King Something: That's the general idea. It's supposed to suck harder than your mom at a frat party.It's part of the deal that was struck in August 2011 that would have required Congress to come up with a deal to avoid it by 1 Jan of this year (and that date was punted to 1 Mar), with the plan being that they would come up with a deal in order to avoid the sequester in much the same way one would avoid driving off the Grand Canyon by not driving anywhere in the state of Arizona.Unfortunately, this meant that the Republicans would have had to agree with president Obama on something less mundane than hamburger toppings, so they deliberately and maliciously drove the country off of a cliff just because they hate the guy who said they shouldn't more than they love America.
Who thinks it bites? Ryan included the sequester in his budget, he loves it so much.
Did I say he kept it? I meant he changed it to be even more nightmarish.
cman: Conservatives feel that their ideology is fading. Like a crazed animal it is fighting back desperately.
cman: It is punishment for his reelection.Conservatives feel that their ideology is fading. Like a crazed animal it is fighting back desperately.
Emposter: Who are these idiotic 30-40+% of people who don't think cutting money from a program will hurt its ability to function? I mean, you can be against the goal of the program, that's fine. But even then, you have to admit it can do more with more money. What is there to even argue about on that?How are we ever going to fix our political system when these idiots are voting?
somedude210: I am glad to hear that Boehner is coming around though. I think we may have a shot of some deal (albeit mediocre) if he stops listening to Cantor
m00: From 2007 to 2012...Social Security $586.1 billion -> $778.574 billionDefense $548.8 billion -> $716.300 billionMedicare $394.5 billion -> $484.486 billionUnemployment/welfare $294.0 billion -> $579.578 billionmedicaid/health $276.4 billion -> $361.625 billionSo... here is what I don't get. On all health related stuff, we're spending $2700 per American in 2012. On SS/welfare, we are paying $4335 per American in 2012. For that kind of cash, we SHOULD get a fully socialized healthcare system, and full welfare coverage. I don't get where the money is going... (actually I do, lining the pockets of the rich). I mean, let's say 1/4 of the entire adult population over 18 needs welfare. We could afford to give every single one of them $23,120. You read that right. The money is there. It's just apparently getting lost somewhere in the bureaucracy. THIS is the problem.
m00: Genevieve Marie: m00: The sequester is like what... 2.4% of the budget? That's right, we can't find 2.4% of the budget to cut. The proposed increases from last year are larger than 2.4%. We're really, really screwed. Apparently, America will shut down if we don't increase our budget by a large amount from year-to-year.Fark all politicians.You should maybe read this explanation of what sequestration is in political economy terms and why it's devastating to certain programs.http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/sequestrationI know what it is. I think not-balancing-the-budget is what's going to be devastating. Federal budget in 2007 was $2.8 trillion.* Federal budget in 2012 was 3.8 trillion. We have a spending problem. You can't tell me that at the height of the Bush years, we were living frugally. Meanwhile, revenue went from 2.4 trillion to 2.6 trillion.* Note that Bush cheated and had $115 billion in emergency appropriations. But still.
heinekenftw: So the sequester is going to suck. We know that.But will Congress grow the fark up and actually work together to solve this issue?I'm not holding my breath.
The WindowLicker: Genevieve Marie: His GI Bill Benefits paid for a certain number of semesters, and that runs out after this semester. After that, he was planning to finish his final semester using the tuition assistance program through the national guard.He's been working and doing his national guard duties for the last few years as a full time student, so he had to take fewer hours than he would have liked a for a few semesters.Ouch, that is a truly unfortunate situation. They took our TA away last year for about 3 weeks before pushback caused it to be re-funded, so this was not a huge shock to us, but I am guessing this blindsided your friend. (Your friend is also a perfect example of why it is a really bad ideato use your GI bill for less than a full courseload.)
Soup4Bonnie: Zeb Hesselgresser: Well, BHO for one.LinkNowhere in your link does it say "BHO", a.k.a., the President, believes that cutting 30-40% of a program will not hurt its ability to function.Thanks for sharing the shiat that is falling out of Rush Limbaugh's orifice with the class, though. We are all dumber for it.
Zeb Hesselgresser: Well, BHO for one.Link
Soup4Bonnie: It must not be happening if it doesn't affect you.
Soup4Bonnie: Saiga410: The sequester happened? Didn't notice.It must not be happening if it doesn't affect you.
Aquapope: Remember a few weeks ago when GOP talking heads were running around claiming Obama was gloom-and-dooming the effects of the sequester? "He's just doing it for politics", they pretty much said. So now the effects are being felt... and guess what? They suck. And it's only a couple weeks into the sequester. Just wait...
Soup4Bonnie: Who thinks it bites? Ryan included the sequester in his budget, he loves it so much.Did I say he kept it? I meant he changed it to be even more nightmarish.He keeps the sequester -- a $1 trillion guillotine to non-defense and defense spending. But his breakdown of spending pushes virtually all of those cuts into non-defense categories. In other words, everything in our discretionary budget -- scientific research, housing, international relations, education, public safety, public health, environmental protection, job training -- doesn't just get a sequester. It gets a double-sequester! Plus another $250 billion in cuts, under the Ryan budget. Win the future.
themindiswatching: somedude210: I am glad to hear that Boehner is coming around though. I think we may have a shot of some deal (albeit mediocre) if he stops listening to CantorDoesn't matter who he listens to. Tea Party is going to vote no unless it screws over poor people.
King Something: agree with president Obama on something less mundane than hamburger toppings
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