REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.[i.i.com.com image 480x360]
REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
IvanTheSilent: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.[i.i.com.com image 480x360]She's like Romney. Smarmy, aloof, obnoxious, very easy to hate. The reason that Obama, Biden, and (gag) even GW Bush were likable is they had a charm about them. Obama always reminds me of a laid-back college professor (perhaps because he was one,) the type of professor that you don't mind going to his class and would hang out with outside of school. Biden reminds me of the crazy uncle that everyone likes because he keeps the kids occupied with fart jokes and magic tricks. Bush reminds me of the frat boy who, despite screwing everything up all the time, was always good for a laugh. All three are folks who, to use what's becoming a major cliche, "you'd have a beer with." Romney and Pelosi, no so much. They're easy to hate because not only are they different, but they're snobbish about it too.
Summoner101: There is no length of party prosperity that the GOP can't rewrite out of their history. These are the people that disacknowledge eight years of Bush.
King Something: Bennie Crabtree: Altitude5280: [img.photobucket.com image 799x567]Invited.Is that Tina Fey?Whoever it is, she's got Peg Bundy hair.
wildcardjack: [www.colbertnewshub.com image 697x393]If only I could remember that name. What was it? Glove?
HeartBurnKid: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.Simple; she's good at her job, and she's not on their side.
Esc7: It's so depressing that they're revolt against Michelle Obama now means celebrating being a fatass. Promoting SODA?
Jim_Callahan: quickdraw: Yeah we get it - she's a mature woman not a good old boy or bimbo. FWIW it only seems to be white males who don't like her and think she is uppity or "snobbish." To women she just looks like somebody trying to get shiat done.Well, somebody appears to know less than nothing about district 12. While I wouldn't insult her by calling their levels of skill or dedication comparable, she's basically in her seat for the same reason Rick Perry is in his: party machine politics. She's an east-coast blue-blood from a political family that leveraged family and personal connections to grab a DNC seat, the connections from that to grab regional Party Chair, and her position there to grab the nomination to a "sure" district (at the time the 5th, now it's numbered 12). This, as well as her seats as speaker, whip and minority leader, is a big part of the reason why she makes a very good symbol of the party as a whole where Obama really isn't.Obama's a guy who more or less won local against the grain of the usual line of succession and then supplanted the machine candidate in the primary (Mrs. Clinton) and went on to win the general against a well-regarded establishment candidate who seemed to genuinely respect him. He's subsequently built his cabinet in a bipartisan fashion, refrained from the traditional partisan management purge, and compromised quite regularly with his opposition on various bills. This is the other reason why Pelosi gets to be the dart-board for anti-party hate, the President, the guy who would normally represent the party, is very obviously not really a party man (especially in contrast to the last guy).So... there's the actual, real answer why Pelosi gets to absorb the party hate.//TL;DR version: 1. It's her job as whip/speaker/party lead, 2. She is a good old boy, 3. Obama is not a good target if you want a symbol of the Dem. party so she's second choice.
BolloxReader: What we need is for the Green Party or something like it to claim the territory of progressives, one that focuses on anti-corporatism...
BolloxReader: INeedAName: It's amazing how prophetic 'The West Wing' was. There was a scene where Josh Lyman was trying to get some legislation done with a moderate Republican but the Democratic leadership wasn't on board so they sunk it. The Republican basically said 'if you won't work with moderates, the party will shift farther right to gain votes.' It worries me to know there is still a 'farther right' that the party could go and we'll all be worse off for it.We really need a third party that is perfectly moderate allowing Dems to sit farther left on social issues, business regulation, and the environment while the Repubs work the 'moral' issues on things like abortion, bigotry, and prejudice. This would free up the third party to garner most of the votes and let some politicians who aren't far enough for either party to come in out of the cold.Democrats can't go left. They have to be the party of moderates. Remove the Blue Dogs and they don't have the numbers to get anything done. What we need is for the Green Party or something like it to claim the territory of progressives, one that focuses on anti-corporatism, rolling back impediments to personal liberties ("free speech zones," parade licenses, warrantless wiretapping, pretty much all of the PATRIOT ACT) and promoting local and state reforms that permit experimentation with green tech.
stoli n coke: Please. They started doing the "we never really liked him, anyway" bit about 10 minutes after Karl Rove's meltdown on election night.
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