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2013-03-16 03:08:25 PM
39 votes:

This About That: Anybody remember back in the day, when the kid got loud, one of his parents would pick him up and carry him outside until he settled down? How is it that some kid's parents' rights instilled the obligation upon the rest of us to put up with his crap? What happened to our rights?


My parents had to take me for a walk outside a f*cking Papa Ginos (NE pizza chain) because I would not stop crying when I realized we were here for pizza and the pizza wasn't here yet.

It was an awkward 25th birthday party.
2013-03-16 12:44:54 PM
14 votes:
To be fair, it's getting might difficult to distinguish between the developmentally disabled and the genuine assholes.    Numerically speaking, there are many more genuine assholes, so perhaps we could the assholes wear a special hat or something.  Or a t-shirt reading "I possess all my mental faculties, I am just a dick."
2013-03-16 02:57:00 PM
11 votes:
The problem is that every asshole behavior is being turned into some medical condition.  So then you have to "understand" the person while being treated like shiat.

I have a simple strategy for obnoxious children in restaurants.  I go up to the parents with a smile and tell them that the conditions of my parole say that I shouldn't be this close to children.
2013-03-16 04:10:15 PM
8 votes:
We have a place for these kinds of people: the engineering department.
2013-03-16 12:40:47 PM
8 votes:
This was very good, subby, and you are going to be rewarded in the thread. And you avoided what would have been overkill in selecting the Hero tag, a common rookie mistake. My one suggestion would have been to redirect the apologetic element in the first half of the headline, which diminishes some of the overall punch. Instead of apologizing on behalf of the child, I would have had the woman apologizing for the person being bothered by the child, e.g., "I'm sorry that you are bothered by my autistic child acting out. Let me tell you how you need to deal with it." A minor tweak, to be sure, but it would have upped the rage at least a notch or two.
2013-03-16 04:28:41 PM
7 votes:
I'm sorry your daughter couldn't tolerate my disabled son smiling at her with both of his hands down his pants. I wish she wasn't a Nazi.
2013-03-16 04:28:13 PM
7 votes:

WTFdoesitmatter: autistic, and at age 28, he is more obnoxious to deal with than almost any run of the mill 6 year old child in public. What makes it worse is that he refuses to exercise control over the volume of his voice, and constantly makes very disturbing, violent, and sexual comments and actions


What's his Fark handle?
2013-03-16 04:26:11 PM
6 votes:
Fark: where regular kids irritate the hell out of us, but ones with developmental disorders don't.

I wonder how people will rect if autistic adults smoked in bars while tipping only at 10%.
2013-03-16 04:08:15 PM
6 votes:
Sometimes I park in handicapped spaces while handicapped people make handicapped faces...
2013-03-16 06:27:22 PM
4 votes:

Lsherm: "that kid sounds like two elephants farking on top of a dying giraffe."


anongallery.org
2013-03-16 04:13:36 PM
4 votes:
I, too, am retarded and therefore have the right to do whatever the fark I want in public. Better hide them titties biatches.
2013-03-16 01:03:13 PM
4 votes:

Pocket Ninja: This was very good, subby, and you are going to be rewarded in the thread. And you avoided what would have been overkill in selecting the Hero tag, a common rookie mistake. My one suggestion would have been to redirect the apologetic element in the first half of the headline, which diminishes some of the overall punch. Instead of apologizing on behalf of the child, I would have had the woman apologizing for the person being bothered by the child, e.g., "I'm sorry that you are bothered by my autistic child acting out. Let me tell you how you need to deal with it." A minor tweak, to be sure, but it would have upped the rage at least a notch or two.


I disagree. The genius of subby's headline is that it starts out with a parent of an autistic child behaving reasonably for once. You get this false sense of hope, only to have it taken away.
2013-03-17 11:12:33 AM
3 votes:
"HAMBURGER!  FRENCH FRIES!" <knife and fork banging on the table>

"Shhhhhhh," he hissed from across the room.

"HAMBURGER!  FRENCH FRIES!" <knife and fork banging on the table>

Everyone at the table instantly froze-except, of course, for Jonah. "I'm sorry," I explained, rising from my seat and taking a few steps toward him so I wouldn't have to holler. "My son is autistic ... "

"HAMBURGER!  FRENCH FRIES!" <knife and fork banging on the table>

"Oh, sorry," he said.

"HAMBURGER!  FRENCH FRIES!" <knife and fork banging on the table>

"He's not trying to disturb you intentionally ... "

"HAMBURGER!  FRENCH FRIES!" <knife and fork banging on the table>

"I heard you the first time," he snapped.

"HAMBURGER!  FRENCH FRIES!" <knife and fork banging on the table>

My face burned as I returned to my seat, his gratuitous nastiness instantly draining the joy from my evening.

"HAMBURGER!  FRENCH FRIES!" <knife and fork banging on the table>
2013-03-16 06:37:10 PM
3 votes:

kimmygibblershomework: L.D. Ablo: The problem is that every asshole behavior is being turned into some medical condition.  So then you have to "understand" the person while being treated like shiat.

I have a simple strategy for obnoxious children in restaurants.  I go up to the parents with a smile and tell them that the conditions of my parole say that I shouldn't be this close to children.

THIS.  Folks can marry their houseplant but bog forbid if I want to find my wife's ring in the grass with a metal detector.  A pet peeve of mine is all of the local idiots that bought some regentrified WW2 shoebox and park their car on the street.  Ya have that whole driveway and can't save all of the other users of the road the hassle of avoiding your car because you can't take an extra 15 seconds to back out of your driveway.  As my dad used to say, "the fleas come with the dog". I also appreciate the general 'tude of if I want to enjoy the one day I have off with the woman I love and buy her food and I am irked by someone's behavior, that I am some sort of caveperson.  Just get em a tshirt.  If their own behavior doesn't bother them at all, then why would a tshirt that explains their condition to the public?  We all want to know how special lil Suzy pink panties is also, so as not to offend thee.  Any dog under 25 pounds is not a service dog.  Just get a furby and feed them with your smartphone.  Also get the ADA tattooed on your forehead so we don't have to listen to the "You are NOT ALLOWED to ask me that question!" horseshiat in every airport, eatery, busline, sitcom, fruitbats, orangutans, and sitch.


Uh...okay.
2013-03-16 05:57:32 PM
3 votes:

aesirx: WTFdoesitmatter: Popcorn Johnny: You don't get a free pass to disturb others in public places just because you have a disability.

THIS.

If they can't handle being out in most public places, don't subject others to their actions.

Sorry, but "He's autistic, deal with it" will not fly with me.

from the article, the mother makes conscious decision to NOT go to MOST public spaces. she usually goes to SPECIFIC public spaces where rowdy behavior is ok. She doesn't go to opening night of a new Batman movie, she goes to some crappy kids movie at 10am.

your personal situation is your own deal; can't you agree that THIS mother is fair and reasonable?


No kidding.  Because we've seen how people with developmental disabilities act on opening night of new Batman movies.
2013-03-16 04:47:31 PM
3 votes:
I really think we need to take a lesson from ancient Sparta. Their compassion for retards was the stuff of legend.
2013-03-16 04:31:54 PM
3 votes:

super_grass: What's his Fark handle?


Drew.
2013-03-16 04:22:30 PM
3 votes:

tallguywithglasseson: Cup_O_Jo: Lumping mental retardation in with physical handicapped people is demeaning.

To who?


Come on, that's really wrong and offensive.

It's "To whom?"
2013-03-16 04:06:38 PM
3 votes:
Earlier this year, I was out to dinner with a friend and our combined eight kids.

Two adults vs 8 eights and some of them with special needs.  Unless its chucky cheese, you are assholes.  No, no arguments, you are assholes.
2013-03-16 03:37:46 PM
3 votes:

I_C_Weener: I'm sorry my cancer stricken son's wheel chair is taking up most of the elevator, perhaps you should deal with it


i46.tinypic.com
2013-03-16 09:23:58 PM
2 votes:

cptjeff: The problem is that I'm tired and haven't eaten yet


Probably because there was an autistic child at the next table.
2013-03-16 06:49:42 PM
2 votes:

SploogeTime: Hey guys! Get sterilized!


Or perhaps:

2.bp.blogspot.com

/your move
2013-03-16 05:56:35 PM
2 votes:

Ennuipoet: To be fair, it's getting might difficult to distinguish between the developmentally disabled and the genuine assholes.    Numerically speaking, there are many more genuine assholes, so perhaps we could the assholes wear a special hat or something.  Or a t-shirt reading "I possess all my mental faculties, I am just a dick."


You're in luck -- this already exists.  Look for the codeword "Tapout."  You can also look for a Bluetooth device lodged in the subject's ear in inappropriate situations.
2013-03-16 05:34:56 PM
2 votes:
 Jonah, who has autism, was very excited about the imminent arrival of his hamburger and french fries, so he was acting as he does when he's happy: bouncing in his seat, clapping his hands, and vocalizing a mishmash of squawks and catchphrases from his favoriteSesame Street videos.

Your son does not have autism. He's a 'tard.
2013-03-16 05:14:23 PM
2 votes:

Dragonflew: Cup_O_Jo: No mentally disabled is way different than physically disabled. But hey you want to lump us all in together you go ahead. I hope you live life with all your limbs and brain working.

So you would be just fine with a mentally retarded person being insulted by being called "disabled" because it included people like you?


I saw a documentary a while ago of paraplegics sports and one of the guys was saying he hated when people called it the Special Olympics because, according to him, "he's not a farking retard" he just couldn't use his legs.
2013-03-16 04:42:07 PM
2 votes:

Matthew Keene: Here's a question to ponder. You're out in public, and some autistic crotchfruit smacks you hard from behind, and the mother tells you to deal with it because her child is just 'acting out.' What would you do about it?


Well, I'm a psychopath. So I would probably "act out".

We cool?
2013-03-16 04:26:26 PM
2 votes:

Ennuipoet: To be fair, it's getting might difficult to distinguish between the developmentally disabled and the genuine assholes.    Numerically speaking, there are many more genuine assholes, so perhaps we could the assholes wear a special hat or something.  Or a t-shirt reading "I possess all my mental faculties, I am just a dick."


i.imgur.com
2013-03-16 04:25:27 PM
2 votes:

Cup_O_Jo: #1. Autism from what I have learned in the last years is not a DISABILITY. I am disabled. I have MS.
Please don't compare me to the Mentally "disabled". I would appreciate it. Lumping mental retardation in with physical handicapped people is demeaning.
#2. I don't get a free pass to do whatever I want. If I forget my cane and fall onto someone's wedding cake---"oh sorry" is not going to work. Instead I go places prepared to handle my condition whatever it is that day.
#3. All people mentioned had a caretaker. Maybe the Mom should have been sitting closer to her son-paying more attention to him. Maybe the sister should have her brother on a leash. And maybe the writer should understand I don't want your teenage sons grubby hands all in my freaking salad bar.
This article to me is one of those "it takes a village to raise a child and my child (ect) is autisitic so you should learn how to deal with it. WHEN in fact people should be learning how to handle it themselves, Society is nerfed enough. Yes, we understand your child has special needs however, you need to understand YOU are going to have to do extra work to have them in society.


I agree, it is demeaning. After all, their bodies work!

What, you have a "better" disability? Is your disability superior? I hope a helpful tard pushes your chair into traffic.
2013-03-16 04:14:33 PM
2 votes:

I_C_Weener: Popcorn Johnny: You don't get a free pass to disturb others in public places just because you have a disability.

I'm sorry my cancer stricken son's wheel chair is taking up most of the elevator, perhaps you should deal with it


Perhaps he should use the stairs.
2013-03-17 12:56:35 PM
1 votes:

kimmygibblershomework: Folks can marry their houseplant but bog forbid if I want to find my wife's ring in the grass with a metal detector.  A pet peeve of mine is all of the local idiots that bought some regentrified WW2 shoebox and park their car on the street.  Ya have that whole driveway and can't save all of the other users of the road the hassle of avoiding your car because you can't take an extra 15 seconds to back out of your driveway.  As my dad used to say, "the fleas come with the dog". I also appreciate the general 'tude of if I want to enjoy the one day I have off with the woman I love and buy her food and I am irked by someone's behavior, that I am some sort of caveperson.  Just get em a tshirt.  If their own behavior doesn't bother them at all, then why would a tshirt that explains their condition to the public?  We all want to know how special lil Suzy pink panties is also, so as not to offend thee.  Any dog under 25 pounds is not a service dog.  Just get a furby and feed them with your smartphone.  Also get the ADA tattooed on your forehead so we don't have to listen to the "You are NOT ALLOWED to ask me that question!" horseshiat in every airport, eatery, busline, sitcom, fruitbats, orangutans, and sitch.


Are you.... are you having a stroke?  Do you need me to call emergency services?
2013-03-17 07:32:03 AM
1 votes:

UnspokenVoice: hundreddollarman: UnspokenVoice: hundreddollarman: UnspokenVoice: Chinchillazilla: He has been scowled at on airplanes, in movie theaters, in restaurants, and in bookstores. And I get it-I prefer a quiet airplane ride as much as the next person.

The thing is, you probably don't prefer quiet as much as I do. I have Asperger's, and part of that is that I have a really low tolerance for loud, high-pitched, and/or irregularly spaced noises. A loud crowd? I can deal. A single shrieking person? My ears will single that out for special attention. I am not capable of distracting myself from it. It can cause me to have a panic attack if I can't escape the source of the noise.

So what do I do in situations like this? Am I just screwed because my disability conflicts with the more severe disabilities of others?

You should carry a gun an AR-15.

FTFY

An AR-15 is a good idea BUT it means losing the surprise aspect. Perhaps a pair of Mk IIIs is a suitable compromise and one can always carry extra magazines.

Good point. A handgun is more concealable, but if I'm going to carry a pistol, it wouldn't be a .22. I'd go with a 9mm, something like a Glock 26.

Ah, see I opted for .22 for a reason. Think about how many rounds they can carry AND shoot into a person while they're still standing. They can gleefully dump an entire magazine into a person and still have a dozen magazines in their front pocket or scattered about their body. A 9mm is going to do the job in just a single round or two. S'not nearly as much fun I don't imagine.


Every time someone questions the stopping power of a .22, I ask if I can shoot them in the chest with one.

No takers yet, oddly.
2013-03-17 06:04:53 AM
1 votes:
"Shhhhhhh," he hissed from across the room.
Everyone at the table instantly froze-except, of course, for Jonah. "I'm sorry," I explained, rising from my seat and taking a few steps toward him so I wouldn't have to holler. "My son is autistic ... "
"Oh, sorry," he said.
"He's not trying to disturb you intentionally ... "
"I heard you the first time," he snapped, "you`ve pulled the disability card so I just have to listen to flippy there ruin my evening and shut up or have you write an article about me on the internet and how terrible I am"
2013-03-17 04:42:55 AM
1 votes:

Dr. Whoof: Because based on the article, she sounds like she may have undiagnosed mild autism herself.


"Mild autism" is like "slight pregnancy".
2013-03-17 03:37:45 AM
1 votes:
I will bite the trollbait this one time. I have a developmentally disabled child who is diagnosed with Asperger's. To childless, insensitive assholes FARK YOU. I deal with his behavior 24/7. Suck me dry. I don't get a vacation from this. I am going to eat out. I will kick your dinner into your face if you question my parenting abilities. I have absolutely had it with entitled assholes who think they do nothing wrong. I am going to movies with him. I love him. He isn't trying to be a distraction. He doesn't know all society's norms. I teach him as best I can. If you can't handle it, it's your problem.
2013-03-17 12:51:53 AM
1 votes:

SpaceBison: Gyrfalcon: SpaceBison: Austism is just a made up disease used to cover for the parent's inability or unwillingness to disciple their little crotchfruits.

Tell us more, Dr. SpaceBIson. Want to explain how schizophrenics really just have a different view of the world, and depressives just need more vitamins and exercise?

What do schizos and depressed people have to do with being a spoiled brat?


I have no idea, but why did you feel the need to make this discussion about you?
2013-03-17 12:19:54 AM
1 votes:

BumpInTheNight: Earlier this year, I was out to dinner with a friend and our combined eight kids.

Two adults vs 8 eights and some of them with special needs.  Unless its chucky cheese, you are assholes.  No, no arguments, you are assholes.


I was a little on the fence until I saw that part. Can you imagine that crowd at the movies? C'mon now, they cant possibly wait until Saw 5000 has a "special kid showing," or HEAVEN FORBID they wait until it comes out on DVD?
2013-03-16 11:54:22 PM
1 votes:

Smarshmallow: PsiChick:  I had undiagnosed Asperger's Syndrome

How do you know this, if it hasn't been diagnosed?


The word 'had' is past tense. It was diagnosed around eighteen or so. I have Asperger's, but I don't usually display symptoms anymore, and I wasn't displaying a lot at diagnosis, because my mother taught me a lot of what I was missing. I only had to work for a few months to bump up past 'Asperger's' to just 'weirdo' territory.
2013-03-16 11:49:16 PM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: While I agree with most of what you say, I feel your post is slightly insulting to people who have autism.

The mother wasn't autistic; she was just a self-centred, narcissistic biatch.


Can you be sure of that?  Because based on the article, she sounds like she may have undiagnosed mild autism herself.  She can't seem to understand what's acceptable public behavior and what isn't.  She clearly couldn't tell her son was being disruptive.  And autism, or the risk for autism, is inheritable.

So, no, basically I'm insulting this author and suggesting they get themselves checked out, as I would forgive them completely for their ignorance and need to drive home a point with a person who had already apologized if they were themselves autistic...but if not, then yest, they are a self-centered, narcissistic biatch who will likely raise an autistic child at a far lower functional level than the child deserves.
2013-03-16 11:40:35 PM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: I don't get it.

We have two "special needs" children. The algorithm for dealing with them is fairly simple:

1. We only eat out at "family" or kid-friendly restaurants (if we want to go some place fancy, we get a babysitter)
2. If our kids start acting up (which they sometimes do), we attempt to calm them down and control the situation
3. If we can't get control in a very short time interval (less than 5 minutes), either myself or my wife will remove the child from the restaurant (outside or to the car)
4. If the child calms down, we return to the restaurant
5. If the child does not calm down, we spend some time in the car, and then eat our (doggie-bagged) meals when we get home

Our kids are "different"; we can't live our lives like a "typical" family. That's just the way it is. I don't see any problem with that.

Whoever said that "this 'everything for everyone' attitude is ruining humanity" hit the nail on the head. I couldn't agree more.


Wait, what? Your kids are probably going to grow up normal and fit right in with the rest of society. What kind of monster parents are you???
2013-03-16 11:35:54 PM
1 votes:

Smarshmallow: PsiChick:  I had undiagnosed Asperger's Syndrome

How do you know this, if it hasn't been diagnosed?


I farted a lot today. I have undiagnosed colon cancer. Give me money.
2013-03-16 11:34:31 PM
1 votes:

Mercury: BRB- going to kiss my birth control pills that allow me to not have children.


Im guessing it isnt the pills that allows this
2013-03-16 11:12:23 PM
1 votes:
BRB- going to kiss my birth control pills that allow me to not have children.
2013-03-16 09:47:21 PM
1 votes:
Autism? Don't they have a vaccine for that?
2013-03-16 09:36:10 PM
1 votes:
Tonight, on a very, very special Fark thread...
2013-03-16 09:17:10 PM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: cptjeff: Mikey1969: I've seen plenty of autistic and Down's Syndrome people out and about, and if you're so farking precious that you can't handle sitting in the same restaurant as them, you really aren't ready for big-people restaurants.

Seriously, if the kid isn't banging you on the head with tableware, you really SHOULD be able to cope. It's not that hard.

Whole Foods had a point about food contamination, but the security guard was completely out of line and deserved to lose his job. Way too many assholes out there who think tat everyone needs to conform to THEIR particular set of standards, and think that they get to dictate who comes into a restaurant or store merely because THEY are in attendance.

In other words, I hate people.

Which is good, because thinking people hate you.

Jesus. That's the best you can come up with? You need to go back to rebuttal 101, you suck at this.


The problem is that I'm tired and haven't eaten yet, and there was too much stupid packed into your post for me to bother with any sort of real response.
2013-03-16 08:41:22 PM
1 votes:
I got a kick out of this thread because my autistic kid is generally well behaved in restaurants and we try to avoid sitting near large boisterous tables of adults because they annoy me.
2013-03-16 08:25:43 PM
1 votes:
My mom knew exactly what to do in these situations. She could settle down any rambunctious kid anywhere. Autistic or otherwise. She always carried around balloons in her purse. If she saw a kid getting jacked up, she'd whip out a balloon, blow it up and hand it to the kid. Saw it done many times and it never failed. Kids are mesmerized by a balloon that shows up out of nowhere. The frazzled moms always thanked my mom too.
2013-03-16 07:37:01 PM
1 votes:
For a group of people that are seemingly antisocial and never leave the basement, there sure are a lot of sensitive biatches on Fark.

Kid's autistic, he might get a little annoying., but at least he's got an excuse.  You don't.  Deal with it, don't whine and cry about how your serenity is being destroyed in public (which is idiotic to expect anyway).
2013-03-16 07:36:49 PM
1 votes:

Neums: I get that the headline says "special needs," but the thrust of the article (I didn't read it all, but scanned) was primarily about autistic people, right? So why use a pic of a kid with Downs?


How many different stock photos do you expect a journalist to keep in their /tard folder?

Being on Fark mine is quite well stocked of course, but let's face it, most of those don't work well in serious conversations (though GW Bush falling off a Segway would have still been a good choice for the pic)
2013-03-16 07:01:53 PM
1 votes:
Why do people with disabled placards on their cars drive like they're mentally disabled as well?
2013-03-16 06:39:10 PM
1 votes:

ThatGuyGreg: /she saves her meltdowns for home


What is that, like a type of hot sandwich or maybe a brown with ice cream on it or something?
2013-03-16 06:35:13 PM
1 votes:

L.D. Ablo: The problem is that every asshole behavior is being turned into some medical condition.  So then you have to "understand" the person while being treated like shiat.

I have a simple strategy for obnoxious children in restaurants.  I go up to the parents with a smile and tell them that the conditions of my parole say that I shouldn't be this close to children.


THIS.  Folks can marry their houseplant but bog forbid if I want to find my wife's ring in the grass with a metal detector.  A pet peeve of mine is all of the local idiots that bought some regentrified WW2 shoebox and park their car on the street.  Ya have that whole driveway and can't save all of the other users of the road the hassle of avoiding your car because you can't take an extra 15 seconds to back out of your driveway.  As my dad used to say, "the fleas come with the dog". I also appreciate the general 'tude of if I want to enjoy the one day I have off with the woman I love and buy her food and I am irked by someone's behavior, that I am some sort of caveperson.  Just get em a tshirt.  If their own behavior doesn't bother them at all, then why would a tshirt that explains their condition to the public?  We all want to know how special lil Suzy pink panties is also, so as not to offend thee.  Any dog under 25 pounds is not a service dog.  Just get a furby and feed them with your smartphone.  Also get the ADA tattooed on your forehead so we don't have to listen to the "You are NOT ALLOWED to ask me that question!" horseshiat in every airport, eatery, busline, sitcom, fruitbats, orangutans, and sitch.
2013-03-16 06:24:54 PM
1 votes:
A complete lack of corporal punishment for an entire generation has resulted in a society that can't say no to anybody.  Kid wants to act out?  Go ahead!  Want to talk in a movie?  Sure!  Cell phone in church?  Why not?

What's missing is that people who are parents now weren't beaten enough as kids, so they think it's normal to give a child whatever he/she wants the second it is demanded.  Notice how the woman in the article describes her son: "He wasn't exceedingly loud, but the oddness of his behavior had clearly caught the attention of an older gentleman at the one other table occupied at that early hour. "

Translation:  He was making enough noise to wake up Bonnie Franklin.  What that woman considers "exceeding" is levels above what normal people consider exceeding.  But she's so wrapped up in herself she doesn't realize it.  She's looking at her son and saying "well, he's not biting people" and thinking he's behaving.  Everyone else is looking at her son and saying "that kid sounds like two elephants farking on top of a dying giraffe."
2013-03-16 06:19:54 PM
1 votes:
Years ago I was at a fast food joint, enjoying my meal with my family when a bus pulled up from the state school (you know, that place where the mentally handicapped are basically locked away, and from the stories that I've heard, for everyone's own good).  I lost my appetite upon seeing them.  The one that caused me to instantly stop eating and leave was seeing a man who could not control his own drool and hand to constantly carry around a rag with him and leave his own tongue hanging out because of the constant drool.  Sickening to see any time, worse in a restaurant.  And, call me an asshole, but there are people who I honestly don't believe should be in public.

As for this mother, I learned in college that 10 adults sitting in a booth in a restaurant having dinner before hitting the bars is loud enough, is messy enough.  Making it two adults and eight children has to be hell on not just those around you, but also for the waitstaff.  Were the two mothers in TFA too good for McDonalds or Burger King?  You know, a place where kids aren't confined to a table and have a playground that they can go run around and play in?  Lady, you take your friend and combined eight kids to a place that has a waitstaff that brings you food, that already means that there are standards to which everyone obeys (tipping, not slapping the hot waitress on the ass as the delivers your drinks, please and thank you), and somehow you're taking these standards that are accepted by everyone, even children and calling them impossible standards.  How is keeping a low tone of voice an impossible standard?  Do you take your son to the library and then biatch at everyone around you when they ask you to be quiet?  If your son can't keep quiet in the movie theater, don't take him.  When I go to the movies I pay my money to see and listen to the movie, not to see the movie and hear a mixture of the movie and your son's noises.  But I'm sure you have your soap box ready to tell me how I need to understand that your son as every right to not just see that movie but also ruin the experience for everyone else by telling me that it's an impossible standard for any child to keep their pie hole shut.  Lady, if it really is impossible for you to do so, please, leave the brats at home.

Look, I have no children.  I'm 34 years old and married.  My wife and I can not have children (she has medical problems preventing it).  But incredibly, our lives are effected by children.  I live in the middle of a long row of apartment complexes.  I have to time my departure perfectly in the mornings because if I don't, I'm going to get caught behind school buses that must stop at each and every apartment building.  Even though the children don't cross the street, I'm not allowed to go around the school bus.  I've had multiple jobs where I had surprise over time because the job had to be done, but my coworker couldn't come in because of their kid (sick, injured, no sitter).  Worse was when I was a security guard.  On weekends there was only the need for one of use to be there at a time, but we couldn't leave until we had our relief.  My relief was a single mother who couldn't get her shiat together.  So I ended up working 20 hour shifts, and when things happened, who's ass was on the line?  Mine because I was the guy on duty and explaining that I worked a 20 hour shift, got four hours to go home, sleep, shower, shave, dress and return to work isn't an explanation, it's an excuse.  Being in public is just as bad.  When I was a kid I was told not to eavesdrop or listen to other conversations.  And in stores, I don't want to listen to your kids scream.  I know they want that toy and you told them no so now they're screaming and crying and making a scene.  Please deal with it.  Don't look at us like we're the bad guys.  We're not, we're victims of noise pollution that you created, and worse yet, we can't get away from it.  I can try going to the store while school's in session, but there's kids in the stores then.  At night, after 10 pm, amazingly, there are kids there as well.  How?  I don't farking know.  It makes me think little of you as a parent when I'm grocery shopping at 10pm on a Wednesday and you're there also with your school age kids.

ending rant...
2013-03-16 05:47:13 PM
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See, this problem can be solved by a little application of common sense.

Autistic children acting out is a problem that can be solved by what I like to call a deep cycle marine battery.
2013-03-16 05:35:16 PM
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PsiChick: The_Sponge: kxs401: Ideally, our public spaces should accommodate everyone.

This "everything is for everyone" attitude is ruining humanity.

This!

As a child--and mind you, I had undiagnosed Asperger's Syndrome, so I didn't even  know what was wrong with me socially--I was expected to behave in public. My mother taught me that, and taught me how to behave when I didn't understand some unspoken rule.

If I had been sitting and quietly talking to myself as a child, and someone had gone 'SHHHH!' across a resturaunt, my mother would personally have told the shusher exactly where to shove it,  because the point of public spaces is that they're public, and because  you don't get special treatment because you're 'normal'.

/tl;dr: If you're such a farking snowflake you can't handle the disabled being slightly weird in public, stay at home.


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Everywhere I go I am ready and you better believe I don't give a crap how people look at me
2013-03-16 05:30:07 PM
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BubbaJones: MeanJean: kxs401

This "everything is for everyone" attitude is ruining humanity.

Yes, lets lock the disabled up in institutions where they get treated like shiat or hide them in the attic instead of accommodating them to spare YOUR delicate feefees.

Sorry that my disabled friend is delaying your journey because it takes a little time for her wheelchair to be strapped into the college transport van. I'll have her personally apologize to you for not being able to farking walk.

The nerve of the disabled, wanting to participate in society. How dare they want to contribute and live their lives?

That is not the problem here. This is:

"even though we had specifically decided to eat out at 6 on a Thursday night in a casual eatery so we wouldn't have to hold any of the kids to impossible standards of behavior. "


IMPOSSIBLE?? I expect him to not kill any one either! There are standards of behavior and if they are impossible, then he needs to be put away somewhere and cared for.

Welcome to Society. That is how it works.

So if I decide to go out to dinner on a Thursday at 6 because that is my Anniversary, I have to allow your child to screech and holler about his burger because you think you have the right to not correct him.


if your going out to somewhere where people take there children for your Anniversary, i feel sorry for your partner
2013-03-16 05:07:24 PM
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miniflea: He wasn't exceedingly loud, but the oddness of his behavior had clearly caught the attention of an older gentleman at the one other table occupied at that early hour.

"Shhhhhhh," he hissed from across the room.

Everyone at the table instantly froze-except, of course, for Jonah. "I'm sorry," I explained, rising from my seat and taking a few steps toward him so I wouldn't have to holler. "My son is autistic ... "

"Oh, sorry," he said.

"He's not trying to disturb you intentionally ... "

"I heard you the first time," he snapped.

My face burned as I returned to my seat, his gratuitous nastiness instantly draining the joy from my evening.


Is it just me, or is that actually a pretty reasonable response from the old guy?


He might have been shushing her.

Based on the first few sentences in the article it appears she talks way too much.
2013-03-16 05:05:14 PM
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PunGent: I was sympathetic until page 2, when she admitted taking an uncontrollably loud autistic into a movie theater.

That's different than a restaurant, you entitled cow.


Our local theatre has started introducing special showings for the "differently abled."  They keep the house lights up a little more and the sound down a little bit, while also allowing kids to move around and make noise.  They've apparently gotten good feedback.

http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/14/2556527/warren-to-screen-movie-for- ki ds.html
2013-03-16 04:56:33 PM
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HairBolus: there is presently hardly any way to tell which newborns will go on to display autistic symptoms


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2013-03-16 04:53:03 PM
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Ennuipoet:  perhaps we could the assholes wear a special hat or something.


An "asshat"?

/like
2013-03-16 04:49:22 PM
1 votes:

MeanJean: kxs401

This "everything is for everyone" attitude is ruining humanity.

Yes, lets lock the disabled up in institutions where they get treated like shiat or hide them in the attic instead of accommodating them to spare YOUR delicate feefees.

Sorry that my disabled friend is delaying your journey because it takes a little time for her wheelchair to be strapped into the college transport van. I'll have her personally apologize to you for not being able to farking walk.

The nerve of the disabled, wanting to participate in society. How dare they want to contribute and live their lives?


Way to miss the point.  No one is complaining that they had to move so that a wheelchair could fit around a table, or had to be strapped down before the bus moves.  As a disabled person (wheelchair- 15 years and counting) I try my best not to inconvenience other people, like any normal member of a civilized society.  The reality is, being disabled, there are certain things you aren't ABLE to do.  It sucks balls, but you adapt, and find alternatives.  I've lived my life fine for 15+ years never climbing a step.  Ramps and elevators help, but if they aren't available, I go somewhere else.  If someone can't behave in an appropriate manner, go somewhere else.  Life isn't fair, deal with it.  I do.

/Your friend is not relevant to this situation
//I'm sure she appreciates you talking about her though
///how long till these little farkers are taking my parking space?
2013-03-16 04:41:48 PM
1 votes:
This autism spectrum gets wider and wider every day.
2013-03-16 04:41:38 PM
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ThatGuyGreg: Oh good, this thread again.

I still get a kick not my not autistic but still developmentally disabled 3 year old daughter behaves 1000x better than "normal" kids twice her age when we're out in public.

/she saves her meltdowns for home


Heh, our 2.5 year old has her daycare person convinced she is perfect.  She wonders why we sometimes ask, "how did she behave today?"  It's because she saves it all up for home!  Finally, she acted out at daycare, and she said, "I think I understand why you ask the things you do, now."

In the end, it is because they know their parents and it is "safe" to let it loose.
2013-03-16 04:24:28 PM
1 votes:
So if my toddler is acting out at a restaraunt, does everyone have to be tolerant?
2013-03-16 04:23:16 PM
1 votes:

miniflea: Is it just me, or is that actually a pretty reasonable response from the old guy?


Yeah, angrily cutting off an embarrassed and apologetic mother mid-sentence is a perfectly reasonable response to having been in the same room as a developmentally challenged child who, in the course of having a good time, was a little louder than you would have preferred.
2013-03-16 04:21:46 PM
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MeanJean: kxs401

This "everything is for everyone" attitude is ruining humanity.

Yes, lets lock the disabled up in institutions where they get treated like shiat or hide them in the attic instead of accommodating them to spare YOUR delicate feefees.

Sorry that my disabled friend is delaying your journey because it takes a little time for her wheelchair to be strapped into the college transport van. I'll have her personally apologize to you for not being able to farking walk.

The nerve of the disabled, wanting to participate in society. How dare they want to contribute and live their lives?


Hey now, we put them in basements, chained to the oil tank where it's a little warmer. Plus you can't hear them shuffling around like you can in an attic.

Also, participating isn't disrupting. I got squats calling in 26 minutes.
2013-03-16 04:20:14 PM
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These here so-called autistics, they collect nice fat government checks and then sit on their behinds, and what does the working man get? More taxes. Let's take back our country!

/yes that's sarcasm
2013-03-16 04:18:48 PM
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tallguywithglasseson: Cup_O_Jo: Lumping mental retardation in with physical handicapped people is demeaning.

To who?


To physically handicapped. It takes us back to the dark ages when polio patients,mentally retarded,and the like were locked away in the mental hospital which is 3rd complete different thing.
2013-03-16 04:17:05 PM
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: You don't get a free pass to disturb others in public places just because you have a disability.


A wild guess. You're collecting SS and Medicare, and you're infuriated about soshulizm?
2013-03-16 04:14:45 PM
1 votes:
#1. Autism from what I have learned in the last years is not a DISABILITY. I am disabled. I have MS.
Please don't compare me to the Mentally "disabled". I would appreciate it. Lumping mental retardation in with physical handicapped people is demeaning.
#2. I don't get a free pass to do whatever I want. If I forget my cane and fall onto someone's wedding cake---"oh sorry" is not going to work. Instead I go places prepared to handle my condition whatever it is that day.
#3. All people mentioned had a caretaker. Maybe the Mom should have been sitting closer to her son-paying more attention to him. Maybe the sister should have her brother on a leash. And maybe the writer should understand I don't want your teenage sons grubby hands all in my freaking salad bar.
This article to me is one of those "it takes a village to raise a child and my child (ect) is autisitic so you should learn how to deal with it. WHEN in fact people should be learning how to handle it themselves, Society is nerfed enough. Yes, we understand your child has special needs however, you need to understand YOU are going to have to do extra work to have them in society.
2013-03-16 04:08:50 PM
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L.D. Ablo: The problem is that every asshole behavior is being turned into some medical condition.  So then you have to "understand" the person while being treated like shiat.

I have a simple strategy for obnoxious children in restaurants.  I go up to the parents with a smile and tell them that the conditions of my parole say that I shouldn't be this close to children.


Translated. "I have no idea how psychology works and get outraged when people try to correct me. Also I'm just as big of an asshole as think others are."
2013-03-16 12:54:58 PM
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kxs401: Ideally, our public spaces should accommodate everyone.

This "everything is for everyone" attitude is ruining humanity.


This!
2013-03-16 12:54:09 PM
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Ideally, our public spaces should accommodate everyone.

This "everything is for everyone" attitude is ruining humanity.
 
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