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(Mother Nature Network)   Not content with forcing restaurants to display the number of calories in its meals, new study suggests Americans would also benefit from a graphic of a traffic light to indicate how healthy each plate is   (mnn.com) divider line 33
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2013-03-16 11:27:29 AM
5 votes:
Huh. There must be some hidden language in the article talking about the government passing new regulations, similar to those hidden messages on road signs that are designed to help the UN invade America. To my eyes, this article was talking about some scientists suggesting that since caloric numbers are already required on labels, it might be a good idea to also include some sort of summarizing graphic that summarizes the information at a glance.  Like lot of labels already do, actually. It terrifies me that there are sinister entities communicating secretly to each other through seemingly innocuous web articles. Guess it's time to buy another gun.
2013-03-16 08:39:55 AM
5 votes:
Hey, weren't all these regulations and laws and taxes just WONDERFUL when they were only targeting the nasty old smokers?

You farkers asked for it. Enjoy!
2013-03-16 11:36:23 AM
3 votes:
Good lord.  Requiring calorie information is fine.  I look at it when I'm at restaurants, sometimes I'm surprised by the amount of calories in a dish and it occasionally affects my order.

This is just insulting, though.  There's a big difference between being expected to provide consumers with information and providing them with a cartoonish value judgment.
2013-03-16 12:21:08 PM
2 votes:
I find it hard to believe that anybody is confused by a simple listing of the number of calories.  it would seem to provide more useful info than a graphical traffic light.
2013-03-16 11:57:17 AM
2 votes:
And most of these juke jive dumbass busybodies could really benefit from about fifty cracks across the bare ass with a stiff leather belt.

I am sick to death of these self--appointed asshats who want to dictate what kind of light bulbs I may use in my home, hot much soda pop I may have in my cup, what kind of toilet I may install in my bathroom, what kind of appliances I may have in my kitchen, how big a car I may drive, how much salt I may put on my burger, ad infinitum ad nauseam.

I wish they would all go away and shut up, or at least get a life.
2013-03-16 11:50:53 AM
2 votes:

lesliessexxy: Have we as Americans really become so .... I can't even think of the word(s) to describe it ... stupid? that we have to color code EVERYTHING?

If it has 4 patties, 3 layers of cheese, and 40,000 fries, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOOD FOR YOU.


Not stupid, just busybody do-gooders that treat everyone else as children, who would do what they're told if you just tell them it's a "no-no" food.
2013-03-16 11:48:25 AM
2 votes:
Good intentions, but I predict this food warning system is going to be precisely as effective as this has been in preventing smoking:

upload.wikimedia.org

Let's face it, we're human beings and we want to do things we like and who gives a crap about the consequences?  Drink, smoke, eat, gamble, fark around, YOLO, amirite?  It's human nature, and all the finger-wagging in the world isn't going to fix it.
2013-03-16 11:37:59 AM
2 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: Hey, weren't all these regulations and laws and taxes just WONDERFUL when they were only targeting the nasty old smokers?

You farkers asked for it. Enjoy!


I will. Thank you. 

I don't mind indulging every now and then, but if I glance at the menu and notice 'holy shiat...this quesadilla that I expected to have 800 calories actually somehow has 1700...wtf, did they infuse it with lard or something?', I will likely back off. And my waistline will thank me later.

And a picture would make that process even quicker.
2013-03-16 11:37:35 AM
2 votes:
I have no problem with this. Obesity is an issue, if this helps with that what's the big deal? You're still free to eat that triple burger with eight slices of bacon, six types of cheese and a plate full of gravy fries if you wish.
2013-03-16 11:36:44 AM
2 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: Hey, weren't all these regulations and laws and taxes just WONDERFUL when they were only targeting the nasty old smokers?

You farkers asked for it. Enjoy!


how many people die from second hand eating?

I fully support your right to smoke on private property but your right to do so on public property ends where someone else's right to not die from second hand smoke begins
The only regulation on private businesses should be a requirement to post a big sign on the front door to let customers know that the business allows people to smoke inside it  so customers can make an informed choice
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2013-03-16 11:30:43 AM
2 votes:
Considering how many Farkers whine about missing 'NSFW" tags because "not safe for work" is too complicated for them, I can understand the reasoning for this idea.
2013-03-16 11:26:30 AM
2 votes:
How about putting a scale of 1 to 4 Hoverounds next to each menu item, like they do with chili peppers for spicy dishes?
2013-03-16 01:16:40 PM
1 votes:
I'm in Germany right now for work. You know what they don't have everywhere? Low fat this. Low fat that. You get 3.5% or 1.5% milk. The cheese and ice cream have consistency of fresh butter but taste amazing. And bacon and eggs and pretty much anything pork is amazing.

And I have yet to see one massive German yet. (On the scale of a walmart scooter needed). Not a single one. Perhaps it's because they eat small portions. As in a roll, some 2 eggs and a few pieces of bacon. A denny's grand slam could feed 4 over here.

 And they farking bike/walk EVERYWHERE local. Need to go a mile to dinner? Lets walk. Commute to work on a bike.
2013-03-16 01:14:24 PM
1 votes:
Nevermind, misread the headline. The traffic light is stupid. Requiring calorie counts isn't stupid.
2013-03-16 12:46:40 PM
1 votes:
I was much happier when I didn't know how many calories were in a slice of pizza at Wegman's.
2013-03-16 12:31:09 PM
1 votes:

iheartscotch: I'm glad I live in a red state! I can have all of the guns, cheeseburgers, sugary drinks, steaks, peanuts, strippers and prime rib I want.

/ dietary restrictions for some; steak and exercise for others


Ehhh... Enjoy it while it lasts. Population growth is highest in them due to the economy. Only a matter of time before the failed staters move in and take over.
2013-03-16 12:20:55 PM
1 votes:
If you hate the damn government telling you not to smoke in other people's faces, or coming in with their dumb environmental regulations, you are welcome to go somewhere like China where people can not breathe the air or drink the water. The Yangtze River is now a cesspool. The pollution is so bad it regularly shuts down the Beijing airport because no one can see. "Hazardous" particulate pollution levels are 25 ppm, Los Angeles is like 15, it gets up to 1,000 in Beijing. Then they need to do drastic things like tell people they can only drive every other day. To prevent that, I'll accept some environmental regulations.

Ironically, China is a communist dictatorship, that allows unfettered pollution. America is a democracy that limits certain things for the greater good and to prevent the tragedy of the commons -- "Well, I should be allowed to use whatever light bulbs I want -- but we collectively should stop using so much energy and enriching terrorists in the middle east."

No one wants to be told what to do. But the costs of allowing 320 million idiots to do whatever they want (smoke in public, drive drunk, dump chemicals in the groundwater, use gas like it's water, eat like pigs then get treated for obesity/heart attacks on the public dime, etc.) are just too high.
2013-03-16 12:12:44 PM
1 votes:

olddinosaur: And most of these juke jive dumbass busybodies could really benefit from about fifty cracks across the bare ass with a stiff leather belt.

I am sick to death of these self--appointed asshats who want to dictate what kind of light bulbs I may use in my home, hot much soda pop I may have in my cup, what kind of toilet I may install in my bathroom, what kind of appliances I may have in my kitchen, how big a car I may drive, how much salt I may put on my burger, ad infinitum ad nauseam.

I wish they would all go away and shut up, or at least get a life.



They are the new guardians of morality for our new era.  The age of the fire-and-brimstone preacher is passing away, and this new breed of moralizing Pharisees is rising to take their place.  Their principles and rules are different than the old ones, but the desire to see everyone be a "good" person and do what is "right" is just as strong as ever.
2013-03-16 12:05:57 PM
1 votes:
Damn, farked that up.
2013-03-16 12:05:57 PM
1 votes:
Oh for crissakes! Stop with the dumbing down of society already! Will there be an explaination of the meaning of each light?
Those burgers look good and since I have a healthy diet and lifestyle I can enjoy them once in awhile.
2013-03-16 12:05:52 PM
1 votes:
Food that is sold is designed to make a profit not to be nutritious. That means selling the cheapest ingredients for the maximum price - and pumping as much salt, sugar, flavours and msg in them as possible to make them tasty. If you want food that is actually good for you, then you have to prepare it yourself.
2013-03-16 12:00:25 PM
1 votes:
Totally fine with calorie counts on chain restaurant menus. That's just good information.
2013-03-16 11:56:17 AM
1 votes:
I'm glad I live in a red state! I can have all of the guns, cheeseburgers, sugary drinks, steaks, peanuts, strippers and prime rib I want.

/ dietary restrictions for some; steak and exercise for others
2013-03-16 11:52:12 AM
1 votes:

insano: You have to read between the lines like subby. He knows what this article is really saying; It's a call to arms! See, first there are graphics summarizing the nutritional content of foods, next Obummer is telling you what you can and can't eat, next they're stealing your babies in the middle of the night to be raised in food awareness indoctrination camps where they eat only tofu and bulger wheat and recite nutritional labels.

You are right to purchase a firearm.


The reason us "loonies" on the right get upset over this type of thing is that we're not idiots and we can see what it will eventually become.  You're incredibly ignorant if you don't understand what the "affordable care act" will allow the government to do and what it implies.  It will eventually be the left's argument that the ironically named "affordable care act" gives them license to tell you what you can eat, how much you must exercise, if you're allowed to participate in "extreme" sports, if you're allowed toride a motorcycle and if so, how much you're allowed to drive it.  It will never end.  You're naive if you don't see it coming.
Furthermore, if there is a Government entity that runs efficiently I dont know of it.  You put the same people in charge of the DMV in charge of your health.  By the time you're elderly you will be filling out a 27B-stroke-6 if you want to take an aspirin.
2013-03-16 11:51:06 AM
1 votes:
The thing about free markets is that they operate best with complete information.  That's microeconomics 101.  I fail to see why people biatch about calorie counts in food.

That said, the whole red/green light etc. thing is farking stupid.
2013-03-16 11:48:53 AM
1 votes:

Alphax: You know, that's not a bad idea.

I'm guessing that Wendy's Baconator will trigger a red light, but I'll have one on occasion anyway.




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I'd go to the red light food district to get face deep in her baconator anytime.
2013-03-16 11:43:56 AM
1 votes:
I can dig this idea. It doesn't seem too pushy yet it's letting you know exactly what you are getting into.
2013-03-16 11:43:24 AM
1 votes:
I'm OK with the law requiring nutritional content, although that is counter to my Libertarian roots. It helps me make the right eating decisions when eating out, therefore I will eat out a LOT more rather than buy and grow my own food. Restaurants win.

But that's enough information, no traffic signals and so forth!
2013-03-16 11:41:52 AM
1 votes:
All this will do is encourage gaming of the ingredients to fit whatever bullshiat metric determines what a 'yellow' light would be.  It will mean more salt or sugar et al in things that don't need it.
2013-03-16 11:40:56 AM
1 votes:

lesliessexxy: Have we as Americans really become so .... I can't even think of the word(s) to describe it ... stupid? that we have to color code EVERYTHING?
If it has 4 patties, 3 layers of cheese, and 40,000 fries, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOOD FOR YOU.


What a lot of people don't understand is just how bad for you seemingly typical restaurant meals are.

After California started requiring calorie counts on menus, I was surprised to see Friday's Jack Daniels burgers...a typical 1 patty burger with a sweet Jack Daniels "barbecue-style" sauce...come in at 1500 calories. With fries and a couple of refills of coke, you're going to be closer to 2500 calories than 2000. That's more calories than most Farkers need in a day. I realized they weren't great for you, what I didn't realize was just how bad they were for you.
2013-03-16 11:28:51 AM
1 votes:

Majick Thise: It would certainly save the guesswork in finding the worst one


FirstNationalBastard: Hey, weren't all these regulations and laws and taxes just WONDERFUL when they were only targeting the nasty old smokers?

You farkers asked for it. Enjoy!

Second hand frenchfry grease is a killer... KILLER I say!


I love the secondhand smoke argument.  Thank God we also banned automotive and industrial pollutants, as well as potentially carcinogenic food preservatives and insecticides.  Now no one will ever get cancer from environmental toxins.
2013-03-16 11:24:49 AM
1 votes:
Have we as Americans really become so .... I can't even think of the word(s) to describe it ... stupid? that we have to color code EVERYTHING?

If it has 4 patties, 3 layers of cheese, and 40,000 fries, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOOD FOR YOU.
2013-03-16 08:43:29 AM
1 votes:
You know, that's not a bad idea.

I'm guessing that Wendy's Baconator will trigger a red light, but I'll have one on occasion anyway.
 
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