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(The Sun)   R.I.P. and sleep tight Lance Corporal James Ashworth, for you are now in the canyon of heroes   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 8
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2013-03-16 12:36:00 PM
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DrPainMD: People who participate in wars of aggression are not heroes. If you travel half-way around the world to fight people who are standing in their own front yards trying to defend their homes and their families, you're just a Nazi in a different uniform. Rot in hell, Ashworth.


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2013-03-16 12:33:11 PM
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"We are devastated by the loss of our son, brother, uncle and boyfriend."

I knew the inbreeding was bad over there, but damn.

DrPainMD: People who participate in wars of aggression are not heroes. If you travel half-way around the world to fight people who are standing in their own front yards trying to defend their homes and their families, you're just a Nazi in a different uniform. Rot in hell, Ashworth.


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Points deducted for being in so quick with it.
2013-03-16 12:26:19 PM
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Unfortunately they misspelled "valor" on the medal, and will have to re-forge it.

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2013-03-16 07:12:53 PM
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randomjsa: DrPainMD: People who participate in wars of aggression are not heroes. If you travel half-way around the world to fight people who are standing in their own front yards trying to defend their homes and their families, you're just a Nazi in a different uniform. Rot in hell, Ashworth.

Your shoulders and back would probably hurt a lot less if you pulled your head out of your arse.

deadsanta: They aided and hid those people based on thousand years-old traditions of guest-rights and hospitality, which if we'd taken half a minute to understand, we could have circumvented through diplomacy, bribery and our own outreach. But we didn't, we just told the innkeeper he and his family were evil and we'd be killing them all now.

The same goes for you. Your attempt to follow up and sound intellectual in another post is noted and by the way all those lovely websites that told you what you wanted to hear might just have had an agenda behind it so the idea that you're holding them up as some unassailable fortress of unbiased truth is really quite amusing. I'm guessing that all the contradictory information out there that flies in the fact of some the things you believe must all be wrong or some kind of grand conspiracy.

The primary base of operate for Al Queda was Afghanistan. Irregardless


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2013-03-16 01:29:19 PM
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Silverstaff: DrPainMD: People who participate in wars of aggression are not heroes. If you travel half-way around the world to fight people who are standing in their own front yards trying to defend their homes and their families, you're just a Nazi in a different uniform. Rot in hell, Ashworth.

War of aggression?

Nice try.  Afghanistan was always a defensive war, retalliation for the attack on the United States on 9/11/01.  UK involvement is pursuant to the invocation of the North Atlantic Treaty (i.e. the Taliban regime governing Afghanistan sanctioned an attack on the US, was therefore legally an attack on every NATO power, including the UK).

They started this one, so it isn't a war of aggression.


That's just the causus belli we used to justify the invasion. The Taliban were just one political party in the region, the vast majority of Afghanistan was and is nominally ungoverned except by local law and custom, so how do we invade an entire country, displace millions, kill thousands of civilians? We do it because Rumsfield, Bush and Chaney want to clear the decks of any future threat, get a nice war going to boost the party status, and use 9/11 cynically as a pretext to invade not just Afghanistan, who really had nothing to do with 9/11, but Iraq, who were avowed enemies of Al-Queda. That's just historical fact now, with documentary evidence to support it, thanks to FOA findings by American journalists and wikileaks media blasts. It's not even technically a war, since we declared them all terrorists and not legitimate soldiers, sidestepping all sorts of treaties and internal checks on war-operations. Convenient, that.

It's all absurd, but I don't think it has any bearing on whether an individual soldier should receive a medal of valor, since that's just predicated on individual acts of bravery, not foreign policy considerations. Still, I wish first-responders, doctors and educators got equally grand medals for achievement and bravery, the hawkish bent of half the U.S. (And I assume the UK has it's own variant)  is tiresome to put up with.
2013-03-16 12:06:49 PM
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What's an Ashworth?


/waits
2013-03-16 12:00:51 PM
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I thought the Canyon of Heroes was the term used when people are given parades up Broadway from the Battery.
2013-03-16 06:51:38 AM
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People who participate in wars of aggression are not heroes. If you travel half-way around the world to fight people who are standing in their own front yards trying to defend their homes and their families, you're just a Nazi in a different uniform. Rot in hell, Ashworth.
 
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