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(Chicago Trib)   Police arrest a nine year-old for carjacking. This, not even a month after he pulled off an armed robbery at a McDonald's. Kids these days   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 22
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2013-03-16 04:57:26 PM
4 votes:
The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.
2013-03-16 05:02:27 PM
2 votes:
The most humane thing to do, for him and society, would be to slip some sleeping pills into his juvenile hall food. The, once he's asleep, drag him to a tub of water and hold his head in it until you're sure he won't be waking up.
2013-03-16 05:02:18 PM
2 votes:

Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

This kid will clearly never amount to anything.  He will be a burden and danger to society for the rest of his likely (fortunately) short life.  What do you see as the positive aspect of his presence?  Other than your self congratulatory pat on the back making your heart flutter...


I don't know why you hate him - you have so much in common.  Neither of you gives a damn about anyone but yourselves.
2013-03-16 02:42:00 PM
2 votes:
This is the sort of thing you can expect a lot more should Republicans manage to push throw cuts to social programs.


/backs out of thread slowly
2013-03-17 12:08:09 AM
1 votes:
Just put 'em down, it's the only way to be sure.
2013-03-16 09:26:30 PM
1 votes:

Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.


truly, the greatest threat we face is the attitude that you and your liberal friends possess. This little animal is bad to the core and there really is no hope for him. He will eventually murder someone. But you liberals will feel bad for him, coddle him and give him chance after chance, making excuse after excuse for him. Do yourself a favor and start rehearsing your apology to the family this little thug is going to destroy when he Lila someone for their wallet.
2013-03-16 07:47:29 PM
1 votes:

Southern100: The two aren't necessarily exclusive. The problem there, I believe, is that one group is more willing to provide much more than mitigation, and for a much longer period of time. Personally, the only problem that I have with many social programs is the abuse factor, or -the continued support of person(s) who show absolutely no desire to help themselves for as long as the government will continue to do it FOR them.


And that is the difference between us.  I'll gladly endure a scammer or two in the service of doing right by the multitude.
2013-03-16 06:29:21 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: That's a mighty fine non-answer there, Lou.

Why should I bother with a more complete response?  You have no interest.  An 'argument' is a search for truth.  You are bonded to your amorality far too tightly for anyone to convince you otherwise.  I'd call you anti-social, but I don't think you are actively against society per se - it's just a nuisance you have to deal with from time to time, like gum on your shoe.  There is no particular virtue to it other than what it can do for you, and those times it asks for you to give back, you simply ignore it and complain that it's impinging on your freedom.

Why do you want this person to be a part of society?


You make it very hard for me to be tolerant of those whose political affiliations differ from mine.
2013-03-16 06:23:49 PM
1 votes:

Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.


The moral decay of America is not a strictly conservative problem - it's a religious one. As more and more of America has moved away from religious values, this type of problem has become more and more common throughout.

After all, how many Altar Boys do you know that are members of gangs? How many gang members in general do you see that attend church every Sunday? Sure, there are exceptions, but they are exceptions - not the rule (and I'm sure that more than a few of them only go, kicking and screaming the entire way, because their parents drag them by the ear). :)

Now, I'm certainly not condoning religion, or saying that if you don't go, you're going to burn in hell!!, I'm just pointing out that as religion becomes less prevalent, violence in society is becoming MORE prevalent. I consider myself Christian, and I attempt to live up to the ideals, but heck, the last time I stepped in an actual church was probably 5+ years ago.

It's not necessarily a Republican or Democrat problem - Morality transcends politics.

The question is, taking the entire United States as a whole, which group do you think has (or at the very least, TEACHES) "higher" moral values?
2013-03-16 05:51:43 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: That's a mighty fine non-answer there, Lou.


Why should I bother with a more complete response?  You have no interest.  An 'argument' is a search for truth.  You are bonded to your amorality far too tightly for anyone to convince you otherwise.  I'd call you anti-social, but I don't think you are actively against society per se - it's just a nuisance you have to deal with from time to time, like gum on your shoe.  There is no particular virtue to it other than what it can do for you, and those times it asks for you to give back, you simply ignore it and complain that it's impinging on your freedom.
2013-03-16 05:22:57 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

This kid will clearly never amount to anything.  He will be a burden and danger to society for the rest of his likely (fortunately) short life.  What do you see as the positive aspect of his presence?  Other than your self congratulatory pat on the back making your heart flutter...

I don't know why you hate him - you have so much in common.  Neither of you gives a damn about anyone but yourselves.

Yet, you wanted to have sympathy for him.  Strange, man.


It's called enlightened self-interest, not sympathy.  But it's a concept that doesn't revolve around narcissism so I doubt you are familiar.
2013-03-16 05:21:23 PM
1 votes:

Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

 If I were Emperor, I'd build state-run foster homes out in the desert, 50 miles away from the nearest city. There'd be a school, infirmary, mess hall, dorms, vocational workshops. It'd be run by the many young teachers who genuinely want to make a difference - those same teachers we've laid off by the droves in recent years. They'd live there, too.
These kids would get education, discipline, and respect for self and others. The use of force would be allowed, though not to abuse. Regular visits from the red cross or whatever NGO would like to take on the role of monitoring. kids would be allowed to stay until they are 25. their families lose all rights to the kids.teachers would be paid 85,000 a year, with free room, board, and transportation stipend.all of this would be very expensive. I'd say that it'd cost as much to run a prison to run one of these academies. but it would sure as hell be a lot cheaper than our current way of dealing with the problem.
2013-03-16 05:20:57 PM
1 votes:

MJMaloney187: Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

If all conservatives died off, would that make you happy?


I'd rather they took an interest in being fully functioning members of society, instead of just taking the good bits without doing their part for the common good.
2013-03-16 05:00:41 PM
1 votes:

Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.


This kid will clearly never amount to anything.  He will be a burden and danger to society for the rest of his likely (fortunately) short life.  What do you see as the positive aspect of his presence?  Other than your self congratulatory pat on the back making your heart flutter...
2013-03-16 04:59:06 PM
1 votes:
Wuzza problem? He just be bangin'.
2013-03-16 04:55:44 PM
1 votes:
Two words - public caning
2013-03-16 04:44:05 PM
1 votes:
Just wait til your father's release date!
2013-03-16 04:42:13 PM
1 votes:
Really? A 2003 Pontiac?

Poor Ole Nineyearold Thinks Its A Cadillac.
2013-03-16 04:41:11 PM
1 votes:
Autoplay video = fail.
2013-03-16 04:38:57 PM
1 votes:
Trash should be locked away early before he kills someone at 10.  He'll just get sent home with mama though.  "He's such a good little boy..."
2013-03-16 04:35:29 PM
1 votes:

BillCo: It's Chicago, what do you expect from a city whose political leaders think that all of their problems would go away if they could only make every gun not in the hands of a policeman magically disappear.  The liberals in charge of the zoo don't want to face the socio-economic issues that make it a festering shiathole of unrest and racial hate.

Sadly, we have a president with the same attitude.


i don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, but you're really reaching to squeeze this one in here.
2013-03-16 04:09:52 PM
1 votes:
At what point do the parents get pulled into the criminal process?
 
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