 PM
1 votes:
I worked at a small for-profit school as a comp teacher.  This school catered to military vets, the recently laid off, and the folks just out of prison.  I started to notice that, even though there were many who were fine, many others were mentally ill.  One guy wrote about keeping cutouts of Playboy centerfolds on his bedroom wall.  At night, they would speak to him.  Another guy (recently out on pedophilia charges) kept writing about how much he loved his wife--who he met when she was 14.  He was 40.  One woman with schizophrenia wrote about the voices in her head struggling against the medication.  A woman kept writing about when she was raped.

Of course, this was a for-profit school, so there were no counselors available.  I would give the essays to the "CEO," who looked them over, told me to give them As, so they could "graduate and get the hell out of here."

\seriously folks, it's a journal, but you don't need to confess anything to me
\\have learned many, many things about people
2013-03-16 07:16:38 PM
1 votes:

bingethinker: It's part of modern feminism that any normal feeling that any heterosexual man has is automatically wrong.


No, but turning in an essay where you tell the teacher her looks are distracting is bad judgement.

This article does seem to only represent his side in the suit. For all we know, his teacher may have repeatedly asked him to stop writing about her.
2013-03-16 07:06:20 PM
1 votes:
It's part of modern feminism that any normal feeling that any heterosexual man has is automatically wrong.
2013-03-16 06:45:03 PM
1 votes:

Happy Hours: thisispete: Sounds pretty creepy, actually.

It does, but so what?

As long as he's not harassing them or worse the teachers should STFU and honestly grade his essays on the merits.


Sure, unless the teachers feel they are being targeted in the creepy essays. Or that their colleagues are. Or their students. Written harassment is still harassment. I mean, he's free to write whatever he so chooses, but some stuff just does not need to be shared.

/If I were his classmate or prof, I'd be creeped out, too.
2013-03-16 06:17:39 PM
1 votes:
So, he wrote the essays, and...  put them under his bed?  Published them on the web?  Stapled them to women's foreheads?

I'm not sure, from the article, precisely where he dangled his preposition.
2013-03-16 06:10:54 PM
1 votes:
I don't get it; why the sappy tag?
2013-03-16 06:07:11 PM
1 votes:
I don't feel tardy...
 
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