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(NPR)   Gun-ban proponent Senator Leahy (D-VT) admits that assault rifles may be needed by the general public in the event of zombie apocalypse   (npr.org) divider line 460
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2013-03-18 12:40:28 PM

vygramul: A moment ago, they were Red Herrings.


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2013-03-18 01:00:28 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: vygramul: A moment ago, they were Red Herrings.

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Let's try this: is the second amendment a limitation on federal authority?
 
2013-03-18 03:09:24 PM

vygramul: demaL-demaL-yeH: vygramul: A moment ago, they were Red Herrings.

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Let's try this: is the second amendment a limitation on federal authority?


The enumerated Militia Powers of Congress? No, not really: "A well regulated Militia" is still subject to federal regulation.
 
2013-03-18 03:46:07 PM

Gosling: Farker Soze: Is this similar to the argument that alternates between "a 10 round magazine would prevent someone from hitting more than one or two people" in one case and then suddenly "If you can't fight off multiple home invaders with more than 10 shots you don't deserve to live. Aim better gun-nut" in the next?

Those statements do not contradict each other. The aim of 10-round magazines is to make a guy firing wildly in a mass shooting stop and reload earlier, giving someone an earlier opening to stop him with fewer dead. In a home-invasion scenario (a scenario that in and of itself is far less likely than getting shot by someone you already know, a fact conveniently ignored by the pro-gun crowd), you're more liable to take the extra second to aim and the reload period probably isn't going to factor into anything. If you need more than 10 shots in that situation, odds are you're so vastly outnumbered and outgunned that you're farked no matter what you do.


IF what you say is true, then why do every one of these laws have exemptions for law enforcement?  If High Capacity and Assault Weapons are really only legitimate tools for mass murder, then we don't need to exempt cops from them.  Any argument you can make that a cop may need one would also be a good reason a citizen might want one.
 
2013-03-18 05:10:15 PM

manimal2878: IF what you say is true, then why do every one of these laws have exemptions for law enforcement?  If High Capacity and Assault Weapons are really only legitimate tools for mass murder, then we don't need to exempt cops from them.  Any argument you can make that a cop may need one would also be a good reason a citizen mass murderer might want one.

 
2013-03-18 05:31:04 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: vygramul: demaL-demaL-yeH: vygramul: A moment ago, they were Red Herrings.

[implied_facepalm.jpg]

Let's try this: is the second amendment a limitation on federal authority?

The enumerated Militia Powers of Congress? No, not really: "A well regulated Militia" is still subject to federal regulation.


So if the second amendment is not a limitation on federal authority, how does it affect your Hessians?
 
2013-03-18 07:36:42 PM

Ablejack: manimal2878: IF what you say is true, then why do every one of these laws have exemptions for law enforcement?  If High Capacity and Assault Weapons are really only legitimate tools for mass murder, then we don't need to exempt cops from them.  Any argument you can make that a cop may need one would also be a good reason a citizen mass murderer might want one.


hurr durr, so cops are mass murderers?
 
2013-03-18 11:29:38 PM

vygramul: demaL-demaL-yeH: vygramul: demaL-demaL-yeH: vygramul: A moment ago, they were Red Herrings.

[implied_facepalm.jpg]

Let's try this: is the second amendment a limitation on federal authority?

The enumerated Militia Powers of Congress? No, not really: "A well regulated Militia" is still subject to federal regulation.

So if the second amendment is not a limitation on federal authority, how does it affect your Hessians?


My Hessians? I am not George III.
Nor do I intend to disarm the State militias.
 
2013-03-19 08:00:04 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: vygramul: demaL-demaL-yeH: vygramul: demaL-demaL-yeH: vygramul: A moment ago, they were Red Herrings.

[implied_facepalm.jpg]

Let's try this: is the second amendment a limitation on federal authority?

The enumerated Militia Powers of Congress? No, not really: "A well regulated Militia" is still subject to federal regulation.

So if the second amendment is not a limitation on federal authority, how does it affect your Hessians?

My Hessians? I am not George III.
Nor do I intend to disarm the State militias.


You're not answering the question you know was asked. If the second amendment does not limit federal power, then how can it affect your Hessian scenario?
 
2013-03-19 09:54:10 AM
You see where this is going, of course.
 
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