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2013-03-16 01:24:38 PM
4 votes:
The list reads like a circus roster. Are Republicans ever again going to become intellectually serious? Where the hell are the Eisenhowers? Well, I know where they are...pushed out of the party either into being Democrats or judged unworthy of Republican support as RINOs.
2013-03-16 12:32:50 PM
4 votes:
Wow...Republicans really don't want to win the White House.
2013-03-16 12:13:07 PM
4 votes:
1) Religious nuts, who won't pass muster in the national electorate
2) Economic nuts, ditto
3) Folks in BOTH 1 and 2, double-ditto
4) North-East RINOs, who won't pass muster with the base in the GOP Primaries
2013-03-16 05:23:20 PM
3 votes:
I present to you the list of every losing GOP primary candidate who won more than 4 states in a primary:

Reagan (1976)
HW Bush (1980)
Dole (1988)
McCain (2000)
Romney (2008)
Santorum (2012)

This could get good...
2013-03-17 01:05:19 AM
2 votes:
If the Republicans were serious about wanting a nearly 100% chance of winning (and accepting reasonable concessions), they would do the following:

1)  Tell Chris Christie he's "it", so long as he loses some weight for public image, and doesn't say anything monumentally stupid for the next 24 months.

2)  At that point, they will find the moderate Democrat that will serve as his VP candidate.  In doing so, they forge an alliance between the non-crazy GOP faction and the blue dog/moderate/fiscally conservative sides of the Democratic party.

Of course, they'll never do this, as they'll see it as a betrayal of their "principles".  They'll continue to pander to the political suicide squad they see as their base, and cling to socially conservative drivel, which they will continue to vomit with the insane impression that they can win the culture war with mental weapons forged in the 1400s.
2013-03-16 11:06:48 PM
2 votes:
It was sometime around the Iowa Straw Poll that I really started to put it all together that it was going to be a shiat-show courtesy of the GOP. Yeah, the winds were blowing that way but you always want to believe than an organization that has some money behind it will pull it together.

Besides, it's Dems who fall in love and the GOP that fall in line.  Right?  Right?

And that's what the Tea Party did.  They said it was okay to fall in love.  They said it was okay to have feelings, like the one's you know are wring and inappropriate.  And some of them even said it's okay to blurt them out over the air-waves about a Georgetown co-ed, or on a Sunday morning TV show when asked about abortion in the case of rape.

Already I'm giddy about it.  I can't wait for the mid-terms to be over because the scramble to screw this up is going to be epic.  Really.  After watching CPAC today it occurred to me; they've learned nothing.  They put their hands into a boiling pot of water, spent a week in the hospital for burns and skin grafts and they're heading right back into the kitchen to do it all over again.

I've said it before and I will say it again.  This is an awesome time to be a political junkie, and even better to be a Democrat.
2013-03-16 07:14:52 PM
2 votes:

Kibbler: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Meanwhile, Queen Sarah is still being the same old coont as always

That's amazing. She cashed in on an actual shiat-for-brains reality TV show, and she says that the Obamas star in one. At this point, she could claim that it was Obama's nitwit handling of a simple TV interview with Katie Couric that sank the McCain candidacy and those morons would cheer her.

"And what about Obama's invasion of Iraq?" Hysterical cheering.


It's not that the Republicans are shiat-eatingly stupid that bothers me the most.  It's the hypocracy, and the total and complete lack of shame for being that farking moronic.  Being that farking stupid is something one is supposed to be embarrassed about.
2013-03-16 07:00:49 PM
2 votes:
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2013-03-16 06:17:56 PM
2 votes:

MrBallou: Demetrius: Duuuuuude...I am sooooooo stoned right now

[www.wisconsingazette.com image 385x292]

WTF is wrong with his head*? It looks misshapen and sort of pin-ish.

*The outside, I mean. We all know what's wrong with the inside.


Fetal alcohol syndrome.  Not joking, not trying to be mean.  He's got all the telltale deformities of FAS.
2013-03-16 04:43:07 PM
2 votes:

Delay: Infernalist: If they highlight his aggressive demeanor against people that are generally not liked (terrorists, criminal figures, the GOP, rogue nations), then it'll work to his favor.

Yep.


And the best part is, he's already done that and it made his poll numbers go up.  Across the board.  He bucked the party leadership, gave them the finger, worked with the other party, potentially wounded the GOP's candidate for the big seat and most people gave him the thumbs and said "Good. Keep it up."
2013-03-16 04:25:08 PM
2 votes:

SilentStrider: Lionel Mandrake: Wow...Republicans really don't want to win the White House.

If they did, they'd have invited Christie. He's got some crossover appeal.


Eh, TBH, I don't think Christie would do well.  His "crossover appeal" mostly comes from the fact that he actually said nice things about Obama; once people got a load of what a loudmouthed asshole he is, I think that'd evaporate really fast.

/at least he's not farking crazy, though
2013-03-16 03:58:56 PM
2 votes:

Alphakronik: That's like picking a kickball team at the local special education school.


www.wisconsingazette.com
2013-03-16 03:38:19 PM
2 votes:
A picture from inside the convention hall.

i.imgur.com
2013-03-16 03:35:20 PM
2 votes:

Richard Saunders: A Rubio/Haley ticket would be entertaining.  And by entertaining I mean,  watch liberal Democrats twitch.


Wait, why would Democrats twitch again.

We'd just be watching a Hispanic Mitt Romney and a slightly smarter version of Sarah Palin run.
2013-03-16 02:57:09 PM
2 votes:
Sarah Palin/Rand Paul 2016!

This message paid for by the DNC.
2013-03-16 02:15:08 PM
2 votes:
Wow that's depressing.
2013-03-16 02:14:33 PM
2 votes:
Well, Jindal is on the list, so there's that. While most Republicans are trying to undo Roosevelt's legacy, Jindal is trying to undo Huey Long.
2013-03-16 02:10:48 PM
2 votes:
Meanwhile, Queen Sarah is still being the same old coont as always
2013-03-16 01:42:21 PM
2 votes:
Meanwhile, Chris Christie, who polls show at least runs well against the most likely Democratic candidates in 2016, isn't invited to CPAC because he's not conservative enough.

Not that I think it would have been wise for him to show up for this freakshow.
2013-03-16 01:30:57 PM
2 votes:

GAT_00: Man On A Mission: From TFA:  Former Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels

This would be the intelligent choice, which is why it will never happen.

No it wouldn't.  He's just as much an economic "genius" as Paul Ryan.


Well, he did serve as GW Bush's Director of the U.S. Office of Management and Budget during the time in which that Administration turned a budget surplus into a huge deficit, so he's got that economic genius going for him.
2013-03-16 01:02:18 PM
2 votes:

Man On A Mission: From TFA:  Former Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels

This would be the intelligent choice, which is why it will never happen.


No it wouldn't.  He's just as much an economic "genius" as Paul Ryan.
2013-03-17 07:12:18 AM
1 votes:

dickfreckle: starsrift: Rubio and Christie are the only electable ones on that list.

But Rubio is the one most likely to make a poll-changing, retarded comment. I think Christie (with a fitness regimen) is the absolute smartest choice. The man can definitely be an asshole but he's certainly not stupid enough to mutter about rape, 47%, or any of the other quips we've heard from the modern GOP. He could actually engender younger or more diverse voters simply because he's not a Teabagging jerk.

Sadly, he cooperated with Obama, which makes him a heretic. Even though 2016 is a ways off, folks in the primaries don't forget that sort of thing. He's obviously a socialist.

/would not vote for him, but would not be too upset if he won


Rubio is such a pandering hack, that he gives Romney a run for his money. Every time I see that man talk, it involves some hackneyed cliche about America.

I mean most politicians do this too but he really seems to do it more often than  most.
2013-03-17 05:28:35 AM
1 votes:

starsrift: Rubio and Christie are the only electable ones on that list.


But Rubio is the one most likely to make a poll-changing, retarded comment. I think Christie (with a fitness regimen) is the absolute smartest choice. The man can definitely be an asshole but he's certainly not stupid enough to mutter about rape, 47%, or any of the other quips we've heard from the modern GOP. He could actually engender younger or more diverse voters simply because he's not a Teabagging jerk.

Sadly, he cooperated with Obama, which makes him a heretic. Even though 2016 is a ways off, folks in the primaries don't forget that sort of thing. He's obviously a socialist.

/would not vote for him, but would not be too upset if he won
2013-03-17 12:06:51 AM
1 votes:
Santorum/Walker 2016: because we didn't lose badly enough in 2012.
2013-03-16 11:35:33 PM
1 votes:

sheep snorter: A picture from inside the convention hall.


i.imgur.com

Nah. It's more like

thetimetraveller.files.wordpress.com
2013-03-16 10:57:50 PM
1 votes:
Yep, another Democrat is gonna win in 2016.
2013-03-16 10:13:21 PM
1 votes:

Virtuoso80: I'm going to predict Ben Carson will be the Herman Cain of 2016. At some point during the primaries, voters will get all excited about him, but then they'll have second thoughts and move on to someone else.


Agreed. He's a gifted speaker in some respects as his prayer breakfast chiding of Obama proved but he's not enough of a political animal to be able to play the game to win.

Plus there's that whole "after 8 years of Obama the GOP are so not gonna nominate a black guy" thing.

Tied for 7th place in a meaningless poll with 4% of the 3,000 ballots cast aint quite gonna cut it.
2013-03-16 10:13:07 PM
1 votes:

propasaurus: The Why Not Guy: NPR news played a clip from Mrs. Palin's speech... she made a teleprompter crack. A woman who has to write "tax cuts" on her hand made a crack about the President's speaking skills about 4 years after the freshness date expired. That's what the Republicans and Conservatives bring to the table.

Yeah, she made a TelePrompTer joke... while reading from a TelePrompTer.


Bless her poor, dear, sweet heart...
2013-03-16 10:12:57 PM
1 votes:

Virtuoso80: I'm going to predict Ben Carson will be the Herman Cain of 2016. At some point during the primaries, voters will get all excited about him, but then they'll have second thoughts and move on to someone else.


He'll be long forgotten way before then.
2013-03-16 09:52:50 PM
1 votes:
NPR news played a clip from Mrs. Palin's speech... she made a teleprompter crack. A woman who has to write "tax cuts" on her hand made a crack about the President's speaking skills about 4 years after the freshness date expired. That's what the Republicans and Conservatives bring to the table.
2013-03-16 09:30:06 PM
1 votes:

TheManofPA: Don't see anyone discussing really the random name on the list Carson, who ended up 7th in the straw poll. Odd to see a neurosurgeon who doesn't believe in evolution. It does suck though that he said he's going to retire from being a slicer after all these years (sure the books are hype, but the man is a gifted surgeon). Hopefully he doesn't go off the deep end to move up in the party and tries to push more back to center.


He's the Tea Party's new black friend.
2013-03-16 06:25:33 PM
1 votes:

balloot: I present to you the list of every losing GOP primary candidate who won more than 4 states in a primary:

Reagan (1976)
HW Bush (1980)
Dole (1988)
McCain (2000)
Romney (2008)
Santorum (2012)

This could get good...


It could certainly be entertaining. I'm not sure I want to risk him actually getting the nomination though.
2013-03-16 06:25:22 PM
1 votes:
Scott Walker? Really? His eyes don't even point in the same direction. He's just so blatantly a drooling idiot. Republicans have historically understood that in order to get people to vote for a total shiatbag, the bag had better be pretty nice.

That's just squeezing out a fresh turd onto the face of the electorate and hoping no one notices or cares. Not the way to electoral success...
2013-03-16 06:19:19 PM
1 votes:
It looks like just having the last name Paul is enough to win the CPAC Straw Poll anymore.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/16/17341131-rand-paul-win s- cpac-straw-poll-rubio-close-second?lite

This convention is such a joke.
2013-03-16 05:57:05 PM
1 votes:

MrBallou: Demetrius: Duuuuuude...I am sooooooo stoned right now

[www.wisconsingazette.com image 385x292]

WTF is wrong with his head*? It looks misshapen and sort of pin-ish.

*The outside, I mean. We all know what's wrong with the inside.


i.qkme.me
2013-03-16 05:42:00 PM
1 votes:

HighOnCraic: Jormungandr: If I recall right, they way the GOP does things is the one who came in second becomes the candidate next time.
So that would mean Santorum.  I hope that comes to pass. If Santorum doesn't become the candidate I will be sad.

Santorum has an advantage over any new candidate that tries to win the nomination in '16:  he managed to last through the end of the primaries last time around, so he starts off with a better ground game (just like Romney last time, and McCain in '08).  Like you, I hope that Santorum becomes the Republican nominee, and I'm very happy to see esteemed journalistical resources such as WorldNetDaily spreading Santorum's message across the intertubes.


Uh? Eww.
2013-03-16 05:38:57 PM
1 votes:

propasaurus: hey at least your education reform isn't in court - Jindal. as it should be, my god is the voucher program badly done. if you are a small religious Christian school you love the program. a mid sized city with a normal demographic curve, you hate it.

Muslim religious schools need not apply.


yeah that kinda goes w/o saying. although here in SE LA i don't hear a lot of whining about Muslims in general. that may be because i don't get out much. :)
2013-03-16 05:37:16 PM
1 votes:

SilentStrider: Lionel Mandrake: Wow...Republicans really don't want to win the White House.

If they did, they'd have invited Christie. He's got some crossover appeal.


Only when sharing the stage with Obama.
2013-03-16 05:06:02 PM
1 votes:
I particularly liked seeing that just before $arah took the stage, they set up teleprompters for her.  After she gave Obama so much grief for using them.  She has no job, no campaign, months to prepare a single ten minute speech, in a situation where she could bring notes.

And still needed the 'prompter.

1. Christie might be veep.  Too angry to be the nominee, people don't like that.

2. Santorum?  Nominate a guy who has been out of office for a decade?  Nope.

3.  Rubio - too new for the GOP, too moderate.

4. Jindal - too short and ethnic looking

5. Nikki Haley - too new, too young (for the GOP)

6.  Rand Paul - too new, the money guys won't trust him

7.  Rick Perry - too stupid even for the GOP

No Huntsman?

Ryan is the frontrunner, with Daniels, Kasich, McDonnell, Pence in the hunt.
2013-03-16 05:04:43 PM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: Citizens have the right to equal protection under the law, and together, those should be reason enough for the Republican party to stand for marriage equality.


Yep. Although I voted Republican in my youth, today's Republican party is not the same party I aligned with when I was younger. Today's GOP is essentially a group of people fixated on their own agenda and their agenda has nothing to do with most people of the US. The Republican agenda has to do with corporate profits.

Marriage equality has become such a hot issue today because today's Republican party has no stands.
2013-03-16 04:56:32 PM
1 votes:
They want a second president with FAS? Don't they remember what happened the last time?

www.wisconsingazette.com
2013-03-16 04:49:52 PM
1 votes:

HeartBurnKid: That's pretty much the entire party, isn't it?


There's a few Moneycons who aren't quite economic nuts, some not particularly religious racist Xenocons and militarist Jingocons, and some young non-northeast RINOs who still call themselves Republicans because their parents raised them to be loyal GOP voters and it hasn't sunk in just how out of tune they are with the GOP.

Not many of any of those holding elected office, especially the first and last.
2013-03-16 04:49:29 PM
1 votes:

Delay: FTA "Jennifer Rubin, made the case for gay marriage as conservative value."

Laughter Out Loud.


It should be. Marriage equality should be a part of the Republican platform. On the basis of freedom of religion and equal access under the law. The Party of Lincoln looking to restrict rights for citizens is shameful. It isn't the entire reason for my splitting with the party, but it is definitely a symptom of the rot within.

A church doesn't want to perform those ceremonies, I'm behind that decision, 100%. They are free to choose that path for themselves, but that extends to also allowing Methodists and Unitarians, and synagogues and others to choose their own path. Citizens have the right to equal protection under the law, and together, those should be reason enough for the Republican party to stand for marriage equality. It isn't about sin, it's about access under the law, and the freedom to worship as you like, and not have other ministries determine what is meet and good for you.

The party is in grave condition at this point, and it is because the party pulled fringe groups to become the center of their agenda, and that goes for the NeoCons as much as the Religious Right. It was a move that was made to draw in dollars, and shore up support in some states, but at a grave cost. Coupled with the move to generate scholastic support with captive publishing houses to produce books to parrot back moves that have already been decided upon, as opposed to looking to experts to advise on matters, it has led to the deafening echo chamber that now predominates the party leadership. It is a dangerous trend, and I can only hope that the party will see its own folly, or crumble and something new can form from the rubble, and hopefully something grounded in reality, as opposed to those who have willfully misconstrued the idea of "subjective reality" as their watchword...
2013-03-16 04:48:16 PM
1 votes:

propasaurus: I've said it before: ten years from now, the official party line will be that conservatives were ALWAYS in favor of same sex marriage and the only reason it took so long to achieve was because of the obstructionist Democrats. Remember, it was liberal hero Bill Clinton who signed DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell.


You know I bet they'll end up reversing all their unpopular positions.  We've always been at war with East Asia....

obsidianwings.blogs.com
2013-03-16 04:46:06 PM
1 votes:

Curious: WorldCitizen: Man On A Mission: From TFA:  Former Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels

This would be the intelligent choice, which is why it will never happen.

Not really.

/Hoosier
//Our educational system (the primary function of a state government) has been gutted, but we have a balanced budget to make him look good to fiscal conservatives!
///I'm just SURE gutting our educational system will have no long term, negative consequences in a highly competitive 21st Century economy.

hey at least your education reform isn't in court - Jindal. as it should be, my god is the voucher program badly done. if you are a small religious Christian school you love the program. a mid sized city with a normal demographic curve, you hate it.


Muslim religious schools need not apply.
2013-03-16 04:45:51 PM
1 votes:

Infernalist: But, that's the funny part. It should be a GOP value!


I completely agree with you. Why is it not?

My guess is the GOP has no values. The Republican Party only seeks tax cuts and military contracts for the employers who enrich their campaigns.
2013-03-16 04:43:22 PM
1 votes:

Delay: FTA "Jennifer Rubin, made the case for gay marriage as conservative value."

Laughter Out Loud.


I've said it before: ten years from now, the official party line will be that conservatives were ALWAYS in favor of same sex marriage and the only reason it took so long to achieve was because of the obstructionist Democrats. Remember, it was liberal hero Bill Clinton who signed DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell.
2013-03-16 04:40:07 PM
1 votes:

Delay: FTA "Jennifer Rubin, made the case for gay marriage as conservative value."

Laughter Out Loud.


But, that's the funny part. It should be a GOP value!

The GOP insists that they're the party of small government and why in the world should the government care about who gets married, as long as it's between consenting adults?   The problem lies in the social conservatives, not the fiscal 'small government' conservatives in the GOP.  But, of course, the fiscal conservatives are increasingly fewer and fewer with every election.
2013-03-16 04:39:54 PM
1 votes:

MontanaDave: dericwater: At this moment, the GOP bench is so disastrous that one could pick any pair for the ticket and I'd be saying, "Yes, oh please, oh please!"

Can anyone name two GOPers who can meet the following criteria:
1) Win their primaries
2) Win the general
3) Have sane national policies in regards to
  a) National Economics (as in, no more trickle-down)
  b) Social welfare (as in progressive taxation and support for unions)
  c) Healthcare (as in driving towards a single-payer system)
  d) Defense (in particular, have the balls to cut defense spending)
  e) Civil rights (as in, not to gut the various portions of the civil rights act)

I think the Venn Diagram of people that fit any of those criteria will show a null set for the common intersection.

Way to place the goalpost on a different playing field. You want us to name GOPers who are Democrats?


Well, see, I like to hire people based on a feature set that would be good for the country, not because the candidate might have a skin color or genitals to cover up for the short comings the party has to those with the wrong skin color or wrong genital types.
2013-03-16 04:39:21 PM
1 votes:
That's a surprisingly long list for such a short bus.
2013-03-16 04:37:49 PM
1 votes:

HeartBurnKid: Infernalist: HeartBurnKid: SilentStrider: Lionel Mandrake: Wow...Republicans really don't want to win the White House.

If they did, they'd have invited Christie. He's got some crossover appeal.

Eh, TBH, I don't think Christie would do well.  His "crossover appeal" mostly comes from the fact that he actually said nice things about Obama; once people got a load of what a loudmouthed asshole he is, I think that'd evaporate really fast.

/at least he's not farking crazy, though

Not if they played it right.  Christie has enormous appeal in his state, among both parties, due to his aggressive efforts to help his state and constituents.

A solid case could be made for a series of ads highlighting Christie's efforts to be truly bipartisan and reach across the aisle to work with Democrats.  To say absolutely 'nothing' of his open and repeated comments of scorn and disdain for GOP members who insinuated that he put national GOP needs above those of his constituents.

It can very easily be believed that Christie is a man of New Jersey before he's a Republican and 'that' translates well to a national election.  In short, if they believe he'd give the finger to the GOP over what his current constituents want and need, that he'll turn around and give the same priority to the American people over what the GOP wants from him.

And honestly, looking at the man and how he acts, I believe this would be the case.  He's a jerk, but he's the jerk responsible for New Jersey's citizens and he does right by them.

At this point, I'd want a President who'd give the finger to the blowhards in both parties and do what's needed and wanted by the American people.

That's fair enough, but an election is at least as much a popularity contest as it is a contest of policies.  Christie's personality may resonate with New Jersey, but I don't see him really winning people over outside of it; not with the way he behaves and carries himself.


Maybe, maybe not.  Bush Sr. was labeled a 'wimp' and the man was an ex-CIA chief.  People 'like' an aggressive personality in the big seat as long as he's not perceived as a bully.

If they highlight his aggressive demeanor against people that are generally not liked (terrorists, criminal figures, the GOP, rogue nations), then it'll work to his favor.
2013-03-16 04:37:00 PM
1 votes:

Infernalist: What black man could sign up for the GOP at this point and still be able to call himself a man?


imdatingablackguy.files.wordpress.com
2013-03-16 04:34:36 PM
1 votes:

redqueenmeg: propasaurus: quatchi: Richard Saunders: A Rubio/Haley ticket would be entertaining.  And by entertaining I mean,  watch liberal Democrats twitch.

*blink*

You think a Hispanic presidential candidate with a female vice presidential candidate would make Dems twitch?

[quizzicaldog]

Have you ever actually met the GOP base?

Lawls.

You see, it's because liberals are the real racists and misogynists.

Either that, or because liberals would never be able to believe that minorities would be some other party, or else liberals are obliged to vote for minorities and so they would be forced to vote Republican.


Minorities have NO reason whatsoever to vote for the GOP at the moment.  Their members are openly racist or too scared to confront the blowhards who spew racist sexist nonsense.

Consider that fellow from yesterday's article, the black fellow who'd organized this "The GOP isn't racist!" meeting, and had that bigot show up and spew his bullshiat openly and without rebuke.  Dude just sat there and 'took' this racist crap from this guy without saying a word back to him about it.

What black man could sign up for the GOP at this point and still be able to call himself a man?
2013-03-16 04:32:39 PM
1 votes:

fitsnews.com


/Uh oh, somebodies got a frowny face.
2013-03-16 04:30:36 PM
1 votes:

HeartBurnKid: SilentStrider: Lionel Mandrake: Wow...Republicans really don't want to win the White House.

If they did, they'd have invited Christie. He's got some crossover appeal.

Eh, TBH, I don't think Christie would do well.  His "crossover appeal" mostly comes from the fact that he actually said nice things about Obama; once people got a load of what a loudmouthed asshole he is, I think that'd evaporate really fast.

/at least he's not farking crazy, though


Not if they played it right.  Christie has enormous appeal in his state, among both parties, due to his aggressive efforts to help his state and constituents.

A solid case could be made for a series of ads highlighting Christie's efforts to be truly bipartisan and reach across the aisle to work with Democrats.  To say absolutely 'nothing' of his open and repeated comments of scorn and disdain for GOP members who insinuated that he put national GOP needs above those of his constituents.

It can very easily be believed that Christie is a man of New Jersey before he's a Republican and 'that' translates well to a national election.  In short, if they believe he'd give the finger to the GOP over what his current constituents want and need, that he'll turn around and give the same priority to the American people over what the GOP wants from him.

And honestly, looking at the man and how he acts, I believe this would be the case.  He's a jerk, but he's the jerk responsible for New Jersey's citizens and he does right by them.

At this point, I'd want a President who'd give the finger to the blowhards in both parties and do what's needed and wanted by the American people.
2013-03-16 04:22:21 PM
1 votes:
I highly encourage the GOP to run these two fine upstanding citizen-soldiers in the upcoming 2016 election.

I fully expect them to do well and not eat their own shiat-filled diapers on national TV before choking on their own tongues.

Again.

Also, if you could see fit to include Sarah Palin and the chick from Nevada who's not a witch, that'd be super awesome.
2013-03-16 04:21:23 PM
1 votes:

abb3w: 1) Religious nuts, who won't pass muster in the national electorate
2) Economic nuts, ditto
3) Folks in BOTH 1 and 2, double-ditto
4) North-East RINOs, who won't pass muster with the base in the GOP Primaries


That's pretty much the entire party, isn't it?
2013-03-16 04:20:30 PM
1 votes:

Counter_Intelligent: Republicans don't need to win the White House, considering they're getting just about all they want by being obstructionists in Congress.


Yes, their policy now is basically to use the "gut the government" tactic at every level. Their desire to win the presidency is just to legitimize the tactic. The reality is that they want nothing more than to make the US into a banana republic. By levi-ing regressive taxes to cause a major wealth Gap. And they want to office to make it all seem Lee-gal.
2013-03-16 04:10:33 PM
1 votes:

Alphakronik: That's like picking a kickball team at the local special education school

for paraplegics.

FTFY
2013-03-16 04:03:06 PM
1 votes:

Man On A Mission: From TFA:  Former Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels

This would be the intelligent choice, which is why it will never happen.


Horse shiat.  He gutted the education system here and then miraculously "found" $300M in an account. Pence is no better but at least we got rid of Bennett.

Still loving how the Republicans were so butthurt over Glenda Ritz beating Bennett that they tried to create an educational position (appointed) that would be over her just to get their pet voucher/charter schools going. Fark the lot of them.
2013-03-16 03:54:08 PM
1 votes:
If I recall right, they way the GOP does things is the one who came in second becomes the candidate next time.
So that would mean Santorum.  I hope that comes to pass. If Santorum doesn't become the candidate I will be sad.
2013-03-16 03:49:47 PM
1 votes:

Alphakronik: That's like picking a kickball team at the local special education school.


To be fair special education students have mental handicaps that hinder their abilities. These guys have fully functioning brains but are still incompetent morans.
2013-03-16 03:47:02 PM
1 votes:
Corporate lackies like Walker, economic ignoramuses like Ryan, former Bushies like Daniels, mental defectives like Perry and Palin, Bible Belters like Frothy Santorum  "we got one too" ethnic candidates like Jindal and the chick with the stripper name and some big guy who wasn't even invited to CPAC who's already been labelled a RINO?

So...?

GOP 2016 "We still got a wide variety of nothing."

Yeah, good luck with all that.

/Don't whether to laugh or cry here.
//Gonna go with laugh, I think.
///[ilold]
2013-03-16 03:42:39 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: Some of these are governors who are going to get suckered into sign on to Obamacare. They may as well set fire to their Republican card while they're at it.


NO TRUE SCOTSMAN!!!
2013-03-16 03:39:58 PM
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: Wow...Republicans really don't want to win the White House.


To be fair the front runners have never done well in primaries.
Just ask:
Huckabee,
Perry,
Cain,
Gingrich
etc etc

Not that I think their final decision will be that much better...
2013-03-16 03:36:47 PM
1 votes:
Jan Brewer? Is she the lady who told 2bama "you have one more year"?
2013-03-16 03:35:57 PM
1 votes:
Wisconsin leads the nation in supplying us with punchable faces.
2013-03-16 03:35:30 PM
1 votes:

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Meanwhile, Queen Sarah is still being the same old coont as always


"Palin hit Obama on everything from gun control to transparency and likened his administration to a TV reality show."

This is the same taco who had an actual reality show.
2013-03-16 01:34:21 PM
1 votes:
7. Former Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels
15. Indiana Governor Mike Pence


Double dammit! Selling everything not nailed down + tax cuts =/= good policy
2013-03-16 01:27:08 PM
1 votes:

Man On A Mission: From TFA:  Former Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels

This would be the intelligent choice, which is why it will never happen.


Not really.

/Hoosier
//Our educational system (the primary function of a state government) has been gutted, but we have a balanced budget to make him look good to fiscal conservatives!
///I'm just SURE gutting our educational system will have no long term, negative consequences in a highly competitive 21st Century economy.
2013-03-16 12:46:54 PM
1 votes:

gameshowhost: Of course Scott Walker did.  He's put WI's economy behind both the national average and (more tellingly) behind all the other states in the region.  He's only ~210k jobs away from hitting his 4-yr plan to create 250k jobs, at the *halfway point*.  Plus Forbes recently projected WI to be 2nd-worst in economic development thru 2016.  Scott Walker for President because excellent track record.


A small price to pay to stick it to the libs and put down unions.
2013-03-16 12:46:53 PM
1 votes:
They should definitely run creepy Walker. He'll do great on the national stage. I swear. And they should dredge up Palin or Ryan for VP.
2013-03-16 12:36:48 PM
1 votes:
Of course Scott Walker did.  He's put WI's economy behind both the national average and (more tellingly) behind all the other states in the region.  He's only ~210k jobs away from hitting his 4-yr plan to create 250k jobs, at the *halfway point*.  Plus Forbes recently projected WI to be 2nd-worst in economic development thru 2016.  Scott Walker for President because excellent track record.
 
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