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2013-03-16 07:39:48 AM
www.colbertnewshub.com


If only I could remember that name. What was it? Glove?
 
2013-03-16 07:40:38 AM
There is no length of party prosperity that the GOP can't rewrite out of their history.  These are the people that disacknowledge eight years of Bush.
 
2013-03-16 07:44:36 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-16 07:45:43 AM
Of course not.

0xdb.org

He's been made an unperson.
 
2013-03-16 07:46:41 AM
How were they supposed to film an empty suit?
 
2013-03-16 07:49:03 AM
Please. They started doing the "we never really liked him, anyway" bit about 10 minutes after Karl Rove's meltdown on election night.
 
2013-03-16 07:53:47 AM
Funny thing is that I bet all the people that notice that voted for him, but are now playing the W card.

farking lowlifes.
 
2013-03-16 07:54:57 AM
And how much of Donald Trump did they air?  Bobby Jinal has his work cut out for him.
 
2013-03-16 07:55:11 AM

stoli n coke: Please. They started doing the "we never really liked him, anyway" bit about 10 minutes after Karl Rove's meltdown on election night.


They're working to find the right clone right now but will still be surprised when they lose the next election. They've gotten way too concerned with "sticking to my values" (Thanks Dubya). Result: they find people the far right finds acceptable but have drifted away from choices that are electable.

Pander some you dolts. That's what politics has always been about. None of us believe you slimy pols are some higher form of intelligent life so you can drop the charade.
 
2013-03-16 07:55:24 AM
The Soviet Union used a similar style in referring to it's disgraced former leaders.

Just deny that they ever existed in the first place.
 
2013-03-16 07:56:17 AM
It's that thing you use to help you catch the ball in baseball?
 
2013-03-16 07:57:15 AM
He was just trying to be the face of the party, he doesn't actually have anything meaningful to contribute.
 
2013-03-16 07:58:18 AM
Fox is there to make republicans feel good about themselves. Mitt doesn't do that, so he's been shelved. Pretty simple.
 
2013-03-16 08:03:08 AM
I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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2013-03-16 08:10:00 AM

Summoner101: There is no length of party prosperity that the GOP can't rewrite out of their history.  These are the people that disacknowledge eight years of Bush.


Unless you mention Bush, then they go into Bush rage defense mode and then claim they always hated him.

Or they scream how we need to move on from the past and stop addressing past presidents but let me tell you about that screwup Carter!
 
2013-03-16 08:12:05 AM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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Watch the threads here. Generally speaking, they really start foaming at the mouth over some perceived evil act by a person. The issue at hand becomes secondary, and is soon forgotten.

Like the Feinstein thread yesterday.
 
2013-03-16 08:13:07 AM
Fox News doesn't talk about Mitt Romney for the same reasons Harold Hill doesn't broadcast his whereabouts to Iowans
 
2013-03-16 08:13:59 AM
Fox News avoided the CPAC speech completely, focusing instead on a Michael Moore blog post, Benghazi and the Steubenville rape case

They must really like rape.
 
2013-03-16 08:14:51 AM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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Simple, she's an outspoken liberal woman from San Francisco who holds power. Similar to their hate boner for Hillary.
 
2013-03-16 08:15:14 AM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.


Outspoken liberal woman willing to correct a man in public.
 
2013-03-16 08:15:48 AM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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Just out of curiosity, does he have any pro-Boehner or pro-McConnell stickers? And do you live in California?

It's one thing to oppose an idea, it's another thing to offer an alternative.
 
2013-03-16 08:16:11 AM
Why are there republicans?
 
2013-03-16 08:18:27 AM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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She's like Romney.  Smarmy, aloof, obnoxious, very easy to hate.  The reason that Obama, Biden, and (gag) even GW Bush were likable is they had a charm about them.  Obama always reminds me of a laid-back college professor (perhaps because he was one,) the type of professor that you don't mind going to his class and would hang out with outside of school.  Biden reminds me of the crazy uncle that everyone likes because he keeps the kids occupied with fart jokes and magic tricks.  Bush reminds me of the frat boy who, despite screwing everything up all the time, was always good for a laugh.  All three are folks who, to use what's becoming a major cliche, "you'd have a beer with."  Romney and Pelosi, no so much.  They're easy to hate because not only are they different, but they're snobbish about it too.
 
2013-03-16 08:37:59 AM
It's amazing how prophetic 'The West Wing' was. There was a scene where Josh Lyman was trying to get some legislation done with a moderate Republican but the Democratic leadership wasn't on board so they sunk it. The Republican basically said 'if you won't work with moderates, the party will shift farther right to gain votes.' It worries me to know there is still a 'farther right' that the party could go and we'll all be worse off for it.

We really need a third party that is perfectly moderate allowing Dems to sit farther left on social issues, business regulation, and the environment while the Repubs work the 'moral' issues on things like abortion, bigotry, and prejudice. This would free up the third party to garner most of the votes and let some politicians who aren't far enough for either party to come in out of the cold.
 
2013-03-16 08:45:15 AM
Fox News was never warm to Romney they just had a fark it this is the best hope for beating Obama thing going on. They hated all the libbby Massachusetts stuff he did.
 
2013-03-16 08:48:33 AM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.


I can only speak for myself.  I get the impression from listening to her that she believes she is part of some contrived aristocratic class, lording over and talking down to the unwashed masses.
 
2013-03-16 08:50:32 AM

INeedAName: It's amazing how prophetic 'The West Wing' was. There was a scene where Josh Lyman was trying to get some legislation done with a moderate Republican but the Democratic leadership wasn't on board so they sunk it. The Republican basically said 'if you won't work with moderates, the party will shift farther right to gain votes.' It worries me to know there is still a 'farther right' that the party could go and we'll all be worse off for it.

We really need a third party that is perfectly moderate allowing Dems to sit farther left on social issues, business regulation, and the environment while the Repubs work the 'moral' issues on things like abortion, bigotry, and prejudice. This would free up the third party to garner most of the votes and let some politicians who aren't far enough for either party to come in out of the cold.


Democrats can't go left. They have to be the party of moderates. Remove the Blue Dogs and they don't have the numbers to get anything done. What we need is for the Green Party or something like it to claim the territory of progressives, one that focuses on anti-corporatism, rolling back impediments to personal liberties ("free speech zones," parade licenses, warrantless wiretapping, pretty much all of the PATRIOT ACT) and promoting local and state reforms that permit experimentation with green tech.
 
2013-03-16 08:59:23 AM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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Right wing radio has been killing her for years, when Bush was clearly an incompetent and they needed a scapegoat for his failures they blamed it all on her and Barney Frank. If you are wondering what Barney did, supposedly he was solely responsible for the mortgage crisis. If they had a listener who said it had to be more complex then that they would respond, "O yeah, and Chris Dodd and poor people".
 
2013-03-16 09:02:18 AM

BolloxReader: INeedAName: It's amazing how prophetic 'The West Wing' was. There was a scene where Josh Lyman was trying to get some legislation done with a moderate Republican but the Democratic leadership wasn't on board so they sunk it. The Republican basically said 'if you won't work with moderates, the party will shift farther right to gain votes.' It worries me to know there is still a 'farther right' that the party could go and we'll all be worse off for it.

We really need a third party that is perfectly moderate allowing Dems to sit farther left on social issues, business regulation, and the environment while the Repubs work the 'moral' issues on things like abortion, bigotry, and prejudice. This would free up the third party to garner most of the votes and let some politicians who aren't far enough for either party to come in out of the cold.

Democrats can't go left. They have to be the party of moderates. Remove the Blue Dogs and they don't have the numbers to get anything done. What we need is for the Green Party or something like it to claim the territory of progressives, one that focuses on anti-corporatism, rolling back impediments to personal liberties ("free speech zones," parade licenses, warrantless wiretapping, pretty much all of the PATRIOT ACT) and promoting local and state reforms that permit experimentation with green tech.


Sure... if the Green Party could get itself together. We would actually be better off with the Dems moving left and taking over for the Green Party leaving a moderate chunk of the populace to win over. It's easier to gain votes in the middle than on the wings.
 
2013-03-16 09:17:50 AM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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Because Fox News told them to be obsessed with Nancy Pelosi after she became Speaker.
 
2013-03-16 09:26:02 AM

BolloxReader: What we need is for the Green Party or something like it to claim the territory of progressives, one that focuses on anti-corporatism...


That would be great, if it weren't flat-out impossible to get elected in this country without corporate money.

The fact of it is, the rot goes so deep that the only way to fix it is to tear down the whole thing and rebuild from scratch. And that simply is not going to happen.
 
2013-03-16 09:30:48 AM

IvanTheSilent: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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She's like Romney.  Smarmy, aloof, obnoxious, very easy to hate.  The reason that Obama, Biden, and (gag) even GW Bush were likable is they had a charm about them.  Obama always reminds me of a laid-back college professor (perhaps because he was one,) the type of professor that you don't mind going to his class and would hang out with outside of school.  Biden reminds me of the crazy uncle that everyone likes because he keeps the kids occupied with fart jokes and magic tricks.  Bush reminds me of the frat boy who, despite screwing everything up all the time, was always good for a laugh.  All three are folks who, to use what's becoming a major cliche, "you'd have a beer with."  Romney and Pelosi, no so much.  They're easy to hate because not only are they different, but they're snobbish about it too.


Yeah we get it - she's a mature woman not a good old boy or bimbo. FWIW it only seems to be white males who don't like her and think she is uppity or "snobbish." 
To women she just looks like somebody trying to get shiat done.
 
2013-03-16 09:30:48 AM
I can only hope that they give Sarah Palin the same treatment....
 
2013-03-16 09:36:40 AM
Romney needs his momney.
 
2013-03-16 09:38:44 AM
Fox News avoided the CPAC speech completely, focusing instead on a Michael Moore blog post, Benghazi and the Steubenville rape case.

To be fair, even in their complete irrelevance to anything whatsoever, all of these things are still more relevant than Mitt Romney, somehow.  Even when he was currently a presidential candidate the dude was barely relevant to anything (it being an attempt to unseat a relatively well-regarded incumbent in an improving economy mostly implicitly blamed on the other party even by members of said other party).

Dude's got, like... negative notability somehow.  His lack of relevance or anything interesting to add to any discussion is almost fascinating in itself, which I'm pretty sure makes him a logical paradox.
 
2013-03-16 09:42:02 AM

quickdraw: IvanTheSilent: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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She's like Romney.  Smarmy, aloof, obnoxious, very easy to hate.  The reason that Obama, Biden, and (gag) even GW Bush were likable is they had a charm about them.  Obama always reminds me of a laid-back college professor (perhaps because he was one,) the type of professor that you don't mind going to his class and would hang out with outside of school.  Biden reminds me of the crazy uncle that everyone likes because he keeps the kids occupied with fart jokes and magic tricks.  Bush reminds me of the frat boy who, despite screwing everything up all the time, was always good for a laugh.  All three are folks who, to use what's becoming a major cliche, "you'd have a beer with."  Romney and Pelosi, no so much.  They're easy to hate because not only are they different, but they're snobbish about it too.

Yeah we get it - she's a mature woman not a good old boy or bimbo. FWIW it only seems to be white males who don't like her and think she is uppity or "snobbish." 
To women she just looks like somebody trying to get shiat done.


Nice try. Voted and volunteered for Hillary in PA, and think Pelosi, Boxer and DiFi too, are coonts.
 
2013-03-16 09:42:41 AM

stoli n coke: Please. They started doing the "we never really liked him, anyway" bit about 10 minutes after Karl Rove's meltdown on election night.


Romney's body hadn't even hit the ground yet after the election was called and the Fox pundits were already saying "This is what happens when you put up a liberal RINO instead of a True Conservative"
 
2013-03-16 09:46:19 AM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.


Simple; she's good at her job, and she's not on their side.
 
2013-03-16 09:51:06 AM
Coffee's Media coverage is for closers only.
 
2013-03-16 09:59:36 AM

quickdraw: Yeah we get it - she's a mature woman not a good old boy or bimbo. FWIW it only seems to be white males who don't like her and think she is uppity or "snobbish." 
To women she just looks like somebody trying to get shiat done.


Well, somebody appears to know less than nothing about district 12.  While I wouldn't insult her by calling their levels of skill or dedication comparable, she's basically in her seat for the same reason Rick Perry is in his: party machine politics.  She's an east-coast blue-blood from a political family that leveraged family and personal connections to grab a DNC seat, the connections from that to grab regional Party Chair, and her position there to grab the nomination to a "sure" district (at the time the 5th, now it's numbered 12).  This, as well as her seats as speaker, whip and minority leader, is a big part of the reason why she makes a very good symbol of the party as a whole where Obama really isn't.

Obama's a guy who more or less won local against the grain of the usual line of succession and then  supplanted the machine candidate in the primary (Mrs. Clinton) and went on to win the general against a well-regarded establishment candidate who seemed to genuinely respect him.  He's subsequently built his cabinet in a bipartisan fashion, refrained from the traditional partisan management purge, and compromised quite regularly with his opposition on various bills.  This is the other reason why Pelosi gets to be the dart-board for anti-party hate, the President, the guy who would normally represent the party, is very obviously not really a party man (especially in contrast to the last guy).

So... there's the actual, real answer why Pelosi gets to absorb the party hate.

//TL;DR version: 1. It's her job as whip/speaker/party lead, 2. She  is a good old boy, 3. Obama is not a good target if you want a symbol of the Dem. party so she's second choice.
 
2013-03-16 10:05:00 AM

Jim_Callahan: quickdraw: Yeah we get it - she's a mature woman not a good old boy or bimbo. FWIW it only seems to be white males who don't like her and think she is uppity or "snobbish." 
To women she just looks like somebody trying to get shiat done.

Well, somebody appears to know less than nothing about district 12.  While I wouldn't insult her by calling their levels of skill or dedication comparable, she's basically in her seat for the same reason Rick Perry is in his: party machine politics.  She's an east-coast blue-blood from a political family that leveraged family and personal connections to grab a DNC seat, the connections from that to grab regional Party Chair, and her position there to grab the nomination to a "sure" district (at the time the 5th, now it's numbered 12).  This, as well as her seats as speaker, whip and minority leader, is a big part of the reason why she makes a very good symbol of the party as a whole where Obama really isn't.

Obama's a guy who more or less won local against the grain of the usual line of succession and then  supplanted the machine candidate in the primary (Mrs. Clinton) and went on to win the general against a well-regarded establishment candidate who seemed to genuinely respect him.  He's subsequently built his cabinet in a bipartisan fashion, refrained from the traditional partisan management purge, and compromised quite regularly with his opposition on various bills.  This is the other reason why Pelosi gets to be the dart-board for anti-party hate, the President, the guy who would normally represent the party, is very obviously not really a party man (especially in contrast to the last guy).

So... there's the actual, real answer why Pelosi gets to absorb the party hate.

//TL;DR version: 1. It's her job as whip/speaker/party lead, 2. She  is a good old boy, 3. Obama is not a good target if you want a symbol of the Dem. party so she's second choice.


Not like any of that's stopped people from targeting Obama anyway. I mean, have you seen the right-wing derposphere?
 
2013-03-16 10:19:59 AM

quickdraw: IvanTheSilent: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
[i.i.com.com image 480x360]

She's like Romney.  Smarmy, aloof, obnoxious, very easy to hate.  The reason that Obama, Biden, and (gag) even GW Bush were likable is they had a charm about them.  Obama always reminds me of a laid-back college professor (perhaps because he was one,) the type of professor that you don't mind going to his class and would hang out with outside of school.  Biden reminds me of the crazy uncle that everyone likes because he keeps the kids occupied with fart jokes and magic tricks.  Bush reminds me of the frat boy who, despite screwing everything up all the time, was always good for a laugh.  All three are folks who, to use what's becoming a major cliche, "you'd have a beer with."  Romney and Pelosi, no so much.  They're easy to hate because not only are they different, but they're snobbish about it too.

Yeah we get it - she's a mature woman not a good old boy or bimbo. FWIW it only seems to be white males who don't like her and think she is uppity or "snobbish." 
To women she just looks like somebody trying to get shiat done.


Nice, implying misogyny AND a strawman, and implying that I'm white (I'm not.)  No substance, so let's go on the offensive.  Very Republican of you.  But, I'll answer you anyway.  It's not about her being a "mature woman."  It's about her being approchable, likable, and at least paying lip-service to the concept of being a citizen-servant of their constituants.  Senator Warren is a perfect example.  She's mature, intelligent, honest and outspoken.  A "Mr. Smith goes to Washington" type.  Contrast that with Senator Feinstein.  Mature, intelligent, honest, outspoken, but has an aura of "shut the hell up and do what Granny tells you to.  You're wrong because you disagree with me."  President Obama, VP Biden, Secretary Clinton, Senator Warren, Governor Christie, Ambassador Huntsman, all individuals who one can like and admire in some way.  Pelosi, like Romney, is a Klingon, alien and unapprochable, and easy to dislike because they don't even try to come across as approachable.  They both have the same air as Senator Feinstein, "I'm right and you're wrong because I am who I am."
 
2013-03-16 10:24:16 AM
Fox news is about ratings.  They use divisive politics to get this.  They have to have a villain and were probably secretly thrilled that Obama was re-elected.  Gave them four more years of fodder for their audience.  Romney never really mattered to them and certainly doesn't now.  As to the Pelosi comments above, when the democrats won back the house in 2006, they had another villain - Pelosi and that has stuck.  Again good for ratings.  Same applies to most of the right wing talk radio.
 
2013-03-16 10:34:10 AM

INeedAName: Sure... if the Green Party could get itself together. We would actually be better off with the Dems moving left and taking over for the Green Party leaving a moderate chunk of the populace to win over. It's easier to gain votes in the middle than on the wings.


I don't see that ever happening.  The Democrats are already too far to the right to ever become a liberal party.  If anything, they would become the new conservative party if the GOP imploded and the Greens or someone else would become the new left.
 
2013-03-16 10:39:07 AM
I think Douglas Adams put it best:
"Humans are not proud of their ancestors, and rarely invite them round to dinner."
 
2013-03-16 10:42:47 AM
Was Romney "blurred" like it said in TFA, which might imply an active manipulation of the video to diminish him, or just out of focus, like it looked in the screenshot?
 
2013-03-16 10:51:51 AM

SomeoneDumb: Was Romney "blurred" like it said in TFA, which might imply an active manipulation of the video to diminish him, or just out of focus, like it looked in the screenshot?


I took it to mean "They even interviewed someone else while Romney was talking, as seen by him standing in the background of this shot."
 
2013-03-16 10:54:07 AM
INeedAName:
We really need a third party that is perfectly moderate allowing Dems to sit farther left on social issues, business regulation, and the environment while the Repubs work the 'moral' issues on things like abortion, bigotry, and prejudice. This would free up the third party to garner most of the votes and let some politicians who aren't far enough for either party to come in out of the cold.

Let me introduce you to my friend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law.  In our system, you don't get a third party.
 
2013-03-16 10:58:57 AM
For once, I wish Huffpo followed Fox's lead.
 
2013-03-16 11:10:28 AM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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She got shiat done, and when you're whole schtick is "we're the party of hell no," you can see why shiat getting done is so bad.
 
2013-03-16 11:12:55 AM

GoldSpider: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.

I can only speak for myself.  I get the impression from listening to her that she believes she is part of some contrived aristocratic class, lording over and talking down to the unwashed masses.


Thank God we have the Republicans to protect us from that kind of worldview!
 
2013-03-16 11:14:35 AM

Summoner101: There is no length of party prosperity that the GOP can't rewrite out of their history.  These are the people that disacknowledge eight years of Bush.


You know, for people who claim that they couldn't possibly care less about what liberals or the MSM media or the New York Times think about them and theirs, they sure are swift to take offense at criticism and to attempt to whitewash their embarrassing past and its players.
 
2013-03-16 11:20:02 AM

Jim_Callahan: quickdraw: Yeah we get it - she's a mature woman not a good old boy or bimbo. FWIW it only seems to be white males who don't like her and think she is uppity or "snobbish." 
To women she just looks like somebody trying to get shiat done.

Well, somebody appears to know less than nothing about district 12.  While I wouldn't insult her by calling their levels of skill or dedication comparable, she's basically in her seat for the same reason Rick Perry is in his: party machine politics.  She's an east-coast blue-blood from a political family that leveraged family and personal connections to grab a DNC seat, the connections from that to grab regional Party Chair, and her position there to grab the nomination to a "sure" district (at the time the 5th, now it's numbered 12).  This, as well as her seats as speaker, whip and minority leader, is a big part of the reason why she makes a very good symbol of the party as a whole where Obama really isn't.

Obama's a guy who more or less won local against the grain of the usual line of succession and then  supplanted the machine candidate in the primary (Mrs. Clinton) and went on to win the general against a well-regarded establishment candidate who seemed to genuinely respect him.  He's subsequently built his cabinet in a bipartisan fashion, refrained from the traditional partisan management purge, and compromised quite regularly with his opposition on various bills.  This is the other reason why Pelosi gets to be the dart-board for anti-party hate, the President, the guy who would normally represent the party, is very obviously not really a party man (especially in contrast to the last guy).

So... there's the actual, real answer why Pelosi gets to absorb the party hate.

//TL;DR version: 1. It's her job as whip/speaker/party lead, 2. She  is a good old boy, 3. Obama is not a good target if you want a symbol of the Dem. party so she's second choice.


I'm not sure you understand how boys and girls work.

/Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina and institutionally-constructed obstacles to power based on gender.

//Poor boys and poor girls also have institutionally-constructed obstacles to power based on wealth, so you'd think they'd work together more often.
 
2013-03-16 11:25:57 AM

INeedAName: It's amazing how prophetic 'The West Wing' was. There was a scene where Josh Lyman was trying to get some legislation done with a moderate Republican but the Democratic leadership wasn't on board so they sunk it. The Republican basically said 'if you won't work with moderates, the party will shift farther right to gain votes.' It worries me to know there is still a 'farther right' that the party could go and we'll all be worse off for it.

We really need a third party that is perfectly moderate allowing Dems to sit farther left on social issues, business regulation, and the environment while the Repubs work the 'moral' issues on things like abortion, bigotry, and prejudice. This would free up the third party to garner most of the votes and let some politicians who aren't far enough for either party to come in out of the cold.


A moderate party would be the Dems. What you need is some representation from the left.

In every other industrialized country in the world, the Democrats would be center-right.
 
2013-03-16 11:28:33 AM
REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.

For the same reason they all hate Hillary, conservatives have an irrational fear of a powerful vag.
 
2013-03-16 11:29:02 AM
I'm spending a scintillating Satuday watching CPAC coverage. Interesting entertainment in a creepy way.
 
2013-03-16 11:47:24 AM

INeedAName: BolloxReader: INeedAName:

We really need a third party that is perfectly moderate allowing Dems to sit farther left on social issues, business regulation, and the environment while the Repubs work the 'moral' issues on things like abortion, bigotry, and prejudice. This would free up the third party to garner most of the votes and let some politicians who aren't far enough for either party to come in out of the cold.Democrats can't go left. They have to be the party of moderates. Remove the Blue Dogs and they don't have the numbers to get anything done. What we need is for the Green Party or something like it to claim the territory of progressives, one that focuses on anti-corporatism, rolling back impediments to personal liberties ("free speech zones," parade licenses, warrantless wiretapping, pretty much all of the PATRIOT ACT) and promoting local and state reforms that permit experimentation with green tech.Sure... if the Green Party could get itself together. We would actually be better off with the Dems moving left and taking over for the Green Party leaving a moderate chunk of the populace to win over. It's easier to gain votes in the middle than on the wings.

Except that the Tea Party has proven exactly the opposite, that you CAN influence the votes on the wings, the only problem was they did it inside the Republican party, instead of on the outside.

Nah, I think a third party at this point will show up left of the Democrats. That'll push the Dems further right, and the Republicans will pretty much be squashed out of history.

/I can dream can't I?
 
2013-03-16 12:16:30 PM
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2013-03-16 12:21:29 PM

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Stalin:  Ruling pixels before photoshoppin' was cool.
 
2013-03-16 12:21:31 PM

born_yesterday: Thank God we have the Republicans to protect us from that kind of worldview!


Theirs is a whole different brand of stupidity.
 
2013-03-16 12:22:23 PM

IvanTheSilent: SomeoneDumb: Was Romney "blurred" like it said in TFA, which might imply an active manipulation of the video to diminish him, or just out of focus, like it looked in the screenshot?

I took it to mean "They even interviewed someone else while Romney was talking, as seen by him standing in the background of this shot."


Good answer

/Today's Pet Peeve: Ambiguity in the English language, intentional or no
 
2013-03-16 12:28:21 PM
Fun facts: Pelosi is from Baltimore and DiFi was a rodeo queen.
 
2013-03-16 12:37:48 PM
A little bit like Farkers wanting to forget all the shiat they said on this board right after 9/11.

Humans can ignore all kinds of shiat when convenient.
 
2013-03-16 12:49:34 PM
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2013-03-16 12:58:19 PM

Altitude5280: [img.photobucket.com image 799x567]Invited.


Is that Tina Fey?
 
2013-03-16 01:18:32 PM

Bennie Crabtree: Altitude5280: [img.photobucket.com image 799x567]Invited.

Is that Tina Fey?


Whoever it is, she's got Peg Bundy hair.
 
2013-03-16 01:19:52 PM

Bennie Crabtree: Altitude5280: [img.photobucket.com image 799x567]Invited.

Is that Tina Fey?

It's actually Palin herself. I just watched her herp a derp speech on CSPAN. Joked that the ice cubes were low cal.
 
2013-03-16 01:26:07 PM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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It's hard to get people to have a deep level of hatred against lots of individuals, the message gets diluted, it's difficult to get people to focus and the individuals change a lot. It's much more efficient to get your followers to hate one specific individual who you know will be around for a long time and then associate all your other opponents with that person. It's why you see all those "X voted with Pelosi 98% of the time last year, tell X we don't want Pelosi's extremist policies in Washington".
 
2013-03-16 01:36:11 PM

Altitude5280: Bennie Crabtree: Altitude5280: [img.photobucket.com image 799x567]Invited.

Is that Tina Fey?
It's actually Palin herself. I just watched her herp a derp speech on CSPAN. Joked that the ice cubes were low cal.


It's so depressing that they're revolt against Michelle Obama now means celebrating being a fatass.  Promoting SODA?  That stuff is pure empty calories that you can suck fast down a straw mixed with an addictive chemical.  I hope the idiots kill themselves off with obesity.
 
2013-03-16 01:47:06 PM

Esc7: It's so depressing that they're revolt against Michelle Obama now means celebrating being a fatass. Promoting SODA?


Yep.  Promoting soda.  And half of the country will applaud them for taking a stand against the n*gger.

/(Yeah, we know Obama had nothing to do with the attempted New York ban, but we have functional frontal lobes)
 
2013-03-16 02:13:02 PM

GoldSpider: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.

I can only speak for myself.  I get the impression from listening to her that she believes she is part of some contrived aristocratic class, lording over and talking down to the unwashed masses.


That's a pretty accurate description of the Republican Party.
 
2013-03-16 02:28:50 PM

Esc7: It's so depressing that they're revolt against Michelle Obama now means celebrating being a fatass.  Promoting SODA?  That stuff is pure empty calories that you can suck fast down a straw mixed with an addictive chemical.  I hope the idiots kill themselves off with obesity.


Yknow, Palin might be a lot of things ending in "ass", not the least of which being "dumb", but "fat" is not one of them.

I suppose you support Bloomberg's law too?
 
2013-03-16 02:56:37 PM

Hillbilly Jim: Nice try. Voted and volunteered for Hillary in PA, and think Pelosi, Boxer and DiFi too, are coonts.


What about Hilldawgs personality separates her from Pelosi? They're both - and I mean this as a compliment - ballbusters. As a woman in a man's environment you have to be twice as strong as the men. This is frequently misconstrued as "b*tch." Both Clinton and Pelosi share these traits and appear equally assertive. How does Pelosi differ in your opinion?
 
2013-03-16 03:14:49 PM
Coverage is for closers.
 
2013-03-16 03:35:50 PM

HeartBurnKid: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.

Simple; she's good at her job, and she's not on their side.


Yep. She's a credible threat to them. So they demonize her.
 
2013-03-16 03:44:36 PM

Evil High Priest: HeartBurnKid: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.

Simple; she's good at her job, and she's not on their side.

Yep. She's a credible threat to them. So they demonize her.


Yup, they do the same by calling Joe Biden dumb. He's apparently so dumb that he totally schooled the GOP's suposed budget expert in the VP debates.

Standard Republican projection is all that it is.
 
2013-03-16 03:53:04 PM

max_pooper: Evil High Priest: HeartBurnKid: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.

Simple; she's good at her job, and she's not on their side.

Yep. She's a credible threat to them. So they demonize her.

Yup, they do the same by calling Joe Biden dumb. He's apparently so dumb that he totally schooled the GOP's suposed budget expert in the VP debates.

Standard Republican projection is all that it is.


Yeah, Biden makes gaffes, but that is one highly intelligent man.  I'm sure as stated above, he's good for a fart joke or two, but watching the VP debate was pretty awesome.  To me anyway.
 
2013-03-16 04:39:11 PM

Summoner101: There is no length of party prosperity that the GOP can't rewrite out of their history.  These are the people that disacknowledge eight years of Bush.


They were denying that they ever called themselves "Teabaggers," about four seconds after they learned why everybody else was snickering.
 
2013-03-16 05:03:48 PM
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Big Gulp laced with what?  She looks more than a little scheisse-gesicht.
 
2013-03-16 05:13:24 PM
He was too RINOish to win.  We need a strong conservative like David Duke or Genghis Khan to win the next one.
 
2013-03-16 06:09:16 PM

lilbjorn: Big Gulp laced with what?  She looks more than a little scheisse-gesicht.


The hilariously moranic thing about Palin's stunt is that Big Gulps (trade marked by 7-Eleven) were exempt from Bloomberg's large sized soda ban.
 
2013-03-16 06:25:51 PM

King Something: Bennie Crabtree: Altitude5280: [img.photobucket.com image 799x567]Invited.

Is that Tina Fey?

Whoever it is, she's got Peg Bundy hair.


That's it.

I was trying to figure out who the former beauty queen, current grifter at large was morphing into and you just nailed it.

wildcardjack: [www.colbertnewshub.com image 697x393]

If only I could remember that name. What was it? Glove?


I wanna say... Flip? I dunno.

HeartBurnKid: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.

Simple; she's good at her job, and she's not on their side.


Also 20 plus years of Pavlovian anti-Pelosi bell ringing by RW media have a large number of low-info dogs not just salivating when they hear her name but foaming by this point.

That noted I was a little cheesed at her at the time for her "impeachment is off the table" remarks when it became obvious the Bush cabal had lied a nation into war.

Still a little pissed to be honest.

She can come across as a little stand offish at times. I've never regarded her as a "warm" women by any stretch or someone (to use the cliche) I'd "like to have a beer with", just a really effective political operator who gets things done in a world that's not always friendly to her gender. Gotta admire her for that.
 
2013-03-16 06:43:44 PM

max_pooper: lilbjorn: Big Gulp laced with what?  She looks more than a little scheisse-gesicht.

The hilariously moranic thing about Palin's stunt is that Big Gulps (trade marked by 7-Eleven) were exempt from Bloomberg's large sized soda ban.


Well. In her defense, she's a moron.

Also.

All of them.
 
2013-03-16 06:48:19 PM

quatchi: That noted I was a little cheesed at her at the time for her "impeachment is off the table" remarks when it became obvious the Bush cabal had lied a nation into war.

Still a little pissed to be honest.


Yes, quite. The Dem party is not to be trusted. Miles better than the batshiat crazy opposition, but that's faint praise.
 
2013-03-16 07:55:41 PM
Lars Larson?
 
2013-03-16 08:25:04 PM

max_pooper: lilbjorn: Big Gulp laced with what?  She looks more than a little scheisse-gesicht.

The hilariously moranic thing about Palin's stunt is that Big Gulps (trade marked by 7-Eleven) were exempt from Bloomberg's large sized soda ban.



The longer this family stays in the news, the more I realize that Trig is the smart one.
 
2013-03-17 01:39:08 AM
That's awesome. Bye, Mitt. (wave)
 
2013-03-17 05:27:01 AM
Mitts who be she?
 
2013-03-17 09:30:13 AM

IvanTheSilent: REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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She's like Romney.  Smarmy, aloof, obnoxious, very easy to hate.  The reason that Obama, Biden, and (gag) even GW Bush were likable is they had a charm about them.  Obama always reminds me of a laid-back college professor (perhaps because he was one,) the type of professor that you don't mind going to his class and would hang out with outside of school.  Biden reminds me of the crazy uncle that everyone likes because he keeps the kids occupied with fart jokes and magic tricks.  Bush reminds me of the frat boy who, despite screwing everything up all the time, was always good for a laugh.  All three are folks who, to use what's becoming a major cliche, "you'd have a beer with."  Romney and Pelosi, no so much.  They're easy to hate because not only are they different, but they're snobbish about it too.


Yup.

Americans want their politicians to have at least a little gravitas and perceived competence (i.e. the "college professor"), but they don't want them as these distant, unapproachable figures that they don't feel they could talk to if they had the chance.

It is a cliche, but "you'd have a beer with him" is a big test of being likable in US politics.  Helps that Obama is a beer homebrewer and apparently loves the stuff:

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media.townhall.com

www.delawareliberal.net
 
2013-03-17 01:32:44 PM
Did someone put acid in Palin's soda pop?
 
2013-03-17 07:23:58 PM

REO-Weedwagon: I've never gotten their obsession with Nancy Pelosi. I have a neighbor who has four anti-Pelosi stickers on his truck.
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I've never understood it either.  I remember when she said about Obamacare "First we need to pass it, THEN we'll read it."  But that's the only thing I can think of that she said that I felt wasn't that bright.  All I ever hear is that she's an idiot, that she needs to be fired, and we need to get rid of her.  But I never hear WHY.
 
2013-03-18 11:05:03 AM

The Lone Gunman: I remember when she said about Obamacare "First we need to pass it, THEN we'll read it."  But that's the only thing I can think of that she said that I felt wasn't that bright.  All I ever hear is that she's an idiot, that she needs to be fired, and we need to get rid of her.  But I never hear WHY.


The rest of that quote was about people lying about what was in the bill.  She was saying that they need to pass it so that people would know what was in it and could stop making things up.
 
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