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(Mother Nature Network)   Not content with forcing restaurants to display the number of calories in its meals, new study suggests Americans would also benefit from a graphic of a traffic light to indicate how healthy each plate is   (mnn.com) divider line 124
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2013-03-16 02:22:09 PM

RickN99: Dedmon: ExpressPork: insano: You have to read between the lines like subby. He knows what this article is really saying; It's a call to arms! See, first there are graphics summarizing the nutritional content of foods, next Obummer is telling you what you can and can't eat, next they're stealing your babies in the middle of the night to be raised in food awareness indoctrination camps where they eat only tofu and bulger wheat and recite nutritional labels.

You are right to purchase a firearm.

The reason us "loonies" on the right get upset over this type of thing is that we're not idiots and we can see what it will eventually become.  You're incredibly ignorant if you don't understand what the "affordable care act" will allow the government to do and what it implies.  It will eventually be the left's argument that the ironically named "affordable care act" gives them license to tell you what you can eat, how much you must exercise, if you're allowed to participate in "extreme" sports, if you're allowed toride a motorcycle and if so, how much you're allowed to drive it.  It will never end.  You're naive if you don't see it coming.
Furthermore, if there is a Government entity that runs efficiently I dont know of it.  You put the same people in charge of the DMV in charge of your health.  By the time you're elderly you will be filling out a 27B-stroke-6 if you want to take an aspirin.

The DMV in my area is underfunded due to the right-wingers running the place, yet I still managed to renew my license, plates, and registration all at the same desk, after a 10 minute wait, during the 'busy' part of the mourning.

That's uh, one?

Anyway, you loonies on the right are paranoid pussies, in general, constantly screaming chicken-littles.  It makes you look loony when you say that a restructuring of the way employers provide health insurance, utilizing private insurance companies, is going to invariably lead to a ban on skydiving.

Oh, who was in control of my health care pre 'obamac ...

You really believe that under Obamacare the insurance companies will be in 100% control of your healthcare?  No government requirements that the insurance companies must follow, no new rules for a person to adhere to, no government fees/taxes -- just your insurance company, making all the decisions about what your coverage must consist of, who must be covered, etc?


Let me guess, you think that business exists to do things that are in the customer's best interest due to a profit motive and that government exists to do things that are in government's best interest because there is no profit.

I am also going to assume that you have never had a real job and have had a business transaction with anyone other than the imaginary voices in your head,
 
2013-03-16 02:25:06 PM
Is the government perfect? No.

Will a for-profit corporation large enough and as powerful as the government be better or worse? (Hint: think of Bank of America or Comcast, and how terrible their customer service is, and how they screw people over, and how they're so big that one side of the business can't access your account because it's in some other department, and multiply that by 1,000.) So the answer is: much, much worse.
 
2013-03-16 02:33:17 PM

farkdd: Is the government perfect? No.

Will a for-profit corporation large enough and as powerful as the government be better or worse? (Hint: think of Bank of America or Comcast, and how terrible their customer service is, and how they screw people over, and how they're so big that one side of the business can't access your account because it's in some other department, and multiply that by 1,000.) So the answer is: much, much worse.



Are those the only two possible options?  Either a government that wipes your butt OR lawless chaos?  Are there no possible alternatives other than those two extremes?
 
2013-03-16 02:43:04 PM

GilRuiz1: farkdd: Is the government perfect? No.

Will a for-profit corporation large enough and as powerful as the government be better or worse? (Hint: think of Bank of America or Comcast, and how terrible their customer service is, and how they screw people over, and how they're so big that one side of the business can't access your account because it's in some other department, and multiply that by 1,000.) So the answer is: much, much worse.


Are those the only two possible options?  Either a government that wipes your butt OR lawless chaos?  Are there no possible alternatives other than those two extremes?


If you leave it up to tribal and territorial monkeys, then yes.
 
2013-03-16 02:44:57 PM

GilRuiz1: farkdd: Is the government perfect? No.

Will a for-profit corporation large enough and as powerful as the government be better or worse? (Hint: think of Bank of America or Comcast, and how terrible their customer service is, and how they screw people over, and how they're so big that one side of the business can't access your account because it's in some other department, and multiply that by 1,000.) So the answer is: much, much worse.


Are those the only two possible options?  Either a government that wipes your butt OR lawless chaos?  Are there no possible alternatives other than those two extremes?


No, we could have the system we have now, which is what lots of people in this thread are complaining about. =)
 
2013-03-16 02:51:59 PM

GilRuiz1: farkdd: Is the government perfect? No.

Will a for-profit corporation large enough and as powerful as the government be better or worse? (Hint: think of Bank of America or Comcast, and how terrible their customer service is, and how they screw people over, and how they're so big that one side of the business can't access your account because it's in some other department, and multiply that by 1,000.) So the answer is: much, much worse.


Are those the only two possible options?  Either a government that wipes your butt OR lawless chaos?  Are there no possible alternatives other than those two extremes?


Well, if you look back on the history of American business, you'd find that the reason government started wiping people's butts is that the people were no longer willing to tolerate the lawless chaos and demanded something be done about it.

And if you're wondering why it has to go to the extent that it does to wipe people's butts, well, congratulations to you that you don't need it. Now, pop in to your closest Wal-Mart and look around a little at the people who are there, and think about how many of those people shouldn't have ever been let out alone in public, and then maybe you'll realize how we got to where we are.
 
2013-03-16 03:04:57 PM

darkscout: I'm in Germany right now for work. You know what they don't have everywhere? Low fat this. Low fat that. You get 3.5% or 1.5% milk. The cheese and ice cream have consistency of fresh butter but taste amazing. And bacon and eggs and pretty much anything pork is amazing.

And I have yet to see one massive German yet. (On the scale of a walmart scooter needed). Not a single one. Perhaps it's because they eat small portions. As in a roll, some 2 eggs and a few pieces of bacon. A denny's grand slam could feed 4 over here.

 And they farking bike/walk EVERYWHERE local. Need to go a mile to dinner? Lets walk. Commute to work on a bike.


Or maybe the food costs a lot more there?
 
2013-03-16 03:23:42 PM

Ivo Shandor: How about putting a scale of 1 to 4 Hoverounds next to each menu item, like they do with chili peppers for spicy dishes?


Upvoted by three greasy sweaty hoverrounds.
 
2013-03-16 03:27:16 PM

The universe is laughing behind your back: And if you're wondering why it has to go to the extent that it does to wipe people's butts, well, congratulations to you that you don't need it. Now, pop in to your closest Wal-Mart and look around a little at the people who are there, and think about how many of those people shouldn't have ever been let out alone in public, and then maybe you'll realize how we got to where we are.


That's right. It's easy to say "But *I* make good choices, I don't want the government making them for me!" But a whole lot of people make really bad choices, choices that are dangerous for others, or choices we all must end up paying for (at least if we don't want to step over people literally dying in emergency room parking lots).*

So in the perfect world, if everyone had half a brain, we wouldn't need the government to step in with these annoying rules. But in this world, where Paris Hilton is famous and people eat at a place called Heart Attack Grill  after the spokesman for the restaurant died of a heart attack, we need some guidelines to help herd the sheep a little bit.


* It's worth noting that most of these drugged-out, overweight, uneducated, smoking, drunk-driving, texting-while-driving, teen single moms will also claim that they make good choices and don't want the government making choices for them. That's part of the deal with making poor choices, it also often comes with an inability to differentiate between good choices and bad ones.
 
2013-03-16 03:30:56 PM

"A downside to the Affordable Care Act legislation as currently proposed is that it just provides a number," she said. "If we've learned anything about consumers, it's that people often operate under time constraints and are very convenience oriented. Not every restaurant diner has time to read, or even wants to read, the number of calories listed for each menu item.


There's one of the things Nancy Pelosi was talking about when she said we had to pass the bill in order to find out what was in it. The ACA thinks the federal government ought to be in charge of restaurant menus now. And it's STILL not enough.We've gone beyond the nanny state, now we've got the nagging biatch mother-in-law state, no doubt soon to transition to the do-whatever-we-say-and-put-a-smile-on-your-face-or-else state.

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2013-03-16 03:32:49 PM

farkdd: help herd the sheep a little bit


A very interesting phrase to have used.
 
2013-03-16 03:36:03 PM
Uhm, doesn't food come color coded in general? Meat is red, green stuff is green. This will be as effective as common sense.
 
2013-03-16 04:05:10 PM

anarchy_x: Or maybe the food costs a lot more there?


Not sure where this rumor started but everywhere I visited it's flat out not true. I mean we don't have any cheap junk food but the real food doesn't cost any more. Especially if you shop local.

And stuff like candy...  A candy bar in the US $1. A candy bar in Germany $1. But the German one is loads better. (Not in the calorie department either).

Then there is 'fast food'.  For $1 a scoop I can get ice cream in the super market that is in a class above anything you can buy in the US. Even old Breyers. They have a bratwurst stand outside almost every 'big box' store (most are about 1/2 the size of most Home Depots). For $2.50 I can get a 12" bratwurst with curry and a piece of bread (currywurst).

And it's nowhere close when it comes to 'work place' food. The place I work has food that rivals 3-4 star restaurants in the US. Prepared right in front of you. Chicken with red/green bell pepper sauce over rice. AMAZING stuff. $5. For $5 in my cafeteria at work in the US You can may be get a reheated burger that was 'pre cooked' and some french fries.

And Sweden is nuts they LOVE their bulk candy. Every single supermarket I went into had bulk candy for $.50/lb.

And obviously the Coke does taste different/better it's it's all sugar and not HFCS. (The germans didn't believe us so we got dixie cups and all of the Americans took blind a blind test).
 
2013-03-16 04:11:13 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Hey, weren't all these regulations and laws and taxes just WONDERFUL when they were only targeting the nasty old smokers?

You farkers asked for it. Enjoy!


This,
 
2013-03-16 04:42:52 PM

ExpressPork: insano: You have to read between the lines like subby. He knows what this article is really saying; It's a call to arms! See, first there are graphics summarizing the nutritional content of foods, next Obummer is telling you what you can and can't eat, next they're stealing your babies in the middle of the night to be raised in food awareness indoctrination camps where they eat only tofu and bulger wheat and recite nutritional labels.

You are right to purchase a firearm.

The reason us "loonies" on the right get upset over this type of thing is that we're not idiots and we can see what it will eventually become.  You're incredibly ignorant if you don't understand what the "affordable care act" will allow the government to do and what it implies.  It will eventually be the left's argument that the ironically named "affordable care act" gives them license to tell you what you can eat, how much you must exercise, if you're allowed to participate in "extreme" sports, if you're allowed toride a motorcycle and if so, how much you're allowed to drive it.  It will never end.  You're naive if you don't see it coming.
Furthermore, if there is a Government entity that runs efficiently I dont know of it.  You put the same people in charge of the DMV in charge of your health.  By the time you're elderly you will be filling out a 27B-stroke-6 if you want to take an aspirin.


You never actually  read the ACA, did you?
 
2013-03-16 05:26:03 PM
That is retarded because what is healthy for one may not be healthy for another.

Example: canned beans. High in sodium, but otherwise really healthy. If a person doesn't have hypertension or anything like that, they are fine. If said person does have hypertension, they are very bad.

Or, a big ass meal might have 2000 calories, but if its the only thing you eat that day, it is fine.
 
2013-03-16 05:48:03 PM
Just got back from dinner at the hotel restaurant. (Business hotel, over the top restaurant).

A steak, potatoes, salad and 3 scoops of ice cream with drinks was $40. About what I'd pay in the same type of restaurant here. (Actually almost exactly what I paid when I was in Chicago for a similar meal.)

They also have no concept of 'margarine'. There is butter. That's it. No soybean oil that is partially hydrogenated nothing else. You can get salted butter, unsalted butter, whipped, but it's all butter.
 
2013-03-16 05:56:30 PM
That's so wrong.

What you need is one of these:
 
2013-03-16 05:58:29 PM
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2013-03-16 06:00:56 PM

Rik01: FirstNationalBastard is my new idol.

I mean, they gotta do something. Folks don't learn. I've never seen so many fat folks in my life and the number of chubby kids is just appalling.

The diet business has exploded. Grocery stores have these enormous sections of diet food. (Less ingredients, higher price.) Though, as one side pushes for people to stop chowing down like pigs at the trough, the other side (usually the restaurants) are busily developing these high calorie foods that taste so darn good -- and are so bad for you.

Then there's those TV shows which feature places serving up truck sized hamburgers, hotdogs buried under a ton of chili and sauces, steaks that require two servers to haul them in and the guys who constantly look for new things to dip in batter and deep fry.

Like candy bars, ice cream and bread.

We use so much grease and oil in the restaurant business that an entire, secondary industry has formed using the old stuff to make biofuels and soaps.

Hauling away the stuff was once paid for by the restaurants. Now, grease recyclers fight each other and pay the restaurant to take their cast-offs.

I wear a medium T-shirt. Going to buy new ones has gotten to be a pain in the arse. The racks are piled high with small, large, XL, XXL and XXXL. (I think a new size: WHALE is coming.)

Growing up, I saw very few fat folks on the streets but then again, we didn't have fast food places on nearly every corner. The frozen food sections of the grocery stores were not packed with microwave meals. Nor did we have entire aisles of crunchy snacks. (Frito-Lay had not been thought of yet.) TV was not full of commercials promoting assorted burger joints and kid's meals.

Folks will not listen.

I watched part of a game show the other night. Ten people. Five on each team. Two of the ten were thin. Everyone else ranged from plump to fat. Four were Registered Nurses and they were fat.

I'm starting to hate going to Wal-Mart. You can be nearly flabbed to death there and they need to make the aisles wider because the shoppers are wider. Going to the deli can make me hysterical as a sea of flab just crashes against the glass display cases and pudgy hands and arms are grabbing for bags heavily packed with greasy foods.

I keep expecting to come upon the picked clean bones of some skinny guy, discarded under a rack of XXL clothing after having gotten between fat folks and their chilled racks of packaged deli food.

The style for young women at the mall seems to be tight jeans -- with a wide arse --, tank top -- over the muffin top, and hair pulled back into a knot at the back of the head. The extra flab draws the muscles of their faces down, so they look perpetually pi$$ed.

The same with guys. Just add baseball caps glued to their heads, knee length shorts from the past century and big sneakers. Also, huge, baggy Sports Jersey's.

There's almost always some guy over 6 feet tall, nearly as wide, stumping along and you get out of his way because you just know something that heavy takes awhile to stop.

However, you can't rag on these people like you did smokers. You might hurt their feelings, violate their civil rights and restrict their freedoms.

Hey! Isn't that what YOU did to smokers?


I... I think I'm in love.
 
2013-03-16 08:38:45 PM
Please stop dumbing down our country because some lardasses are so out of touch with their bodies they are barely able to wipe their ass without instructions.

If it is a chain where food is standardized by it's nature, yes, provide salt, fat, calories, ect.

Using a color chart for food is just stupid, it does not provide context.

/And restricting cup sizes is stupid as hell, while we give sugar a try and stop using corn sugar tax breaks.  Just see what happens.
 
2013-03-17 04:47:55 AM
The people who cry about this are probably the same ones who cried for Surgeon General warnings on tobacco products. The health nut snow ball just doesn't stop where people want it.
 
2013-03-17 02:20:18 PM
Give me the Red Light Special with extra bacon and cheese.  Nomnomnom.
 
2013-03-18 07:03:27 AM

RabidJade: The people who cry about this are probably the same ones who cried for Surgeon General warnings on tobacco products. The health nut snow ball just doesn't stop where people want it.


Nope, the crybabies on this story have stayed where they came from. It's not the "health nuts." It's the  scared old man who's being oppressed by additional information about the products he's purchasing at burger king. Oh no! Information about the food i eat! FREEEEDOOOOMMMMM!!
 
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