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(Mother Nature Network)   Not content with forcing restaurants to display the number of calories in its meals, new study suggests Americans would also benefit from a graphic of a traffic light to indicate how healthy each plate is   (mnn.com) divider line 124
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2013-03-16 12:05:52 PM
Food that is sold is designed to make a profit not to be nutritious. That means selling the cheapest ingredients for the maximum price - and pumping as much salt, sugar, flavours and msg in them as possible to make them tasty. If you want food that is actually good for you, then you have to prepare it yourself.
 
2013-03-16 12:05:57 PM
Oh for crissakes! Stop with the dumbing down of society already! Will there be an explaination of the meaning of each light?
Those burgers look good and since I have a healthy diet and lifestyle I can enjoy them once in awhile.
 
2013-03-16 12:05:57 PM
Damn, farked that up.
 
2013-03-16 12:06:13 PM
Ugh, that should say bacon covered.
 
2013-03-16 12:07:22 PM

Krieghund: After California started requiring calorie counts on menus, I was surprised to see Friday's Jack Daniels burgers...a typical 1 patty burger with a sweet Jack Daniels "barbecue-style" sauce...come in at 1500 calories. With fries and a couple of refills of coke, you're going to be closer to 2500 calories than 2000.


Who cares? If you are concerned about counting calories or your diet in general you should only be eating restaurant burgers occasionally, that's just common sense.
 
2013-03-16 12:08:18 PM
Tells you where we are going if you need charts to point things out to people.
Evidently the dumbing down of the population is in high gear.
Citizens you must adhere to our rules, we only make them for your own good !
 
2013-03-16 12:12:44 PM

olddinosaur: And most of these juke jive dumbass busybodies could really benefit from about fifty cracks across the bare ass with a stiff leather belt.

I am sick to death of these self--appointed asshats who want to dictate what kind of light bulbs I may use in my home, hot much soda pop I may have in my cup, what kind of toilet I may install in my bathroom, what kind of appliances I may have in my kitchen, how big a car I may drive, how much salt I may put on my burger, ad infinitum ad nauseam.

I wish they would all go away and shut up, or at least get a life.



They are the new guardians of morality for our new era.  The age of the fire-and-brimstone preacher is passing away, and this new breed of moralizing Pharisees is rising to take their place.  Their principles and rules are different than the old ones, but the desire to see everyone be a "good" person and do what is "right" is just as strong as ever.
 
2013-03-16 12:15:07 PM

born_yesterday: Dude, next time preface your post with a "not safe for brains", or something.  I read it unknowingly, and now I have a nosebleed.


And yet you seem to not have any reasonable response to it.  This is what is so typical.  I can't argue the point so I'll just resort to calling them names.
Ron Paul?  He's INSANE!  Why?  Well...just...I mean, everyone knows that right guys?  I mean I watch the Daily Show, I'm informed about this stuff...
 
2013-03-16 12:15:42 PM

ExpressPork: insano: You have to read between the lines like subby. He knows what this article is really saying; It's a call to arms! See, first there are graphics summarizing the nutritional content of foods, next Obummer is telling you what you can and can't eat, next they're stealing your babies in the middle of the night to be raised in food awareness indoctrination camps where they eat only tofu and bulger wheat and recite nutritional labels.

You are right to purchase a firearm.

The reason us "loonies" on the right get upset over this type of thing is that we're not idiots and we can see what it will eventually become.  You're incredibly ignorant if you don't understand what the "affordable care act" will allow the government to do and what it implies.  It will eventually be the left's argument that the ironically named "affordable care act" gives them license to tell you what you can eat, how much you must exercise, if you're allowed to participate in "extreme" sports, if you're allowed toride a motorcycle and if so, how much you're allowed to drive it.  It will never end.  You're naive if you don't see it coming.
Furthermore, if there is a Government entity that runs efficiently I dont know of it.  You put the same people in charge of the DMV in charge of your health.  By the time you're elderly you will be filling out a 27B-stroke-6 if you want to take an aspirin.


What is it with conservatives and fear? Why do you need fear?
 
2013-03-16 12:16:46 PM

Mambo Bananapatch: What is it with conservatives and fear? Why do you need fear?


Once again, I ask that you please respond directly to my points.
 
2013-03-16 12:17:39 PM

johnny queso: It's not the gov't that is going to be dictating all of that it's your insurance company.


This is what liberals actually believe?   I'm the ignorant one?
 
2013-03-16 12:20:55 PM
If you hate the damn government telling you not to smoke in other people's faces, or coming in with their dumb environmental regulations, you are welcome to go somewhere like China where people can not breathe the air or drink the water. The Yangtze River is now a cesspool. The pollution is so bad it regularly shuts down the Beijing airport because no one can see. "Hazardous" particulate pollution levels are 25 ppm, Los Angeles is like 15, it gets up to 1,000 in Beijing. Then they need to do drastic things like tell people they can only drive every other day. To prevent that, I'll accept some environmental regulations.

Ironically, China is a communist dictatorship, that allows unfettered pollution. America is a democracy that limits certain things for the greater good and to prevent the tragedy of the commons -- "Well, I should be allowed to use whatever light bulbs I want -- but we collectively should stop using so much energy and enriching terrorists in the middle east."

No one wants to be told what to do. But the costs of allowing 320 million idiots to do whatever they want (smoke in public, drive drunk, dump chemicals in the groundwater, use gas like it's water, eat like pigs then get treated for obesity/heart attacks on the public dime, etc.) are just too high.
 
2013-03-16 12:21:08 PM
I find it hard to believe that anybody is confused by a simple listing of the number of calories.  it would seem to provide more useful info than a graphical traffic light.
 
2013-03-16 12:22:35 PM

ExpressPork: johnny queso: It's not the gov't that is going to be dictating all of that it's your insurance company.

This is what liberals actually believe?   I'm the ignorant one?


No and yes.
 
2013-03-16 12:26:42 PM

born_yesterday: No and yes.


Why?
Why can no one respond to anything I say besides calling me names? Is the overwhelming need to feel "right" actually drowning out your common sense and ability to think critically?
 
2013-03-16 12:27:01 PM

born_yesterday: ExpressPork: insano: You have to read between the lines like subby. He knows what this article is really saying; It's a call to arms! See, first there are graphics summarizing the nutritional content of foods, next Obummer is telling you what you can and can't eat, next they're stealing your babies in the middle of the night to be raised in food awareness indoctrination camps where they eat only tofu and bulger wheat and recite nutritional labels.

You are right to purchase a firearm.

The reason us "loonies" on the right get upset over this type of thing is that we're not idiots and we can see what it will eventually become.  You're incredibly ignorant if you don't understand what the "affordable care act" will allow the government to do and what it implies.  It will eventually be the left's argument that the ironically named "affordable care act" gives them license to tell you what you can eat, how much you must exercise, if you're allowed to participate in "extreme" sports, if you're allowed toride a motorcycle and if so, how much you're allowed to drive it.  It will never end.  You're naive if you don't see it coming.
Furthermore, if there is a Government entity that runs efficiently I dont know of it.  You put the same people in charge of the DMV in charge of your health.  By the time you're elderly you will be filling out a 27B-stroke-6 if you want to take an aspirin.

Dude, next time preface your post with a "not safe for brains", or something.  I read it unknowingly, and now I have a nosebleed.


I bet you do a lot of stuff unknowingly.
 
2013-03-16 12:27:58 PM

ExpressPork: johnny queso: It's not the gov't that is going to be dictating all of that it's your insurance company.

This is what liberals actually believe?   I'm the ignorant one?


Whom do you think is asking the government to do this stuff?

This is what drives me nuts. People act as though "government" is some amorphous being that exists solely to make your life difficult. It's a bunch of people, who do things because other people ask them to, and that happens because those people are being asked to spend money in ways they don't agree with. Insurance companies want to minimize their claim expenses.
 
2013-03-16 12:29:43 PM
More stupidity; not surprised. It might be useful, though, if it was - instead of giving its opinion of how  healthy the food supposedly is for you - to warn you of what each item might do to your digestive tract.  That might be worth the trouble, expense, and silliness of it all.
 
2013-03-16 12:31:09 PM

iheartscotch: I'm glad I live in a red state! I can have all of the guns, cheeseburgers, sugary drinks, steaks, peanuts, strippers and prime rib I want.

/ dietary restrictions for some; steak and exercise for others


Ehhh... Enjoy it while it lasts. Population growth is highest in them due to the economy. Only a matter of time before the failed staters move in and take over.
 
2013-03-16 12:31:48 PM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Wait, so fast food is "bad" for you now?!

I can't keep up with all scientific mumbo-jumbo. Please help us Federal Government, you're our only hope.


You sound fat.
 
2013-03-16 12:36:48 PM
"That's good news, because this is exactly who the government is trying to reach with this information," Ellison said. "However, labels of any form, so long as they are relatively easy to understand, are likely to have the largest impact on less health-conscious diners, because the information is new to these individuals."

Jesus F'ing Christ.  That is one elitist coont.  My poor, non-professor, simple brain needs simple info, especially since I have never before seen calorie information.  Oh wait, I think I have seen such info since at least the 1980s.  Perhaps not on restaurant menus but on plenty of other labels.

One thing in the article was interesting and that was the claim that 40% of meals are consumed outside the home.  That is a little surprising to me, at least if they mean in restaurants.  If they are including brown bag lunches eaten at work, or school provided lunches, then I can see it.  Otherwise it seems like an insanely high number.  I think my family is pretty typical (I suppose we all think that about ourselves) and we eat out about twice a month.  Far from 40% of meals.  Yes, the kids eat in the cafeteria at school daily and I bring last nights leftovers to work for lunch each day but those meals are similar to meals at home in terms of their healthiness.
 
2013-03-16 12:41:02 PM
Why not just have a cartoon couple throughout the menu.  When the meal is healthy the couple is in shape and as it gets more unhealthy they get fatter until on the really bad ones they die from heart attacks.
 
2013-03-16 12:44:24 PM

whistleridge: FirstNationalBastard: Hey, weren't all these regulations and laws and taxes just WONDERFUL when they were only targeting the nasty old smokers?

You farkers asked for it. Enjoy!

I will. Thank you. 

I don't mind indulging every now and then, but if I glance at the menu and notice 'holy shiat...this quesadilla that I expected to have 800 calories actually somehow has 1700...wtf, did they infuse it with lard or something?', I will likely back off. And my waistline will thank me later.

And a picture would make that process even quicker.


It would take about 8 tablespoons of lard to add that many calories.

/mostly carbohydrates are to blame
 
2013-03-16 12:45:51 PM
Around here there is an expansion of this actually works quite well in practice - it rates them based on calories, fat, sugar, salt (and a fifth thing I am forgetting), you can quickly compare a bunch of items broadly with a glance. It also tends to pressure the makers into keeping under certain levels that are fixed to avoid going into the next color band, where historically the amount of salt/sugar/fat tends to climb over time as people become habituated to higher levels.
 
2013-03-16 12:46:40 PM
I was much happier when I didn't know how many calories were in a slice of pizza at Wegman's.
 
2013-03-16 12:46:54 PM

Ima4nic8or: Jesus F'ing Christ. That is one elitist coont. My poor, non-professor, simple brain needs simple info, especially since I have never before seen calorie information. Oh wait, I think I have seen such info since at least the 1980s. Perhaps not on restaurant menus but on plenty of other labels.


And what about the colorblind?  Are we going to just sit here letting them eat their red-labeled tub of lard?

This system is prejudiced.
 
2013-03-16 12:47:21 PM

ExpressPork: born_yesterday: No and yes.

Why?
Why can no one respond to anything I say besides calling me names? Is the overwhelming need to feel "right" actually drowning out your common sense and ability to think critically?


Welcome to Fark?    Am I doing it right?

More seriously, in the short term, eating fatty, high calorie foods can be very rewarding.   Because, hey, your body still thinks it lives in a paleolithic era and that food is uncertain and that your chances of dying from starvation vastly outweighs any long term diabetes or arteriosclerosis.

So really, "ME WANT FOOD" is the primordial argument behind any hostility and any one of the semi-rational arguments being thrown out there.    In fact, I'll be mentally imagining an angry caveman jumping up and screaming out any negative responses I get to this post.
 
2013-03-16 12:50:28 PM
www.nhpco.org
 
2013-03-16 12:51:05 PM
I actually wouldn't mind this. People have the right to know exactly what they're putting in their bodies, so that they can make a real, informed decision. After they've been informed, it's completely up to them.

Making that information easily accessible is important.
 
2013-03-16 12:52:21 PM

farkdd: If you hate the damn government telling you not to smoke in other people's faces, or coming in with their dumb environmental regulations, you are welcome to go somewhere like China where people can not breathe the air or drink the water. The Yangtze River is now a cesspool. The pollution is so bad it regularly shuts down the Beijing airport because no one can see. "Hazardous" particulate pollution levels are 25 ppm, Los Angeles is like 15, it gets up to 1,000 in Beijing. Then they need to do drastic things like tell people they can only drive every other day. To prevent that, I'll accept some environmental regulations.

Ironically, China is a communist dictatorship, that allows unfettered pollution. America is a democracy that limits certain things for the greater good and to prevent the tragedy of the commons -- "Well, I should be allowed to use whatever light bulbs I want -- but we collectively should stop using so much energy and enriching terrorists in the middle east."

No one wants to be told what to do. But the costs of allowing 320 million idiots to do whatever they want (smoke in public, drive drunk, dump chemicals in the groundwater, use gas like it's water, eat like pigs then get treated for obesity/heart attacks on the public dime, etc.) are just too high.


Your color shall be orange. The greens and blues are taken.
 
2013-03-16 12:52:53 PM

ExpressPork: insano: You have to read between the lines like subby. He knows what this article is really saying; It's a call to arms! See, first there are graphics summarizing the nutritional content of foods, next Obummer is telling you what you can and can't eat, next they're stealing your babies in the middle of the night to be raised in food awareness indoctrination camps where they eat only tofu and bulger wheat and recite nutritional labels.

You are right to purchase a firearm.

The reason us "loonies" on the right get upset over this type of thing is that we're not idiots and we can see what it will eventually become.  You're incredibly ignorant if you don't understand what the "affordable care act" will allow the government to do and what it implies.  It will eventually be the left's argument that the ironically named "affordable care act" gives them license to tell you what you can eat, how much you must exercise, if you're allowed to participate in "extreme" sports, if you're allowed toride a motorcycle and if so, how much you're allowed to drive it.  It will never end.  You're naive if you don't see it coming.
Furthermore, if there is a Government entity that runs efficiently I dont know of it.  You put the same people in charge of the DMV in charge of your health.  By the time you're elderly you will be filling out a 27B-stroke-6 if you want to take an aspirin.


The DMV in my area is underfunded due to the right-wingers running the place, yet I still managed to renew my license, plates, and registration all at the same desk, after a 10 minute wait, during the 'busy' part of the mourning.

That's uh, one?

Anyway, you loonies on the right are paranoid pussies, in general, constantly screaming chicken-littles.  It makes you look loony when you say that a restructuring of the way employers provide health insurance, utilizing private insurance companies, is going to invariably lead to a ban on skydiving.

Oh, who was in control of my health care pre 'obamacare?" The insurance company. Who will be in 100% control of my health care in 2014? The insurance company. Your chickelittle scream of terror is so frustrating.
 
2013-03-16 01:11:05 PM

darwinpolice: Good lord.  Requiring calorie information is fine.  I look at it when I'm at restaurants, sometimes I'm surprised by the amount of calories in a dish and it occasionally affects my order.

This is just insulting, though.  There's a big difference between being expected to provide consumers with information and providing them with a cartoonish

Graphic Novel Level  value judgment.

Fixed
 
2013-03-16 01:14:24 PM
Nevermind, misread the headline. The traffic light is stupid. Requiring calorie counts isn't stupid.
 
2013-03-16 01:15:00 PM
FirstNationalBastard is my new idol.

I mean, they gotta do something. Folks don't learn. I've never seen so many fat folks in my life and the number of chubby kids is just appalling.

The diet business has exploded. Grocery stores have these enormous sections of diet food. (Less ingredients, higher price.) Though, as one side pushes for people to stop chowing down like pigs at the trough, the other side (usually the restaurants) are busily developing these high calorie foods that taste so darn good -- and are so bad for you.

Then there's those TV shows which feature places serving up truck sized hamburgers, hotdogs buried under a ton of chili and sauces, steaks that require two servers to haul them in and the guys who constantly look for new things to dip in batter and deep fry.

Like candy bars, ice cream and bread.

We use so much grease and oil in the restaurant business that an entire, secondary industry has formed using the old stuff to make biofuels and soaps.

Hauling away the stuff was once paid for by the restaurants. Now, grease recyclers fight each other and pay the restaurant to take their cast-offs.

I wear a medium T-shirt. Going to buy new ones has gotten to be a pain in the arse. The racks are piled high with small, large, XL, XXL and XXXL. (I think a new size: WHALE is coming.)

Growing up, I saw very few fat folks on the streets but then again, we didn't have fast food places on nearly every corner. The frozen food sections of the grocery stores were not packed with microwave meals. Nor did we have entire aisles of crunchy snacks. (Frito-Lay had not been thought of yet.) TV was not full of commercials promoting assorted burger joints and kid's meals.

Folks will not listen.

I watched part of a game show the other night. Ten people. Five on each team. Two of the ten were thin. Everyone else ranged from plump to fat. Four were Registered Nurses and they were fat.

I'm starting to hate going to Wal-Mart. You can be nearly flabbed to death there and they need to make the aisles wider because the shoppers are wider. Going to the deli can make me hysterical as a sea of flab just crashes against the glass display cases and pudgy hands and arms are grabbing for bags heavily packed with greasy foods.

I keep expecting to come upon the picked clean bones of some skinny guy, discarded under a rack of XXL clothing after having gotten between fat folks and their chilled racks of packaged deli food.

The style for young women at the mall seems to be tight jeans -- with a wide arse --, tank top -- over the muffin top, and hair pulled back into a knot at the back of the head. The extra flab draws the muscles of their faces down, so they look perpetually pi$$ed.

The same with guys. Just add baseball caps glued to their heads, knee length shorts from the past century and big sneakers. Also, huge, baggy Sports Jersey's.

There's almost always some guy over 6 feet tall, nearly as wide, stumping along and you get out of his way because you just know something that heavy takes awhile to stop.

However, you can't rag on these people like you did smokers. You might hurt their feelings, violate their civil rights and restrict their freedoms.

Hey! Isn't that what YOU did to smokers?
 
2013-03-16 01:16:40 PM
I'm in Germany right now for work. You know what they don't have everywhere? Low fat this. Low fat that. You get 3.5% or 1.5% milk. The cheese and ice cream have consistency of fresh butter but taste amazing. And bacon and eggs and pretty much anything pork is amazing.

And I have yet to see one massive German yet. (On the scale of a walmart scooter needed). Not a single one. Perhaps it's because they eat small portions. As in a roll, some 2 eggs and a few pieces of bacon. A denny's grand slam could feed 4 over here.

 And they farking bike/walk EVERYWHERE local. Need to go a mile to dinner? Lets walk. Commute to work on a bike.
 
2013-03-16 01:21:23 PM

ExpressPork: insano: You have to read between the lines like subby. He knows what this article is really saying; It's a call to arms! See, first there are graphics summarizing the nutritional content of foods, next Obummer is telling you what you can and can't eat, next they're stealing your babies in the middle of the night to be raised in food awareness indoctrination camps where they eat only tofu and bulger wheat and recite nutritional labels.

You are right to purchase a firearm.

The reason us "loonies" on the right get upset over this type of thing is that we're not idiots and we can see what it will eventually become.  You're incredibly ignorant if you don't understand what the "affordable care act" will allow the government to do and what it implies.  It will eventually be the left's argument that the ironically named "affordable care act" gives them license to tell you what you can eat, how much you must exercise, if you're allowed to participate in "extreme" sports, if you're allowed toride a motorcycle and if so, how much you're allowed to drive it.  It will never end.  You're naive if you don't see it coming.
Furthermore, if there is a Government entity that runs efficiently I dont know of it.  You put the same people in charge of the DMV in charge of your health.  By the time you're elderly you will be filling out a 27B-stroke-6 if you want to take an aspirin.


Points and laughs at ExpressPork.
 
2013-03-16 01:22:44 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Hey, weren't all these regulations and laws and taxes just WONDERFUL when they were only targeting the nasty old smokers?

You farkers asked for it. Enjoy!


"The Slippery Slope" does not exist, fascist.  One thing never leads to another, and changes are never cumulative, and the frog always jumps out of the slowly warming water because snopes and obama.
 
2013-03-16 01:22:58 PM
Keep all this horrible information away from ME!
 
2013-03-16 01:23:23 PM

buckler: [www.nhpco.org image 850x229]


That guy likes it to hurt a little bit.  Kinky.
 
2013-03-16 01:36:54 PM

ExpressPork: the greater good


farkdd: the greater good


SHUT IT!
 
2013-03-16 01:40:31 PM
If you're a grownup and can't keep yourself from destroying your own body, don't expect me to chip in for the bigger coffin.
 
2013-03-16 01:48:37 PM
Ate a 900 Calorie salad at the Fox and Hound. I needed no pictures to tell me that the salad was calorie intensive.  Damn it was good and the female server in Yoga pants had nice glutes.
 
2013-03-16 01:50:09 PM

Warlordtrooper: FirstNationalBastard: Hey, weren't all these regulations and laws and taxes just WONDERFUL when they were only targeting the nasty old smokers?

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You farkers asked for it. Enjoy!


how many people die from second hand eating?


I fully support your right to smoke on private property but your right to do so on public property ends where someone else's right to not die from second hand smoke begins

The only regulation on private businesses should be a requirement to post a big sign on the front door to let customers know that the business allows people to smoke inside it  so customers can make an informed choice

cue


The very fact that smoking is the target of the bans and not the second hand smoke indicates that the intent is to eliminate smoking and not the second hand smoke. I have for the past 20 years since the beginning of the antismoker nutjobs starting spouting their lies have advocated for the laws to ban second hand smoke and not smoking. It would solve the problem as stated while at the same time allowing entrepeneurs to come up with devices to contain the smoke. Jobs can be created, smokers get to smoke, and dooshbags that want hang out with smokers in bars and biatch about the smoke can breathe smoke free air.

 
2013-03-16 01:51:09 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Hey, weren't all these regulations and laws and taxes just WONDERFUL when they were only targeting the nasty old smokers?

You farkers asked for it. Enjoy!


Yeah when they were targeting the smokers who blew smoke in my face, they were great.
DURP
 
2013-03-16 01:52:04 PM

ExpressPork: insano: You have to read between the lines like subby. He knows what this article is really saying; It's a call to arms! See, first there are graphics summarizing the nutritional content of foods, next Obummer is telling you what you can and can't eat, next they're stealing your babies in the middle of the night to be raised in food awareness indoctrination camps where they eat only tofu and bulger wheat and recite nutritional labels.

You are right to purchase a firearm.

The reason us "loonies" on the right get upset over this type of thing is that we're not idiots and we can see what it will eventually become.  You're incredibly ignorant if you don't understand what the "affordable care act" will allow the government to do and what it implies.  It will eventually be the left's argument that the ironically named "affordable care act" gives them license to tell you what you can eat, how much you must exercise, if you're allowed to participate in "extreme" sports, if you're allowed toride a motorcycle and if so, how much you're allowed to drive it.  It will never end.  You're naive if you don't see it coming.
Furthermore, if there is a Government entity that runs efficiently I dont know of it.  You put the same people in charge of the DMV in charge of your health.  By the time you're elderly you will be filling out a 27B-stroke-6 if you want to take an aspirin.


If the government is so inefficient, the we need to get rid of the military and outsource it to corporations who can do it cheaper and efficiently with Chinese slave labor.

Also, Medicare and social security should be sold off to the lowest bidder, as I am sure that no private investment bank or insurance company will put the needs of their clients ahead of their bottom line.


You know what, fark it all. How about instead of a government, we replace it with an efficient private company, like Comcast or Bank of America. I am sure that they will treat everyone the same, even those that are not profitable.

You are a farking child, go back and play with your blocks while the adults have a discussion.
 
2013-03-16 01:53:05 PM

Jeep2011: Ate a 900 Calorie salad at the Fox and Hound. I needed no pictures to tell me that the salad was calorie intensive.  Damn it was good and the female server in Yoga pants had nice glutes.


900 x 3 is only 2700
 
2013-03-16 02:02:18 PM

ExpressPork: Mambo Bananapatch: What is it with conservatives and fear? Why do you need fear?

Once again, I ask that you please respond directly to my points.


I think your points are delusional, and borne of fear. So I ask you, why do you need so much fear? What's the payoff?
 
2013-03-16 02:06:57 PM

Dedmon: ExpressPork: insano: You have to read between the lines like subby. He knows what this article is really saying; It's a call to arms! See, first there are graphics summarizing the nutritional content of foods, next Obummer is telling you what you can and can't eat, next they're stealing your babies in the middle of the night to be raised in food awareness indoctrination camps where they eat only tofu and bulger wheat and recite nutritional labels.

You are right to purchase a firearm.

The reason us "loonies" on the right get upset over this type of thing is that we're not idiots and we can see what it will eventually become.  You're incredibly ignorant if you don't understand what the "affordable care act" will allow the government to do and what it implies.  It will eventually be the left's argument that the ironically named "affordable care act" gives them license to tell you what you can eat, how much you must exercise, if you're allowed to participate in "extreme" sports, if you're allowed toride a motorcycle and if so, how much you're allowed to drive it.  It will never end.  You're naive if you don't see it coming.
Furthermore, if there is a Government entity that runs efficiently I dont know of it.  You put the same people in charge of the DMV in charge of your health.  By the time you're elderly you will be filling out a 27B-stroke-6 if you want to take an aspirin.

The DMV in my area is underfunded due to the right-wingers running the place, yet I still managed to renew my license, plates, and registration all at the same desk, after a 10 minute wait, during the 'busy' part of the mourning.

That's uh, one?

Anyway, you loonies on the right are paranoid pussies, in general, constantly screaming chicken-littles.  It makes you look loony when you say that a restructuring of the way employers provide health insurance, utilizing private insurance companies, is going to invariably lead to a ban on skydiving.

Oh, who was in control of my health care pre 'obamac ...


You really believe that under Obamacare the insurance companies will be in 100% control of your healthcare?  No government requirements that the insurance companies must follow, no new rules for a person to adhere to, no government fees/taxes -- just your insurance company, making all the decisions about what your coverage must consist of, who must be covered, etc?
 
2013-03-16 02:11:39 PM
While I agree that sometimes the whole 'nanny state' thing gets absurd at times, I also believe that it wouldn't be as much of an issue if the whole 'nanny state' mentality wasn't pitted against a food industry hell bent on hiding the presence of the shiat they put in their food, or its lack of nutritional value, just to make it cheap.
 
2013-03-16 02:19:19 PM
meant "borne"
 
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