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(KHOU Houston)   All hell breaks loose when an overprotective helicopter mom spots a cleaning crew employee in the parking lot of her children's school and automatically assumes he's an armed lunatic hellbent on snuffing the life out of every student   (khou.com) divider line 290
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2013-03-16 09:21:10 AM
I can't imagine why it would take the cops 16 minutes to get there. Maybe they were off investigating some other wild-goose chase called in by a different hysterical mother?
 
2013-03-16 09:35:45 AM
"The safety of the children is a major priority compared to having a vehicle stolen or a house broken into," said mother Krystal Turbeville.

Until it's *her* vehicle or house.
 
2013-03-16 09:53:38 AM
It's Texas. I expect a law will be proposed allowing two year olds to bring guns to school.
 
2013-03-16 09:55:48 AM
Atchison questioned the deputy. "I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.' I left. I couldn't handle it anymore." Atchison said. No one likes to talk about the "what if," but Atchison believes she got a glimpse and it scares her even more.

Your overblown hysteria only wasted the time and effort of half the town, so naturally your response is to become even more paranoid.
 
2013-03-16 09:59:07 AM
FTFA: "I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.' I left. I couldn't handle it anymore." Atchison said.

So, deputy makes the right call based on the evidence at hand and its somehow his fault now?  I bet this woman is a true joy when a family member is in the hospital.
 
2013-03-16 10:21:58 AM
Remove everybody's arms and legs.
 
2013-03-16 10:22:22 AM
People see strange people at schools as a threat because that is what they expect.

They need to fulfill their preconceived notions.

It is humanity. We are paranoid by nature and the recent string of shootings have made it even worse. I cant really fault her much because that is what the parent is supposed to expect in this country now.
 
2013-03-16 10:23:28 AM

mr_a: I can't imagine why it would take the cops 16 minutes to get there. Maybe they were off investigating some other wild-goose chase called in by a different hysterical mother?


When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
 
2013-03-16 10:25:35 AM
When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?
 
2013-03-16 10:26:23 AM
If she was armed, she could of taken him out, just in case.
 
2013-03-16 10:27:02 AM

John the Magnificent: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?


Are you telling me that 9/11 didn't change everything?

9/11 changed everything...
 
2013-03-16 10:27:39 AM
With mothers acting like this now I'm amazed there isn't entire generation being home-schooled just to keep them safe.
 
2013-03-16 10:28:39 AM
Christ.  She is going to be raising some hyper-fearful little nightmare factories, there.  Bet those kids need medication before they're in double-digits.
 
2013-03-16 10:29:07 AM
Parents, your children are more likely to be struck by lightning than die in a mass school shooting.  So please, keep them inside forever so they don't reproduce and spread your paranoia into the gene pool.
 
2013-03-16 10:29:11 AM
She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.
 
2013-03-16 10:29:14 AM

John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?


Somewhere along the line people got the notion that safety comes first. Bravery, courageousness, and sanity went right out the window.
 
2013-03-16 10:30:41 AM
If anyone ever wanted to go shoot up a school - now would be the absolute best time. They already got one false report - the next one will be as slow or slower (rightfully so)

This is just one more over protective paranoid coont who's only achievement in life was squeezing out two screaming babies through her vagina.

She put a whole school on lockdown because she saw what she WANTED to see. If I was the cleaning guy - i'd be pretty pissed if some dumb broad called the cops on me for doing my job. God help the guy if he's black or something, what with all the "I had to shoot him he was making a threatening advance" stories we hear.

Sounds to me like the mom needs some REAL terror in her life so she will know to STFU in regular situations.
 
2013-03-16 10:31:18 AM
biatch should be charged for every cent her little false alarm cost the juristiction. Try calling an ambulance for a medical scare and see if it's farking free.
 
2013-03-16 10:32:16 AM
16 minutes for a "low priority" call is actually pretty quick.  I'm sure, since she was calling from her car and watching the guy, had he gone up to the school or displayed anything that looked like a weapon, and had she conveyed such to the 9-1-1 dispatcher, they would have escalated the call.

As it was, pulling a body from a lake isn't something you just drop because of a "suspicious person", it's almost as though suspicions and threats are two different things.

Next, we're going to see a series of response-to-school drills by police departments causing all sorts of panic ("They didn't tell the parents anything, we thought something serious was really happening!!!")

I also don't think highly of sending a 2 year old to school... parents seem to want their kids out of their hair as soon as they can walk.
 
2013-03-16 10:32:30 AM
Giving birth to a helicopter is bound to make a woman cranky....
 
2013-03-16 10:33:04 AM
So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?
 
2013-03-16 10:33:33 AM

mr_a: I can't imagine why it would take the cops 16 minutes to get there. Maybe they were off investigating some other wild-goose chase called in by a different hysterical mother?


Because they've answered enough calls by idiots to know when there isn't a real problem.  And they had someone from the school on the other line who likely was also pointing out the mother is a nut.
 
2013-03-16 10:34:14 AM
Better safe than sorry,
 
2013-03-16 10:34:14 AM

Semantic Warrior: I also don't think highly of sending a 2 year old to school... parents seem to want their kids out of their hair as soon as they can walk.


Daycare, dude. They call them "schools" for marketing purposes. Some people have to work for a living. Be nice.
 
2013-03-16 10:35:16 AM
A real monster, eater of children, defiler of teachers, and scary to mommies would obviously be more careful in a choice of costume.  A look-a-like Houston police uniform should be the right choice.
 
2013-03-16 10:35:18 AM
This reads like an Onion article.
 
2013-03-16 10:36:02 AM

rumpelstiltskin: It's Texas. I expect a law will be proposed allowing two year olds to bring guns to school.


I'm pretty sure they're considering something similar the next legislative session. Seems we can't get over not being the first state to allow teachers to arm themselves.
 
2013-03-16 10:37:05 AM

ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?


That's crazy talk.
 
2013-03-16 10:37:47 AM
"My son asked me is that a bad man mommy? Is he gonna go to jail?" she said. "I didn't know what to say to him."

You say "Momma is complete moron, and the sight of your janitor turned her into a scared little biatch"

And a 16 minute response time to a guy standing in a parking lot with no weapons and not troubling anybody?  That's a pretty damn quick for suspicion of loitering.
 
2013-03-16 10:38:51 AM
So, no one had the balls to just walk up to him and ask what his business was at the school?

Who are these idiots? I wouldn't feel safe knowing school officials are calling 911 all Willy nilly on people in the parking lot.
 
2013-03-16 10:39:12 AM

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


They had a school employee on the other line and they've got a little more than a days experience working at 911 dispatch.  Don't you just suppose they knew how to assess the situation accurately from the multiple calls and rightly de-prioritized it?  Just try to imagine the conversations in the real world and not hypothetical world.  2 minutes of talking to a school employee would've made it obvious the guy wasn't putting together his sniper rifle.
 
2013-03-16 10:39:43 AM
Woman will eventually decide to run for office because nobody is bothering to protect our children.

She'll spend over 20 years in office making laws and regulations about having appointments with schools and submitting to body cavity searches before you enter school property.

She will be lauded as a hero. Will respond with "I"M NOT A 6th GRADER, I'VE SEEN SUSPICIOUS PEOPLE WAITING IN SCHOOL PARKING LOTS" when questioned about her goals and knowledge.
 
2013-03-16 10:39:47 AM

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


I have to call BS on anything but hysterical paranoia here... If I had kids, and if I was dropping them off at school and saw a suspicious person in the parking lot, you better believe I wouldn't "rush them inside", I'd take them back to the car, drive a safe ways away, then make calls to the police and/or school's office, and await the situation to be resolved.

What if this guy was just a look out and there were others inside?  What if he gets spooked and moves up his time table once your kids are in... Great parenting.  Sounds like she just really needed attention (evidenced by this entire "story"), and was risking her kids lives so SHE could be a victim had something actually happened.
 
2013-03-16 10:39:59 AM
Someone thought of the children!
 
2013-03-16 10:40:42 AM
No mention yet if the guy was hispanic, black, or asian.
 
2013-03-16 10:42:49 AM

mr_a: I can't imagine why it would take the cops 16 minutes to get there. Maybe they were off investigating some other wild-goose chase called in by a different hysterical mother?


Dispatcher:  911. What's your emergency?
Mom: I just dropped little Johnny off at school and there's a man in the parking lot who looks suspicious.
Dispatcher: In case we need to call you back, what's your number?
Mom: xxx-xxx-xxxx.
Dispatcher: Which school are you at?
Mom: blah blah
Dispatcher: Why does the man look suspicious?
Mom: He's pacing back and forth in the parking lot.
Dispatcher: Does he have any weapons?
Mom: I can't see any at the moment. But he looks dangerous.
Dispatcher: What exactly is he doing?
Mom: He's pacing back and forth in the parking lot and looks very anxious.  I'm very scared for my son's safety now.
Dispatcher: Is he moving towards you or your son?
Mom: No, he's just staying in the parking lot! PLEASE. DO SOMETHING!!
 
2013-03-16 10:42:58 AM
Other than being someone she didn't know, I don't see what the guy did that was suspicious.  I can just imagine what that 911 call sounded like.  "Someone has to get here quick!  My God now he's getting keys out of his pocket!!  We're all going to be killed!!"
 
2013-03-16 10:43:25 AM

cman: People see strange people at schools as a threat because that is what they expect.

They need to fulfill their preconceived notions.

It is humanity. We are paranoid by nature and the recent string of shootings have made it even worse. I cant really fault her much because that is what the parent is supposed to expect in this country now.


Thank Fox, CNN,ABC etc...
 
2013-03-16 10:43:36 AM
NEWS FLASH: Americans are afraid of their own shadows.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-16 10:45:08 AM

John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?


Many of us still are. I don't cocoon my daughter this way.
CSB:
I went to a shop that I didn't want my daughter to come with me to, and since it was my day to have her there was no options.
Left her in the car, with the door locked. 3 minutes later some dumb blonde is in my grill blabbing about "..you left her in that car alone?... etc/soforth"
Finally got a word in edgewise, motioned for my kid to roll down her window and told her to tell the woman what I taught her.
My kid holds up my 5D-cell maglight and says "daddy told me if anyone messes with us I'm allowed to knock their brains out!".
Stupid blonde just stands there with her pie-hole hung open and walks slowly away.
I say "that's daddy's girl, wanna get Carvel?"
/CSB

Not all of us are pansies.
 
2013-03-16 10:47:05 AM
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Geez, do I have to do everything around here?
 
2013-03-16 10:47:24 AM

accelerus:  "I had to shoot him he was making a threatening advance"

i45.tinypic.com

 
2013-03-16 10:48:19 AM

IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: Other than being someone she didn't know, I don't see what the guy did that was suspicious.  I can just imagine what that 911 call sounded like.  "Someone has to get here quick!  My God now he's getting keys out of his pocket!!  We're all going to be killed!!"


Given that part of Texas, and guy ended up being a new guy on the cleaning crew, he was probably just brown.  That neighborhood is pretty much golf course subdivisions and is one of the more monied sections of harris county
 
2013-03-16 10:48:38 AM
"Hey, you!  Where'd you get that saxophone?"

"...Sears."

"GET HIM!!!"
 
2013-03-16 10:49:07 AM
She should be charged for wasting  resources. I wonder if anyone died because 911 was too busy to answer all calls that morning. In that case that person's family should sue her for 2nd degree murder.
 
2013-03-16 10:50:47 AM
One good side effect of this hysteria is it takes away from fear of terrorist attacks. Which, I guess is good because I have less to do during false alarms. On the other hand, the funding is starting to diminish because the fear is subsiding.
 
2013-03-16 10:51:22 AM

gonegirl: Christ.  She is going to be raising some hyper-fearful little nightmare factories, there.  Bet those kids need medication before they're in double-digits.


Hush now baby, baby don't you cry
Mama's gonna make all of your nightmares come true
Mama's gonna put all of her fears into you
Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing
She won't let you fly but she might let you sing
Mama's gonna keep baby cosy and warm
 
2013-03-16 10:51:45 AM
While the man she thought looked "suspicious" is questioned, the man she thought "looked nice" waltzed in and shot everyone.

People are idiots who think they can judge a person by looking at them.
 
2013-03-16 10:54:31 AM

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


She didn't even investigate, or for that matter, see anything suspicious. It's not like she had a reason to raise an alarm. if the cleaner did go on a rampage, she would not have been "correct" about anything at all. She would have been a paranoid person whose fantasies happened to match up with a reality that day. She would still have been disconnected from reality. her premises did not fit her conclusions, nor the evidence.
 
2013-03-16 10:54:46 AM
 
2013-03-16 10:54:48 AM

ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?


No, no, no! You just know he's going to shoot you as soon as you approach.
Haven't you learned anything?
Do not approach strangers! They are out to kill kill kill!
Better to curl up, hide and be afraid.
You obviously need to watch more television, so you know what's going on in the real world.
 
2013-03-16 10:55:07 AM
If she'd been able to Stand Her Ground (tm), the headline you'd be reading would be about a hero mother who shot and killed a suspicious-looking man in a school parking lot and single-handedly prevented Sandy Hook 2 from happening, and there'd be no other side of the story to refute what happened.
 
2013-03-16 10:57:23 AM
Lemme guess, Mom was white and the guy who seemed "suspicious" was black.
 
2013-03-16 10:58:25 AM
Thank goodness she wasn't armed. Talk about an object example.
 
2013-03-16 10:58:31 AM
Remember back in late 2001 when anyone who looked middle-eastern was a terrorist?
 
2013-03-16 10:59:10 AM

Deep Contact: If she was armed, she could of taken him out, just in case.


This! And her fear could be resolved in far less than 16 minutes.
 
2013-03-16 10:59:50 AM

lokis_mentor: IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: Other than being someone she didn't know, I don't see what the guy did that was suspicious.  I can just imagine what that 911 call sounded like.  "Someone has to get here quick!  My God now he's getting keys out of his pocket!!  We're all going to be killed!!"

Given that part of Texas, and guy ended up being a new guy on the cleaning crew, he was probably just brown.  That neighborhood is pretty much golf course subdivisions and is one of the more monied sections of harris county


I live in Katy.

Five bucks the woman is white.  Twenty bucks says the guy was black or Hispanic.
 
2013-03-16 11:00:47 AM

Broktun: Remember back in late 2001 when anyone who looked middle-eastern was a terrorist?


Good times.
 
2013-03-16 11:00:57 AM

Semantic Warrior: superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.

I have to call BS on anything but hysterical paranoia here... If I had kids, and if I was dropping them off at school and saw a suspicious person in the parking lot, you better believe I wouldn't "rush them inside", I'd take them back to the car, drive a safe ways away, then make calls to the police and/or school's office, and await the situation to be resolved.

What if this guy was just a look out and there were others inside?  What if he gets spooked and moves up his time table once your kids are in... Great parenting.  Sounds like she just really needed attention (evidenced by this entire "story"), and was risking her kids lives so SHE could be a victim had something actually happened.


Believe me, I am not holding this woman up to be the next leader of our people. She sounds dramatic, paranoid, and not very smart, considering she took her kids in to a place she felt was about to be under attack.
I just jumped ahead to thinking about the mothers who may shy away from voicing their opinions about actual suspicious activity because they don't want to cause trouble or be considered paranoid. Could you imagine hearing about the Newtown tragedy and knowing you could've helped prevent it? Anyway, that's the thought my comment came from...
Maybe it's because I just read about the large number of medical mistakes that could be prevented if nurses weren't too afraid to speak up about what they see. Anyway..
 
2013-03-16 11:01:23 AM
Primrose School at Barkers Cypress? I don't think I've ever seen a punchable school name before.

/except Duke
 
2013-03-16 11:02:35 AM

Deep Contact: If she was armed, she could of taken him out, just in case.


It's only a matter of time before one of these idiots does exactly that.

"But officer, the men with the green truck in the park were carrying a ladder and a shiny saw and some other stuff I couldn't imagine what they were carrying it looked so dangerous with the school just down the street and the playground over there, I thought they were going to kill everyone! So I took careful aim, just like my husband showed me and emptied the magazine, just like he told me to! And I got them BOTH by golly!"

Headline the next day: "Woman claiming to be defending her neighbors children shoots and kills two parks department workers in the back with AR-15."
 
2013-03-16 11:05:41 AM

Satanic_Hamster: lokis_mentor: IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: Other than being someone she didn't know, I don't see what the guy did that was suspicious.  I can just imagine what that 911 call sounded like.  "Someone has to get here quick!  My God now he's getting keys out of his pocket!!  We're all going to be killed!!"

Given that part of Texas, and guy ended up being a new guy on the cleaning crew, he was probably just brown.  That neighborhood is pretty much golf course subdivisions and is one of the more monied sections of harris county

I live in Katy.

Five bucks the woman is white.  Twenty bucks says the guy was black or Hispanic.


I live in Houston, that's a sucker's bet. Especially if it's Cypress.
 
2013-03-16 11:06:55 AM
If she was African American or Hispanic and living in an inner city, then two hours to never would have been her expected wait time for a cop to show up.
 
2013-03-16 11:08:52 AM

SurelyShirley: accelerus:  "I had to shoot him he was making a threatening advance"

[i45.tinypic.com image 217x250]


"He was makin' a move, I had to get it on!"

I can't believe you made a "Heat" reference. And "Waingro", no less. Awesome.
 
2013-03-16 11:09:01 AM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: If she was African American or Hispanic and living in an inner city, then two hours to never would have been her expected wait time for a cop to show up.


And they would have tazered and arrested her if she complained when they arrived.
 
2013-03-16 11:09:21 AM
I find myself sorely disappointed that no one shot and killed this stupid broad and her kids.... Moving on.
 
2013-03-16 11:14:26 AM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: John the Magnificent: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Are you telling me that 9/11 didn't change everything?

9/11 changed everything...




thefocusedfilmographer.files.wordpress.com

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-16 11:16:47 AM

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


Crucified? Well, it is God's plan. Who are you to expect anything?
 
2013-03-16 11:17:14 AM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: John the Magnificent: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Are you telling me that 9/11 didn't change everything?

9/11 changed everything...


Can it even dye my eyes to match my gown?
 
2013-03-16 11:18:54 AM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: If she was African American or Hispanic and living in an inner city, then two hours to never would have been her expected wait time for a cop to show up.


This would be true even if the man was waving a gun around.
 
2013-03-16 11:22:00 AM

MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.


Oh my little troll, how I've missed you so.
 
2013-03-16 11:23:33 AM

Deathfrogg: Deep Contact: If she was armed, she could of taken him out, just in case.

It's only a matter of time before one of these idiots does exactly that.

"But officer, the men with the green truck in the park were carrying a ladder and a shiny saw and some other stuff I couldn't imagine what they were carrying it looked so dangerous with the school just down the street and the playground over there, I thought they were going to kill everyone! So I took careful aim, just like my husband showed me and emptied the magazine, just like he told me to! And I got them BOTH by golly!"

Headline the next day: "Woman claiming to be defending her neighbors children shoots and kills two parks department workers in the back with AR-15."


Has this happened even once, anywhere, since the school shooting hysteria really got going strong in 1999?  "But, hey, it's only a matter of time" -- the opinion that can never be wrong.
 
2013-03-16 11:23:38 AM
Great, Now I've got this song stuck in my head.

Also, this happened in Texas. Go inside, lock all the doors, put your hand on your gun, and don't allow anyone in until the cops got there.

Why couldn't someone just yell to the guy "Hey! What are you doing here?"

Sheesh.
 
2013-03-16 11:24:49 AM
Similar thing happened in Olympia, WA the other day.  Some moron called the cops because they saw a person walking down the street near a school with what turned out to be an umbrella.  Caused 2 or 3 schools to go on lockdown.
 
2013-03-16 11:25:10 AM

aharown: MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.

Oh my little troll, how I've missed you so.


Yes, citizen, accept your fate. Trust in your phone. In phone we trust.

/observe, report
//you all you guilty
 
2013-03-16 11:25:53 AM
I would think banks would be worrying in that town.

I wonder when the movie is coming out.
 
2013-03-16 11:26:45 AM

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


In the weeks after Sandy Hook; the shear call volume consering suspicious persons near schools and churches went up by something like 400%.

Not to say some of that wasn't a legitimate issue; but, 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999.....% of the calls were found to be about people who, either didn't exist or had a perfect right to be near the school.

/ with so many people crying wolf, what did you guys think was going to happen?
 
2013-03-16 11:27:37 AM
 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.

Ah hahahahahaha

#1) after Sandy Hook, all mommies are scared.
#2) Some mommies are smarter than other mommies
#3) Guy is damn lucky she wasn't armed
#4) texas

is the guy on death row yet?
 
2013-03-16 11:29:08 AM

grokca: Broktun: Remember back in late 2001 when anyone who looked middle-eastern was a terrorist?

Good times.


No, Good Times was black, not middle-eastern.

img.imtwelve.com
 
2013-03-16 11:29:12 AM
Weeping Jesus on a cross....Ban all schools....Home school your kids till they are 18 then release them on the world...
 
2013-03-16 11:29:25 AM

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


Right.  Just because there were no weapons visible and nobody recognized him, we should assume that everybody we see is a crazed mass-murderer.  Gotcha.  Anybody want to guess what the man's ethnicity was?
 
2013-03-16 11:29:55 AM

Marcintosh: is the guy on death row yet?


Nah... his IQ test came back too high.
 
2013-03-16 11:31:36 AM
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2013-03-16 11:31:42 AM
I work with a mom like this - she won't let her kids play outside of their cushy suburban home (cul-de-sac no less) alone. Once when she was planning a Disney vacation I told her about the child care they offered so she and he husband could have a night alone and she flipped out - she would never leave her kids with strangers!!! Even after I explained that the Disney babysitters would most,likely not rape her kids she simply would not hear of it. It was just odd.....
 
2013-03-16 11:31:47 AM
What about the cleaning guy?
All those kids are going to be terrified of him and most likely flip out when he shows up to do his job.
 
2013-03-16 11:32:00 AM
read headline, saw 'KHOU', thought 'i bet it's a cy-fair school'.

*check article* private school in cy-fair district. close enough.

i'm so glad i no longer live within 100 miles of that place. and when i did live in houston i was over 20 miles from the cy-fair area, but even with a million people between me and there, 20 miles was not enough.
 
2013-03-16 11:32:03 AM

superlawyergirl: rumpelstiltskin: It's Texas. I expect a law will be proposed allowing two year olds to bring guns to school.

I'm pretty sure they're considering something similar the next legislative session. Seems we can't get over not being the first state to allow teachers to arm themselves.


Right.  Obviously, we can't trust teachers with a gun.  In that case, if they're so untrustworthy, WHY ARE WE TRUSTING THEM WITH OUR CHILDREN in the first place???
 
2013-03-16 11:33:04 AM

MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.


But guns.
 
2013-03-16 11:33:15 AM

ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?


This. This this this this this.
 
2013-03-16 11:35:29 AM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Right.  Obviously, we can't trust teachers with a gun.  In that case, if they're so untrustworthy, WHY ARE WE TRUSTING THEM WITH OUR CHILDREN in the first place???


buh buh teacher you marked this wrong i put 1+1=2 and you said '3' why?

because you're mexican, johnny, and you have to get used to not getting ahead in life.
 
2013-03-16 11:36:23 AM
scary tag?  what...was did the stupid tag refuse to be associated with the story due to how far beyond stupid this goes?
 
2013-03-16 11:37:03 AM
Homeland Security pays TV stations well for these "If you see something, say something" PSAs.
 
2013-03-16 11:37:18 AM

harbingerofdoom: scary tag?  what...was did the stupid tag refuse to be associated with the story due to how far beyond stupid this goes?


stupid typos...
 
2013-03-16 11:38:41 AM

utah dude: buh buh teacher you marked this wrong i put 1+1=2 and you said '3' why?

because you're mexican, johnny, and you have to get used to not getting ahead in life.


In that case, shouldn't we be getting rid of the teacher for being a racist moron?
 
2013-03-16 11:40:28 AM

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


i kind of feel that way too.  i think it's stupid for parents to call the cops every time they see some unfamiliar person near the school, but at the same time, i think it is better for parents to be aware of potentially dangerous people than to simply ignore them or assume they aren't dangerous.  if you see something you think is suspicious, call the cops.  there's nothing wrong with that.

my only worry is that one of these days, a frantic parent will see someone "suspicious" and call the cops, and the first cop on the scene will try to be a superhero and save the day, and inadvertently shoot and kill the cleaning guy in the parking lot because he assumed the guy was armed or something.  eventually all this paranoia about school shootings will result in an innocent person getting killed by a security guard or something because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
2013-03-16 11:40:49 AM

Girl On Couch: I work with a mom like this - she won't let her kids play outside of their cushy suburban home (cul-de-sac no less) alone. Once when she was planning a Disney vacation I told her about the child care they offered so she and he husband could have a night alone and she flipped out - she would never leave her kids with strangers!!! Even after I explained that the Disney babysitters would most,likely not rape her kids she simply would not hear of it. It was just odd.....


A couple of years ago here on Fark, there was a discussion about schools and the people in them. One Farker commented that he wanted a background check on every adult in the building. Including other parents.

Some people are just too freaked out.
 
2013-03-16 11:41:01 AM
You know who else worked at a pre school?


cdn.ilcinemaniaco.com


/just sayin
 
2013-03-16 11:41:13 AM

aharown: MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.

Oh my little troll, how I've missed you so.


So now a troll is anyone that makes a statement you may not agree with?
 
2013-03-16 11:42:21 AM

Russ1642: With mothers acting like this now I'm amazed there isn't entire generation being home-schooled just to keep them safe.


This woman is dropping off a 2 to 4 year old in school. Think about that. Its baby sitting, not schooling. She chews on the police who have better things to do because her needs were not prioritized.  People like this don't take personal responsibility, they want the rest of the world to accomodate them.

Home schooling is about taking on personal responsibility. That is the last thing this woman would do.
 
2013-03-16 11:43:56 AM
Back in college in the mid-90s i was in the theater group. One of the props for a play was a rifle, which i carried across campus without comnent, stares, or incident.

In retrospect, im grateful im still alive.

\csb
 
2013-03-16 11:44:55 AM
LargeCanine:  She chews on the police who have better things to do because her needs were not prioritized.


Oh, but her needs WERE prioritized.  Correctly.  She wasn't even reporting a crime.  She wanted the cops to send out a SWAT team because there was a guy in a parking lot.  Very irrational, and completely unrealistic.
 
2013-03-16 11:46:41 AM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: LargeCanine:  She chews on the police who have better things to do because her needs were not prioritized.


Oh, but her needs WERE prioritized.  Correctly.  She wasn't even reporting a crime.  She wanted the cops to send out a SWAT team because there was a guy in a parking lot.  Very irrational, and completely unrealistic.


:) okay. Fair enough.
 
2013-03-16 11:47:20 AM

enderthexenocide: superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.

i kind of feel that way too.  i think it's stupid for parents to call the cops every time they see some unfamiliar person near the school, but at the same time, i think it is better for parents to be aware of potentially dangerous people than to simply ignore them or assume they aren't dangerous.  if you see something you think is suspicious, call the cops.  there's nothing wrong with that.

my only worry is that one of these days, a frantic parent will see someone "suspicious" and call the cops, and the first cop on the scene will try to be a superhero and save the day, and inadvertently shoot and kill the cleaning guy in the parking lot because he assumed the guy was armed or something.  eventually all this paranoia about school shootings will result in an innocent person getting killed by a security guard or something because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.




We used to say, "Hi!"

/pussies
 
2013-03-16 11:48:00 AM
Satanic_Hamster:

Five bucks the woman is white.  Twenty bucks says the guy was black or Hispanic.

But...but...but...the vast majority of these mass shooting perpetrators are white guys...
 
2013-03-16 11:48:11 AM

lokis_mentor: he was probably just brown


This.
 
2013-03-16 11:49:41 AM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: superlawyergirl: rumpelstiltskin: It's Texas. I expect a law will be proposed allowing two year olds to bring guns to school.

I'm pretty sure they're considering something similar the next legislative session. Seems we can't get over not being the first state to allow teachers to arm themselves.

Right.  Obviously, we can't trust teachers with a gun.  In that case, if they're so untrustworthy, WHY ARE WE TRUSTING THEM WITH OUR CHILDREN in the first place???


People usually don't die when someone fires a child at them.
 
2013-03-16 11:52:11 AM
Sarah Atchison, mother of two, comes off as overwrought and high strung. This is where she really hits her stride:

"I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said ' we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.' I left. I couldn't handle it anymore."
 
2013-03-16 11:53:08 AM

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?
I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


If she was that worried about it, she could have hung around until he did something that actually warranted a 911 call.
If he actually had a gun out on school grounds, the cops would be there so fast the stools at the doughnut shop would still be spinning.
 
2013-03-16 11:54:57 AM

MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.


Yeah, so they could shoot a guy who works there?
 
2013-03-16 11:55:06 AM
CSB: In Louisville, KY, we had some guy in a white van try to kidnap a female employee at a Crackerbarrel a few months ago. After that, there were numerous tips from citizens of "suspicious looking white vans" from all around the city...None of them led to anything. There was even a lady (an employee of a different Crackerbarrel) who claimed some guy in a white van tried to kidnap her the day after the initial incident. She ended up being charged with false reporting, etc.

So yeah, mass hysteria is a biatch.
 
2013-03-16 11:56:02 AM

Dazman51: Weeping Jesus on a cross....Ban all schools....Home school your kids till they are 18 then release them on the world...


Actually, most home schoolers have jobs as teens and spend a great deal of time around adults learning how to act like adults. Younger children are around older children and learn to socialize with a wide age range. ITs been my experience that your average home schooler is more mature than their public school peers.
 
2013-03-16 11:56:07 AM

SurelyShirley: ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?

No, no, no! You just know he's going to shoot you as soon as you approach.
Haven't you learned anything?
Do not approach strangers! They are out to kill kill kill!
Better to curl up, hide and be afraid.
You obviously need to watch more television, so you know what's going on in the real world.


Actually, I do a lot of social engineering for work (you would be amazed how many CEO's desk I have put my feet on) and we encourage  our clients to challenge anyone in their office that appears to not belong.  You don't need to be rude about, just ask them how you can help.  99.99% of the time (or more) the situation is harmless
 
2013-03-16 11:56:21 AM

Bartleby the Scrivener: Back in college in the mid-90s i was in the theater group. One of the props for a play was a rifle, which i carried across campus without comnent, stares, or incident.

In retrospect, im grateful im still alive.

\csb


Back college in the early-90s I fired a starter's pistol in my speech class.  Teacher forced me to do a pro-gun control speech and I decided that if she just wanted me to irrationally scare folks I'd do it right.  Got an A.

\stupid
\\coolersb
 
2013-03-16 11:57:06 AM

vinniethepoo: People usually don't die when someone fires a child at them.



Right.  But if  a teacher is a lunatic bent on committing murder, one of the most serious crimes there is, a sign that says "Gun Free Zone" and is punishable far less severely than murder will really keep them from bringing a gun in illegally.
 
2013-03-16 11:58:03 AM

vartian: Atchison questioned the deputy. "I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.' I left. I couldn't handle it anymore." Atchison said. No one likes to talk about the "what if," but Atchison believes she got a glimpse and it scares her even more.

Your overblown hysteria only wasted the time and effort of half the town, so naturally your response is to become even more paranoid.


Also the article fails to mention which part of California she's from.
 
2013-03-16 11:59:26 AM

ThighsofGlory: vartian: Atchison questioned the deputy. "I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.' I left. I couldn't handle it anymore." Atchison said. No one likes to talk about the "what if," but Atchison believes she got a glimpse and it scares her even more.

Your overblown hysteria only wasted the time and effort of half the town, so naturally your response is to become even more paranoid.

Also the article fails to mention which part of California she's from.


Probably Orange County or Malibu.
 
2013-03-16 12:01:14 PM

John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?


Progressives.
 
2013-03-16 12:02:37 PM
And in the meantime, the medias fearmongering for ratings rolls merrily along.
 
2013-03-16 12:03:00 PM

incrdbil: John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Progressives.


It isn't liberals encouraging people to view everyone as a potential deadly threat that requires a maximally violent response to every dog barking in the neighborhood. Thats the NRA line.
 
2013-03-16 12:04:06 PM

ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?


The guy was probably ethnic. It would be insensitive to question him.
 
2013-03-16 12:04:23 PM
BTW:  I'm not suggesting issuing every teacher a gun.  But if a teacher is willing to get the appropriate training, say, the same training and annual certification as local law enforcement, it would make the school safer, not more dangerous to allow them to be armed.  Besides, DHS recently released a video suggesting that if there's an active shooter, teachers should attack the active shooter with a pair of scissors.  I'm not kidding.  After my wife was locked down in a school while there was an active shooter in a school a short distance away, they told her that if she wanted to resist the shooter, it was permissable to throw textbooks at him.  Textbooks.
 
2013-03-16 12:05:45 PM

Girl On Couch: I work with a mom like this - she won't let her kids play outside of their cushy suburban home (cul-de-sac no less) alone. Once when she was planning a Disney vacation I told her about the child care they offered so she and he husband could have a night alone and she flipped out - she would never leave her kids with strangers!!! Even after I explained that the Disney babysitters would most,likely not rape her kids she simply would not hear of it. It was just odd.....


My brother and sister in law are like this with their kids.  They're raising targets.  They couldn't believe that my wife left our kids with my son's friend's family to go to an appointment.  She said, 'Well, none of you would look after my kids, I had to leave them with someone!".  Then they asked if *I* knew she was doing this.

They're paranoid and have an alarm system and carry panic buttons.  My BiL keeps setting his off because his keys hit it in his pocket and because it's a silent alarm, they don't know they've set it off until the cops come.

*sigh*  At least my wife has lost most of her paranoia.  A little therapy and a dose of reality helped quite a bit.
 
2013-03-16 12:06:24 PM

TheMaskedArmadillo: You don't need to be rude about, just ask them how you can help. 99.99% of the time (or more) the situation is harmless


This!
 
2013-03-16 12:07:29 PM

cman: People see strange people at schools as a threat because that is what they expect.

They need to fulfill their preconceived notions.

It is humanity. We are paranoid by nature and the recent string of shootings have made it even worse. I cant really fault her much because that is what the parent is supposed to expect in this country now.


I expect someone to not fulfill what the previous armed lunatic intended...that everyone live in fear if their own shadow.

It's horrific, but how many school shootings in the last 5 years? 4? 5? How many schools in operation at any given moment?

Stop being such a paranoid PoS...you're ruining everyday life for those if us that choose not to let everyone else dictate our way of life.
 
2013-03-16 12:08:10 PM
"My son asked me is that a bad man mommy? Is he gonna go to jail?" she said. "I didn't know what to say to him."
-=-
I bet she still hasn't told him the truth- that's she over-reacted and caused a day of turmoil for everyone around her.

Wouldn't it be great if she was a Fark reader and was reading all these comments about how damn stupid she is?
She would probably be trying to justify her actions here... acting like someone else.
 
2013-03-16 12:08:24 PM
Has someone mentioned yet how this woman is but one of the things wrong with society these days? Is there a Facebook group dedicated to humiliating her now? Because there should be, if you're into the kind of thing.
 
2013-03-16 12:08:41 PM

SurelyShirley: ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?

No, no, no! You just know he's going to shoot you as soon as you approach.
Haven't you learned anything?
Do not approach strangers! They are out to kill kill kill!
Better to curl up, hide and be afraid.
You obviously need to watch more television, so you know what's going on in the real world.


A new favorite!

KILL YOUR TV
 
2013-03-16 12:09:39 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Right. Obviously, we can't trust teachers with a gun. In that case, if they're so untrustworthy, WHY ARE WE TRUSTING THEM WITH OUR CHILDREN in the first place???


It's not the trust in teachers that's the problem.  It's (a) bringing something into the school that's more likely to cause problems than solve them, (b) some students will find a way to get a hold of them, (c) you don't want random people joining a firefight because you'll more likely end up with friendly fire incidents.  Most teachers don't want them either because then they'll need training, certification, etc. and they already have to do that up the wazoo.
 
2013-03-16 12:10:34 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Homeland Security pays TV stations well for these "If you see something, say something" PSAs.


Yeah, but she didn't see something.
 
2013-03-16 12:11:13 PM
What the hell grade is a 2-year-old in? Pre-school? Ok.
 
2013-03-16 12:14:30 PM

incrdbil: John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Progressives.


Affluence, a perod of generations of domestic peace and increasing comfort/safety, lawyers, and the Precautionary Principle.

Not all Americans are overwrought self-involved wimps, but enough to be noticable.
 
2013-03-16 12:14:45 PM

Zelron: Secret Master of All Flatulence: Right. Obviously, we can't trust teachers with a gun. In that case, if they're so untrustworthy, WHY ARE WE TRUSTING THEM WITH OUR CHILDREN in the first place???

It's not the trust in teachers that's the problem.  It's (a) bringing something into the school that's more likely to cause problems than solve them, (b) some students will find a way to get a hold of them, (c) you don't want random people joining a firefight because you'll more likely end up with friendly fire incidents.  Most teachers don't want them either because then they'll need training, certification, etc. and they already have to do that up the wazoo.


Ankle holster or an IWB will solve the problem of a kid getting ahold of it.
Where do you get the idea that guns will be stored in a cigar box on top of the teachers desk easily accessible to kids? Mother Jones News?
A teacher can take time in the summer or on a weekend to get proper training.
How many firendly fire incidents have their been in the over 50% of schools in this country that already have and had armed security gurads since the 60's?

Your excuses sound pretty piss poor.
 
2013-03-16 12:15:22 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: vinniethepoo: People usually don't die when someone fires a child at them.


Right.  But if  a teacher is a lunatic bent on committing murder, one of the most serious crimes there is, a sign that says "Gun Free Zone" and is punishable far less severely than murder will really keep them from bringing a gun in illegally.


So lets make the country a gun free zone.  At least concealable guns.  Then we don't have to worry about anxious people walking around parking lots putting their hands in their pockets.
 
2013-03-16 12:16:31 PM

Deathfrogg: ThighsofGlory: vartian: Atchison questioned the deputy. "I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.' I left. I couldn't handle it anymore." Atchison said. No one likes to talk about the "what if," but Atchison believes she got a glimpse and it scares her even more.

Your overblown hysteria only wasted the time and effort of half the town, so naturally your response is to become even more paranoid.

Also the article fails to mention which part of California she's from.

Probably Orange County or Malibu


I was thinking Marin, but the officer and the 911 dispatcher weren't summarily fired and their careers destroyed, so you could be correct.
 
2013-03-16 12:17:04 PM
media.avclub.com
 
2013-03-16 12:18:26 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: BTW:  I'm not suggesting issuing every teacher a gun.  But if a teacher is willing to get the appropriate training, say, the same training and annual certification as local law enforcement, it would make the school safer, not more dangerous to allow them to be armed.  Besides, DHS recently released a video suggesting that if there's an active shooter, teachers should attack the active shooter with a pair of scissors.  I'm not kidding.  After my wife was locked down in a school while there was an active shooter in a school a short distance away, they told her that if she wanted to resist the shooter, it was permissable to throw textbooks at him.  Textbooks.


Bring guns into schools and kids will get a hold of the guns, whether they mean to be malicious or not.  It removes the step where the shooter needs to bring a gun to school, because there will already be guns there.

They do not belong there except in the hands of a professional armed guard or police officer.
 
2013-03-16 12:18:58 PM

Zelron: It's not the trust in teachers that's the problem.  It's (a) bringing something into the school that's more likely to cause problems than solve them, (b) some students will find a way to get a hold of them, (c) you don't want random people joining a firefight because you'll more likely end up with friendly fire incidents.  Most teachers don't want them either because then they'll need training, certification, etc. and they already have to do that up the wazoo.


A.  My wife routinely carries in the supermarket close to her school.  Her licensed sidearm doesn't seem to cause problems there.  B.  That's like saying cops shouldn't carry because a criminal might find a way to get a hold of them.  C.  That's complete bullshiat, the same idea that "Blood will run in the streets!" if CCW was legalized.  Not only didn't it, violent crime went down.  I'm pretty sure that most teachers are able to distinguish between a uniformed first responder and some scumbag that walks into a classroom and starts shooting kids.

As far as most teachers not wanting them, fair enough.  I'm not suggesting that teachers MUST be armed. But if a teacher is willing to go through all the bullshiat that would be required so that they could legally carry, they're not going to be the kind of people who would commit a crime with one.  The folks that would commit a crime with them would just say "Screw it" and bring in a gun illegally.
 
2013-03-16 12:19:13 PM

Stoker: Wouldn't it be great if she was a Fark reader and was reading all these comments about how damn stupid she is?
She would probably be trying to justify her actions here... acting like someone else.


Nobody that stupid reads Fark. ;)
 
2013-03-16 12:20:39 PM
FTA: He said 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.'

Sounds more interesting than a panicky parent.
 
2013-03-16 12:22:04 PM

Zelron: So lets make the country a gun free zone.  At least concealable guns.  Then we don't have to worry about anxious people walking around parking lots putting their hands in their pockets.


Well, we've already criminalized the Demon Weed, so there's no pot in the country.  The folks who are willing to break the law don't seem to, well, obey the law.  All your suggestion would do is disarm the law abiding people, who are not the problem.

Prohibition has never worked.
 
2013-03-16 12:23:15 PM

Deathfrogg: incrdbil: John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Progressives.

It isn't liberals encouraging people to view everyone as a potential deadly threat that requires a maximally violent response to every dog barking in the neighborhood. Thats the NRA line.


Sorry, the NRA encourages responsible use of firearms. Joe Biden however, endorses shotgun blasts through a door at people you cant see.
 
2013-03-16 12:23:17 PM

Zelron: Bring guns into schools and kids will get a hold of the guns, whether they mean to be malicious or not


Has there ever been a case in the US where a student got ahold of an arrmed security officers firearm?
 
2013-03-16 12:23:30 PM
superlawyergirl:
Maybe it's because I just read about the large number of medical mistakes that could be prevented if nurses weren't too afraid to speak up about what they see. Anyway..

That reminds me of my grandfather, who'd walk into a doctor's office and tell the receptionist "I'm here to see the nurse."
 
2013-03-16 12:24:30 PM

Zelron: They do not belong there except in the hands of a professional armed guard or police officer.


Once again:  My suggestion would require the teachers that want to carry to obey the same training guidelines as actual police officers.  Actual professional firearms training, annual recertifications, the whole enchilada.
 
2013-03-16 12:24:35 PM

Giltric: Ankle holster or an IWB will solve the problem of a kid getting ahold of it.
Where do you get the idea that guns will be stored in a cigar box on top of the teachers desk easily accessible to kids? Mother Jones News?
A teacher can take time in the summer or on a weekend to get proper training.
How many firendly fire incidents have their been in the over 50% of schools in this country that already have and had armed security gurads since the 60's?

Your excuses sound pretty piss poor.


Ankle holster or not, kids (especially those with malicious intent) find a way.
Yes, a teacher can, but most won't want to.  Most won't want to work at a school knowing other teachers are carrying guns.
Armed security guards are different from teachers whose primary job is teaching, not guarding.

Your reasons (not excuses--and mine aren't excuses either) are viewed through rose colored glasses.
 
2013-03-16 12:24:59 PM
Sarah Atchison, please shoot yourself now.
 
2013-03-16 12:26:24 PM
Well, I got the jist of this situation pretty quick, but went to watch the video anyways.   Maybe that was because I am getting ready to head out on a trip to Katy, or maybe becuase I was just watching Californication and have images of Housewife Hannah stuck in my head, but I was sorely disappointed.

She really looked like she was stressing the stitching on those capri jeans, and when she frowns, her pre-jowls really are quite noticeable.  I hate to think of the guy who is married to this one.  Now, he not only has to try and keep telling her how hot she is, but has to try and assuage her hysteria while she milks this event for attention as long as she can.

Yeah, I am in a foul mood today, and this sure didn't help.  Probably need to go back and watch some more Californication and keep my own mythology alive.
 
2013-03-16 12:26:27 PM

incrdbil: Joe Biden however, endorses shotgun blasts through a door at people you cant see


I wonder if "B..Bu..But Joe said" is a valid defense?

http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/crime/man-charged-for-firing-gun-in-hom e
 
2013-03-16 12:27:19 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: I'm pretty sure that most teachers are able to distinguish between a uniformed first responder and some scumbag that walks into a classroom and starts shooting kids.


I'm sure they can.  But can a teacher distinguish between a shooter (who scumbag or not could be wearing a suit and tie) and a parent who's trying to help, and can the uniformed officers distinguish between a teacher, a parent, and a shooter who are all shooting at each other, with most of the bullets going wild and hitting bystanders (children) who are trying to get away?
 
2013-03-16 12:27:49 PM

Zelron: Ankle holster or not, kids (especially those with malicious intent) find a way.


So you're saying that no new laws would prevent another Sandy Hook?

Good to know.
 
2013-03-16 12:28:48 PM

IronTom: Remove everybody's arms and legs.


img24.imageshack.us

Still a potential threat for biting.
 
2013-03-16 12:29:22 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Well, we've already criminalized the Demon Weed, so there's no pot in the country. The folks who are willing to break the law don't seem to, well, obey the law. All your suggestion would do is disarm the law abiding people, who are not the problem.

Prohibition has never worked.


The only reason you need a concealed weapon is to surprise someone.  Yes, your right, prohibition has never worked.  That's why everyone militia in the country has tanks, nukes, howitzers, etc.
 
2013-03-16 12:29:33 PM
Did he come to vipe zee vindows?
 
2013-03-16 12:31:05 PM

Giltric: Has there ever been a case in the US where a student got ahold of an arrmed security officers firearm?


I don't know.  Do you?  But the armed guard's primary job is being a guard.  An armed teacher's primary job is teaching.
 
2013-03-16 12:31:37 PM

Zelron: Secret Master of All Flatulence: I'm pretty sure that most teachers are able to distinguish between a uniformed first responder and some scumbag that walks into a classroom and starts shooting kids.

I'm sure they can.  But can a teacher distinguish between a shooter (who scumbag or not could be wearing a suit and tie) and a parent who's trying to help, and can the uniformed officers distinguish between a teacher, a parent, and a shooter who are all shooting at each other, with most of the bullets going wild and hitting bystanders (children) who are trying to get away?


Once again:  If a parent walks into a classroom and starts shooting kids, I'd think they'd be "fair game".

It's really not that hard to recognize that if somebody is shooting unarmed children, they're the problem, not somebody trying to help.
 
2013-03-16 12:31:57 PM

ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?


This.
 
2013-03-16 12:32:36 PM

Giltric: So you're saying that no new laws would prevent another Sandy Hook?

Good to know.


WTF?  Never said that.  NEVER.
 
2013-03-16 12:33:02 PM
Wait, so she pulled up in her vehicle, saw this suspicious looking character, got scared, yet still took her kids inside? Did she not have the school's phone number? If he had been a real shooter, she would have walked her family right into it! Stupid biatch.
 
2013-03-16 12:33:09 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: BTW:  I'm not suggesting issuing every teacher a gun.  But if a teacher is willing to get the appropriate training, say, the same training and annual certification as local law enforcement, it would make the school safer, not more dangerous to allow them to be armed.  Besides, DHS recently released a video suggesting that if there's an active shooter, teachers should attack the active shooter with a pair of scissors.  I'm not kidding.  After my wife was locked down in a school while there was an active shooter in a school a short distance away, they told her that if she wanted to resist the shooter, it was permissable to throw textbooks at him.  Textbooks.


i believe anyone who wants to own a gun should have far more training than local law enforcement.  I, for instance, am trained not to shoot a newspaper delivery truck up 40 times and still not hit one of two people inside. LAPD is not.
 
2013-03-16 12:33:41 PM

Zelron: Secret Master of All Flatulence: Well, we've already criminalized the Demon Weed, so there's no pot in the country. The folks who are willing to break the law don't seem to, well, obey the law. All your suggestion would do is disarm the law abiding people, who are not the problem.

Prohibition has never worked.

The only reason you need a concealed weapon is to surprise someone.  Yes, your right, prohibition has never worked.  That's why everyone militia in the country has tanks, nukes, howitzers, etc.


Ahh so you're one of those......
 
2013-03-16 12:34:29 PM

superlawyergirl: but what if her suspicions were correct?


See my previous comment. Stupid hysterical biatch is stupid.
 
2013-03-16 12:35:17 PM

Zelron: can the uniformed officers distinguish between a teacher, a parent, and a shooter who are all shooting at each other, with most of the bullets going wild and hitting bystanders (children) who are trying to get away?


You have references to back this up or at least something anecdotal?

You almost sound like the paranoid mom in the article.
 
2013-03-16 12:35:32 PM

TheMaskedArmadillo: SurelyShirley: ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?

No, no, no! You just know he's going to shoot you as soon as you approach.
Haven't you learned anything?
Do not approach strangers! They are out to kill kill kill!
Better to curl up, hide and be afraid.
You obviously need to watch more television, so you know what's going on in the real world.

Actually, I do a lot of social engineering for work (you would be amazed how many CEO's desk I have put my feet on) and we encourage  our clients to challenge anyone in their office that appears to not belong.  You don't need to be rude about, just ask them how you can help.  99.99% of the time (or more) the situation is harmless


I realize this is not so hard, and is the commsense thing to do, but I can't help being annoyed that I'm being asked to be  a security officer in addition to my real job.  Although I do get pretty hysterical when slobs won't clean up their dishes, which is a similar situation.

Plus, sometimes when I feel like a dick I yank the badged doors shut behind me, even though I know there are people headed for them to come through...
 
2013-03-16 12:35:43 PM
A "new" cleaning crew in that part of Houston (with a school name that sounds like a nice condo complex...wtf?) would likely be all brown and run by a white guy. The guy in the parking lot would also likely know little to no English, and if asked what he was doing there, his attitude would have been of panic, and fear. Moreover, if he resorted to using hand/body gestures to communicate...mopping would indicate stabbing children with a spear, vacuuming would be cleaning up the bloody mess after the massacre, and sweeping would indicate stirring the kids body parts in a vat of boiling water. And God help the poor Hispanic if he gestured like he was cleaning a window, while squeezing the air-trigger of a bottle of non-existent Windex.

Thus, the "bold" person who would have been sent out to ask him what he was doing there would have ended up calling 911 to say that they need SWAT asap, because he's making terrorist gestures.
 
2013-03-16 12:35:57 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Once again: If a parent walks into a classroom and starts shooting kids, I'd think they'd be "fair game".

It's really not that hard to recognize that if somebody is shooting unarmed children, they're the problem, not somebody trying to help.


Well, I'm making an assumption based on guns in the home.  Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.

So bring them into the school and kids in the school are more likely to be shot accidentally or by someone who's pissed at them.

I'm not going to change your mind.  You're not going to change my mind.  I'd rather have my kids in a gun free school and take the miniscule risk that someone will come in and shoot them than take the larger miniscule risk that they'd accidentally be shot by a weapon brought in for protection.
 
2013-03-16 12:36:27 PM

DigitalCoffee: grokca: Broktun: Remember back in late 2001 when anyone who looked middle-eastern was a terrorist?

Good times.

No, Good Times was black, not middle-eastern.

[img.imtwelve.com image 259x194]


Bah.  Good times was Goths!
 
2013-03-16 12:37:38 PM

Giltric: You have references to back this up or at least something anecdotal?


Nine people shot in broad daylight on a NYC street by cops shooting at an armed man.  The nine were bystanders.  Anecdote that.
 
2013-03-16 12:37:49 PM

Satanic_Hamster: lokis_mentor: IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: Other than being someone she didn't know, I don't see what the guy did that was suspicious.  I can just imagine what that 911 call sounded like.  "Someone has to get here quick!  My God now he's getting keys out of his pocket!!  We're all going to be killed!!"

Given that part of Texas, and guy ended up being a new guy on the cleaning crew, he was probably just brown.  That neighborhood is pretty much golf course subdivisions and is one of the more monied sections of harris county

I live in Katy.

Five bucks the woman is white.  Twenty bucks says the guy was black or Hispanic.


In which case she shouldn't have been fearful at all. Blacks and Hispanics are never mass shooters. It's always white folk or the occasional Asian.
 
2013-03-16 12:38:38 PM

Zelron: The only reason you need a concealed weapon is to surprise someone.  Yes, your right, prohibition has never worked.  That's why everyone militia in the country has tanks, nukes, howitzers, etc.


No, the whole idea behind concealed carry is so that the bad guy doesn't know which of his intended victims MIGHT be armed. Well, that, and to give the good guy an effective tool to deal with the situation, without freaking people like the idiot in the story.

Oh, and BTW:  in many states, it's legal to own tanks, howitzers, belt-fed machineguns, "silencers", grenades, "sawed off shotguns", et cetera.  You just have to be able to afford it, pay either a $5 or $200 tax, and pass a background check.  Hell, I know a guy who owns a real, live WWII era bomber.  Oddly enough, they are almost never used to commit crimes.
 
2013-03-16 12:38:43 PM

Giltric: You almost sound like the paranoid mom in the article.


I'm not so paranoid that I have to carry around a 9mm penis enhancer.
 
2013-03-16 12:38:56 PM

Zelron: Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.


Yeah, and if you have a knife in the home you are more likely to cut yourself than if you have no knives in the home.
 
2013-03-16 12:38:58 PM

gonegirl: Christ.  She is going to be raising some hyper-fearful little nightmare factories, there.  Bet those kids need medication before they're in double-digits.


Do you mean double-digits as in chronological age? Or in IQ?
 
2013-03-16 12:39:37 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: BTW:  I'm not suggesting issuing every teacher a gun.  But if a teacher is willing to get the appropriate training, say, the same training and annual certification as local law enforcement, it would make the school safer, not more dangerous to allow them to be armed.  Besides, DHS recently released a video suggesting that if there's an active shooter, teachers should attack the active shooter with a pair of scissors.  I'm not kidding.  After my wife was locked down in a school while there was an active shooter in a school a short distance away, they told her that if she wanted to resist the shooter, it was permissable to throw textbooks at him.  Textbooks.




What trained and certified might look like.
patdollard.com
 
2013-03-16 12:40:48 PM

Mock26: Zelron: Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.

Yeah, and if you have a knife in the home you are more likely to cut yourself than if you have no knives in the home.


WTF?  When's the last time you heard of someone blowing their buddy's head off with a knife?
 
2013-03-16 12:41:15 PM

Zelron: Secret Master of All Flatulence: BTW:  I'm not suggesting issuing every teacher a gun.  But if a teacher is willing to get the appropriate training, say, the same training and annual certification as local law enforcement, it would make the school safer, not more dangerous to allow them to be armed.  Besides, DHS recently released a video suggesting that if there's an active shooter, teachers should attack the active shooter with a pair of scissors.  I'm not kidding.  After my wife was locked down in a school while there was an active shooter in a school a short distance away, they told her that if she wanted to resist the shooter, it was permissable to throw textbooks at him.  Textbooks.

Bring guns into schools and kids will get a hold of the guns, whether they mean to be malicious or not.  It removes the step where the shooter needs to bring a gun to school, because there will already be guns there.

They do not belong there except in the hands of a professional armed guard or police officer.


We accept bloody attrition on our nation's highways, for the good of society. Why is this different?
 
2013-03-16 12:44:08 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Well, that, and to give the good guy an effective tool to deal with the situation, without freaking people like the idiot in the story.


Simply holding a gun, whether you have taken it to the range to shoot it or not, does not actually prepare a person for a RL situation like this. They would most likely still be pissing their pants when push comes to shove.
 
2013-03-16 12:44:54 PM

Zelron: Giltric: You have references to back this up or at least something anecdotal?

Nine people shot in broad daylight on a NYC street by cops shooting at an armed man.  The nine were bystanders.  Anecdote that.


Civil servants...go figure....I'd wager that some of them were not required to have a high score on their exam in order to join the ranks of the NYPD and that some people with higher scores were passed up in the name of diversity and fairness.

Thats why I think we should disarm the police and arm citizens. Part of the reason is the response time, part of the reason is the SCOTUS has stated that it is not the responsibility of the police to protect you, part of the reason is that police are given as much time and as much ammo to be certified on their weapon as needed and rarely do they take the time to actually improve their firearm skills but civillians do.

A cops job is to generate revenue for the municipality, they don't have time or interest in being your personal security guard.
 
2013-03-16 12:45:39 PM

Zelron: Secret Master of All Flatulence: Right. Obviously, we can't trust teachers with a gun. In that case, if they're so untrustworthy, WHY ARE WE TRUSTING THEM WITH OUR CHILDREN in the first place???

It's not the trust in teachers that's the problem.  It's (a) bringing something into the school that's more likely to cause problems than solve them, (b) some students will find a way to get a hold of them, (c) you don't want random people joining a firefight because you'll more likely end up with friendly fire incidents.  Most teachers don't want them either because then they'll need training, certification, etc. and they already have to do that up the wazoo.


You are just scared because you don't want to fire an armed teacher.
 
2013-03-16 12:46:22 PM

Zelron: Giltric: You almost sound like the paranoid mom in the article.

I'm not so paranoid that I have to carry around a 9mm penis enhancer.


EIP? I got some pictures for you.

How do you want me to prove it is my wiener? Should I take a picture of it next to this thread?
 
2013-03-16 12:47:24 PM

Zelron: Well, I'm making an assumption based on guns in the home.  Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.


Um, wrong.  If you die from a gun in the home, it's far more likely to be an actual suicide than either of the others.  You need to read the footnotes in the Kellerman study.  Oh, one other fun factoid:  Kellerman, despite being rabidly anti-gun, has publicly stated that if his wife was being attacked, he'd want her to meet the attacker "with a .38 in her hand."  Oh, crap, now you've got me going.  Another fun little tidbit:  If a person is attacked and decides to resist the attack without a weapon, they have roughly a 1:2 chance of being injured.  If they decide to resist the attack with any weapon other than a firearm, they've got roughly a 1:3 chance of being injured.  If they resist the attack with a firearm, they've got roughly a 1:5 chance of being injured.  Those figures are from DOJ's BJS during the Clinton administration.  Which odds would you prefer?
 
2013-03-16 12:47:50 PM

Zelron: Mock26: Zelron: Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.

Yeah, and if you have a knife in the home you are more likely to cut yourself than if you have no knives in the home.

WTF?  When's the last time you heard of someone blowing their buddy's head off with a knife?


This morning......http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/03/accused_killer_ cut_ankle_brac e.html
 
2013-03-16 12:49:51 PM

offmymeds: FTA: He said 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.'

Sounds more interesting than a panicky parent.


"Wuhl, that person's already DEAD and MY CHILDREN are still ALIIIVE!"
 
2013-03-16 12:49:52 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Secret Master of All Flatulence: Well, that, and to give the good guy an effective tool to deal with the situation, without freaking people like the idiot in the story.

Simply holding a gun, whether you have taken it to the range to shoot it or not, does not actually prepare a person for a RL situation like this. They would most likely still be pissing their pants when push comes to shove.


Same deal with cops.  Do we disarm them?
 
2013-03-16 12:50:14 PM

Zelron: Secret Master of All Flatulence: BTW:  I'm not suggesting issuing every teacher a gun.  But if a teacher is willing to get the appropriate training, say, the same training and annual certification as local law enforcement, it would make the school safer, not more dangerous to allow them to be armed.  Besides, DHS recently released a video suggesting that if there's an active shooter, teachers should attack the active shooter with a pair of scissors.  I'm not kidding.  After my wife was locked down in a school while there was an active shooter in a school a short distance away, they told her that if she wanted to resist the shooter, it was permissable to throw textbooks at him.  Textbooks.

Bring guns into schools and kids will get a hold of the guns, whether they mean to be malicious or not.  It removes the step where the shooter needs to bring a gun to school, because there will already be guns there.

xroads.virginia.edu

They do not belong there except in the hands of a professional armed guard or police officer.


What a trained professional might look like.
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
I wonder if anyone has compaired the odds of being shot by a police officer vs. being mass murdered.
 
2013-03-16 12:51:25 PM

Zelron: Well, I'm making an assumption based on guns in the home. Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.


Do not most suicides occur in the home?
 
2013-03-16 12:52:57 PM

red5ish: Sarah Atchison, mother of two, comes off as overwrought and high strung. This is where she really hits her stride:

"I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said ' we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.' I left. I couldn't handle it anymore."


Her xanax was at home and she was unable to post her terror on FB while waiting. You just don't understand do you?
 
2013-03-16 12:56:32 PM
Because a car isn't designed to kill.  And we make laws about owning them, keeping them safely maintained, requiring insurance (not all states I suppose).  They're constantly improving safety.  My kids rode in legally required car seats and booster seats.

If guns were made so they couldn't shoot people then I'd have less of a problem with them.  Their sole purpose is to kill.

Cars are used for their intended purpose every day.  It's more likely to be used for its intended purpose than to have a fatal accident.

A gun in the house is more likely to injure someone in the house than to be used to protect someone in the house.

My father-in-law accidentally discharged his handgun in his house twice.  Once was within an hour have having taken a refresher safety class.
My mother-in-law left hers in a changing room in a store (which fortunately she retrieved before it was found by someone else).
I had a friend who blew his head off on purpose.  Perhaps if he hadn't had access to a gun he wouldn't have killed himself.
My father almost took out his eye with a .22 rifle when he shot a rock and a chip came back at him. (Yes, he shouldn't have been shooting at a rock).
A friend of mine almost killed his brother (fortunately the friend was paying attention).  He was loading a double barreled shotgun when his brother walked in front of him.  So my friend turned before closing the breech and both barrels went off.  The pins were too far down.
I have other relatives who own guns (as did my father).  I have friends who own guns.
With all of this, NONE of them have ever been in a situation where having a gun would have protected them.  One perhaps would still be alive.  My father received a minor injury, and my father-in-law had two (that I know of) opportunities to wound/kill someone.
I was shooting skeet once and my friend's friend was a police officer who handed me a shotgun with the safety off.

So, I don't think I'm paranoid when I agree with studies that show that you're more likely to be injured by having a weapon in your home than you are likely to protect yourself.  I'm just playing the odds.  If I thought it would be the other way around, then I'd be the first in line to buy one.
 
2013-03-16 12:56:48 PM

AbbeySomeone: red5ish: Sarah Atchison, mother of two, comes off as overwrought and high strung. This is where she really hits her stride:

"I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said ' we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.' I left. I couldn't handle it anymore."

Her xanax was at home and she was unable to post her terror on FB while waiting. You just don't understand do you?




Xanax needs to be banned. I hate you xanax zombies. Get the fark off the road. Oh, and stay out of the schools.
 
2013-03-16 12:59:23 PM

StoPPeRmobile: You are just scared because you don't want to fire an armed teacher.


Nope, I'm not.  I'm actually suffer from depression and frankly wish someone would put me out of my misery every day.  I take medicine for it but it just takes the edge off.  I sometimes think about jumping in front of the train on my way to work, but that'd be inconsiderate to my family and to the driver and to the people trying to get to work.

So no, I'm not afraid of firing an armed teacher.
 
2013-03-16 12:59:49 PM
Was he one of these guys?

banzai.popapostle.com
 
2013-03-16 01:03:41 PM

buckler: Was he one of these guys?

[banzai.popapostle.com image 216x241]


His name was Carmenjelo.

I mean Steve.
 
2013-03-16 01:04:10 PM

Zelron: A gun in the house is more likely to injure someone in the house than to be used to protect someone in the house.


Suicide isn't the answer.
 
2013-03-16 01:04:13 PM

Giltric: Civil servants...go figure....I'd wager that some of them were not required to have a high score on their exam in order to join the ranks of the NYPD and that some people with higher scores were passed up in the name of diversity and fairness.

Thats why I think we should disarm the police and arm citizens. Part of the reason is the response time, part of the reason is the SCOTUS has stated that it is not the responsibility of the police to protect you, part of the reason is that police are given as much time and as much ammo to be certified on their weapon as needed and rarely do they take the time to actually improve their firearm skills but civillians do.

A cops job is to generate revenue for the municipality, they don't have time or interest in being your personal security guard.


Let's see, you scoff at cops being Civil Servants and yet that's what teachers are.  And you expect that teachers will get more training than cops.  And you expect that someone who isn't constantly training (like a SWAT team) has any chance at remaining calm and not start shaking from a rush of adrenaline under fire.

Do you actually read what you write?  "Don't arm cops, they're civil servants.  Arm teachers because they're civil servants."

Do you vote for or against teacher pay raises?  Frankly, if I'm expected to learn to shoot and stay certified I want a raise or it's not in my job description.

I'm not asking for a personal security guard.  I know that if someone breaks into my house to assault me it's between me and the assailant.  I also know that I'm more likely to blow my own foot off with a gun in the house or to hurt one of my family members than I am to be assaulted in my house by some stranger.

Doyou
 
2013-03-16 01:05:26 PM

Zelron: StoPPeRmobile: You are just scared because you don't want to fire an armed teacher.

Nope, I'm not.  I'm actually suffer from depression and frankly wish someone would put me out of my misery every day.  I take medicine for it but it just takes the edge off.  I sometimes think about jumping in front of the train on my way to work, but that'd be inconsiderate to my family and to the driver and to the people trying to get to work.

So no, I'm not afraid of firing an armed teacher.


Fair enough. I'm wrong about that. Sorry.
 
2013-03-16 01:07:04 PM

Giltric: Zelron: Mock26: Zelron: Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.

Yeah, and if you have a knife in the home you are more likely to cut yourself than if you have no knives in the home.

WTF?  When's the last time you heard of someone blowing their buddy's head off with a knife?

This morning......http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/03/accused_killer_ cut_ankle_brac e.html


And you think a gun would have helped her when he got the drop on her?  The only difference would have been that after the attack he would have been armed with a gun.

I'm still playing the odds that I'll be less likely to be assaulted than accidentally kill or harm someone.
 
2013-03-16 01:09:34 PM

mr_a: I can't imagine why it would take the cops 16 minutes to get there. Maybe they were off investigating some other wild-goose chase called in by a different hysterical mother?


FTFA:
"I said I've been on the phone with you for 13 minutes and you're just now getting here? He said 'we've been kind of busy pulling a body out of a lake.'

In other words, an actual goose...
 
2013-03-16 01:10:27 PM
I can understand a lady freaking out due to news-induced paranoia - but the school office staff response was to follow a parent's opinion? Good job there...
 
2013-03-16 01:10:42 PM

nmemkha: While the man she thought looked "suspicious" is questioned, the man she thought "looked nice" waltzed in and shot everyone.

People are idiots who think they can judge a person by looking at them.


And the sign said "Long-haired freaky people need not apply"
So I tucked my hair up under my hat and I went in to ask him why
He said "You look like a fine upstanding young man, I think you'll do"
 
2013-03-16 01:11:48 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: John the Magnificent: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Are you telling me that 9/11 didn't change everything?

9/11 changed everything...


If it wasn't for 9/11, she would have had to go inside to get the number for the police, and found out the guy was actually a janitor... Stupid 911, now ANYONE can call the police.
 
2013-03-16 01:16:19 PM

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?


"Suspicions" of what? A janitor in the parking lot? The guy had no weapons, she had nothing base her "suspicions" on. If we praise this woman, the only logical next step is allowing police to demand our 'papers' at any time, and with no reason. This means they get to pull you off of the street and detain you just because they don't like the way you look.
 
2013-03-16 01:17:51 PM
How dare the police not send a full SWAT response within 3 minutes of a call about a suspicious man doing nothing near a school!

/can we just scratch "home of the brave" out of the anthem?
 
2013-03-16 01:17:56 PM

gja: John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Many of us still are. I don't cocoon my daughter this way.
CSB:
I went to a shop that I didn't want my daughter to come with me to, and since it was my day to have her there was no options.
Left her in the car, with the door locked. 3 minutes later some dumb blonde is in my grill blabbing about "..you left her in that car alone?... etc/soforth"
Finally got a word in edgewise, motioned for my kid to roll down her window and told her to tell the woman what I taught her.
My kid holds up my 5D-cell maglight and says "daddy told me if anyone messes with us I'm allowed to knock their brains out!".
Stupid blonde just stands there with her pie-hole hung open and walks slowly away.
I say "that's daddy's girl, wanna get Carvel?"
/CSB

Not all of us are pansies.


Nice, you took your kid to the porn shop... That's parenting right there.  ;-)
 
2013-03-16 01:21:13 PM

Strolpol: How dare the police not send a full SWAT response within 3 minutes of a call about a suspicious man doing nothing near a school!

/can we just scratch "home of the brave" out of the anthem?




Man, is implied and unnecessary.
 
2013-03-16 01:23:40 PM

Mikey1969: gja: John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Many of us still are. I don't cocoon my daughter this way.
CSB:
I went to a shop that I didn't want my daughter to come with me to, and since it was my day to have her there was no options.
Left her in the car, with the door locked. 3 minutes later some dumb blonde is in my grill blabbing about "..you left her in that car alone?... etc/soforth"
Finally got a word in edgewise, motioned for my kid to roll down her window and told her to tell the woman what I taught her.
My kid holds up my 5D-cell maglight and says "daddy told me if anyone messes with us I'm allowed to knock their brains out!".
Stupid blonde just stands there with her pie-hole hung open and walks slowly away.
I say "that's daddy's girl, wanna get Carvel?"
/CSB

Not all of us are pansies.

Nice, you took your kid to the porn shop... That's parenting right there.  ;-)


How do you take your kid to the internet?
 
2013-03-16 01:24:50 PM

Mock26: Zelron: Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.

Yeah, and if you have a knife in the home you are more likely to cut yourself than if you have no knives in the home.


Yeah, that's a pretty bullshiat statistic, I agree. I could just as easily say that having a car in my garage increases the likelihood that I will die of carbon monoxide poisoning.
 
2013-03-16 01:26:35 PM

Zelron: Mock26: Zelron: Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.

Yeah, and if you have a knife in the home you are more likely to cut yourself than if you have no knives in the home.

WTF?  When's the last time you heard of someone blowing their buddy's head off with a knife?


Well that chick on trial in AZ stabbed her boyfriend multiple times and slashed his throat. The single gunshot was more of an afterthought than anything else.
 
2013-03-16 01:26:47 PM

gonegirl: Christ.  She is going to be raising some hyper-fearful little nightmare factories, there.  Bet those kids need medication before they're in double-digits.


I'd bet real money that they already are
 
2013-03-16 01:28:11 PM

Zelron: Giltric: You almost sound like the paranoid mom in the article.

I'm not so paranoid that I have to carry around a 9mm penis enhancer.


And once again, it's the anti gun crowd that brings genitalia into the discussion.
 
2013-03-16 01:28:12 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Zelron: A gun in the house is more likely to injure someone in the house than to be used to protect someone in the house.

Suicide isn't the answer.


Suicide is worse for the family and friends than it is for the "victim".  I remember as far back as 6th grade I took a psych test for a friend's mother's PhD thesis.  One of the questions was, "Do you think your family would be better off without you?" to which I answered "No."  But I recall thinking a follow up question should be, "Do you think you'd be better off without you" to which I would have answered "Yes."

Everybody dies.  No one lives forever.  I'm here for the pleasure of my friends and family.  But frankly I don't see the point.  I die, you die, we all die.  Why slog through the tedium of day to day life and arguments about taxes, fire-arms, personal liberties, etc.?

So we're all doomed.  Some of us just realize it earlier than others.
 
2013-03-16 01:29:19 PM

Mikey1969: Mock26: Zelron: Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.

Yeah, and if you have a knife in the home you are more likely to cut yourself than if you have no knives in the home.

Yeah, that's a pretty bullshiat statistic, I agree. I could just as easily say that having a car in my garage increases the likelihood that I will die of carbon monoxide poisoning.


Why is there no love for toll-booth operators?
 
2013-03-16 01:31:23 PM

Zelron: StoPPeRmobile: Zelron: A gun in the house is more likely to injure someone in the house than to be used to protect someone in the house.

Suicide isn't the answer.

Suicide is worse for the family and friends than it is for the "victim".  I remember as far back as 6th grade I took a psych test for a friend's mother's PhD thesis.  One of the questions was, "Do you think your family would be better off without you?" to which I answered "No."  But I recall thinking a follow up question should be, "Do you think you'd be better off without you" to which I would have answered "Yes."

Everybody dies.  No one lives forever.  I'm here for the pleasure of my friends and family.  But frankly I don't see the point.  I die, you die, we all die.  Why slog through the tedium of day to day life and arguments about taxes, fire-arms, personal liberties, etc.?

So we're all doomed.  Some of us just realize it earlier than others.


Meh, the trenches of WWI.
 
2013-03-16 01:31:39 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Mikey1969: Mock26: Zelron: Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.

Yeah, and if you have a knife in the home you are more likely to cut yourself than if you have no knives in the home.

Yeah, that's a pretty bullshiat statistic, I agree. I could just as easily say that having a car in my garage increases the likelihood that I will die of carbon monoxide poisoning.

Why is there no love for toll-booth operators?


Because there is no love for toll booths themselves? :-)
 
2013-03-16 01:33:05 PM

Mikey1969: Zelron: Mock26: Zelron: Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that you'll get shot and killed, most likely in an accident or by someone in your home who's pissed at you.

Yeah, and if you have a knife in the home you are more likely to cut yourself than if you have no knives in the home.

WTF?  When's the last time you heard of someone blowing their buddy's head off with a knife?

Well that chick on trial in AZ stabbed her boyfriend multiple times and slashed his throat. The single gunshot was more of an afterthought than anything else.


No one has ever said that you can't be killed with a knife.  Not one person.  Ever.

But you have a better chance against someone with only a knife than you do against someone with a gun.

A person with a knife is less likely to stab the wrong person or accidentally stab someone than someone is with a gun to accidentally shoot someone or shoot the wrong person.

So how about this, as soon as gun deaths are lower than knife deaths we'll start looking at banning knives too.  Would that make you happy?  I don't think it's necessary because knives have other uses than killing.  Guns don't, unless you use it as a hammer which is not recommended.
 
2013-03-16 01:34:39 PM

Mikey1969: Yeah, that's a pretty bullshiat statistic, I agree. I could just as easily say that having a car in my garage increases the likelihood that I will die of carbon monoxide poisoning.


You're more likely to use a car for its intended purpose than have an accident.  With a gun it's the other way around, you're more likely to hurt yourself or someone else in the house than you are to actually protect yourself.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-16 01:34:58 PM

Mikey1969: gja


LOL. Actually it was an electrical supplies place. The owner gets bent went you bring your kid near the contractor counter, so I respect his wishes and don't do that. Because while my daughter will listen to me when I say "don't touch anything" most won't.
 
2013-03-16 01:35:33 PM

Mikey1969: And once again, it's the anti gun crowd that brings genitalia into the discussion.


What can I say?  I have a small penis and I'm jealous.  It's really upsetting when I see a tranny with a bigger one knowing s/he's just going to cut it off!
 
2013-03-16 01:36:18 PM
For those who saw the image I posted earlier, I want to apologize to you for a lapse in judgement on my part. I hope it won't happen again. The offending image has been changed.
 
2013-03-16 01:38:09 PM

Zelron: Because a car isn't designed to kill.  And we make laws about owning them, keeping them safely maintained, requiring insurance (not all states I suppose).  They're constantly improving safety.  My kids rode in legally required car seats and booster seats.

If guns were made so they couldn't shoot people then I'd have less of a problem with them.  Their sole purpose is to kill.

Cars are used for their intended purpose every day.  It's more likely to be used for its intended purpose than to have a fatal accident.

A gun in the house is more likely to injure someone in the house than to be used to protect someone in the house.

My father-in-law accidentally discharged his handgun in his house twice.  Once was within an hour have having taken a refresher safety class.
My mother-in-law left hers in a changing room in a store (which fortunately she retrieved before it was found by someone else).
I had a friend who blew his head off on purpose.  Perhaps if he hadn't had access to a gun he wouldn't have killed himself.
My father almost took out his eye with a .22 rifle when he shot a rock and a chip came back at him. (Yes, he shouldn't have been shooting at a rock).
A friend of mine almost killed his brother (fortunately the friend was paying attention).  He was loading a double barreled shotgun when his brother walked in front of him.  So my friend turned before closing the breech and both barrels went off.  The pins were too far down.
I have other relatives who own guns (as did my father).  I have friends who own guns.
With all of this, NONE of them have ever been in a situation where having a gun would have protected them.  One perhaps would still be alive.  My father received a minor injury, and my father-in-law had two (that I know of) opportunities to wound/kill someone.
I was shooting skeet once and my friend's friend was a police officer who handed me a shotgun with the safety off.

So, I don't think I'm paranoid when I agree with studies that show that you're more ...


Have you ever considered the possibility that your entire family are morons?
 
2013-03-16 01:40:33 PM

Nick Nostril: Satanic_Hamster: lokis_mentor: IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: Other than being someone she didn't know, I don't see what the guy did that was suspicious.  I can just imagine what that 911 call sounded like.  "Someone has to get here quick!  My God now he's getting keys out of his pocket!!  We're all going to be killed!!"

Given that part of Texas, and guy ended up being a new guy on the cleaning crew, he was probably just brown.  That neighborhood is pretty much golf course subdivisions and is one of the more monied sections of harris county

I live in Katy.

Five bucks the woman is white.  Twenty bucks says the guy was black or Hispanic.

In which case she shouldn't have been fearful at all. Blacks and Hispanics are never mass shooters. It's always white folk or the occasional Asian.


Except for the two guys that were the "Beltway Snipers."  And the one that the LAPD recently burned alive after having him boxed in.
 
2013-03-16 01:45:33 PM
What the mom needs.
www.visualphotos.com
 
2013-03-16 01:46:51 PM

ThighsofGlory: Have you ever considered the possibility that your entire family are morons?


Well, my wife's side, anyway.  :)
 
2013-03-16 01:49:34 PM

Zelron: You're more likely to use a car for its intended purpose than have an accident.  With a gun it's the other way around, you're more likely to hurt yourself or someone else in the house than you are to actually protect yourself.


Sorry, bullshiat "statistic" is bullshiat.
 
2013-03-16 01:50:54 PM

Zelron: I don't think it's necessary because knives have other uses than killing. Guns don't, unless you use it as a hammer which is not recommended.


Say what? Guns have plenty of uses other than killing. I've used my guns hundreds of times without killing a thing (excepting some unlucky microbes, I suppose). The vast majority of the time that guns are used, nothing is killed. I use my guns for sport, recreation, and competition.

Sure, a knife has more day-to-day utility in a household sense, but guns have perfectly legitimate, non-killing-related functions. Claiming they don't isn't really accurate.
 
2013-03-16 01:52:00 PM

gja: Mikey1969: gja

LOL. Actually it was an electrical supplies place. The owner gets bent went you bring your kid near the contractor counter, so I respect his wishes and don't do that. Because while my daughter will listen to me when I say "don't touch anything" most won't.


LOL

Reality is SO much more boring than imagination, isn't it?  I might have to find a new electrical supplies place if it were me. I can understand requesting that kids are kept under control, I'm not so excited about people who want to sell me stuff not giving me the benefit of the doubt, though.
 
2013-03-16 01:53:49 PM

ThighsofGlory: Have you ever considered the possibility that your entire family are morons?


No, it's easier for him/her to blame the guns, because obviously operator error is never the factor here.
 
2013-03-16 01:54:58 PM

MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.


It took the cops 16 minutes to get there because they realized she was just a paranoid helicopter mom.
 
2013-03-16 01:56:13 PM

HeartBurnKid: MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.

It took the cops 16 minutes to get there because they realized she was just a paranoid helicopter mom.


Oh, and if this mom had a pistol in her purse, the janitor would most likely be dead.  But sure, let's use this as an argument for more guns.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-16 02:01:40 PM

Mikey1969: gja: Mikey1969: gja

LOL. Actually it was an electrical supplies place. The owner gets bent went you bring your kid near the contractor counter, so I respect his wishes and don't do that. Because while my daughter will listen to me when I say "don't touch anything" most won't.

LOL

Reality is SO much more boring than imagination, isn't it?  I might have to find a new electrical supplies place if it were me. I can understand requesting that kids are kept under control, I'm not so excited about people who want to sell me stuff not giving me the benefit of the doubt, though.


Well, it's not really his fault. Some dipshiat brought their kid in and the little spawn-from-hell stuck it's finger in a Greenlee punch, then leaned on the lever.
Needless to say, that finger segment was deleted from his hand muy pronto. Of course they sued, and it cost the shop owner a ton of money.
I remember thinking if it had been me when I was a kid my old man would have gotten me to the hospital, then grounded me for so long I would have had a farkin beard before I was allowed to play again.

Parenting=responsibility. But many mothers and fathers want to push off the responsibility to others. That's a fail in any book.
 
2013-03-16 02:02:15 PM

superlawyergirl: She's considered paranoid and annoying because she was wrong, but what if her suspicions were correct?

I don't support the spread of widespread paranoia, but, if a mother saw something suspicious at a school, didn't say anything out of fear of being called "paranoid", and tons of kids died from the subsequent rampage, she'd be crucified.


I hope you don't take 'logic' like that into the court room.
 
2013-03-16 02:06:53 PM
Was he brown? I bet the cleaning guy was brown.
 
2013-03-16 02:21:08 PM

cybrwzrd: Was he brown? I bet the cleaning guy was brown.


I think it's a given he was either brown or black.
 
2013-03-16 02:26:11 PM

Zelron: Stoker: Wouldn't it be great if she was a Fark reader and was reading all these comments about how damn stupid she is?
She would probably be trying to justify her actions here... acting like someone else.

Nobody that stupid reads Fark. ;)


Oh yeah? Did you read the post immediately before yours?
 
2013-03-16 02:27:02 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Mikey1969: gja: John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Many of us still are. I don't cocoon my daughter this way.
CSB:
I went to a shop that I didn't want my daughter to come with me to, and since it was my day to have her there was no options.
Left her in the car, with the door locked. 3 minutes later some dumb blonde is in my grill blabbing about "..you left her in that car alone?... etc/soforth"
Finally got a word in edgewise, motioned for my kid to roll down her window and told her to tell the woman what I taught her.
My kid holds up my 5D-cell maglight and says "daddy told me if anyone messes with us I'm allowed to knock their brains out!".
Stupid blonde just stands there with her pie-hole hung open and walks slowly away.
I say "that's daddy's girl, wanna get Carvel?"
/CSB

Not all of us are pansies.

Nice, you took your kid to the porn shop... That's parenting right there.  ;-)

How do you take your kid to the internet?


Asian massage parlor then?
 
2013-03-16 02:28:52 PM
i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-16 02:29:08 PM

heypete: Zelron: I don't think it's necessary because knives have other uses than killing. Guns don't, unless you use it as a hammer which is not recommended.

Say what? Guns have plenty of uses other than killing. I've used my guns hundreds of times without killing a thing (excepting some unlucky microbes, I suppose). The vast majority of the time that guns are used, nothing is killed. I use my guns for sport, recreation, and competition.

Sure, a knife has more day-to-day utility in a household sense, but guns have perfectly legitimate, non-killing-related functions. Claiming they don't isn't really accurate.


Yes, same level of utility.  No difference at all.  We all shot our breakfast this morning, didn't we?  Yep, then we all used a knife to butter our toast.  Guns and knives - same.  No real difference.
 
2013-03-16 02:29:44 PM

gja: Mikey1969: gja: Mikey1969: gja

LOL. Actually it was an electrical supplies place. The owner gets bent went you bring your kid near the contractor counter, so I respect his wishes and don't do that. Because while my daughter will listen to me when I say "don't touch anything" most won't.

LOL

Reality is SO much more boring than imagination, isn't it?  I might have to find a new electrical supplies place if it were me. I can understand requesting that kids are kept under control, I'm not so excited about people who want to sell me stuff not giving me the benefit of the doubt, though.

Well, it's not really his fault. Some dipshiat brought their kid in and the little spawn-from-hell stuck it's finger in a Greenlee punch, then leaned on the lever.
Needless to say, that finger segment was deleted from his hand muy pronto. Of course they sued, and it cost the shop owner a ton of money.
I remember thinking if it had been me when I was a kid my old man would have gotten me to the hospital, then grounded me for so long I would have had a farkin beard before I was allowed to play again.

Parenting=responsibility. But many mothers and fathers want to push off the responsibility to others. That's a fail in any book.


Well that sucks... If I had been the shop owner, I woud have seen it as a public service, my own contribution towards supporting Darwin's theory.
 
2013-03-16 02:34:50 PM

MylesHeartVodak: And the one that the LAPD recently burned alive after having him boxed in.


To be fair, he shouldn't be called a "spree killer" or a "mass killer", he had specific targets in mind and took them out based on his perceived "mission". The Beltway Snipers just found easy targets, but they were still more or less random, and the people killed weren't anything more than unlucky. They weren't even people who happened to be in the way when a robbery goes wrong or something. It's like when people call anyone who kills more than one person a "serial killer"...

They DO try and keep these separate, since they are different scenarios entirely.
 
2013-03-16 02:37:05 PM

noitsnot: Yes, same level of utility. No difference at all. We all shot our breakfast this morning, didn't we? Yep, then we all used a knife to butter our toast. Guns and knives - same. No real difference.

riveraveblues.com
 
2013-03-16 02:40:15 PM

Nick Nostril: Satanic_Hamster: lokis_mentor: IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: Other than being someone she didn't know, I don't see what the guy did that was suspicious.  I can just imagine what that 911 call sounded like.  "Someone has to get here quick!  My God now he's getting keys out of his pocket!!  We're all going to be killed!!"

Given that part of Texas, and guy ended up being a new guy on the cleaning crew, he was probably just brown.  That neighborhood is pretty much golf course subdivisions and is one of the more monied sections of harris county

I live in Katy.

Five bucks the woman is white.  Twenty bucks says the guy was black or Hispanic.

In which case she shouldn't have been fearful at all. Blacks and Hispanics are never mass shooters. It's always white folk or the occasional Asian.


I think perhaps you should look up the definition of "always".
 
2013-03-16 02:45:58 PM

noitsnot: Yes, same level of utility.  No difference at all.  We all shot our breakfast this morning, didn't we?  Yep, then we all used a knife to butter our toast.  Guns and knives - same.  No real difference.


Do you lose hair when a point goes whooshing over your head like that, or do you duck?
 
2013-03-16 02:58:34 PM
What a dingbat.
 
2013-03-16 03:02:54 PM

MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.


So they can shoot the cleaning crew?
 
2013-03-16 03:04:51 PM

Zelron: StoPPeRmobile: Zelron: A gun in the house is more likely to injure someone in the house than to be used to protect someone in the house.

Suicide isn't the answer.

Suicide is worse for the family and friends than it is for the "victim".  I remember as far back as 6th grade I took a psych test for a friend's mother's PhD thesis.  One of the questions was, "Do you think your family would be better off without you?" to which I answered "No."  But I recall thinking a follow up question should be, "Do you think you'd be better off without you" to which I would have answered "Yes."

Everybody dies.  No one lives forever.  I'm here for the pleasure of my friends and family.  But frankly I don't see the point.  I die, you die, we all die.  Why slog through the tedium of day to day life and arguments about taxes, fire-arms, personal liberties, etc.?

So we're all doomed.  Some of us just realize it earlier than others.


How sad. I don't recall ever hearing a perspective on life from somebody dealing with such deep depression. You have my sympathy.

Yeah, I know, you don't need it or want it, but I can't help but feel sorry for you. I can't begin to imagine your torment.
 
2013-03-16 03:06:54 PM

starscream1690: ReapTheChaos: So it never occurred to anyone to walk out and ask the guy what he was doing there?

This. This this this this this.


He likely had dark complexion from working outside or possibly because of his race. Everyone knows if you accidentally make eye contact with (or say the wrong thing to) them they pluck out your eyes and skull fark you.
 
2013-03-16 03:08:23 PM

Zelron: Giltric: You almost sound like the paranoid mom in the article.

I'm not so paranoid that I have to carry around a 9mm penis enhancer.


And there it is. Sorry, first to reference penis in a gun thread loses. Sorry, but that's the rule.
 
2013-03-16 03:11:21 PM

vrax: [i48.tinypic.com image 500x400]


Awesome.
 
2013-03-16 03:18:59 PM

TwowheelinTim: Zelron: StoPPeRmobile: Zelron: A gun in the house is more likely to injure someone in the house than to be used to protect someone in the house.

Suicide isn't the answer.

Suicide is worse for the family and friends than it is for the "victim".  I remember as far back as 6th grade I took a psych test for a friend's mother's PhD thesis.  One of the questions was, "Do you think your family would be better off without you?" to which I answered "No."  But I recall thinking a follow up question should be, "Do you think you'd be better off without you" to which I would have answered "Yes."

Everybody dies.  No one lives forever.  I'm here for the pleasure of my friends and family.  But frankly I don't see the point.  I die, you die, we all die.  Why slog through the tedium of day to day life and arguments about taxes, fire-arms, personal liberties, etc.?

So we're all doomed.  Some of us just realize it earlier than others.

How sad. I don't recall ever hearing a perspective on life from somebody dealing with such deep depression. You have my sympathy.

Yeah, I know, you don't need it or want it, but I can't help but feel sorry for you. I can't begin to imagine your torment.


And, for what it's worth, I do realize we're all going to die, and I don't believe in "afterlife". I'm digging on living my life to the fullest I can.
 
2013-03-16 03:24:01 PM

HeartBurnKid: cybrwzrd: Was he brown? I bet the cleaning guy was brown.

I think it's a given he was either brown or black.


Texas.
 
2013-03-16 03:30:06 PM

HeartBurnKid: cybrwzrd: Was he brown? I bet the cleaning guy was brown.

I think it's a given he was either brown or black.


Or a Mooslim.  Don't forget that.
 
2013-03-16 03:33:21 PM

MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.


Yeah, it would have been awesome of she had just shot that innocent man.

He should have a gun as well, to protect himself from armed crazy moms, so we could have had a shootout at that school.
 
2013-03-16 03:47:29 PM

John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?


We were invaded by foreigners and illegals.
 
2013-03-16 03:49:50 PM
No one has done this yet? Really?
 
2013-03-16 03:51:15 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: "The safety of the children is a major priority compared to having a vehicle stolen or a house broken into," said mother Krystal Turbeville.

Until it's *her* vehicle or house.


I was going to snark and say something catty like "Oh I bet they are just over-reacting because they saw a black dude for the first time in their lives", and then I looked up the FaceBook page of the lady with the stripper name.

Texas public high school grad, RMoney supporter, not a single non-white as rice FB amigo.  This shiat is really tooo predictable.
 
2013-03-16 03:51:46 PM

balki1867: If she'd been able to Stand Her Ground (tm), the headline you'd be reading would be about a hero mother who shot and killed a suspicious-looking man in a school parking lot and single-handedly prevented Sandy Hook 2 from happening, and there'd be no other side of the story to refute what happened.


She was able to Stand Her Ground©, she was in Texas.
 
2013-03-16 04:00:06 PM

FARK rebel soldier: Sarah Atchison, please shoot yourself now.


Even worse, she's a realtor.  And nothing of value would be lost.
 
2013-03-16 04:05:22 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that the cleaning guy was somewhat darker than the "concerned" mother.
 
2013-03-16 04:44:58 PM
I think if I was concerned, I would just go to the office and ask. Call 911?  Noy so much.
 
2013-03-16 05:37:44 PM
Freakin' mommies...
Double points for Texas wingnut conservatism.
 
2013-03-16 05:52:29 PM
I bet she has wine parties. A lot of them are probably her alone.
 
2013-03-16 06:03:50 PM

Clint_Torres: I bet she has wine parties. A lot of them are probably her alone.


She probably drank a whole box that day.  I bet when the cop stated that they had been pulling a body out of the lake, that he was one more comment from her before the cuffs would've came out.  I wish he had.
 
2013-03-16 06:21:58 PM

D2theMcV: No one has done this yet? Really?


Some friends and I got into a big flame war with some of her associates who were defending her on her FB fan page..  Needless to say, the page no longer exists.

SUCCESS!!!!

My only regret is not getting a screenshot of the epic threads we had going on.  Some delusional folks out there in Cypress, TX.
 
2013-03-16 06:25:17 PM

Mikey1969: Zelron: You're more likely to use a car for its intended purpose than have an accident.  With a gun it's the other way around, you're more likely to hurt yourself or someone else in the house than you are to actually protect yourself.

Sorry, bullshiat "statistic" is bullshiat.


Calling it bullshiat doesn't make it bullshiat.  You are, in fact, more likely to injure yourself or someone else than you are likely to protect you or someone else.

And this is reason one why I don't want them in my house.  I don't want to be this dad, mother, or child.  As much as I respect firearms and treat every one as loaded, never point them at anything I don't want to shoot and kill, the potential damage caused by one slip up is...sad.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/15/adam-bass-dead-baby-shot-te nn essee_n_2882213.html
 
2013-03-16 06:26:34 PM

Zelron: I'm not so paranoid that I have to carry around a 9mm penis enhancer.


They're penis enhancers?  Then why doesn't my wife walk bow-legged?

i135.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-16 06:29:19 PM
What a paranoid, delusional, minority-phobe might look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXo7SWMOvaw
 
2013-03-16 06:30:07 PM

Zelron: StoPPeRmobile: You are just scared because you don't want to fire an armed teacher.

Nope, I'm not.  I'm actually suffer from depression and frankly wish someone would put me out of my misery every day.  I take medicine for it but it just takes the edge off.  I sometimes think about jumping in front of the train on my way to work, but that'd be inconsiderate to my family and to the driver and to the people trying to get to work.

So no, I'm not afraid of firing an armed teacher.


If teachers are so unstable and you don't want to commit suicide but still want to die, I don't understand why you wouldn't WANT them to have guns, so you can be really rude when you fire them.
 
2013-03-16 06:31:06 PM

kim jong-un: Zelron: Giltric: You almost sound like the paranoid mom in the article.

I'm not so paranoid that I have to carry around a 9mm penis enhancer.

And there it is. Sorry, first to reference penis in a gun thread loses. Sorry, but that's the rule.


Not if someone calls me paranoid for not wanting to walk around with a 9mm penis enhancer on my hip.  He started it by calling my sanity into question.  So fark off.
 
2013-03-16 06:32:16 PM

HeartBurnKid: Oh, and if this mom had a pistol in her purse, the janitor would most likely be dead.  But sure, let's use this as an argument for more guns.



She was armed with the multi-ton guided missile she drove her kids to day-care in, so why couldn't she have used that?
 
2013-03-16 06:34:12 PM

TwowheelinTim: Yeah, I know, you don't need it or want it, but I can't help but feel sorry for you. I can't begin to imagine your torment.


All I can say is that I know that there are people out there who are much worse off than I am.  I get by.  Love my kids, my wife, my family.
 
2013-03-16 06:35:15 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Zelron: I'm not so paranoid that I have to carry around a 9mm penis enhancer.

They're penis enhancers?  Then why doesn't my wife walk bow-legged?

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I don't know, maybe she keeps it hidden in that special place.  You brought your wife into this, not me!  :)
 
2013-03-16 06:39:15 PM
At least our culture of fear can be mildly entertaining at times.
 
2013-03-16 06:45:20 PM

Zelron: Secret Master of All Flatulence: Zelron: I'm not so paranoid that I have to carry around a 9mm penis enhancer.

They're penis enhancers?  Then why doesn't my wife walk bow-legged?

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I don't know, maybe she keeps it hidden in that special place.  You brought your wife into this, not me!  :)


Hell, she complains about the weight of her CZ-75.  Somehow, I don't see her carrying a 26 pound GPMG plus the antiaircraft tripod.  Hell, the damned GPMG is both taller and wider than her!  And jokes about my wife don't bother me...I know she's wonderful, and don't care what anybody else thinks.  ;)
 
2013-03-16 07:34:25 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: John the Magnificent: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Are you telling me that 9/11 didn't change everything?

9/11 changed everything...


You mean peeled away the veneer and showed us to be the pussies with machine guns that the world knew we were?
 
2013-03-16 08:22:44 PM

The_Time_Master: The_Gallant_Gallstone: John the Magnificent: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Are you telling me that 9/11 didn't change everything?

9/11 changed everything...

You mean peeled away the veneer and showed us to be the pussies with terrified of machine guns that the world knew we were?

 
2013-03-16 08:27:34 PM

Zelron: He started it by calling my sanity into question.



You did claim depression and suicidal thoughts didn't you?

http://www.fark.com/comments/7647624/83070197#c83070197

Your sanity is in question.
 
2013-03-16 09:07:12 PM

Zelron: Calling it bullshiat doesn't make it bullshiat.  You are, in fact, more likely to injure yourself or someone else than you are likely to protect you or someone else.


The reason that it's a bullshiat statistic is that you are more likely to stab yourself in the eye with a pencil if you have pencils laying around, or cut yourself with a knife if you have knives laying around. Injure yourself with a power saw if you have one, electrocute yourself if your house has electricity, the list can go on. It's bullshiat because it can apply to ANYTHING people have around them, but the anti gun people would rather selectively apply it and pretend like it means something other than the fact that having ANYTHING around increases your chances of getting injured with it.

It's just cherry-picking data to fit the results you want, that's all.
 
2013-03-16 10:11:12 PM

The Ghost of Tom Ace: What a paranoid, delusional, minority-phobe might look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXo7SWMOvaw


Just the fact that she shot her stupid video with her phone and held it vertically is reason enough to mock her.

Also, I love the comments section of the video where someone called her out because of the race of the cleaning crew dude.  Her defense is the article doesn't state the race of the guy, therefore she can't be racist!  How farking stupid is that?!?!?  She won't say what the race of the guy is in her comments, but I'll bet a week's salary he was black or hispanic.
 
2013-03-16 11:04:24 PM

Big_Doofus: The Ghost of Tom Ace: What a paranoid, delusional, minority-phobe might look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXo7SWMOvaw

Just the fact that she shot her stupid video with her phone and held it vertically is reason enough to mock her.

Also, I love the comments section of the video where someone called her out because of the race of the cleaning crew dude.  Her defense is the article doesn't state the race of the guy, therefore she can't be racist!  How farking stupid is that?!?!?  She won't say what the race of the guy is in her comments, but I'll bet a week's salary he was black or hispanic.


Exactly.  And yeah, that was me that called her out on her video.  This woman's sister and I had quite a few words on her FB fan page earlier today.  Sadly, it no longer exists (yeah I did that too) but she was a raging coont and basically sold her family out on being a bunch of a-holes when she insinuated that I lived in a crappy part of town and was probably used to encounters with suspicious people like the guy in the article.  At the time I didn't know they were related, but when she followed me onto youtube I saw that she had the same last name (on FB she uses her first and middle name).  That's why I think this lady felt compelled to finally speak for herself - knowing that I figured out her relation to that other dumb broad.  I guess to defend her reputation or whatever.
 
2013-03-17 01:59:15 AM
 

The Ghost of Tom Ace: Exactly. And yeah, that was me that called her out on her video.


this is from her comment 6 hours ago: Anyone inside of a school calling 911 who feels in danger should be priority #1.

really anyone who feels in danger becomes priority #1. good lord is this woman self centered. and wants us to be the same.

with any luck she will get a bill from the police for a nuisancecall.
 
2013-03-17 02:11:28 AM
Curious:
with any luck she will get a bill from the police for a nuisancecall.

Oh that would just be fantastic.  Sadly, this woman's sister is still trying to stalk/menace me via facebook; sending me messages, replying to posts from a year ago that I made on public sites...   (She's the one that made the most recent comment).

She encourages the publicity, claiming that any publicity is good publicity.  Do you think that holds true for a field like real estate?  I almost want to buy a TF account just to try to submit a farkus followup to this article, telling my story from today in regards to this delusional nutjob.  It was pretty entertaining for me.
 
2013-03-17 02:35:10 AM

The Ghost of Tom Ace: Do you think that holds true for a field like real estate?


i would think not, at least for high end stuff.
 
2013-03-17 02:47:12 AM

Curious: The Ghost of Tom Ace: Do you think that holds true for a field like real estate?

i would think not, at least for high end stuff.


"I think I'll google my prospective real estate agent... Hmm... what's this fark.com site all about"?
 
2013-03-17 06:58:48 AM

The Ghost of Tom Ace: Curious:
with any luck she will get a bill from the police for a nuisancecall.

Oh that would just be fantastic.  Sadly, this woman's sister is still trying to stalk/menace me via facebook; sending me messages, replying to posts from a year ago that I made on public sites...   (She's the one that made the most recent comment).

She encourages the publicity, claiming that any publicity is good publicity.  Do you think that holds true for a field like real estate?  I almost want to buy a TF account just to try to submit a farkus followup to this article, telling my story from today in regards to this delusional nutjob.  It was pretty entertaining for me.


I still find it hard to believe that people spend time with all these media sites just to stalk others or justify their own behavior; it's no wonder their kids are all f*cked up.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-17 11:07:49 AM

kim jong-un: Zelron: Giltric: You almost sound like the paranoid mom in the article.

I'm not so paranoid that I have to carry around a 9mm penis enhancer.

And there it is. Sorry, first to reference penis in a gun thread loses. Sorry, but that's the rule.


Damn straight, here's the rule.
/loss of argument, flag on the play, and a 15 yard penalty.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-17 11:10:30 AM

The_Time_Master: The_Gallant_Gallstone: John the Magnificent: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Are you telling me that 9/11 didn't change everything?

9/11 changed everything...

You mean peeled away the veneer and showed us to be the pussies with machine guns that the world knew we were?


Speak for yourself, pal.

/sorry to hear you are so scaredy-cat
 
2013-03-17 06:48:02 PM

Big_Doofus: The Ghost of Tom Ace: What a paranoid, delusional, minority-phobe might look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXo7SWMOvaw

Just the fact that she shot her stupid video with her phone and held it vertically is reason enough to mock her.

Also, I love the comments section of the video where someone called her out because of the race of the cleaning crew dude.  Her defense is the article doesn't state the race of the guy, therefore she can't be racist!  How farking stupid is that?!?!?  She won't say what the race of the guy is in her comments, but I'll bet a week's salary he was black or hispanic.


My cousin read the police report to me.  You would win the bet (but you wouldn't get any takers)
 
2013-03-17 07:38:34 PM

gja: John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Many of us still are. I don't cocoon my daughter this way.
CSB:
I went to a shop that I didn't want my daughter to come with me to, and since it was my day to have her there was no options.
Left her in the car, with the door locked. 3 minutes later some dumb blonde is in my grill blabbing about "..you left her in that car alone?... etc/soforth"
Finally got a word in edgewise, motioned for my kid to roll down her window and told her to tell the woman what I taught her.
My kid holds up my 5D-cell maglight and says "daddy told me if anyone messes with us I'm allowed to knock their brains out!".
Stupid blonde just stands there with her pie-hole hung open and walks slowly away.
I say "that's daddy's girl, wanna get Carvel?"
/CSB

Not all of us are pansies.


Reminded me of this : ( Adult language, by the way.)
img.youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2tc9e8-iE
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-17 11:18:17 PM

70Ford: gja: John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Many of us still are. I don't cocoon my daughter this way.
CSB:
I went to a shop that I didn't want my daughter to come with me to, and since it was my day to have her there was no options.
Left her in the car, with the door locked. 3 minutes later some dumb blonde is in my grill blabbing about "..you left her in that car alone?... etc/soforth"
Finally got a word in edgewise, motioned for my kid to roll down her window and told her to tell the woman what I taught her.
My kid holds up my 5D-cell maglight and says "daddy told me if anyone messes with us I'm allowed to knock their brains out!".
Stupid blonde just stands there with her pie-hole hung open and walks slowly away.
I say "that's daddy's girl, wanna get Carvel?"
/CSB

Not all of us are pansies.

Reminded me of this : ( Adult language, by the way.)
[img.youtube.com image 480x360]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2tc9e8-iE


HAHAHA. I would buy THAT. Hell I bet I could teach her how to use that thing.
 
2013-03-17 11:36:58 PM

gja: John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Many of us still are. I don't cocoon my daughter this way.
CSB:
I went to a shop that I didn't want my daughter to come with me to, and since it was my day to have her there was no options.
Left her in the car, with the door locked. 3 minutes later some dumb blonde is in my grill blabbing about "..you left her in that car alone?... etc/soforth"
Finally got a word in edgewise, motioned for my kid to roll down her window and told her to tell the woman what I taught her.
My kid holds up my 5D-cell maglight and says "daddy told me if anyone messes with us I'm allowed to knock their brains out!".
Stupid blonde just stands there with her pie-hole hung open and walks slowly away.
I say "that's daddy's girl, wanna get Carvel?"
/CSB

Not all of us are pansies.


So, you knew it was your day to have your daughter and you could not put off going to the porn store?  Yeah, not a cool story, bro.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-18 06:12:17 PM

Mock26: gja: John the Magnificent: When I was young Americans were thought of as courageous.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU PEOPLE?

Many of us still are. I don't cocoon my daughter this way.
CSB:
I went to a shop that I didn't want my daughter to come with me to, and since it was my day to have her there was no options.
Left her in the car, with the door locked. 3 minutes later some dumb blonde is in my grill blabbing about "..you left her in that car alone?... etc/soforth"
Finally got a word in edgewise, motioned for my kid to roll down her window and told her to tell the woman what I taught her.
My kid holds up my 5D-cell maglight and says "daddy told me if anyone messes with us I'm allowed to knock their brains out!".
Stupid blonde just stands there with her pie-hole hung open and walks slowly away.
I say "that's daddy's girl, wanna get Carvel?"
/CSB

Not all of us are pansies.

So, you knew it was your day to have your daughter and you could not put off going to the porn store?  Yeah, not a cool story, bro.


Yup, electrical supply porn. Romex, connectors, some NMEC, some wire-nuts, and lost of money evacuated from my account......
/copper based products are effing ridiculously expensive these days, dammit
 
2013-03-19 04:01:58 PM

titwrench: aharown: MikeSass: It took the cops 16 minuters to get there...now you know why having responsible citizens carry guns is a good idea.

Oh my little troll, how I've missed you so.

So now a troll is anyone that makes a statement you may not agree with?


Not really a troll, just some woefully unable to read the article.
 
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