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(Chicago Trib)   Police arrest a nine year-old for carjacking. This, not even a month after he pulled off an armed robbery at a McDonald's. Kids these days   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 89
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2013-03-16 06:25:47 PM

balisane: Are these kids in a crap foster home, or what? Where are the adults in their lives?


By necessity, they have a mom.. their dad is someone who hit it once and turned it over to the welfare system.. and that,s where the real problem is....
 
2013-03-16 06:29:21 PM

Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: That's a mighty fine non-answer there, Lou.

Why should I bother with a more complete response?  You have no interest.  An 'argument' is a search for truth.  You are bonded to your amorality far too tightly for anyone to convince you otherwise.  I'd call you anti-social, but I don't think you are actively against society per se - it's just a nuisance you have to deal with from time to time, like gum on your shoe.  There is no particular virtue to it other than what it can do for you, and those times it asks for you to give back, you simply ignore it and complain that it's impinging on your freedom.

Why do you want this person to be a part of society?


You make it very hard for me to be tolerant of those whose political affiliations differ from mine.
 
2013-03-16 06:31:47 PM

OgreMagi: Silly Jesus: OgreMagi: I think public flogging of the parent(s) is in order since this is a major failure in parenting.

You just lit the Al Sharpton / Jesse Jackson bat signal.

I have no idea of the race of the kid and his parents, so fark those two racist pieces of shiat.  Sharpton and Jackson are opportunists manufacturing outrage to line their own pockets.


THIS !
 
2013-03-16 06:33:46 PM
He sounds more like a lakey.  Still, I'd be impressed if my son showed that kind of initiative.
 
2013-03-16 06:38:25 PM

Southern100: The question is, taking the entire United States as a whole, which group do you think has (or at the very least, TEACHES) "higher" moral values?


Which group is more willing to endure the cost of mitigating the plight of the fallen as an integral part of their duty to our society?
 
2013-03-16 06:41:35 PM

Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: That's a mighty fine non-answer there, Lou.

Why should I bother with a more complete response?  You have no interest.  An 'argument' is a search for truth.  You are bonded to your amorality far too tightly for anyone to convince you otherwise.  I'd call you anti-social, but I don't think you are actively against society per se - it's just a nuisance you have to deal with from time to time, like gum on your shoe.  There is no particular virtue to it other than what it can do for you, and those times it asks for you to give back, you simply ignore it and complain that it's impinging on your freedom.

Why do you want this person to be a part of society?

You know, what I love best about your handle is that it's a metaphor for your ilk - constantly invoking His name, despite not agreeing with Him about much.


So no answer?
 
2013-03-16 06:42:41 PM

inclemency: Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: That's a mighty fine non-answer there, Lou.

Why should I bother with a more complete response?  You have no interest.  An 'argument' is a search for truth.  You are bonded to your amorality far too tightly for anyone to convince you otherwise.  I'd call you anti-social, but I don't think you are actively against society per se - it's just a nuisance you have to deal with from time to time, like gum on your shoe.  There is no particular virtue to it other than what it can do for you, and those times it asks for you to give back, you simply ignore it and complain that it's impinging on your freedom.

Why do you want this person to be a part of society?

You make it very hard for me to be tolerant of those whose political affiliations differ from mine.


You're unable to answer the question either?  Strange phenomenon.
 
2013-03-16 06:45:15 PM

Silly Jesus: Why do you want this person to be a part of society?

You know, what I love best about your handle is that it's a metaphor for your ilk - constantly invoking His name, despite not agreeing with Him about much.

So no answer?


None that would please you.  I don't consider myself qualified to pick who deserves mercy and help - that would appear to be your domain.
 
2013-03-16 07:03:22 PM
Treat the little shiat the same as an unwanted farm animal" Gunny sack+tied tight+deep river.
 
2013-03-16 07:04:26 PM

Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: Why do you want this person to be a part of society?

You know, what I love best about your handle is that it's a metaphor for your ilk - constantly invoking His name, despite not agreeing with Him about much.

So no answer?

None that would please you.  I don't consider myself qualified to pick who deserves mercy and help - that would appear to be your domain.


So everyone is the same?  All people are equal and none should be removed from society for the greater good of all?
 
2013-03-16 07:13:48 PM

Silly Jesus: All people are equal


"We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
 
2013-03-16 07:18:44 PM

Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: All people are equal

"We hold these truths to be self-evident..."


Well, we should throw open the gates of all the prisons then, right?
 
2013-03-16 07:19:13 PM

Paul Baumer: Southern100: The question is, taking the entire United States as a whole, which group do you think has (or at the very least, TEACHES) "higher" moral values?

Which group is more willing to endure the cost of mitigating the plight of the fallen as an integral part of their duty to our society?


The two aren't necessarily exclusive. The problem there, I believe, is that one group is more willing to provide much more than mitigation, and for a much longer period of time. Personally, the only problem that I have with many social programs is the abuse factor, or -the continued support of person(s) who show absolutely no desire to help themselves for as long as the government will continue to do it FOR them.

But this brings in politics; morality has nothing to do with politics. Even if I and my family were living on the street and starving, I wouldn't go and rob someone at gunpoint, possibly murdering them, for the $20 in their wallet. Nor would I go and shoot someone just because "they dissed me" or because they were on my "turf".

You can say what you want about morality, but it's my firm believe that as more and more parents teach their children that they're precious, should always get their way, and should do "whatever makes you happy, honey", problems of this nature will just continue to worsen in society.
 
2013-03-16 07:24:28 PM

BillCo: It's Chicago, what do you expect from a city whose political leaders think that all of their problems would go away if they could only make every gun not in the hands of a policeman magically disappear.  The liberals in charge of the zoo don't want to face the socio-economic issues that make it a festering shiathole of unrest and racial hate.

Sadly, we have a president with the same attitude.


I_Am_Weasel: This is the sort of thing you can expect a lot more should Republicans manage to push throw cuts to social programs.


/backs out of thread slowly


Or, possibly, not everything bad that happens in the world has a simplistically attributable cause.
Naw, I guess that's just crazy talk.
 
2013-03-16 07:33:09 PM

Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: All people are equal

"We hold these truths to be self-evident..."

Well, we should throw open the gates of all the prisons then, right?


This too I know-and wise it were If each could know the same-
That every prison that men build Is built with bricks of shame,
And bound with bars lest Christ should see
How men their brothers maim. -

Oscar Wilde
http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/19410
 
2013-03-16 07:33:42 PM

jso2897: BillCo: It's Chicago, what do you expect from a city whose political leaders think that all of their problems would go away if they could only make every gun not in the hands of a policeman magically disappear.  The liberals in charge of the zoo don't want to face the socio-economic issues that make it a festering shiathole of unrest and racial hate.

Sadly, we have a president with the same attitude.

I_Am_Weasel: This is the sort of thing you can expect a lot more should Republicans manage to push throw cuts to social programs.


/backs out of thread slowly

Or, possibly, not everything bad that happens in the world has a simplistically attributable cause.
Naw, I guess that's just crazy talk.


No, he's right. Everything wrong with America is the fault of Republicans & Religion. Not parents. Not schools. Everything is the fault of those darn Republicans.  If we just could get rid of all the republicans, and put all these poor people on Government Assistance and give them all $50,000 a year so they have no needs, no wants, and can sit around all day drinking beer or what-have-you, the entire United States will be a utopia.
 
2013-03-16 07:35:09 PM

Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: All people are equal

"We hold these truths to be self-evident..."

Well, we should throw open the gates of all the prisons then, right?

This too I know-and wise it were If each could know the same-
That every prison that men build Is built with bricks of shame,
And bound with bars lest Christ should see
How men their brothers maim. -

Oscar Wilde
http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/19410


You're an awfully strange bird.
 
2013-03-16 07:39:47 PM
Thanks Obama!
 
2013-03-16 07:43:25 PM

Silly Jesus: You're an awfully strange bird.


But not one who abides idle cruelty as a catchall solution to the ills of the world.
 
2013-03-16 07:47:29 PM

Southern100: The two aren't necessarily exclusive. The problem there, I believe, is that one group is more willing to provide much more than mitigation, and for a much longer period of time. Personally, the only problem that I have with many social programs is the abuse factor, or -the continued support of person(s) who show absolutely no desire to help themselves for as long as the government will continue to do it FOR them.


And that is the difference between us.  I'll gladly endure a scammer or two in the service of doing right by the multitude.
 
2013-03-16 07:54:55 PM
Just abort the sh*thead.
 
2013-03-16 07:56:04 PM

Southern100: jso2897: BillCo: It's Chicago, what do you expect from a city whose political leaders think that all of their problems would go away if they could only make every gun not in the hands of a policeman magically disappear.  The liberals in charge of the zoo don't want to face the socio-economic issues that make it a festering shiathole of unrest and racial hate.

Sadly, we have a president with the same attitude.

I_Am_Weasel: This is the sort of thing you can expect a lot more should Republicans manage to push throw cuts to social programs.


/backs out of thread slowly

Or, possibly, not everything bad that happens in the world has a simplistically attributable cause.
Naw, I guess that's just crazy talk.

No, he's right. Everything wrong with America is the fault of Republicans & Religion. Not parents. Not schools. Everything is the fault of those darn Republicans.  If we just could get rid of all the republicans, and put all these poor people on Government Assistance and give them all $50,000 a year so they have no needs, no wants, and can sit around all day drinking beer or what-have-you, the entire United States will be a utopia.


Way to miss my point by a light-year or so. I know it's hard to grasp - but I wasn't talking about politics. You might have noticed that I quoted two different people. Did that not.....oh, never mind. Why the f**k do I bother?
 
2013-03-16 07:58:42 PM

trappedspirit: Just wait til your father's release date Maury gets the paternity test results back!

FTFY.
 
2013-03-16 08:34:41 PM

Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: All people are equal

"We hold these truths to be self-evident..."

Well, we should throw open the gates of all the prisons then, right?

This too I know-and wise it were If each could know the same-
That every prison that men build Is built with bricks of shame,
And bound with bars lest Christ should see
How men their brothers maim. -

Oscar Wilde
http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/19410

You're an awfully strange bird.



Not really.I see this type on Fark every day.  Ask them to explain or answer a direct question and you get  psychobabble.  Intellectually dishonest at best.
 
2013-03-16 08:36:44 PM

Paul Baumer: Southern100: The question is, taking the entire United States as a whole, which group do you think has (or at the very least, TEACHES) "higher" moral values?

Which group is more willing to endure the cost of mitigating the plight of the fallen as an integral part of their duty to our society?


I don't think anyone is stopping you and everyone else in your group from enduring these costs of which you speak. Or did you mean "willing to force everyone to endure the costs"?
 
2013-03-16 08:46:00 PM

Lord Jubjub: At what point do the parents get pulled into the criminal process?


Who said they haven't been?  I'm going to guess the guardian is a Great Aunt or something.
 
2013-03-16 09:01:59 PM

jso2897: Way to miss my point by a light-year or so. I know it's hard to grasp - but I wasn't talking about politics. You might have noticed that I quoted two different people. Did that not.....oh, never mind. Why the f**k do I bother?


Jso, my reply was directed towards Bills comment, not yours. :)

Sorry that wasn't more clear. :)
 
2013-03-16 09:26:30 PM

Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.


truly, the greatest threat we face is the attitude that you and your liberal friends possess. This little animal is bad to the core and there really is no hope for him. He will eventually murder someone. But you liberals will feel bad for him, coddle him and give him chance after chance, making excuse after excuse for him. Do yourself a favor and start rehearsing your apology to the family this little thug is going to destroy when he Lila someone for their wallet.
 
2013-03-16 09:43:57 PM

Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.


AND on top of that, they do everything they can to prevent abortions (because kids raised by people who don't want them turn out so great) and gut funding for programs like Head Start and others that actually help make children's lives better.

Because it's better that children be born unwanted and abused and then either die of preventable diseases because vaccination programs have been cut or thrown into prison when they are "tried as an adult" for some crime.

/conservatives make me puke
 
2013-03-16 09:56:10 PM

I_Am_Weasel: This is the sort of thing you can expect a lot more should Republicans manage to push throw cuts to social programs.


/backs out of thread slowly


2/10
 
2013-03-16 10:13:55 PM

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2013-03-16 10:55:57 PM

MJMaloney187: Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

If all conservatives died off, would that make you happy?


If by conservatives you really mean authoritarians then you bet it would.
 
2013-03-16 11:28:21 PM
I hope he doesn't get Judge Biedeman!
 
2013-03-16 11:35:55 PM

Southern100: jso2897: Way to miss my point by a light-year or so. I know it's hard to grasp - but I wasn't talking about politics. You might have noticed that I quoted two different people. Did that not.....oh, never mind. Why the f**k do I bother?

Jso, my reply was directed towards Bills comment, not yours. :)

Sorry that wasn't more clear. :)


My point is, that they are both trying to make the darkness go away by explaining.
Whenever we see something ugly and scarey, that makes our soul recoil in horror, we try to explain, and say "Oh, look - this happened BECAUSE blah, blah, blah. etc."
No. Evil, and ugly and shiatty just ARE.
If people want to reassure themselves, they'd be just as well off sucking their thumbs, as trying to explain.
Maybe better.
 
2013-03-17 12:00:41 AM

kg2095: MJMaloney187: Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

If all conservatives died off, would that make you happy?

If by conservatives you really mean authoritarians then you bet it would.


Not really. In fact, you would be less happy with no one to hate - hate is a distraction, and a diversion. It lets you ignore, fore brief moment, the truth. The truth being that, a few years ago, you - a slimy, squalling wad of protoplasm, were squirted out of a slit in another squalling wad of protoplasm. It pretended to "love' you, because it was programmed to. You managed  (sadly) to survive the hate and terror filled hell we call "childhood", and have now taken your place in "society". That being to spend you days in mindless, soulless, pointless activity, in order to keep forcing food into you maw, and shiat out your asshole, while you accumulate a shiatty little pile of worthless possessions, so you can live in terror of some other bag of protoplasm somehow getting the shiatty little pile away from you.
Meanwhile, you surround yourself with other bags of protoplasm with whom you have "relationships", that consist of you all pretending not to loathe one another. Soon, they will tire of you and you will grow weak, and they will shove you into a warehouse for dying protoplasm, where you will rot for a few years before they toss you into a hole so you can rot properly.
And when you are gone, the world won't miss you, any more than it wanted you to begin with.
But hey - if you really think you would be what protoplasmic muck thinks is "happy" if the people you think are the problem weren't around - think it. But you will never be one twentieth as "happy" as a dog lying in the morning sun, licking it's balls. And you don't deserve to. None of us do.
Have a nice day!
 
2013-03-17 12:08:09 AM
Just put 'em down, it's the only way to be sure.
 
2013-03-17 01:25:03 AM
Suspect was reported as having been "smoking with cigarettes" earlier in the day.

/not obscure, hopefully
 
2013-03-17 04:40:19 AM

Southern100: Even if I and my family were living on the street and starving, I wouldn't go and rob someone at gunpoint, possibly murdering them, for the $20 in their wallet


Nor did this kid do that.

He's 9.  Farkin 9!  He's tagging along with the 14 year old he lives with, and that little criminal's fellow criminals.  A bunch of people here can't grasp "little kid tagging along" is not the same as "committing crimes himself".

And are ready to throw a 9 year old away like garbage.  What a bunch of idiots. If you think a 9 year old who tags along while older kids jack a car should be drowned, you're a farking dick.  You have and deserve no empathy.  I hope someone puts you down like a vicious animal, because that's what you are.
 
2013-03-17 10:11:49 AM

kg2095: MJMaloney187: Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.  You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

If all conservatives died off, would that make you happy?

If by conservatives you really mean authoritarians then you bet it would.


Good parents are authoritarians. Perhaps if the rabid child had had an authoritarian upbringing, he wouldn't be caught up in the penal system, the most brutally authoritarian of systems. None of that "what if" nonsense matters now, though.

That anyone would redirect their hate for conservatives in defense of someone who carjacks and commits armed robbery is beyond the pale. It's also, dare I say, disingenuous.
 
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