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(KHOU Houston)   All hell breaks loose when an overprotective helicopter mom spots a cleaning crew employee in the parking lot of her children's school and automatically assumes he's an armed lunatic hellbent on snuffing the life out of every student   (khou.com) divider line 91
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2013-03-16 09:35:45 AM
8 votes:
"The safety of the children is a major priority compared to having a vehicle stolen or a house broken into," said mother Krystal Turbeville.

Until it's *her* vehicle or house.
2013-03-16 10:33:04 AM
7 votes:
So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?
2013-03-16 10:25:35 AM
5 votes:
When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?
2013-03-16 09:55:48 AM
5 votes:
Atchison questioned the deputy. "I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.' I left. I couldn't handle it anymore." Atchison said. No one likes to talk about the "what if," but Atchison believes she got a glimpse and it scares her even more.

Your overblown hysteria only wasted the time and effort of half the town, so naturally your response is to become even more paranoid.
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-16 10:45:08 AM
4 votes:

John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?


Many of us still are. I don't cocoon my daughter this way.
CSB:
I went to a shop that I didn't want my daughter to come with me to, and since it was my day to have her there was no options.
Left her in the car, with the door locked. 3 minutes later some dumb blonde is in my grill blabbing about "..you left her in that car alone?... etc/soforth"
Finally got a word in edgewise, motioned for my kid to roll down her window and told her to tell the woman what I taught her.
My kid holds up my 5D-cell maglight and says "daddy told me if anyone messes with us I'm allowed to knock their brains out!".
Stupid blonde just stands there with her pie-hole hung open and walks slowly away.
I say "that's daddy's girl, wanna get Carvel?"
/CSB

Not all of us are pansies.
2013-03-16 10:39:43 AM
4 votes:
Woman will eventually decide to run for office because nobody is bothering to protect our children.

She'll spend over 20 years in office making laws and regulations about having appointments with schools and submitting to body cavity searches before you enter school property.

She will be lauded as a hero. Will respond with "I"M NOT A 6th GRADER, I'VE SEEN SUSPICIOUS PEOPLE WAITING IN SCHOOL PARKING LOTS" when questioned about her goals and knowledge.
2013-03-16 11:52:11 AM
3 votes:
Sarah Atchison, mother of two, comes off as overwrought and high strung. This is where she really hits her stride:

"I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said ' we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.' I left. I couldn't handle it anymore."
2013-03-16 10:57:23 AM
3 votes:
Lemme guess, Mom was white and the guy who seemed "suspicious" was black.
2013-03-16 10:51:45 AM
3 votes:
While the man she thought looked "suspicious" is questioned, the man she thought "looked nice" waltzed in and shot everyone.

People are idiots who think they can judge a person by looking at them.
2013-03-16 10:51:22 AM
3 votes:

gonegirl: Christ.  She is going to be raising some hyper-fearful little nightmare factories, there.  Bet those kids need medication before they're in double-digits.


Hush now baby, baby don't you cry
Mama's gonna make all of your nightmares come true
Mama's gonna put all of her fears into you
Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing
She won't let you fly but she might let you sing
Mama's gonna keep baby cosy and warm
2013-03-16 10:48:19 AM
3 votes:

IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: Other than being someone she didn't know, I don't see what the guy did that was suspicious.  I can just imagine what that 911 call sounded like.  "Someone has to get here quick!  My God now he's getting keys out of his pocket!!  We're all going to be killed!!"


Given that part of Texas, and guy ended up being a new guy on the cleaning crew, he was probably just brown.  That neighborhood is pretty much golf course subdivisions and is one of the more monied sections of harris county
2013-03-16 10:34:14 AM
3 votes:

Semantic Warrior: I also don't think highly of sending a 2 year old to school... parents seem to want their kids out of their hair as soon as they can walk.


Daycare, dude. They call them "schools" for marketing purposes. Some people have to work for a living. Be nice.
2013-03-16 10:32:16 AM
3 votes:
16 minutes for a "low priority" call is actually pretty quick.  I'm sure, since she was calling from her car and watching the guy, had he gone up to the school or displayed anything that looked like a weapon, and had she conveyed such to the 9-1-1 dispatcher, they would have escalated the call.

As it was, pulling a body from a lake isn't something you just drop because of a "suspicious person", it's almost as though suspicions and threats are two different things.

Next, we're going to see a series of response-to-school drills by police departments causing all sorts of panic ("They didn't tell the parents anything, we thought something serious was really happening!!!")

I also don't think highly of sending a 2 year old to school... parents seem to want their kids out of their hair as soon as they can walk.
2013-03-16 10:31:18 AM
3 votes:
biatch should be charged for every cent her little false alarm cost the juristiction. Try calling an ambulance for a medical scare and see if it's farking free.
2013-03-16 10:30:41 AM
3 votes:
If anyone ever wanted to go shoot up a school - now would be the absolute best time. They already got one false report - the next one will be as slow or slower (rightfully so)

This is just one more over protective paranoid coont who's only achievement in life was squeezing out two screaming babies through her vagina.

She put a whole school on lockdown because she saw what she WANTED to see. If I was the cleaning guy - i'd be pretty pissed if some dumb broad called the cops on me for doing my job. God help the guy if he's black or something, what with all the "I had to shoot him he was making a threatening advance" stories we hear.

Sounds to me like the mom needs some REAL terror in her life so she will know to STFU in regular situations.
2013-03-16 10:29:07 AM
3 votes:
Parents, your children are more likely to be struck by lightning than die in a mass school shooting.  So please, keep them inside forever so they don't reproduce and spread your paranoia into the gene pool.
2013-03-16 10:26:23 AM
3 votes:
If she was armed, she could of taken him out, just in case.
2013-03-16 09:59:07 AM
3 votes:
FTFA: "I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.' I left. I couldn't handle it anymore." Atchison said.

So, deputy makes the right call based on the evidence at hand and its somehow his fault now?  I bet this woman is a true joy when a family member is in the hospital.
2013-03-16 09:21:10 AM
3 votes:
I can't imagine why it would take the cops 16 minutes to get there. Maybe they were off investigating some other wild-goose chase called in by a different hysterical mother?
2013-03-16 12:37:38 PM
2 votes:

Giltric: You have references to back this up or at least something anecdotal?


Nine people shot in broad daylight on a NYC street by cops shooting at an armed man.  The nine were bystanders.  Anecdote that.
2013-03-16 12:09:39 PM
2 votes:

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Right. Obviously, we can't trust teachers with a gun. In that case, if they're so untrustworthy, WHY ARE WE TRUSTING THEM WITH OUR CHILDREN in the first place???


It's not the trust in teachers that's the problem.  It's (a) bringing something into the school that's more likely to cause problems than solve them, (b) some students will find a way to get a hold of them, (c) you don't want random people joining a firefight because you'll more likely end up with friendly fire incidents.  Most teachers don't want them either because then they'll need training, certification, etc. and they already have to do that up the wazoo.
2013-03-16 11:42:21 AM
2 votes:

Russ1642: With mothers acting like this now I'm amazed there isn't entire generation being home-schooled just to keep them safe.


This woman is dropping off a 2 to 4 year old in school. Think about that. Its baby sitting, not schooling. She chews on the police who have better things to do because her needs were not prioritized.  People like this don't take personal responsibility, they want the rest of the world to accomodate them.

Home schooling is about taking on personal responsibility. That is the last thing this woman would do.
2013-03-16 11:01:23 AM
2 votes:
Primrose School at Barkers Cypress? I don't think I've ever seen a punchable school name before.

/except Duke
2013-03-16 10:39:59 AM
2 votes:
Someone thought of the children!
2013-03-16 10:39:12 AM
2 votes:

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


They had a school employee on the other line and they've got a little more than a days experience working at 911 dispatch.  Don't you just suppose they knew how to assess the situation accurately from the multiple calls and rightly de-prioritized it?  Just try to imagine the conversations in the real world and not hypothetical world.  2 minutes of talking to a school employee would've made it obvious the guy wasn't putting together his sniper rifle.
2013-03-16 10:37:47 AM
2 votes:
"My son asked me is that a bad man mommy? Is he gonna go to jail?" she said. "I didn't know what to say to him."

You say "Momma is complete moron, and the sight of your janitor turned her into a scared little biatch"

And a 16 minute response time to a guy standing in a parking lot with no weapons and not troubling anybody?  That's a pretty damn quick for suspicion of loitering.
2013-03-16 10:35:18 AM
2 votes:
This reads like an Onion article.
2013-03-16 10:32:30 AM
2 votes:
Giving birth to a helicopter is bound to make a woman cranky....
2013-03-16 10:29:14 AM
2 votes:

John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?


Somewhere along the line people got the notion that safety comes first. Bravery, courageousness, and sanity went right out the window.
2013-03-16 10:22:22 AM
2 votes:
People see strange people at schools as a threat because that is what they expect.

They need to fulfill their preconceived notions.

It is humanity. We are paranoid by nature and the recent string of shootings have made it even worse. I cant really fault her much because that is what the parent is supposed to expect in this country now.
2013-03-17 02:11:28 AM
1 votes:
Curious:
with any luck she will get a bill from the police for a nuisancecall.

Oh that would just be fantastic.  Sadly, this woman's sister is still trying to stalk/menace me via facebook; sending me messages, replying to posts from a year ago that I made on public sites...   (She's the one that made the most recent comment).

She encourages the publicity, claiming that any publicity is good publicity.  Do you think that holds true for a field like real estate?  I almost want to buy a TF account just to try to submit a farkus followup to this article, telling my story from today in regards to this delusional nutjob.  It was pretty entertaining for me.
2013-03-16 09:07:12 PM
1 votes:

Zelron: Calling it bullshiat doesn't make it bullshiat.  You are, in fact, more likely to injure yourself or someone else than you are likely to protect you or someone else.


The reason that it's a bullshiat statistic is that you are more likely to stab yourself in the eye with a pencil if you have pencils laying around, or cut yourself with a knife if you have knives laying around. Injure yourself with a power saw if you have one, electrocute yourself if your house has electricity, the list can go on. It's bullshiat because it can apply to ANYTHING people have around them, but the anti gun people would rather selectively apply it and pretend like it means something other than the fact that having ANYTHING around increases your chances of getting injured with it.

It's just cherry-picking data to fit the results you want, that's all.
2013-03-16 06:29:19 PM
1 votes:
What a paranoid, delusional, minority-phobe might look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXo7SWMOvaw
2013-03-16 06:21:58 PM
1 votes:

D2theMcV: No one has done this yet? Really?


Some friends and I got into a big flame war with some of her associates who were defending her on her FB fan page..  Needless to say, the page no longer exists.

SUCCESS!!!!

My only regret is not getting a screenshot of the epic threads we had going on.  Some delusional folks out there in Cypress, TX.
2013-03-16 03:04:51 PM
1 votes:

Zelron: StoPPeRmobile: Zelron: A gun in the house is more likely to injure someone in the house than to be used to protect someone in the house.

Suicide isn't the answer.

Suicide is worse for the family and friends than it is for the "victim".  I remember as far back as 6th grade I took a psych test for a friend's mother's PhD thesis.  One of the questions was, "Do you think your family would be better off without you?" to which I answered "No."  But I recall thinking a follow up question should be, "Do you think you'd be better off without you" to which I would have answered "Yes."

Everybody dies.  No one lives forever.  I'm here for the pleasure of my friends and family.  But frankly I don't see the point.  I die, you die, we all die.  Why slog through the tedium of day to day life and arguments about taxes, fire-arms, personal liberties, etc.?

So we're all doomed.  Some of us just realize it earlier than others.


How sad. I don't recall ever hearing a perspective on life from somebody dealing with such deep depression. You have my sympathy.

Yeah, I know, you don't need it or want it, but I can't help but feel sorry for you. I can't begin to imagine your torment.
2013-03-16 01:50:54 PM
1 votes:

Zelron: I don't think it's necessary because knives have other uses than killing. Guns don't, unless you use it as a hammer which is not recommended.


Say what? Guns have plenty of uses other than killing. I've used my guns hundreds of times without killing a thing (excepting some unlucky microbes, I suppose). The vast majority of the time that guns are used, nothing is killed. I use my guns for sport, recreation, and competition.

Sure, a knife has more day-to-day utility in a household sense, but guns have perfectly legitimate, non-killing-related functions. Claiming they don't isn't really accurate.
2013-03-16 01:11:48 PM
1 votes:

The_Gallant_Gallstone: John the Magnificent: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Are you telling me that 9/11 didn't change everything?

9/11 changed everything...


If it wasn't for 9/11, she would have had to go inside to get the number for the police, and found out the guy was actually a janitor... Stupid 911, now ANYONE can call the police.
2013-03-16 01:09:34 PM
1 votes:

mr_a: I can't imagine why it would take the cops 16 minutes to get there. Maybe they were off investigating some other wild-goose chase called in by a different hysterical mother?


FTFA:
"I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.'

In other words, an actual goose...
2013-03-16 12:56:32 PM
1 votes:
Because a car isn't designed to kill.  And we make laws about owning them, keeping them safely maintained, requiring insurance (not all states I suppose).  They're constantly improving safety.  My kids rode in legally required car seats and booster seats.

If guns were made so they couldn't shoot people then I'd have less of a problem with them.  Their sole purpose is to kill.

Cars are used for their intended purpose every day.  It's more likely to be used for its intended purpose than to have a fatal accident.

A gun in the house is more likely to injure someone in the house than to be used to protect someone in the house.

My father-in-law accidentally discharged his handgun in his house twice.  Once was within an hour have having taken a refresher safety class.
My mother-in-law left hers in a changing room in a store (which fortunately she retrieved before it was found by someone else).
I had a friend who blew his head off on purpose.  Perhaps if he hadn't had access to a gun he wouldn't have killed himself.
My father almost took out his eye with a .22 rifle when he shot a rock and a chip came back at him. (Yes, he shouldn't have been shooting at a rock).
A friend of mine almost killed his brother (fortunately the friend was paying attention).  He was loading a double barreled shotgun when his brother walked in front of him.  So my friend turned before closing the breech and both barrels went off.  The pins were too far down.
I have other relatives who own guns (as did my father).  I have friends who own guns.
With all of this, NONE of them have ever been in a situation where having a gun would have protected them.  One perhaps would still be alive.  My father received a minor injury, and my father-in-law had two (that I know of) opportunities to wound/kill someone.
I was shooting skeet once and my friend's friend was a police officer who handed me a shotgun with the safety off.

So, I don't think I'm paranoid when I agree with studies that show that you're more likely to be injured by having a weapon in your home than you are likely to protect yourself.  I'm just playing the odds.  If I thought it would be the other way around, then I'd be the first in line to buy one.
2013-03-16 12:44:08 PM
1 votes:

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Well, that, and to give the good guy an effective tool to deal with the situation, without freaking people like the idiot in the story.


Simply holding a gun, whether you have taken it to the range to shoot it or not, does not actually prepare a person for a RL situation like this. They would most likely still be pissing their pants when push comes to shove.
2013-03-16 12:40:48 PM
1 votes:

Mock26: Zelron: Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.

Yeah, and if you have a knife in the home you are more likely to cut yourself than if you have no knives in the home.


WTF?  When's the last time you heard of someone blowing their buddy's head off with a knife?
2013-03-16 12:38:43 PM
1 votes:

Giltric: You almost sound like the paranoid mom in the article.


I'm not so paranoid that I have to carry around a 9mm penis enhancer.
2013-03-16 12:35:57 PM
1 votes:

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Once again: If a parent walks into a classroom and starts shooting kids, I'd think they'd be "fair game".

It's really not that hard to recognize that if somebody is shooting unarmed children, they're the problem, not somebody trying to help.


Well, I'm making an assumption based on guns in the home.  Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.

So bring them into the school and kids in the school are more likely to be shot accidentally or by someone who's pissed at them.

I'm not going to change your mind.  You're not going to change my mind.  I'd rather have my kids in a gun free school and take the miniscule risk that someone will come in and shoot them than take the larger miniscule risk that they'd accidentally be shot by a weapon brought in for protection.
2013-03-16 12:33:09 PM
1 votes:

Secret Master of All Flatulence: BTW:  I'm not suggesting issuing every teacher a gun.  But if a teacher is willing to get the appropriate training, say, the same training and annual certification as local law enforcement, it would make the school safer, not more dangerous to allow them to be armed.  Besides, DHS recently released a video suggesting that if there's an active shooter, teachers should attack the active shooter with a pair of scissors.  I'm not kidding.  After my wife was locked down in a school while there was an active shooter in a school a short distance away, they told her that if she wanted to resist the shooter, it was permissable to throw textbooks at him.  Textbooks.


i believe anyone who wants to own a gun should have far more training than local law enforcement.  I, for instance, am trained not to shoot a newspaper delivery truck up 40 times and still not hit one of two people inside. LAPD is not.
2013-03-16 12:33:02 PM
1 votes:
Wait, so she pulled up in her vehicle, saw this suspicious looking character, got scared, yet still took her kids inside? Did she not have the school's phone number? If he had been a real shooter, she would have walked her family right into it! Stupid biatch.
2013-03-16 12:31:57 PM
1 votes:

ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?


This.
2013-03-16 12:31:05 PM
1 votes:

Giltric: Has there ever been a case in the US where a student got ahold of an arrmed security officers firearm?


I don't know.  Do you?  But the armed guard's primary job is being a guard.  An armed teacher's primary job is teaching.
2013-03-16 12:29:22 PM
1 votes:

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Well, we've already criminalized the Demon Weed, so there's no pot in the country. The folks who are willing to break the law don't seem to, well, obey the law. All your suggestion would do is disarm the law abiding people, who are not the problem.

Prohibition has never worked.


The only reason you need a concealed weapon is to surprise someone.  Yes, your right, prohibition has never worked.  That's why everyone militia in the country has tanks, nukes, howitzers, etc.
2013-03-16 12:27:19 PM
1 votes:

Secret Master of All Flatulence: I'm pretty sure that most teachers are able to distinguish between a uniformed first responder and some scumbag that walks into a classroom and starts shooting kids.


I'm sure they can.  But can a teacher distinguish between a shooter (who scumbag or not could be wearing a suit and tie) and a parent who's trying to help, and can the uniformed officers distinguish between a teacher, a parent, and a shooter who are all shooting at each other, with most of the bullets going wild and hitting bystanders (children) who are trying to get away?
2013-03-16 12:24:35 PM
1 votes:

Giltric: Ankle holster or an IWB will solve the problem of a kid getting ahold of it.
Where do you get the idea that guns will be stored in a cigar box on top of the teachers desk easily accessible to kids? Mother Jones News?
A teacher can take time in the summer or on a weekend to get proper training.
How many firendly fire incidents have their been in the over 50% of schools in this country that already have and had armed security gurads since the 60's?

Your excuses sound pretty piss poor.


Ankle holster or not, kids (especially those with malicious intent) find a way.
Yes, a teacher can, but most won't want to.  Most won't want to work at a school knowing other teachers are carrying guns.
Armed security guards are different from teachers whose primary job is teaching, not guarding.

Your reasons (not excuses--and mine aren't excuses either) are viewed through rose colored glasses.
2013-03-16 12:23:17 PM
1 votes:

Zelron: Bring guns into schools and kids will get a hold of the guns, whether they mean to be malicious or not


Has there ever been a case in the US where a student got ahold of an arrmed security officers firearm?
2013-03-16 12:17:04 PM
1 votes:
media.avclub.com
2013-03-16 12:10:34 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Homeland Security pays TV stations well for these "If you see something, say something" PSAs.


Yeah, but she didn't see something.
2013-03-16 12:08:10 PM
1 votes:
"My son asked me is that a bad man mommy? Is he gonna go to jail?" she said. "I didn't know what to say to him."
-=-
I bet she still hasn't told him the truth- that's she over-reacted and caused a day of turmoil for everyone around her.

Wouldn't it be great if she was a Fark reader and was reading all these comments about how damn stupid she is?
She would probably be trying to justify her actions here... acting like someone else.
2013-03-16 12:07:29 PM
1 votes:

cman: People see strange people at schools as a threat because that is what they expect.

They need to fulfill their preconceived notions.

It is humanity. We are paranoid by nature and the recent string of shootings have made it even worse. I cant really fault her much because that is what the parent is supposed to expect in this country now.


I expect someone to not fulfill what the previous armed lunatic intended...that everyone live in fear if their own shadow.

It's horrific, but how many school shootings in the last 5 years? 4? 5? How many schools in operation at any given moment?

Stop being such a paranoid PoS...you're ruining everyday life for those if us that choose not to let everyone else dictate our way of life.
2013-03-16 12:05:45 PM
1 votes:

Girl On Couch: I work with a mom like this - she won't let her kids play outside of their cushy suburban home (cul-de-sac no less) alone. Once when she was planning a Disney vacation I told her about the child care they offered so she and he husband could have a night alone and she flipped out - she would never leave her kids with strangers!!! Even after I explained that the Disney babysitters would most,likely not rape her kids she simply would not hear of it. It was just odd.....


My brother and sister in law are like this with their kids.  They're raising targets.  They couldn't believe that my wife left our kids with my son's friend's family to go to an appointment.  She said, 'Well, none of you would look after my kids, I had to leave them with someone!".  Then they asked if *I* knew she was doing this.

They're paranoid and have an alarm system and carry panic buttons.  My BiL keeps setting his off because his keys hit it in his pocket and because it's a silent alarm, they don't know they've set it off until the cops come.

*sigh*  At least my wife has lost most of her paranoia.  A little therapy and a dose of reality helped quite a bit.
2013-03-16 12:03:00 PM
1 votes:

incrdbil: John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Progressives.


It isn't liberals encouraging people to view everyone as a potential deadly threat that requires a maximally violent response to every dog barking in the neighborhood. Thats the NRA line.
2013-03-16 11:56:21 AM
1 votes:

Bartleby the Scrivener: Back in college in the mid-90s i was in the theater group. One of the props for a play was a rifle, which i carried across campus without comnent, stares, or incident.

In retrospect, im grateful im still alive.

\csb


Back college in the early-90s I fired a starter's pistol in my speech class.  Teacher forced me to do a pro-gun control speech and I decided that if she just wanted me to irrationally scare folks I'd do it right.  Got an A.

\stupid
\\coolersb
2013-03-16 11:56:02 AM
1 votes:

Dazman51: Weeping Jesus on a cross....Ban all schools....Home school your kids till they are 18 then release them on the world...


Actually, most home schoolers have jobs as teens and spend a great deal of time around adults learning how to act like adults. Younger children are around older children and learn to socialize with a wide age range. ITs been my experience that your average home schooler is more mature than their public school peers.
2013-03-16 11:54:57 AM
1 votes:

MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.


Yeah, so they could shoot a guy who works there?
2013-03-16 11:53:08 AM
1 votes:

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?
I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


If she was that worried about it, she could have hung around until he did something that actually warranted a 911 call.
If he actually had a gun out on school grounds, the cops would be there so fast the stools at the doughnut shop would still be spinning.
2013-03-16 11:49:41 AM
1 votes:

Secret Master of All Flatulence: superlawyergirl: rumpelstiltskin: It's Texas. I expect a law will be proposed allowing two year olds to bring guns to school.

I'm pretty sure they're considering something similar the next legislative session. Seems we can't get over not being the first state to allow teachers to arm themselves.

Right.  Obviously, we can't trust teachers with a gun.  In that case, if they're so untrustworthy, WHY ARE WE TRUSTING THEM WITH OUR CHILDREN in the first place???


People usually don't die when someone fires a child at them.
2013-03-16 11:47:20 AM
1 votes:

enderthexenocide: superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.

i kind of feel that way too.  i think it's stupid for parents to call the cops every time they see some unfamiliar person near the school, but at the same time, i think it is better for parents to be aware of potentially dangerous people than to simply ignore them or assume they aren't dangerous.  if you see something you think is suspicious, call the cops.  there's nothing wrong with that.

my only worry is that one of these days, a frantic parent will see someone "suspicious" and call the cops, and the first cop on the scene will try to be a superhero and save the day, and inadvertently shoot and kill the cleaning guy in the parking lot because he assumed the guy was armed or something.  eventually all this paranoia about school shootings will result in an innocent person getting killed by a security guard or something because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.




We used to say, "Hi!"

/pussies
2013-03-16 11:44:55 AM
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LargeCanine:  She chews on the police who have better things to do because her needs were not prioritized.


Oh, but her needs WERE prioritized.  Correctly.  She wasn't even reporting a crime.  She wanted the cops to send out a SWAT team because there was a guy in a parking lot.  Very irrational, and completely unrealistic.
2013-03-16 11:40:49 AM
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Girl On Couch: I work with a mom like this - she won't let her kids play outside of their cushy suburban home (cul-de-sac no less) alone. Once when she was planning a Disney vacation I told her about the child care they offered so she and he husband could have a night alone and she flipped out - she would never leave her kids with strangers!!! Even after I explained that the Disney babysitters would most,likely not rape her kids she simply would not hear of it. It was just odd.....


A couple of years ago here on Fark, there was a discussion about schools and the people in them. One Farker commented that he wanted a background check on every adult in the building. Including other parents.

Some people are just too freaked out.
2013-03-16 11:40:28 AM
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superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


i kind of feel that way too.  i think it's stupid for parents to call the cops every time they see some unfamiliar person near the school, but at the same time, i think it is better for parents to be aware of potentially dangerous people than to simply ignore them or assume they aren't dangerous.  if you see something you think is suspicious, call the cops.  there's nothing wrong with that.

my only worry is that one of these days, a frantic parent will see someone "suspicious" and call the cops, and the first cop on the scene will try to be a superhero and save the day, and inadvertently shoot and kill the cleaning guy in the parking lot because he assumed the guy was armed or something.  eventually all this paranoia about school shootings will result in an innocent person getting killed by a security guard or something because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
2013-03-16 11:31:42 AM
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I work with a mom like this - she won't let her kids play outside of their cushy suburban home (cul-de-sac no less) alone. Once when she was planning a Disney vacation I told her about the child care they offered so she and he husband could have a night alone and she flipped out - she would never leave her kids with strangers!!! Even after I explained that the Disney babysitters would most,likely not rape her kids she simply would not hear of it. It was just odd.....
2013-03-16 11:29:55 AM
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Marcintosh: is the guy on death row yet?


Nah... his IQ test came back too high.
2013-03-16 11:29:25 AM
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superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


Right.  Just because there were no weapons visible and nobody recognized him, we should assume that everybody we see is a crazed mass-murderer.  Gotcha.  Anybody want to guess what the man's ethnicity was?
2013-03-16 11:27:37 AM
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 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.

Ah hahahahahaha

#1) after Sandy Hook, all mommies are scared.
#2) Some mommies are smarter than other mommies
#3) Guy is damn lucky she wasn't armed
#4) texas

is the guy on death row yet?
2013-03-16 11:26:45 AM
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superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


In the weeks after Sandy Hook; the shear call volume consering suspicious persons near schools and churches went up by something like 400%.

Not to say some of that wasn't a legitimate issue; but, 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999.....% of the calls were found to be about people who, either didn't exist or had a perfect right to be near the school.

/ with so many people crying wolf, what did you guys think was going to happen?
2013-03-16 11:25:10 AM
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aharown: MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.

Oh my little troll, how I've missed you so.


Yes, citizen, accept your fate. Trust in your phone. In phone we trust.

/observe, report
//you all you guilty
2013-03-16 11:22:00 AM
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MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.


Oh my little troll, how I've missed you so.
2013-03-16 11:14:26 AM
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The_Gallant_Gallstone: John the Magnificent: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Are you telling me that 9/11 didn't change everything?

9/11 changed everything...




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2013-03-16 11:06:55 AM
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If she was African American or Hispanic and living in an inner city, then two hours to never would have been her expected wait time for a cop to show up.
2013-03-16 11:00:57 AM
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Semantic Warrior: superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.

I have to call BS on anything but hysterical paranoia here... If I had kids, and if I was dropping them off at school and saw a suspicious person in the parking lot, you better believe I wouldn't "rush them inside", I'd take them back to the car, drive a safe ways away, then make calls to the police and/or school's office, and await the situation to be resolved.

What if this guy was just a look out and there were others inside?  What if he gets spooked and moves up his time table once your kids are in... Great parenting.  Sounds like she just really needed attention (evidenced by this entire "story"), and was risking her kids lives so SHE could be a victim had something actually happened.


Believe me, I am not holding this woman up to be the next leader of our people. She sounds dramatic, paranoid, and not very smart, considering she took her kids in to a place she felt was about to be under attack.
I just jumped ahead to thinking about the mothers who may shy away from voicing their opinions about actual suspicious activity because they don't want to cause trouble or be considered paranoid. Could you imagine hearing about the Newtown tragedy and knowing you could've helped prevent it? Anyway, that's the thought my comment came from...
Maybe it's because I just read about the large number of medical mistakes that could be prevented if nurses weren't too afraid to speak up about what they see. Anyway..
2013-03-16 10:59:50 AM
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lokis_mentor: IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: Other than being someone she didn't know, I don't see what the guy did that was suspicious.  I can just imagine what that 911 call sounded like.  "Someone has to get here quick!  My God now he's getting keys out of his pocket!!  We're all going to be killed!!"

Given that part of Texas, and guy ended up being a new guy on the cleaning crew, he was probably just brown.  That neighborhood is pretty much golf course subdivisions and is one of the more monied sections of harris county


I live in Katy.

Five bucks the woman is white.  Twenty bucks says the guy was black or Hispanic.
2013-03-16 10:58:31 AM
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Remember back in late 2001 when anyone who looked middle-eastern was a terrorist?
2013-03-16 10:54:48 AM
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ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?


No, no, no! You just know he's going to shoot you as soon as you approach.
Haven't you learned anything?
Do not approach strangers! They are out to kill kill kill!
Better to curl up, hide and be afraid.
You obviously need to watch more television, so you know what's going on in the real world.
2013-03-16 10:54:31 AM
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superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


She didn't even investigate, or for that matter, see anything suspicious. It's not like she had a reason to raise an alarm. if the cleaner did go on a rampage, she would not have been "correct" about anything at all. She would have been a paranoid person whose fantasies happened to match up with a reality that day. She would still have been disconnected from reality. her premises did not fit her conclusions, nor the evidence.
2013-03-16 10:43:36 AM
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NEWS FLASH: Americans are afraid of their own shadows.
2013-03-16 10:43:25 AM
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cman: People see strange people at schools as a threat because that is what they expect.

They need to fulfill their preconceived notions.

It is humanity. We are paranoid by nature and the recent string of shootings have made it even worse. I cant really fault her much because that is what the parent is supposed to expect in this country now.


Thank Fox, CNN,ABC etc...
2013-03-16 10:42:49 AM
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mr_a: I can't imagine why it would take the cops 16 minutes to get there. Maybe they were off investigating some other wild-goose chase called in by a different hysterical mother?


Dispatcher:  911. What's your emergency?
Mom: I just dropped little Johnny off at school and there's a man in the parking lot who looks suspicious.
Dispatcher: In case we need to call you back, what's your number?
Mom: xxx-xxx-xxxx.
Dispatcher: Which school are you at?
Mom: blah blah
Dispatcher: Why does the man look suspicious?
Mom: He's pacing back and forth in the parking lot.
Dispatcher: Does he have any weapons?
Mom: I can't see any at the moment. But he looks dangerous.
Dispatcher: What exactly is he doing?
Mom: He's pacing back and forth in the parking lot and looks very anxious.  I'm very scared for my son's safety now.
Dispatcher: Is he moving towards you or your son?
Mom: No, he's just staying in the parking lot! PLEASE. DO SOMETHING!!
2013-03-16 10:40:42 AM
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No mention yet if the guy was hispanic, black, or asian.
2013-03-16 10:38:51 AM
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So, no one had the balls to just walk up to him and ask what his business was at the school?

Who are these idiots? I wouldn't feel safe knowing school officials are calling 911 all Willy nilly on people in the parking lot.
2013-03-16 10:37:05 AM
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ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?


That's crazy talk.
2013-03-16 10:33:33 AM
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mr_a: I can't imagine why it would take the cops 16 minutes to get there. Maybe they were off investigating some other wild-goose chase called in by a different hysterical mother?


Because they've answered enough calls by idiots to know when there isn't a real problem.  And they had someone from the school on the other line who likely was also pointing out the mother is a nut.
2013-03-16 10:28:39 AM
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Christ.  She is going to be raising some hyper-fearful little nightmare factories, there.  Bet those kids need medication before they're in double-digits.
2013-03-16 10:27:39 AM
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With mothers acting like this now I'm amazed there isn't entire generation being home-schooled just to keep them safe.
2013-03-16 10:27:02 AM
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John the Magnificent: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?


Are you telling me that 9/11 didn't change everything?

9/11 changed everything...
2013-03-16 10:21:58 AM
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Remove everybody's arms and legs.
 
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