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(CBS Detroit)   Student suspended over 'Hot For Teacher' essay sues Oakland University. "She was blonde and attractive in the Meg Ryan kind of way which I usually don't go for"   ( detroit.cbslocal.com) divider line
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2013-03-16 05:59:09 PM  
And . . . it's 1984.
 
2013-03-16 06:05:10 PM  
Sounds pretty creepy, actually.
 
2013-03-16 06:06:00 PM  
You're never too young to be a dirty old man.
 
2013-03-16 06:07:11 PM  
I don't feel tardy...
 
2013-03-16 06:10:37 PM  
Guy deserved to be kicked out. Wonder if any of the women took restraining orders out on the creep.
 
2013-03-16 06:10:54 PM  
I don't get it; why the sappy tag?
 
2013-03-16 06:11:56 PM  
Where are the hot teacher pics?
 
2013-03-16 06:13:44 PM  
Got a bit of a creepy Charles Bukowski angle going there.

Not bad.  B+/A-
 
2013-03-16 06:14:00 PM  

MontanaDave: I don't get it; why the sappy tag?


It was the closest to sticky?
 
2013-03-16 06:17:39 PM  
So, he wrote the essays, and...  put them under his bed?  Published them on the web?  Stapled them to women's foreheads?

I'm not sure, from the article, precisely where he dangled his preposition.
 
2013-03-16 06:18:08 PM  
Yuck.
 
2013-03-16 06:18:51 PM  
i403.photobucket.com

I Love You Period. Do You Love Me Question Mark
 
2013-03-16 06:19:16 PM  
Dear Penthouse...
 
2013-03-16 06:21:38 PM  

thisispete: Sounds pretty creepy, actually.


This.
 
2013-03-16 06:23:37 PM  

404 page not found: You're never too young to be a dirty old man.


At nearly 60, I don't think his age is a impediment.
 
2013-03-16 06:25:40 PM  

MontanaDave: I don't get it; why the sappy tag?


The guy had real emotions that he chose to express real poorly.
 
2013-03-16 06:26:31 PM  

wingedkat: 404 page not found: You're never too young to be a dirty old man.

At nearly 60, I don't think his age is a impediment.


At just over 50, I'm taking notes.
 
2013-03-16 06:26:50 PM  
This is the pic which accompanies the Yahoo version of the story.
l1.yimg.com
 
2013-03-16 06:28:06 PM  
Thought-crime.
 
2013-03-16 06:29:26 PM  
FTA "
"I've had a few worries lately, the first that Lynn Anne, my wife, would read this. But now I don't care. I suppose my fear is a good sign that I'm writing honestly," Corlett wrote."

No. You are violating the personal space of everyone around you.
 
2013-03-16 06:29:35 PM  
Idiot
 
2013-03-16 06:29:59 PM  

platkat: MontanaDave: I don't get it; why the sappy tag?

The guy had real emotions that he chose to express real

 really  poorly.

You fail creative writing.
 
2013-03-16 06:31:04 PM  
Eww, what a creeper.

I bet women were raped just by being near this guy's vicinity.
 
2013-03-16 06:31:51 PM  

thisispete: Sounds pretty creepy, actually.


It does, but so what?

As long as he's not harassing them or worse the teachers should STFU and honestly grade his essays on the merits.
 
2013-03-16 06:32:12 PM  

platkat: MontanaDave: I don't get it; why the sappy tag?

The guy had real emotions that he chose to express real poorly.



Technically, I suppose that "horny" counts as an emotion.
 
2013-03-16 06:34:14 PM  

ACunningPlan: This is the pic which accompanies the Yahoo version of the story.
[l1.yimg.com image 630x354]


Wow, reminds me of a guy I used to work with....we called him Creepy D. Looked pretty much like that, and would probably write similar essays if he was back in school.

There was a huge party the night that guy got canned.
 
2013-03-16 06:39:43 PM  
The lesson here is that when teachers insist students keep a journal of thoughts that might otherwise be self-censored, and when requested clarification upon requested clarification results in a repeat of the ambiguous requirements if the assignment, they should not be surprised when the entries contain things one might consider offensive.

This teacher should either lighten up, or stop teaching (in the manner she is teaching). Either way, I could give a fark less about some middle aged woman feigning outrage when she was the one pushing the limits.
 
2013-03-16 06:40:24 PM  
 
2013-03-16 06:40:39 PM  

platkat: MontanaDave: I don't get it; why the sappy tag?

The guy had real emotions that he chose to express real poorly.


So the "dumbass" and "asinine" tags were busy fapping to 80s rock album art?
 
2013-03-16 06:40:58 PM  

ACunningPlan: This is the pic which accompanies the Yahoo version of the story.
[l1.yimg.com image 630x354]


Mike Martz?

Anyway, it sounds like the guy was trying to remove his inhibitions through creative writing and was having some personal success with it. Big farking deal.
 
2013-03-16 06:44:51 PM  
He's guilty of being older and not very attractive.
 
2013-03-16 06:45:03 PM  

Happy Hours: thisispete: Sounds pretty creepy, actually.

It does, but so what?

As long as he's not harassing them or worse the teachers should STFU and honestly grade his essays on the merits.


Sure, unless the teachers feel they are being targeted in the creepy essays. Or that their colleagues are. Or their students. Written harassment is still harassment. I mean, he's free to write whatever he so chooses, but some stuff just does not need to be shared.

/If I were his classmate or prof, I'd be creeped out, too.
 
2013-03-16 06:45:14 PM  
What's his FARK handle?
 
2013-03-16 06:46:42 PM  
Michigan. Hmm.

Karl Welzein?
 
2013-03-16 06:46:53 PM  

Happy Hours: thisispete: Sounds pretty creepy, actually.

It does, but so what?

As long as he's not harassing them or worse the teachers should STFU and honestly grade his essays on the merits.


This. So long as none of the teachers are, say, the one he is submitting the essay(s) to, I don't see the problem. He isn't threatening anyone, or describing rape fantasies involving classmates.
 
2013-03-16 06:48:09 PM  
In other journal entries, Corlett described sleeping in the nude with his gun

But I always... of course he... I mean how would you... what other way...
 
2013-03-16 06:49:17 PM  
I have the limpest boner right now.
 
2013-03-16 06:49:49 PM  
I agree with the school for kicking him out. The fantasy he wrote about where he rapes and dismembers his teacher must have profoundly disturbed her.

Oh wait, he only wrote her a few offhand and obnoxious compliments? Yeah, the school is insane.

Why not tell him "I know I said to write whatever you want and not be limited at all, but please refrain from writing about me or anyone else in the class" and move on.

This isn't as stupid as the pastry gun kid, but it's close. Don't overreact to an slightly annoying idiot as if he were an active shooter.
 
2013-03-16 06:53:16 PM  
Well, if I had the time, I'd engage in a lengthy creative writing effort about my freshman year high school rookie redhead American History instructor, and how I'd yearned to earn some extra credit with her.

Remembering those days takes me away from the keyboard.  I'll be in my bunk.
 
2013-03-16 06:54:06 PM  

wambu: And . . . it's 1984.


1. Be attractive
 
2013-03-16 06:54:25 PM  
I work for this college...so I'm getting a very creepy kick...
 
2013-03-16 06:55:15 PM  

MontanaDave: platkat: MontanaDave: I don't get it; why the sappy tag?

The guy had real emotions that he chose to express real poorly.

So the "dumbass" and "asinine" tags were busy fapping to 80s rock album art?


F*ck if I know. I didn't submit this.
 
2013-03-16 07:02:29 PM  
Dear Oakland Forum...
 
2013-03-16 07:06:16 PM  
This story and people who think this guy is commiting some sort of wrongdoing give Chuck Palahniuk, and other modern, A-List writers a sad. If shiat like this, which is an honest look inside this guys thought processes makes you uncomfortable, go back to reading Stephanie Meyer, FFS.
 
2013-03-16 07:06:20 PM  
It's part of modern feminism that any normal feeling that any heterosexual man has is automatically wrong.
 
2013-03-16 07:15:01 PM  

Apos: What's his FARK handle?


What took you so long? Thought I was gonna have to do it myself...
 
2013-03-16 07:15:20 PM  
Ewwwww
 
2013-03-16 07:16:38 PM  

bingethinker: It's part of modern feminism that any normal feeling that any heterosexual man has is automatically wrong.


No, but turning in an essay where you tell the teacher her looks are distracting is bad judgement.

This article does seem to only represent his side in the suit. For all we know, his teacher may have repeatedly asked him to stop writing about her.
 
2013-03-16 07:17:39 PM  

RedVentrue: FTA "
"I've had a few worries lately, the first that Lynn Anne, my wife, would read this. But now I don't care. I suppose my fear is a good sign that I'm writing honestly," Corlett wrote."

No. You are violating the personal space of everyone around you.


You know how I know you don't know what personal space is, you know?
 
2013-03-16 07:19:21 PM  

Happy Hours: thisispete: Sounds pretty creepy, actually.

It does, but so what?

As long as he's not harassing them or worse the teachers should STFU and honestly grade his essays on the merits.


So, you agree that he was properly kicked off campus?
 
2013-03-16 07:20:14 PM  

megarian: I work for this college...so I'm getting a very creepy kick...


That's my signal!
 
2013-03-16 07:23:56 PM  

Madbassist1: This story and people who think this guy is commiting some sort of wrongdoing give Chuck Palahniuk, and other modern, A-List writers a sad. If shiat like this, which is an honest look inside this guys thought processes makes you uncomfortable, go back to reading Stephanie Meyer, FFS.


Did Palahniuk write candid, sexually-charged essays about the professors he was studying under, with the understanding that those professors would be reading and grading them? No, seriously, did he? Because, if not, that's apples and oranges.

/Ew, Meyer? Now there's a creepy writer...
 
2013-03-16 07:24:27 PM  
57 years old?

Siddown, WALDO.
 
2013-03-16 07:26:21 PM  
Just so that all the white knights in here are clear who they're defending...
In other journal entries, Corlett described sleeping in the nude with his gun and making a fellow female student uncomfortable when he looked up her number and called her home.
 
2013-03-16 07:27:26 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: So long as none of the teachers are, say, the one he is submitting the essay(s) to, I don't see the problem.


Another essay described a teacher who is "tall, blonde and stacked" in a "skirt, heels, fingernails, smile," and described her as "smart and articulate." He basically said, in the essay he turned in to her, that her looks were distracting.

So, you do see the problem?
 
2013-03-16 07:30:57 PM  
A fellow student said Corlett was known around campus for strong opinions on open carry laws: He argued voraciously that students should be allowed to carry guns to class.
 
2013-03-16 07:31:11 PM  
Was his name Dimitri?
 
2013-03-16 07:32:39 PM  
From one of the comment threads on the article:

I have to agree with Mr. Wallace on this issue. I too have had experiences with Mr. Corlett on campus, and on repeated occasions have bore witness to his intimidation of fellow students. Mr. Corlett has repeatedly used classroom discussion times in my class with him to make other students uncomfortable with sexist and borderline racist comments. I am, frankly, not surprised this hasn't happened sooner.

www.neontommy.com
 
2013-03-16 07:38:09 PM  

Theaetetus: ArcadianRefugee: So long as none of the teachers are, say, the one he is submitting the essay(s) to, I don't see the problem.

Another essay described a teacher who is "tall, blonde and stacked" in a "skirt, heels, fingernails, smile," and described her as "smart and articulate." He basically said, in the essay he turned in to her, that her looks were distracting.

So, you do see the problem?


Id bet $100 he doesnt.
 
2013-03-16 07:39:29 PM  
I worked at a small for-profit school as a comp teacher.  This school catered to military vets, the recently laid off, and the folks just out of prison.  I started to notice that, even though there were many who were fine, many others were mentally ill.  One guy wrote about keeping cutouts of Playboy centerfolds on his bedroom wall.  At night, they would speak to him.  Another guy (recently out on pedophilia charges) kept writing about how much he loved his wife--who he met when she was 14.  He was 40.  One woman with schizophrenia wrote about the voices in her head struggling against the medication.  A woman kept writing about when she was raped.

Of course, this was a for-profit school, so there were no counselors available.  I would give the essays to the "CEO," who looked them over, told me to give them As, so they could "graduate and get the hell out of here."

\seriously folks, it's a journal, but you don't need to confess anything to me
\\have learned many, many things about people
 
2013-03-16 07:40:06 PM  

buzzcut73: ACunningPlan: This is the pic which accompanies the Yahoo version of the story.
[l1.yimg.com image 630x354]

Wow, reminds me of a guy I used to work with....we called him Creepy D. Looked pretty much like that, and would probably write similar essays if he was back in school.

There was a huge party the night that guy got canned.


Yep, we've all worked with that guy:)

I know one shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, and quite likely people think I'm peculiar looking, but I saw the picture & thought "creepy."

Plus if it's a creative writing class, couldn't he "create" a teacher for his journal and express those inner thoughts w/o referencing his actual teacher?
 
2013-03-16 07:42:56 PM  
"Her boobs hung in the air in exactly the way that bricks don't."

/with apologies to Douglas Adams
//no kidding, first thing I thought of when I read the quote in the headline
 
2013-03-16 07:57:13 PM  

Canton: Madbassist1: This story and people who think this guy is commiting some sort of wrongdoing give Chuck Palahniuk, and other modern, A-List writers a sad. If shiat like this, which is an honest look inside this guys thought processes makes you uncomfortable, go back to reading Stephanie Meyer, FFS.

Did Palahniuk write candid, sexually-charged essays about the professors he was studying under, with the understanding that those professors would be reading and grading them? No, seriously, did he? Because, if not, that's apples and oranges.

/Ew, Meyer? Now there's a creepy writer...


Did these professors realize that an advanced college level writing may be intended to make the reader uncomfortable? No, seriously, did they not realize that? Because if they didn't, those professors aren't fit to teach farking preschool, and you, well you just sound like a sanctimonious prick.

Seriously, I'm not calling you a prick, but lets act like farking adults here. Its an advanced college level course to be taught and participated in by adults.
 
2013-03-16 07:57:43 PM  
He writes like a certain cadre of Farkers, to my mind. However he does exhibit creepiness so... yeah.
 
2013-03-16 07:59:16 PM  

Theaetetus: A fellow student said Corlett was known around campus for strong opinions on open carry laws: He argued voraciously that students should be allowed to carry guns to class.


I heard from someone he picks his nose hairs and leaves them on other student's papers.
 
2013-03-16 08:05:08 PM  
I remember my critical writing class in high school, fondly. In particular, one hot early summer day.

The rest of the class had already left for the next period and Ms. Saulice, our young and eager 23y/o teacher, was cleaning the chalk board while I fumbled with my backpack.

"MurphyMurphy," she said "could you come over hear and help me reach the projector screen?"

Standing up I was immediately embarrassed when I noticed the time I had spent watching her clean the chalkboard had left me standing at attention. She may have been our teacher, but sometimes she just seemed like one of us students. She'd had fit right in if there was a 13th grade and that body would be a welcome addition to the cheer-leading squad.

If she noticed my adolescent reaction to her presence, she didn't let on. "Just reach up there and pull that screen down if you could. I told Mrs. Halls I'd put it down for her class in the morning."

Usually the last person to use the screen doesn't put it up all the way, it was odd to be fully retracted like that, I had to stand on my tiptoes just to reach it. "Got it!" I said, grabbing the screen with just the top bit of my middle finger. No sooner had I gained a hold on the screen handle I felt a hand grip me where none but my own had gripped before.

"Me too" Ms. Saulice said with a sly toothless smile and an intimidating look of mischief in her eyes.

I froze. I did not know how to react. This did not phase Ms. Saulice however, as the only part of me she was paying attention to was reacting on it's own. I can tell you now that what was about to happen, I truly thought would never happen to me.....
 
2013-03-16 08:06:11 PM  
I have sympathy for the poor bloke and I don't think he stepped out of line here. I'm sure it was an entertaining, engrossing read and isn't that kind of the point?

/This is why I avoid writing nonfiction entirely.
 
2013-03-16 08:08:41 PM  
So how many people thought, "big deal", then read the article, saw it was a middle aged guy and changed their reaction to "ewwww!"

If you fall into that category, fark you.
 
2013-03-16 08:12:55 PM  

OgreMagi: So how many people thought, "big deal", then read the article, saw it was a middle aged guy and changed their reaction to "ewwww!"

If you fall into that category, fark you.


ewwwww
 
2013-03-16 08:15:47 PM  

OgreMagi: So how many people thought, "big deal", then read the article, saw it was a middle aged guy and changed their reaction to "ewwww!"

If you fall into that category, fark you.




It would also be creepy from an 18 year old kid.
 
2013-03-16 08:16:48 PM  

thisispete: OgreMagi: So how many people thought, "big deal", then read the article, saw it was a middle aged guy and changed their reaction to "ewwww!"

If you fall into that category, fark you.

It would also be creepy from an 18 year old kid.


Its creepy no matter what or who.
 
2013-03-16 08:21:03 PM  

Madbassist1: Canton: Madbassist1: This story and people who think this guy is commiting some sort of wrongdoing give Chuck Palahniuk, and other modern, A-List writers a sad. If shiat like this, which is an honest look inside this guys thought processes makes you uncomfortable, go back to reading Stephanie Meyer, FFS.

Did Palahniuk write candid, sexually-charged essays about the professors he was studying under, with the understanding that those professors would be reading and grading them? No, seriously, did he? Because, if not, that's apples and oranges.

/Ew, Meyer? Now there's a creepy writer...

Did these professors realize that an advanced college level writing may be intended to make the reader uncomfortable? No, seriously, did they not realize that? Because if they didn't, those professors aren't fit to teach farking preschool, and you, well you just sound like a sanctimonious prick.

Seriously, I'm not calling you a prick, but lets act like farking adults here. Its an advanced college level course to be taught and participated in by adults.


Right. Thing is, there are different kinds of discomfort. From what it sounds like, this guy's writing made particular individuals uncomfortable, as it was both sexual and specifically about them. That's a different sort of discomfort than the sort that comes from writing that puts characters in uncomfortable situations, or conveys ideas outside of the reader's comfort zone. Writers like Palahniuk do not, to my knowledge, do the former. Least of all in a college classroom.

In any advanced college level writing course -- and I say this as a writing major -- you do learn about writing for more than one audience. (Primary, secondary, tertiary, gatekeepers...) This guy's primary audience was his professors. Had he actually considered that, maybe he could have at least changed some names and personal details. You know, to prevent a professor from possibly being creeped enough to want a restraining order or a handgun or something.
 
2013-03-16 08:28:53 PM  
img304.imageshack.us
 
2013-03-16 08:30:09 PM  

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: He's guilty of being older and not very attractive.


Ding! We've a winnar!
 
2013-03-16 08:34:05 PM  

Canton: In any advanced college level writing course -- and I say this as a writing major -- you do learn about writing for more than one audience. (Primary, secondary, tertiary, gatekeepers...) This guy's primary audience was his professors. Had he actually considered that, maybe he could have at least changed some names and personal details. You know, to prevent a professor from possibly being creeped enough to want a restraining order or a handgun or something.


Well as a writing major, don't you feel like you've wasted your farking money because you can't ever go balls out with your writing for fear of getting kicked out of school?

Seriously, fark them.
 
2013-03-16 08:42:04 PM  

Madbassist1: Canton: In any advanced college level writing course -- and I say this as a writing major -- you do learn about writing for more than one audience. (Primary, secondary, tertiary, gatekeepers...) This guy's primary audience was his professors. Had he actually considered that, maybe he could have at least changed some names and personal details. You know, to prevent a professor from possibly being creeped enough to want a restraining order or a handgun or something.

Well as a writing major, don't you feel like you've wasted your farking money because you can't ever go balls out with your writing for fear of getting kicked out of school?

Seriously, fark them.


You can write anything you want.  You shouldn't be turning writing about people in TO THEM unless it's something you're certain will go over smoothly.

Had this guy written about his professors on his own time, there wouldn't be an issue.
 
2013-03-16 08:42:55 PM  

Nick Nostril: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: He's guilty of being older and not very attractive.

Ding! We've a winnar!


Yes, but he's also guilty of bad judgement. Various articles about this say that he verified with the professor that the journal entries could be about anything, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to push the envelope. I can't help but think he was trying to provoke a reaction, and counted on being able to fall back on having been given permission to write about anything if the shiat hit the fan.
 
2013-03-16 08:43:38 PM  
"She was blonde and attractive in the Meg Ryan kind of way"

3.bp.blogspot.com


/I'll have what she's having.
 
2013-03-16 08:48:52 PM  
"She was blonde and attractive in the Meg Ryan kind of way which I usually don't go for"

cdn.evilbeetgossip.com

Yeah, me neither.
 
2013-03-16 08:58:44 PM  

MurphyMurphy: I remember my critical writing class in high school, fondly. In particular, one hot early summer day.

The rest of the class had already left for the next period and Ms. Saulice, our young and eager 23y/o teacher, was cleaning the chalk board while I fumbled with my backpack.

"MurphyMurphy," she said "could you come over hear and help me reach the projector screen?"

Standing up I was immediately embarrassed when I noticed the time I had spent watching her clean the chalkboard had left me standing at attention. She may have been our teacher, but sometimes she just seemed like one of us students. She'd had fit right in if there was a 13th grade and that body would be a welcome addition to the cheer-leading squad.

If she noticed my adolescent reaction to her presence, she didn't let on. "Just reach up there and pull that screen down if you could. I told Mrs. Halls I'd put it down for her class in the morning."

Usually the last person to use the screen doesn't put it up all the way, it was odd to be fully retracted like that, I had to stand on my tiptoes just to reach it. "Got it!" I said, grabbing the screen with just the top bit of my middle finger. No sooner had I gained a hold on the screen handle I felt a hand grip me where none but my own had gripped before.

"Me too" Ms. Saulice said with a sly toothless smile and an intimidating look of mischief in her eyes.

I froze. I did not know how to react. This did not phase Ms. Saulice however, as the only part of me she was paying attention to was reacting on it's own. I can tell you now that what was about to happen, I truly thought would never happen to me.....


Were you ever a sophomore  at a small mid-western college?
 
2013-03-16 09:06:39 PM  

Dafatone: Madbassist1: Canton: In any advanced college level writing course -- and I say this as a writing major -- you do learn about writing for more than one audience. (Primary, secondary, tertiary, gatekeepers...) This guy's primary audience was his professors. Had he actually considered that, maybe he could have at least changed some names and personal details. You know, to prevent a professor from possibly being creeped enough to want a restraining order or a handgun or something.

Well as a writing major, don't you feel like you've wasted your farking money because you can't ever go balls out with your writing for fear of getting kicked out of school?

Seriously, fark them.

You can write anything you want.  You shouldn't be turning writing about people in TO THEM unless it's something you're certain will go over smoothly.

Had this guy written about his professors on his own time, there wouldn't be an issue.


This. One can go balls out with writing and use some common sense  at the same time. This guy focused far too much on his balls, and far too little on considering his audience. That's why it's an issue.
 
2013-03-16 09:10:22 PM  
Corlett, a then 56-year-old student enrolled in an advanced critical writing class, titled his journal entries "Hot For Teacher," after a song by the rock band Van Halen, as part of assignment on diary-style composition.
This actually seems pretty legit.  However, upon further inspection...


The essay goes on to describe another teacher who is "tall, blonde and stacked" in a "skirt, heels, fingernails, smile," ... He basically said, in the essay he turned in to her, that her looks were distracting.
...
In other journal entries, Corlett described sleeping in the nude with his gun and making a fellow female student uncomfortable when he looked up her number and called her home.



... the dude is just a full-on creeper.
He's using a writing assignment as an excuse to make extremely blatant sexual advances on his teachers and then using the assignment again as a scapegoat when he gets in trouble for it.
 
2013-03-16 09:19:42 PM  

BigRightRear: Were you ever a sophomore at a small mid-western college?


Hey now, my writing skills may be in need of improvement,

but they aren't 'mid-western college' bad!
 
2013-03-16 09:22:32 PM  

Happy Hours: thisispete: Sounds pretty creepy, actually.

It does, but so what?

As long as he's not harassing them or worse the teachers should STFU and honestly grade his essays on the merits.


Yeah, in this, case, suspend him for totally butchering the hard-boiled detective style of noir writing.
 
2013-03-16 09:26:28 PM  
I, too am on the wrong side of 50, and I can also attest to never EVER having a thing for Meg Ryan.
 
2013-03-16 09:26:33 PM  
Young man writing about beautiful women = poetry. Old man doing same, creepy.
/Being old SUCKS
 
2013-03-16 09:29:18 PM  
Well after reading a bit of what he wrote in that article I can conclude what he wrote was creepy indeed.
 
2013-03-16 09:41:11 PM  
Yeah, maybe if he was just the essays he'd just be creepy.
But the whole "sleeping naked with a gun" and other stuff people have references in this thread paint a picture of a mentally unbalanced dude that I wouldn't be comfortable around if I were a woman.
On the plus side, it's good that he went back to school. Never too old for that.
 
2013-03-16 09:45:40 PM  

Snort: RedVentrue: FTA "
"I've had a few worries lately, the first that Lynn Anne, my wife, would read this. But now I don't care. I suppose my fear is a good sign that I'm writing honestly," Corlett wrote."

No. You are violating the personal space of everyone around you.

You know how I know you don't know what personal space is, you know?


You can violate someones personal space with words.
 
2013-03-16 09:49:28 PM  

Canton: Dafatone: Madbassist1: Canton: In any advanced college level writing course -- and I say this as a writing major -- you do learn about writing for more than one audience. (Primary, secondary, tertiary, gatekeepers...) This guy's primary audience was his professors. Had he actually considered that, maybe he could have at least changed some names and personal details. You know, to prevent a professor from possibly being creeped enough to want a restraining order or a handgun or something.

Well as a writing major, don't you feel like you've wasted your farking money because you can't ever go balls out with your writing for fear of getting kicked out of school?

Seriously, fark them.

You can write anything you want.  You shouldn't be turning writing about people in TO THEM unless it's something you're certain will go over smoothly.

Had this guy written about his professors on his own time, there wouldn't be an issue.

This. One can go balls out with writing and use some common sense  at the same time. This guy focused far too much on his balls, and far too little on considering his audience. That's why it's an issue.


I totally agree.
 
2013-03-16 09:58:33 PM  

Theaetetus: Just so that all the white knights in here are clear who they're defending...
In other journal entries, Corlett described sleeping in the nude with his gun and making a fellow female student uncomfortable when he looked up her number and called her home.


They should farking outlaw those phonebooks!
 
2013-03-16 10:11:09 PM  

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: He's guilty of being older and not very attractive.


That and being a scarily creepy individual.

Even if he were young and attractive, he'd be just a creepy.  Some of the ladies might have looked past the creepiness if he were hot, but not all of them would.  Those that did, they'd probably regret it later .

I've known a few guys like this, some young and good looking, some older and not so good looking.  Not one of them would surprise me a bit were they to be in the newspaper tomorrow, accused of killing their significant other.

/Creepy is creepy
 
2013-03-16 10:22:56 PM  

MurphyMurphy: I remember my critical writing class in high school, fondly. In particular, one hot early summer day.

The rest of the class had already left for the next period and Ms. Saulice, our young and eager 23y/o teacher, was cleaning the chalk board while I fumbled with my backpack.

"MurphyMurphy," she said "could you come over hear and help me reach the projector screen?"

Standing up I was immediately embarrassed when I noticed the time I had spent watching her clean the chalkboard had left me standing at attention. She may have been our teacher, but sometimes she just seemed like one of us students. She'd had fit right in if there was a 13th grade and that body would be a welcome addition to the cheer-leading squad.

If she noticed my adolescent reaction to her presence, she didn't let on. "Just reach up there and pull that screen down if you could. I told Mrs. Halls I'd put it down for her class in the morning."

Usually the last person to use the screen doesn't put it up all the way, it was odd to be fully retracted like that, I had to stand on my tiptoes just to reach it. "Got it!" I said, grabbing the screen with just the top bit of my middle finger. No sooner had I gained a hold on the screen handle I felt a hand grip me where none but my own had gripped before.

"Me too" Ms. Saulice said with a sly toothless smile and an intimidating look of mischief in her eyes.

I froze. I did not know how to react. This did not phase Ms. Saulice however, as the only part of me she was paying attention to was reacting on it's own. I can tell you now that what was about to happen, I truly thought would never happen to me,

cuz my mom got scared And said, "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air." I whistled for a cab and when it came near The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror If anything I could say that this cab was rare But I thought, "Nah, forget it. Yo home to Bel-Air!" I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 And I yelled to the cabby yo holmes smell ya later Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air.

FTFY
 
2013-03-16 10:36:10 PM  

Theaetetus: Happy Hours: thisispete: Sounds pretty creepy, actually.

It does, but so what?

As long as he's not harassing them or worse the teachers should STFU and honestly grade his essays on the merits.

So, you agree that he was properly kicked off campus?


No, because I don't believe what was described in the article was harassment. If the teacher had spoken to him about it and requested he refrain from using actual characters in his writing because it made her uncomfortable and he continued to do so, then you might have a case for harassment.

Now that may have just led to thinly veiled fictitious characters in which case it might be sort of a grey area. Of course, Hollywood often puts disclaimers in movies that say "All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental." even though very often it's pretty obvious it was at least inspired by actual people.
 
2013-03-16 10:42:25 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Young man writing about beautiful women = poetry. Old man doing same, creepy.
/Being old SUCKS


No... if you're writing it about your teacher, a person who has an arms-length relationship with you at best in a college setting, and then handing that same story in to her, you're being creepy regardless of your age. It's possible that some younger guy might get away with it because the teacher might think he doesn't know any better, but it would be considered creepy either way.
 
2013-03-16 10:42:58 PM  

Theaetetus: Just so that all the white knights in here are clear who they're defending...
In other journal entries, Corlett described sleeping in the nude with his gun and making a fellow female student uncomfortable when he looked up her number and called her home.


Oh my! When I was in college I sometimes looked up other students numbers and called them at home. Sometimes they were even girls and I asked them to go out with me. Sometimes they shot me down. From their rejections I gather they didn't want to go out with me. Was that harassment?

No. Would it have been harassment to call over and over when it was clear they didn't want to go out? Yes, it would have been. The article says he called one female student once.

Perhaps there's a lot more to this story, but I can only go by what it says in the article.
 
2013-03-16 10:48:27 PM  

Canton: This. One can go balls out with writing and use some common sense at the same time. This guy focused far too much on his balls, and far too little on considering his audience. That's why it's an issue.


Um...its an issue because his professor...the professional in the relationship, made it an issue.
 
2013-03-16 10:50:42 PM  

RedVentrue: You can violate someones personal space with words.



That's the dumbest farking thing I have ever read. As someone who reads FARK daily, that's saying something.
 
2013-03-16 10:55:40 PM  

Next week's Tom Sawyer: The lesson here is that when teachers insist students keep a journal of thoughts that might otherwise be self-censored, and when requested clarification upon requested clarification results in a repeat of the ambiguous requirements if the assignment, they should not be surprised when the entries contain things one might consider offensive.

This teacher should either lighten up, or stop teaching (in the manner she is teaching). Either way, I could give a fark less about some middle aged woman feigning outrage when she was the one pushing the limits.


This.

You assign a project, the student complies, and you get bent out of shape.

Maybe the teacher should have set rules.
 
2013-03-16 11:00:05 PM  

Gawdzila: He's using a writing assignment as an excuse to make extremely blatant sexual advances on his teachers and then using the assignment again as a scapegoat when he gets in trouble for it.


This.

Another essay described a teacher who is "tall, blonde and stacked" in a "skirt, heels, fingernails, smile," and described her as "smart and articulate." I'll search for something unattractive about her. No luck yet," he wrote. ...

"The very essence of what I'm saying is that I'm inspired by her relentless teaching style ... It had nothing to do with her physical appearance whatsoever."

"It was never just about their bodies, that was just a small part of it," he explained to Langton about his essays, adding, "I used nine words to describe her and of those nine words, two were 'smart' and 'articulate.'"


Yeah, and the other 7 were all about her looks, including "stacked."

7/9 = 78% > "a small part" > "nothing ... whatsoever."

(Though, in fairness, when I tell my dates that a small part is more than nothing, they don't seem to grasp the difference -- so to speak.)

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: He's guilty of being older and not very attractive.


Partly this. The compliments may have been unwise, or even inappropriate, but let's be honest: if she thought he was hot, would she be bothered by it? It's not harassment unless she'd already rejected him. However...

Corlett described sleeping in the nude with his gun and making a fellow female student uncomfortable when he looked up her number and called her home.

That's the intimidating part. "Gosh, I love your relentless teaching style, and the fact that you're stacked. I once tracked down a woman's home address. By the way, did I mention my gun?"
 
2013-03-16 11:03:16 PM  

Madbassist1: Canton: This. One can go balls out with writing and use some common sense at the same time. This guy focused far too much on his balls, and far too little on considering his audience. That's why it's an issue.

Um...its an issue because his professor...the professional in the relationship, made it an issue.


...and I think we now know this creepy guy's fark handle. Hi Joe Corlett!!!
 
2013-03-16 11:03:27 PM  
Link to USAtoday version:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/education/story/2012-02-15/hot-f or -teacher-essay-michigan-oakland/53106370/1

Doesn't really add much more except his lawyer says: ""Obviously he's got a wild sexual imagination in some instances, but it's not harmful,"

What's been quoted so far doesn't really come under my definition of wild sexual imagination, so either the lawyer's led a rather sheltered life, or the chaps writings contained more in-depth creepiness.
 
2013-03-16 11:33:27 PM  

ACunningPlan: Link to USAtoday version:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/education/story/2012-02-15/hot-f or -teacher-essay-michigan-oakland/53106370/1

Doesn't really add much more except his lawyer says: ""Obviously he's got a wild sexual imagination in some instances, but it's not harmful,"

What's been quoted so far doesn't really come under my definition of wild sexual imagination, so either the lawyer's led a rather sheltered life, or the chaps writings contained more in-depth creepiness.


I am guessing that he's got deep down creepiness.

I seriously doubt that a professor wants to know about the fantasies of their students when they're the object of desire. The willingness to commit to writing the fantasies you have about someone who has never even displayed the slightest interest is creepy. Not his age, not his appearance. If Brad Pitt walked up to a stranger and described the fantasies he has been having about them, over several weeks of observing them, it would throw you off. Not many women are like, "cool, lets get it on!" no matter how hot someone is.
 
2013-03-16 11:34:40 PM  

Next week's Tom Sawyer: The lesson here is that when teachers insist students keep a journal of thoughts that might otherwise be self-censored, and when requested clarification upon requested clarification results in a repeat of the ambiguous requirements if the assignment, they should not be surprised when the entries contain things one might consider offensive.

This teacher should either lighten up, or stop teaching (in the manner she is teaching). Either way, I could give a fark less about some middle aged woman feigning outrage when she was the one pushing the limits.


This.

Back in my art school days, I was in a class where the professor asked us all to write journals during the semester.  These were to be free form diaries in which we were to write down whatever inspirations or ideas came to us, or even just treat it as creative writing or whatever.  Sort of a literary sketchbook.  Well and good.  The T.A. insisted that we bring them in so she could verify that we were complying with the instruction.  She could have given them a cursory glance, but instead she insisted that we turn them in to her so she could read them.  Most of us weren't super-comfortable with it, but I did as we were told.  About four hours later (this was a six hour studio class) she gave them all back to us with a heartfelt apology about violating our privacy....

I'm sorry.  Any teacher who assigns college students to keep a creative writing journal and then decides to read those students' journals has no grounds to complain about any of the content he or she encounters there.
 
2013-03-17 12:13:00 AM  

Madbassist1: This story and people who think this guy is commiting some sort of wrongdoing give Chuck Palahniuk, and other modern, A-List writers a sad. If shiat like this, which is an honest look inside this guys thought processes makes you uncomfortable, go back to reading Stephanie Meyer, FFS.


Oh, sure, encourage more of this:
media-cache-lt0.pinterest.com

65 million copies of creepy, right there. Want to bet teacher has no problem with it?
 
2013-03-17 01:32:54 AM  
'After encouraging free-thinking and honesty on campus, we found that some guy was being honest and free-thinking in a way that was intimidating and expressed stuff we didn't want to hear, so we suspended him.'

Nothing changes. I got the same thing in my art and music classes. I was really interested in exploring hate and racism in my work, because (gasp) those are emotions people have sometimes, and IMO expressing them through art is just about the best and healthiest thing you can do with them. It also could lead to greater understanding that could help us to make world a better place...naive me actually thought universities were interested in doing stuff like that.
 
2013-03-17 01:34:15 AM  
*shudder* This guy writes like Piers Anthony.
 
2013-03-17 01:52:25 AM  

Virtuoso80: naive me actually thought universities were interested in doing stuff like that.


If you offend just two other students enough that they want to leave, you're losing the school money.

Not even counting potential lawsuits or teacher union troubles.

Since a Universtiy exists to make money, why would they go along with anything too "edgy?"  Or "creepy?"

Anything offending to anybody at all, really?
 
2013-03-17 02:47:16 AM  

Virtuoso80: 'After encouraging free-thinking and honesty on campus, we found that some guy was being honest and free-thinking in a way that was intimidating and expressed stuff we didn't want to hear, so we suspended him.'


WHAT? Where did you get that? Honesty and free thinking are fine but nobody ever encourages unfiltered honesty or free thinking without conscience.

It was a journal. He could have written anything. He could have put blatant lies about his day -- that he went to france and ate cheese with the president. That he went into space. He could have written a straight out log of what he did at what time in bullet notes. He didn't. Its not a personal journal. He wrote the journal as an assignment knowing full well it would be read and graded. The journal aspect just means they want you to write something every day. Something. The prof is there to teach, not put up with your passive aggressive creep factor. They teach university not junior high. If you want to act like a mouth breather to people who are trying to help you learn then gtfo.

Why choose anything remotely personal? Its creepy and if the prof told him to knock it off even once then they are full justified in kicking his creepy ass out of college.
 
2013-03-17 03:59:05 AM  

mikefinch: Virtuoso80: 'After encouraging free-thinking and honesty on campus, we found that some guy was being honest and free-thinking in a way that was intimidating and expressed stuff we didn't want to hear, so we suspended him.'

WHAT? Where did you get that? Honesty and free thinking are fine but nobody ever encourages unfiltered honesty or free thinking without conscience.

It was a journal. He could have written anything. He could have put blatant lies about his day -- that he went to france and ate cheese with the president. That he went into space. He could have written a straight out log of what he did at what time in bullet notes. He didn't. Its not a personal journal. He wrote the journal as an assignment knowing full well it would be read and graded. The journal aspect just means they want you to write something every day. Something. The prof is there to teach, not put up with your passive aggressive creep factor. They teach university not junior high. If you want to act like a mouth breather to people who are trying to help you learn then gtfo.

Why choose anything remotely personal? Its creepy and if the prof told him to knock it off even once then they are full justified in kicking his creepy ass out of college.


You're absolutely right that he could have completed the assignment with total BS, which of course would have negated the point of doing it at all. To be honest about it is to care about the idea of the assignment in the first place. Creative writing is, to some extent, about having the courage to bear your soul. The article makes it clear to me that the guy clearly took that part seriously. I call that being a good student, not a bad one.

If I were going to ask for this kind of thing in a creative writing class, I would realize I was asking the students for a massive amount of trust. You know that you're asking them to possibly say things they don't admit to the rest of the world, and that might be taken badly in another context. If they did have the courage and faith to put that trust into me, I wouldn't betray that lightly. If they said they were going to come in the next class and shoot everyone, I might feel an need to break confidentiality, but something so basic as admitting physical attraction, or even repulsion to me as a teacher? I can handle that, and I'd be irresponsible as a teacher if I asked for this type of assignment and weren't ready to handle that.
 
2013-03-17 04:06:43 AM  

sendtodave: Virtuoso80: naive me actually thought universities were interested in doing stuff like that.

If you offend just two other students enough that they want to leave, you're losing the school money.

Not even counting potential lawsuits or teacher union troubles.

Since a Universtiy exists to make money, why would they go along with anything too "edgy?"  Or "creepy?"

Anything offending to anybody at all, really?


Because there's also a cost of integrity, and being taken seriously as an institution of serious learning and education. If a University tossed out every professor who said something the dean personally disagreed with, they would lose any reputation they had pretty quickly.

There also the fact that many people go into academia because they feel there's a 'higher' purpose to what they do than money. This is a tug-of-war seen at play in universities everyone, between the lofty notions of academia, and the practical need to be a profitable business. I don't think either part of that is necessarily wrong - both have their value to humanity.
 
2013-03-17 04:23:53 AM  

Virtuoso80: Because there's also a cost of integrity, and being taken seriously as an institution of serious learning and education.


The more "serious" they are, the less they'd be willing to risk their reputation teaching business and sciences with some liberal arts major "making a statement."
 
2013-03-17 04:26:56 AM  
The dude is a full-on creep. If you take a class so you can go home and write some masturbatory fantasies about the very teacher you're taking the class from, you're a creep. This guy had to know he was making his teacher uncomfortable with this, and I'm not buying his "Whaaaa? Lil ole meee?" defense. Now he's trolling the Uni with a Westboro-type 1st amendment defense.

He's the full package.


/You're a creep if you do this at any age. That goes for the girls, too.
 
2013-03-17 04:32:14 AM  

steveGswine: So, he wrote the essays, and...  put them under his bed?  Published them on the web?  Stapled them to women's foreheads?

I'm not sure, from the article, precisely where he dangled his preposition.


It was a writing class.  His writings would be shared with the teacher, if not the entire class.
 
2013-03-17 04:34:36 AM  

Happy Hours: thisispete: Sounds pretty creepy, actually.

It does, but so what?

As long as he's not harassing them or worse the teachers should STFU and honestly grade his essays on the merits.


This.  There's nothing threatening about the portions of his writing in TFA.
 
2013-03-17 04:35:16 AM  
It's OK for a woman to write mommy porn, but it's not OK for a man.

We wouldn't want to be sexist now.
 
2013-03-17 04:38:28 AM  

Theaetetus: A fellow student said Corlett was known around campus for strong opinions on open carry laws: He argued voraciously that students should be allowed to carry guns to class.


He should have argued vociferously.

/dumbfark reporter
 
2013-03-17 04:39:35 AM  

RedVentrue: Snort: RedVentrue: FTA "
"I've had a few worries lately, the first that Lynn Anne, my wife, would read this. But now I don't care. I suppose my fear is a good sign that I'm writing honestly," Corlett wrote."

No. You are violating the personal space of everyone around you.

You know how I know you don't know what personal space is, you know?

You can violate someones personal space with words.


And you just did.  I need to go wash the bullshiat out of my eyes now.
 
2013-03-17 05:16:46 AM  

sendtodave: Virtuoso80: Because there's also a cost of integrity, and being taken seriously as an institution of serious learning and education.

The more "serious" they are, the less they'd be willing to risk their reputation teaching business and sciences with some liberal arts major "making a statement."


Ahh, now it becomes clear. I'll stop talking to you now.
 
2013-03-17 06:02:44 AM  

Virtuoso80: The article makes it clear to me that the guy clearly took that part seriously. I call that being a good student, not a bad one.


He did not take it seriously. His 'bearing of soul' amounted to either a passive aggressive weird act of sexual exhibition and its wildly inappropriate or hes being facetious in the worst way and its wildly inappropriate.

It was a writing assignment, not therapy. Its pretty clear he got the jollies from offending people. Trolling is fun to do once in awhile online but when you act obtuse for the sake of acting obtuse IRL people get f'ing pissed off.

\Not a troll really -- its just fun to pretend to have terrible morals once in awhile
\\Who's gonna cast the first stone? Who?
 
2013-03-17 06:42:41 AM  
i.dailymail.co.uk
Pic of prof.
Her page in Oakland University
http://www.oakland.edu/?id=12061&sid=322

Rate my professor
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=50592

Funny. They added a "Hotness" meter to their professor ratings!
and the comments are
.. "She is also very nice on the eye ",
.. "Hot, funny, nice, ..."
.. "SHES HOTTTTT " ...
.. "uber-hott!!!!!" ...
.. "She's really attractive " ..
.. "she is hot " ...
.. "but she's real real sweet. " ...
... "What a nice lady and hot too." ...
.. "plus she is hot which makes you wanna be there every day" ...
you get the idea.

Seems like the dude articulated what every other (male) student is thinking in her class.

The daily mail has a video of the guy talking. He just has the typical old man on campus vibe but the rage meter boiling off the charts. Then, he reads his essay and then it gets super creepy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102084/Joseph-Corlett-kicke d- university-writing-sexually-suggestive-essay-female-professor.html
 
2013-03-17 08:17:15 AM  

gerbilpox: Corlett described sleeping in the nude with his gun and making a fellow female student uncomfortable when he looked up her number and called her home.

That's the intimidating part. "Gosh, I love your relentless teaching style, and the fact that you're stacked. I once tracked down a woman's home address. By the way, did I mention my gun?"


I didn't realize being 27 made me old and crusty, but back in the day there was something called a phone book where you could look up the phone numbers of listed people and businesses.

/offer not valid if student had her number made private which isn't indicated in the article
 
2013-03-17 08:54:38 AM  

occamswrist: Madbassist1: Canton: This. One can go balls out with writing and use some common sense at the same time. This guy focused far too much on his balls, and far too little on considering his audience. That's why it's an issue.

Um...its an issue because his professor...the professional in the relationship, made it an issue.

...and I think we now know this creepy guy's fark handle. Hi Joe Corlett!!!


Stay classy. I fervently disagree with most of the conservative trolls on this board, but one thing they are right about...FARK doesn't tolerate much dissent from the hive-mind, and they are very classy about how they state it.
 
2013-03-17 09:03:19 AM  

mikefinch: He did not take it seriously. His 'bearing of soul' amounted to either a passive aggressive weird act of sexual exhibition and its wildly inappropriate or hes being facetious in the worst way and its wildly inappropriate.

It was a writing assignment, not therapy. Its pretty clear he got the jollies from offending people. Trolling is fun to do once in awhile online but when you act obtuse for the sake of acting obtuse IRL people get f'ing pissed off.


LOL. You're the one being obtuse. You might want to look it up. Why is the assignment inappropriate? If he gets his jollies offending people...and he's good at it, farking great! not many can do that. Ellis, Pahni...pah...uh...the 'Fight Club' guy, as well as,  in their time, Lovecraft and Poe, all offended people. What a bunch of inappropriate hacks, amiright?

/Not a B.E.E fan.
//American Psycho was unreadable for me.
 
2013-03-17 09:22:32 AM  
That bastage did that sort of creepy thing to the poor victim, a female teacher.

Oh, wait - was it the female teacher simply looking for the love/passion/longing she so sorely deserved - emotionally abandoned in a male dominated society, finding it in the youthful male presence?

... gawdamn it's hard to decide right from wrong....
 
2013-03-17 12:21:27 PM  
Dear Journal:

That Veronica Vaughn is one hot piece of ass. So hot, want to touch the heinie.
 
2013-03-17 12:24:03 PM  
CSS Time!:

When I first went to grad school, we could sign up to be Teaching Assistants, which was a decent gig, as we got paid a monthly stipend, had part of our education paid for by the university, and a few other perks. So a bunch of us signed up, and we had to take a class about how to do everything.

One of the sections covered at the end of the training was about how students can undermine the authority of instructors to the point of harassment and beyond, in either written or verbal form. This section was accompanied by a story of a Teaching Assistant that worked in the Public Speaking classes, who thought everything was going great until the day that the "freestyle" speeches were to be given (each student was allowed to write on whatever topic they wanted, and the speech had to be 3-4 minutes long).

A male student decided to wax poetic on "the perfect woman", describing her hair, her eyes, her body, and how he hoped to learn more about what was under her clothes himself, and at the end of the speech named the Teaching Assistant as whom he was writing about. That is, of course, super-inappropriate, and as the "hot for teacher" student in TFA was also inappropriate in the same vein, I can see why he was given the punishment he was from the college.

/Never been so happy to be a Plain Jane in all my life as when I was teaching
//Some of my friends got hit on by students after the students were done taking their class
///My friends were creeped out by it and always turned them down
 
2013-03-17 12:35:17 PM  

RadicalArcher: CSS Time!:

When I first went to grad school, we could sign up to be Teaching Assistants, which was a decent gig, as we got paid a monthly stipend, had part of our education paid for by the university, and a few other perks. So a bunch of us signed up, and we had to take a class about how to do everything.

One of the sections covered at the end of the training was about how students can undermine the authority of instructors to the point of harassment and beyond, in either written or verbal form. This section was accompanied by a story of a Teaching Assistant that worked in the Public Speaking classes, who thought everything was going great until the day that the "freestyle" speeches were to be given (each student was allowed to write on whatever topic they wanted, and the speech had to be 3-4 minutes long).

A male student decided to wax poetic on "the perfect woman", describing her hair, her eyes, her body, and how he hoped to learn more about what was under her clothes himself, and at the end of the speech named the Teaching Assistant as whom he was writing about. That is, of course, super-inappropriate, and as the "hot for teacher" student in TFA was also inappropriate in the same vein, I can see why he was given the punishment he was from the college.

/Never been so happy to be a Plain Jane in all my life as when I was teaching
//Some of my friends got hit on by students after the students were done taking their class
///My friends were creeped out by it and always turned them down


You sound jealous.
/and fat
 
2013-03-17 01:09:10 PM  
"It's Creative Writing class!  Let a Thousand Flowers bloom, comrades!"

Srsly, if it was an aging female divorcee getting moist over a younger male teacher, would he get all Ox-Bow Incident on her?
 
2013-03-17 02:21:19 PM  

RadicalArcher: /Never been so happy to be a Plain Jane in all my life as when I was teaching


You have beautiful eyes and a nice smile.
 
2013-03-17 02:55:54 PM  

Fano: Dear Journal:

That Veronica Vaughn is one hot piece of ass. So hot, want to touch the heinie.


I read that in Doug Funnie's voice.
 
2013-03-17 03:21:52 PM  

Madbassist1: RedVentrue: You can violate someones personal space with words.


That's the dumbest farking thing I have ever read. As someone who reads FARK daily, that's saying something.


BarkingUnicorn: RedVentrue: Snort: RedVentrue: FTA "
"I've had a few worries lately, the first that Lynn Anne, my wife, would read this. But now I don't care. I suppose my fear is a good sign that I'm writing honestly," Corlett wrote."

No. You are violating the personal space of everyone around you.

You know how I know you don't know what personal space is, you know?

You can violate someones personal space with words.

And you just did.  I need to go wash the bullshiat out of my eyes now.


See? There's the proof.
 
2013-03-17 04:29:59 PM  

RedVentrue: Madbassist1: RedVentrue: You can violate someones personal space with words.


That's the dumbest farking thing I have ever read. As someone who reads FARK daily, that's saying something.

BarkingUnicorn: RedVentrue: Snort: RedVentrue: FTA "
"I've had a few worries lately, the first that Lynn Anne, my wife, would read this. But now I don't care. I suppose my fear is a good sign that I'm writing honestly," Corlett wrote."

No. You are violating the personal space of everyone around you.

You know how I know you don't know what personal space is, you know?

You can violate someones personal space with words.

And you just did.  I need to go wash the bullshiat out of my eyes now.

See? There's the proof.


*snerk*

Grow a thicker skin.
 
2013-03-17 05:53:32 PM  

Madbassist1: LOL. You're the one being obtuse. You might want to look it up. Why is the assignment inappropriate? If he gets his jollies offending people...and he's good at it, farking great! not many can do that. Ellis, Pahni...pah...uh...the 'Fight Club' guy, as well as, in their time, Lovecraft and Poe, all offended people. What a bunch of inappropriate hacks, amiright?

/Not a B.E.E fan.
//American Psycho was unreadable for me


Those weren't university students.

There is a difference between creative writing as a hobby or profession and creative writing as a task assigned by your prof.

Push boundaries on your own time. The point of the assignment was hardly to show off how edgy you could be... She's trying to teach a class -- she's not getting payed to act as an audience for attention seekers and trolls.

Save the erotica for your own time. His paper amounts to him yelling HEY IMA GREASE BALL WHATR YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT? and of course in real life people will and can do something about it.

He reminds me of that guy who got tazed because he wouldnt turn off his caera in the courthouse and kept arguing with the baliff. in that case you know your being an ass and your trying to hide behind rules that really werent made for someone in your position. Sounds obtuse to me. Being a farkwad because you can is being obtuse.
 
2013-03-17 06:30:29 PM  

Happy Hours: RadicalArcher: /Never been so happy to be a Plain Jane in all my life as when I was teaching

You have beautiful eyes and a nice smile.


That's really sweet. Now tell her about how you sleep naked with a gun, and call her at home!
 
2013-03-17 11:06:38 PM  

mr0x: Seems like the dude articulated what every other (male) student is thinking in her class.


Yeah they added the hotness thing to RateMyProfessor a long time ago.
Anyway, every other male student isn't turning in papers to her describing what they're thinking.
Of course she knows what they think, teachers look at RMP.  But there's a huge difference between noticing a hot girl with a nice rack and giving her a polite smile and "hi", and giving her the up and down look and saying "hey, nice t*ts!".  Whether she knows what you're thinking or not is irrelevant; actually saying it makes the situation 10x more uncomfortable for her and you should know that.  If you don't you're socially retarded and if you do and do it anyway then you're an a**hole.


Summoner101: gerbilpox: Corlett described sleeping in the nude with his gun and making a fellow female student uncomfortable when he looked up her number and called her home.

That's the intimidating part. "Gosh, I love your relentless teaching style, and the fact that you're stacked. I once tracked down a woman's home address. By the way, did I mention my gun?"

I didn't realize being 27 made me old and crusty, but back in the day there was something called a phone book where you could look up the phone numbers of listed people and businesses.

/offer not valid if student had her number made private which isn't indicated in the article


Yes I've used one of those books, and even in that day and age it was considered creepy to look up the number of a girl and call her if she would not normally be expecting or welcoming a call from you.  Just because someone's information is a matter of public record does not make it socially acceptable to go digging that information up or to make use of it.
 
2013-03-17 11:11:52 PM  

Virtuoso80: Creative writing is, to some extent, about having the courage to bear your soul. The article makes it clear to me that the guy clearly took that part seriously.


Your response makes it clear to me that you don't understand the difference between creative writing and inappropriate passive-aggressive sexual advances.
What he was doing was blatantly transparent, and it wasn't an honest attempt at completing the assignment in a creative way.
 
2013-03-17 11:12:13 PM  

Dragonflew: Happy Hours: RadicalArcher: /Never been so happy to be a Plain Jane in all my life as when I was teaching

You have beautiful eyes and a nice smile.

That's really sweet. Now tell her about how you sleep naked with a gun, and call her at home!


And then tell her about your philosophy of treating others as you'd like to be treated, which means that you would greatly appreciate if anyone sexually attracted to you made that known immediately. So you're really just extending that courtesy to her as part of your personal code of ethics.
 
2013-03-18 04:11:08 AM  

Gawdzila: Virtuoso80: Creative writing is, to some extent, about having the courage to bear your soul. The article makes it clear to me that the guy clearly took that part seriously.

Your response makes it clear to me that you don't understand the difference between creative writing and inappropriate passive-aggressive sexual advances.
What he was doing was blatantly transparent, and it wasn't an honest attempt at completing the assignment in a creative way.


I would suggest that many a famous writer has used writing to vent, and to express things passive-aggressively they couldn't express elsewhere.
 
2013-03-18 07:47:27 PM  

Virtuoso80: Gawdzila: Virtuoso80: Crea

I would suggest that many a famous writer has used writing to vent, and to express things passive-aggressively they couldn't express elsewhere.


Find examples they made while taking a university course.

Venting is fine -- do it on your own time.
 
2013-03-18 08:36:25 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Fano: Dear Journal:

That Veronica Vaughn is one hot piece of ass. So hot, want to touch the heinie.

I read that in Doug Funnie's voice.


25.media.tumblr.com
Could be
 
2013-03-18 11:33:18 PM  

Theaetetus: ArcadianRefugee: So long as none of the teachers are, say, the one he is submitting the essay(s) to, I don't see the problem.

Another essay described a teacher who is "tall, blonde and stacked" in a "skirt, heels, fingernails, smile," and described her as "smart and articulate." He basically said, in the essay he turned in to her, that her looks were distracting.

So, you do see the problem?


Assuming those two her's are the same her, yes. If not, no.
 
2013-03-19 12:34:18 AM  
Also, I'd need to see photos.
 
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