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2013-03-15 05:37:42 PM  
18 votes:
It's a nice little father-son story - but I really don't get a lot of warm fuzzies out of these stories any more - they are starting to feel mundane.
And that, when you think about it, is a very, very good sign.
2013-03-15 05:51:21 PM  
8 votes:
My daughter didn't come out to me , I asked her "So were you ever going to tell me your gay?" and she got a big "gosh I don't know" smile on her face. I just told her not to worry about what people think and to just follow her heart , because it will guide her in the right direction.
2013-03-15 03:38:24 PM  
7 votes:
Damn it's dusty in here today!
2013-03-15 04:33:04 PM  
6 votes:
Parenting done right!  A rare awesome sight.
2013-03-15 05:36:25 PM  
5 votes:
So did the brat go buy orange juice or not?
2013-03-15 03:58:11 PM  
5 votes:
Doing it right.
2013-03-15 07:05:14 PM  
4 votes:

Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age

This thread has already provided anecdotal evidence to refute your baseless claim, but I'll add mine.

By six I was already getting caught hiding lingerie catalogs with scantily clad women under the bed. Of course they were found. My parents just smiled at me and said, "It's because of the boobs isn't it?"
All I could do was admit that, yeah, I like boobs. They didn't scold me or anything, just told me to stop swiping mom's magazines.

By seven I had already looked up sex in an encyclopedia and knew what all the fuss was about, and why women gave me boners.

Suffice to say when my folks decided it was time for "the talk", they weren't terribly surprised that they weren't telling me anything I didn't already know.

I didn't notice girls to much later myself. I just think its odd to look at a 6 year old and think "yep he's gay".

See, there are a lot of religiously influenced groups that would have people believe sexual orientation is a choice (and thus condemnable as sin), but weight of evidence (anecdotal or otherwise) seems to suggest a very different story of human sexual development.

Don't follow the propaganda, follow the evidence.

I don't care who or isn't gay. I just think that we shouldn't be thinking about six years olds sex orientations. Heck six year old kids shouldn't know what sex is.


Why?

Understand, I'm not advocating pedophilia, but why should six year old kids be insulated from learning, academically, a biological fact? Recall, I learned from an encyclopedia at age seven. I grew up into a man comfortable with his sexuality and did not turn into a raving sex fiend or sex offender. Are you saying I'm the exception to some rule I'm unaware of?

What exactly is it you believe you are protecting them (or civilization) from?
2013-03-15 04:51:52 PM  
4 votes:

RobertBruce: Parenting done right!

2013-03-15 04:16:03 PM  
4 votes:
Go Dad!
2013-03-15 11:32:06 PM  
3 votes:
Since we're sharing coming out stories.

A few years ago I suffered a complete mental breakdown. The struggles of living with undiagnosed and untreated OCD eventually became too much for me to keep hidden. I was hospitalized and my marriage fell apart. Eventually I was released from the hospital feeling like I had been completely torn apart. I had lost my sanity, my lively-hood, my wife, and my home. I was now left feeling very much like a newborn. I was in effect rebuilding my life from scratch.

My fear of what was going on in my head and how people would judge me made me hide my mental illness until it almost destroyed me. I had decided that I wouldn't do that any more. I came out of the closet of mental illness and it was liberating. It was now something I owned and could not be used against me.

But I was also now single, my marriage of 24 years was over. This meant I would be dating and building new personal relationships. I thought hard about that. I had regretted not ever coming to terms with the fact that I had a mental disorder before it almost destroyed me. I was now also being given a chance to look again at what else I had kept hidden. The truth is, I have always been more attracted to boys than to girls. Don't get me wrong, girls are hot and all, but for me guys are hotter. It's been that way since as long as I can remember. But like the OCD that was wrecking havoc in my brain, I felt ashamed of those feelings ever since I was a kid. It was easier to just channel my sexuality into what was socially acceptable than it was to live a life true to myself. I had decided if I could come out of the closet of my mental illness and be better for it I should do the same with my sexuality as well. So I did, to my friends.

I didn't come out to my parents though. I had figured I'd wait until I was in a relationship with someone then I'd do it. My stepbrother came out to my Mom and Stepdad though and the next weekend when I went down to visit my Mom took me aside and said "When Steve came out last week he said it was the hardest thing he ever had to do so I just wanted you to know that we know you're gay and we love you. Everyone should be free to be who they are with family".

I am out with everyone now. My friends, my kids, my parents, everyone. Nobody changed their opinion of me. Nobody loved me any less. I am truly fortunate to have lived a life where I have been able to surround myself with people who are so awesome. I wish everyone could be so lucky.
2013-03-15 06:45:34 PM  
3 votes:
When I was a kid talking on the phone to one of my friends and we suspected a parent might be listening in, we'd always try to say something shocking just to get them to admit to eavesdropping.

Just saying.
2013-03-15 06:28:29 PM  
3 votes:
I had a similar moment with my daughter when she was 15. Her mother had thrown her out because the step-Dad is, well... an A-hole, and she said to me, "Don't you get it? I'm gay!" I told her "So? Clean your damn room. It's a mess. I love you."

Always been proud of her and now she's studying to be history teacher. Dusty in here....
 Another point. This kind of stuff shouldn't be so rare that it warrants an article about it.
2013-03-15 06:19:57 PM  
3 votes:

Godscrack: This a touching story. But in the real world, not all gay people care if they have acceptance from parents.

Or anyone.


It's tough to argue that people don't want acceptance from their parents. I think most people don't let it ruin their lives if they don't, but seriously, unless you have pieces of shiate for parents or you're a sociopath, having proud parents would be a good thing.
2013-03-15 06:13:16 PM  
3 votes:
There are some good parents out there.  My cousin's kid has gender dysphoria.  The kid kept thinking she was a boy and kept asking her parents if she was going to get her boy parts when she got older.  She started talking like this when she was about 6.  They took her to the psych doctor, and the doctor said, "She has gender dysphoria.  The best thing you can do is let her dress like a boy if she wants and do boy things."  They do this. She is a good kid (unlike the "normal" ones) and is accepted by the entire family.
2013-03-15 06:12:13 PM  
3 votes:

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


Not 6, but I first met my girlfriend's nephew when he was 9.  On the drive back home, I asked her "does your brother realize his son is gay?" I mean, he was a very effeminate kid.  And loved to dance and show off his dance moves to the entire family.  My girlfriend thought I was crazy.  We met him again when he was about 14, and he came to NYC for a dance summer program at Julliard.  In my opinion, he was completely out by then.  And my girlfriend still refused to agree.  At 16 he came back to NYC to try out for Julliard, and stayed at our place since we lived near there.  First day he sat down on the couch next to us while we were watching TV, opened his laptop, and the background image was the naked torso of a big muscle dude with a huge unit.  So I turned to her and asked "Now do you believe me?"

Last I heard of him he was a successful choreographer living in Israel.  With his boyfriend.
2013-03-15 06:10:17 PM  
3 votes:

BolloxReader: buckler: dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.

When I was taking care of kids, I had one not much older who enjoyed hanging out with the girls much more than with boys, enjoyed playing hairdressing games, liked to try on jewelry and girls' hats and such, and who refused to play competitive games. He liked watching "girly" cartoons and shows. Visiting counselors would say they could easily see feather boas in his future. At some point, it becomes pretty evident. Not always, mind you, but it's fairly obvious.

He could also have been trans, which is different than being gay.


Thank you. A lot of people assume that gender identity and sexual identity go hand-in-hand, but they don't always. That's why you sometimes meet stereotypical masculine men who have never had an interest in women, and makeup-addicted drag queens who are sexually attracted to women. Hormones and brain chemistry can do all kinds of wonderful things with human gender and sexual identity. Not every man you meet with a lisp and a hip sway is gay. That's why not every gay couple has a "male" and a "female". Sometimes it's two people who got together because they both happen to be a lot alike and enjoy the same things.
2013-03-15 05:57:25 PM  
3 votes:

buckler: dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.

When I was taking care of kids, I had one not much older who enjoyed hanging out with the girls much more than with boys, enjoyed playing hairdressing games, liked to try on jewelry and girls' hats and such, and who refused to play competitive games. He liked watching "girly" cartoons and shows. Visiting counselors would say they could easily see feather boas in his future. At some point, it becomes pretty evident. Not always, mind you, but it's fairly obvious.


He could also have been trans, which is different than being gay.
2013-03-15 05:50:47 PM  
3 votes:
I have never been a big fan of homosexuality... I am probably one of those 10 percent of males that has no ability to understand the desire... That being said, I am also a father...I would like to think I am that kind of man.Inspiring story, thanks subby.
2013-03-15 05:47:55 PM  
3 votes:
Does Anita Bryant know teh gays are buying orange juice?!!?
2013-03-15 05:45:58 PM  
3 votes:

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


When I was taking care of kids, I had one not much older who enjoyed hanging out with the girls much more than with boys, enjoyed playing hairdressing games, liked to try on jewelry and girls' hats and such, and who refused to play competitive games. He liked watching "girly" cartoons and shows. Visiting counselors would say they could easily see feather boas in his future. At some point, it becomes pretty evident. Not always, mind you, but it's fairly obvious.
2013-03-15 05:45:35 PM  
3 votes:
That's a good dad. It's an uplifting little anecdote, the kind that renews your hope in humanity.

This is a good example of the unconditional love that the unholy GOP and evangelical alliance stands against. They literally stand in opposition to love. For people who claim to follow the teachings of Jesus I find this terribly ironic tragic idiotic.
2013-03-15 05:43:10 PM  
3 votes:
Fake in 3, 2, 1...
2013-03-15 05:41:15 PM  
3 votes:
Hmmm...this is too obvious. I'm calling fake.
2013-03-15 05:40:26 PM  
3 votes:
I'll feel a lot better when this is the normal reaction parents have to this sort of thing, and it doesn't become news.
2013-03-16 12:18:22 AM  
2 votes:
Also (stolen from some previous thread).... Of all the things that never happened... This never happened the most.
2013-03-15 09:52:57 PM  
2 votes:
I'm so jaded and used to hoaxes on the internet that I think it's fake.

/sad, but you get that way after being burned so many times
2013-03-15 07:55:32 PM  
2 votes:
If six year olds don't know if they're gay or not, how come so many of them hook up with male priests???

Answer me that, smart guys!
2013-03-15 07:08:40 PM  
2 votes:

Mid_mo_mad_man: How does that make me a prude? 6 years olds should be innocent.


How does me thinking about my cousin's heterosexuality ("Yep, he's straight!") take away his innocence? How does a 6 year old giggling at the underwear ads in that week's circular take away his (or her!) innocence? Why are you more uncomfortable with your kid's sexuality than he is?
2013-03-15 06:54:27 PM  
2 votes:

swingbozo: I'm quite tired of the "lesbians are our lost sons" crap. Everyone knows the gay boy factor is something about anal sex. Our lovely snowflake likes it up the ass, that certainly wakes everyone up.


I'm not sure if this is offensive, because I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say.
2013-03-15 06:24:11 PM  
2 votes:
I actually asked my son if he was gay, he has tons of girlfriends but no "girlfriend".  I said, I'm cool with it but your conservative dad might need a talk by me before you come out, to ease the blow (yeah pun intended).  He said "No I just want to hang out, get hugs (he's short so face boobage is awesome)  and I hate talking about feelings. But can I tell Jon your ok with it?  He's afraid to tell his parents."   Broke my heart.  At 15 you should be able to tell your mum everything.
2013-03-15 06:01:10 PM  
2 votes:

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


When my cousin's son was 3, his dad TOTALLY caught him flirting with the hot redheaded barista at Starbucks. David thought to himself, "Well, I guess he's straight." It wasn't "Hell yeah, he's straight!" either, but "okay, mental note." And another friend has known since his son was a baby that he was straight because of how he would flirt with the ladies. Children aren't asexual.

/One of my gay friends knew he was gay since he was in kindergarten. He still doesn't understand how his parents didn't figure it out when he asked for the album soundtrack to Xanadu when he was 8.
2013-03-15 05:47:25 PM  
2 votes:

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


When my sister was in grade 1, there was one boy who spent every recess and break styling the girls' hair, brushing and braiding and putting in ponytails. He wanted everything to be made beautiful and arranged nicely. If your 6 year old boy wants to be a hairstylist, collect unicorns, and is horrified by ripped clothes, dirt, and people shouting, that could be an indicator.
2013-03-15 05:43:20 PM  
2 votes:

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


They could tell by the shoes he was wearing.
2013-03-15 05:43:18 PM  
2 votes:
Bread and OJ are high in folic acid and magnesium.
2013-03-15 05:41:16 PM  
2 votes:
Kind of sad this is such a big deal. This is how parents are supposed to react.

/now go buy me some damn OJ
2013-03-15 05:40:07 PM  
2 votes:

thisiszombocom: all my parents do is tell me how disappointed they are in me

:'(

/ really


I am pleased to be able to say that my sexual orientation has no bearing upon my parents' disappointment in me.
2013-03-15 05:16:38 PM  
2 votes:
OMG, that almost made me cry. BEST DAD EVAR!
2013-03-15 05:05:59 PM  
2 votes:

Majick Thise: Damn it's dusty in here today!


Made me cry, too. And I'm jaded and hate everybody.
2013-03-16 11:48:10 AM  
1 votes:

rynthetyn: FuryOfFirestorm: I'm still surprised to find out that Cher admitted to having a hard time dealing with Chastity coming out as a lesbian, while her conservative father Sonny was completely cool with it. I mean, Cher of all people? This is a woman who dated a gay guy (David Geffin) and is worshiped by gay men and imitated by drag queens around the world, and she's couldn't deal with her daughter being a lesbian? Blew my mind.

Then Cher completely plotzed when Chastity transitioned to Chaz, while his stepfather Greg Allman (a redneck dude from the conservative south) was totally chill about it. Now my mind has collapsed into a black hole.

(To be fair to Cher, she eventually got over it and fully supports Chaz now)

Yeah, given how much Cher owes her career to gay men buying her music, that she had a hard time with it was surprising. Though, it's different when it's your kid rather than other people's kids, and I imagine that finding out that your daughter is actually your son is probably something that takes getting used to no matter how theoretically cool with the concept you may be.


Definitely shows you shouldn't put people in round holes when it come to their politics. And yes, making money off other people tends to make it easier.

Think of the closet bigots who talk about interracial relationships, then crap their pants when their child comes home with someone of a different race.
2013-03-16 10:08:51 AM  
1 votes:

Kaenneth: SpeedyBB: dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.

Well this reminds me of Latin American culture - mucho macho naturally - where you will see adults appraise a six-year old and remark "Ese nino es joto" ("That kid's a queer").

It is usually said, from what I've observed, with a mixture of disapproval and pity - most of all for the parents - but also with finality. Which I found interesting: it's there and no amount of football or beatings or hormone therapy or electroshock or Jeebus-screeching is going to change it.

Well, there is always the burlap sack and river solution...

Nothing like humble clothes, and a fresh baptism before sending them off to live in a monastery with all those catholic monks.

A vow of silence means no telling.


Well actually I did not mean to suggest any expression of violence. Effeminate men are pretty much despised in Latin culture but tolerated. Does that make sense? There is also an element of DADT, from what I've observed. It depends on the country as well. Chile considers itself very 'European' but they're homophobic bastids. Argentina is the country of men's men, macho-gaucho, but is also advancing quickly toward GLBT equality. Brazil's a bit of everything.

Also drag queens tend to be tough, to survive. They carry knives and fight with no regard for their personal safety. Sort of like a suicide bomber. Therefore most he-men will point and snicker but tend to keep their distance.

If you want to see a place where nobody gives a shiat go to Thailand. You'll stand out as a farang but your sexual orientation is regarded with puzzled amusement, if the subject happens to come up. 'What, him? He likes boys? Crazy foreigner."
2013-03-16 09:01:22 AM  
1 votes:

XveryYpettyZ: Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age

This thread has already provided anecdotal evidence to refute your baseless claim, but I'll add mine.

By six I was already getting caught hiding lingerie catalogs with scantily clad women under the bed. Of course they were found. My parents just smiled at me and said, "It's because of the boobs isn't it?"
All I could do was admit that, yeah, I like boobs. They didn't scold me or anything, just told me to stop swiping mom's magazines.

By seven I had already looked up sex in an encyclopedia and knew what all the fuss was about, and why women gave me boners.

Suffice to say when my folks decided it was time for "the talk", they weren't terribly surprised that they weren't telling me anything I didn't already know.

I didn't notice girls to much later myself. I just think its odd to look at a 6 year old and think "yep he's gay".

No, it really isn't.  That's about the age you can start to tell in just a couple of minutes.  They don't 'act gay' or anything, you can just tell from voice, facial features and disposition, without knowing anything else about the kid, that he's "different."


Some kids are `different` at that age because they are the autistic spectrum. It would cause much potential
trouble for those young people to be treated as gay if they were not.

`Different` is not always gay.

Also do you subscribe to phrenology monthly?

facial features=`you have a gay face`
"Your head has the bumps of a lunatic"
2013-03-16 07:57:02 AM  
1 votes:

kpaxoid: Tropicana IS the best mass-produced orange juice in the world.


faithandfamilyreviews.com

Here, try some real orange juice.
2013-03-16 05:32:40 AM  
1 votes:

FuryOfFirestorm: I'm still surprised to find out that Cher admitted to having a hard time dealing with Chastity coming out as a lesbian, while her conservative father Sonny was completely cool with it. I mean, Cher of all people? This is a woman who dated a gay guy (David Geffin) and is worshiped by gay men and imitated by drag queens around the world, and she's couldn't deal with her daughter being a lesbian? Blew my mind.

Then Cher completely plotzed when Chastity transitioned to Chaz, while his stepfather Greg Allman (a redneck dude from the conservative south) was totally chill about it. Now my mind has collapsed into a black hole.

(To be fair to Cher, she eventually got over it and fully supports Chaz now)


Yeah, given how much Cher owes her career to gay men buying her music, that she had a hard time with it was surprising. Though, it's different when it's your kid rather than other people's kids, and I imagine that finding out that your daughter is actually your son is probably something that takes getting used to no matter how theoretically cool with the concept you may be.
2013-03-16 04:27:30 AM  
1 votes:

rynthetyn: cuzsis: pivazena: Lumbar Puncture: Same thing happened to my friend but in person.  He told his mom and she said 'Ok, now pass the salad'.

I don't know how I'd feel in that situation.  If it took a massive amount of courage to tell my parents about my sexual orientation and they were all cool-dismissive, like "yeah we totes knew about it anyway," I feel... deflated?  Like this was a big huge deal to me and my parents don't care about hard even coming out was for me.  Of course, that'd be way preferential to a knock-down drag-out fight and them kicking me out of the house. I think I'd at least want a hug or something.  Not a "we feel sorry for you" hug, but a "we know that was hard for you to say" hug.

I've never really thought about that before.  Hmm.

It's called "adolescence". A lot of things that a are a really big deal to kids are "Yeah, okay. Grab me soda will ya?" to adults.

 They forget how many zillion times their parents have already seen this. Sure it's the first time for them and so it's novel and a really big deal. Just like it was for their parents the first time it happened to them too. But now it's like the 58th millionth time and is treated accordingly.

/for normal people anyway.

For most things, what you're saying is true, but not when we're talking about coming out. There's a reason why coming out is so hard, and it's not because teenagers are dramatic and think that it's going to be a big deal for parents, it's because an awful lot of parents react badly. You never know whether your seemingly-tolerant parents are going to flip out when it's  their kid who turns out to be the gay one, and even tolerant parents often have a hard time with it because they have to accept that the life they imagined for their kid isn't the one that their kid is going to have. The reason this thing went viral is because it's so rare that parents react in such a nonplussed way. A lot of times the kid has to take the role of the parent and act like the grownup when t ...


I'm still surprised to find out that Cher admitted to having a hard time dealing with Chastity coming out as a lesbian, while her conservative father Sonny was completely cool with it. I mean, Cher of all people? This is a woman who dated a gay guy (David Geffin) and is worshiped by gay men and imitated by drag queens around the world, and she's couldn't deal with her daughter being a lesbian? Blew my mind.

Then Cher completely plotzed when Chastity transitioned to Chaz, while his stepfather Greg Allman (a redneck dude from the conservative south) was totally chill about it. Now my mind has collapsed into a black hole.

(To be fair to Cher, she eventually got over it and fully supports Chaz now)
2013-03-16 02:59:33 AM  
1 votes:

Jim_Callahan: Six-year-olds do not naturally have a sexual orientation.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
2013-03-16 01:48:26 AM  
1 votes:

cuzsis: For all the people in this thread claiming "eavesdropping" I don't know about you, but the average set of walls in a house/apartment are not exactly sound proof. And teenage boys have a tendency to have loud, carrying voices and are *terrible* at moderating them.

 Stop trying to blame the dad for not be farking deaf in his own house!

/must have a lot of young farks in here or something today.


It's not the fact of the eavesdropping. Generally just being polite requires that you at least *pretend* to not overhear people's emotional crap. I pretty much hear everything my kid (he's about to be 21) says, but I'm not enough of a jerk to go around commenting on it.

/Except to mention that maybe he should bring it down a notch to keep it private on occasion.
2013-03-16 01:30:19 AM  
1 votes:
Better than my mom's "So, it's not like I never slept with a woman before!?" to my "duh, mom, I'm bi, and this is my girlfriend."

Which is great, until everyone is sharing their coming out story and no one understands that your parents really didn't give a flying fart...no, srsly.

But, nothing like eavesdropping on your kid and undercutting their emotional stuff and turning something they want to work through into a cute note...might not have been important to the parents, but I bet it was to the kid.

/My mom *also* claimed to know since I was a first grader...of course, when I was 16 I listened to her telling her bi friend I didn't like boys OR girls. I think I was dating one of each at the time.
2013-03-15 11:58:02 PM  
1 votes:
Even if my son did ping my gaydar when he was six, I don't think it would be fair to him to try and make my mind up about his sexuality at that age.  Sexuality is something that grows and evolves, even if there is some innate baseline parameters.  I don't want to box him into something he's not or something that doesn't describe him fully, even if it's in my own mind.
2013-03-15 11:50:16 PM  
1 votes:

theropod: When *I* was six, I saw that poster of "Star Wars", where Luke's shirt is spread open down to his bellybutton, and I remember thinking, "THAT scene wasn't in the movie!"

/yeah, I was gay at six
//eventually I noticed Leia on the poster too


I had a crush on a boy in my kindergarten class. I sat right behind him. The first time I realized how attractive men were was when Footloose came out. I was 9. I didn't actually come out until in was 25 because I was Mormon. I regret coming out so late because college could have been so different.
2013-03-15 11:45:44 PM  
1 votes:

kpaxoid: Tropicana IS the best mass-produced orange juice in the world.


The smell from the Tropicana factory is the most wonderful smell in the world.

Tropicana-related CSB: When my mom was young, she went to the same church as Anthony Rossi, the guy who started Tropicana. When she was in her early-20s, she was trying to save money to go study in the UK when someone anonymously donated the money for her to go. I'm not sure how, but she found out some years later that it was Mr. Rossi was the one who had given the money. I'm pretty sure that the reason that, unlike my insular tea party relatives, my mom raised us to be the kind of people who weren't afraid of the outside world was because during her formative years she went off and lived outside the US. That's not the kind of opportunity that most children of Pennsylvania dairy farmers--even Pennsylvania dairy farmers who up and moved to Florida in the '60s--get, and it was because of Tropicana.

/end threadjack
2013-03-15 11:19:30 PM  
1 votes:
Ya, it wasn't sexual. It was just a thing. I remember riding my bike to the elementary school so I could give D**** W***** a ride back after football practice. It took me a number of years to realize I had a monster crush on him back in elementary school. He was my first boyfriend. He figured it out and was a little ackward around me. I didn't figure it out and had a mad crush on him.
2013-03-15 10:53:22 PM  
1 votes:
To those saying that you don't know at 6 years old what a child's sexual orientation is, you're wrong.  I'm an elementary teacher and haven't been wrong yet.  Getting to watch these little ones grow, mature, and become their own person is so amazing to get to watch.  It's seriously one of the best perks about teaching.

/and summer vacation
2013-03-15 10:05:40 PM  
1 votes:

ambercat: ReverendJasen: Why do people keep trying to perpetuate this myth that children are all asexual and non-gendered?
We are born with our sex and gender.  Some may display their behavorial traits later than others, but we have them in our DNA before we're born.

I think because thinking of kids being sexual beings is creepy for some people. Adults (normal adults) are not attracted to children, therefor I think they tend to view them as being asexual since they aren't sexual to them. While some people find it 'cute' when children have crushes on much older children, teens or adults, there's other people like me who have the internal bleeergh reaction when I realized the little boys I was baby sitting climbing into my lap were faaar more interested in my boobs than the girls and the lap sitting and trying to get close to me was not 100% asexual comfort. It was just weird because until then I had thought of young children as asexual and the idea that kids that young were viewing me in any kind of sexual context freaked me out. I don't really know why, but I didn't really like it. I think it's easier for adults just not to think about that at all when they're dealing with kids.


Kids are not asexual.  The instinct is there at birth.  I got a farking 3 year old kind of nephew (it's my boyfriend's nephew) bringing me candy and grass he thinks is just as good as flowers to me with his face flushed as he does it.  Kids just don't think about sexuality the same as adults because the "sex" in sexuality is not there yet.  They have no apprehension toward affection.  It is not until adults come in the picture to wag their fingers at them that they start learning what is and is not acceptable behavior, which shapes their idea of what should and should not be, which then leads to shame and guilt.
2013-03-15 09:47:52 PM  
1 votes:

ReverendJasen: Why do people keep trying to perpetuate this myth that children are all asexual and non-gendered?
We are born with our sex and gender.  Some may display their behavorial traits later than others, but we have them in our DNA before we're born.


I think because thinking of kids being sexual beings is creepy for some people. Adults (normal adults) are not attracted to children, therefor I think they tend to view them as being asexual since they aren't sexual to them. While some people find it 'cute' when children have crushes on much older children, teens or adults, there's other people like me who have the internal bleeergh reaction when I realized the little boys I was baby sitting climbing into my lap were faaar more interested in my boobs than the girls and the lap sitting and trying to get close to me was not 100% asexual comfort. It was just weird because until then I had thought of young children as asexual and the idea that kids that young were viewing me in any kind of sexual context freaked me out. I don't really know why, but I didn't really like it. I think it's easier for adults just not to think about that at all when they're dealing with kids.
2013-03-15 09:39:41 PM  
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How the fark in this day and age does someone not realize children can be gay?  Shiat, my parents were born in the '40s and recognized their own cousins being gay when they were kids.  The dudes liked doing girl things when they were very little, so it came as no surprise when they "came out."  It was more like, "Yeah, we know, and we don't care," from what I've been told.  This was the '60s with a bunch of Hispanics, they were much more accepting than the the rest of the country was, now that I think about it.
I have an old friend who took me to family gatherings when we were close 15 years ago.  Her cousin, a 9 year old boy, was the nail painter for grandma because he LOVED (add gay peak stress) doing it.  He also LOVED my dress.  I told my friend he was gay, and she rebutted that he was only 9.  Come 12 years later we were talking, and she says, "____ IS gay."  Yep.  Told you so.
2013-03-15 09:36:41 PM  
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dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


I'm gay and suspected it when I was about that age. It wasn't sexual, but I had an inkling I can't quite articulate.

/Not effeminate, didn't play with Barbies, etc.
2013-03-15 09:25:57 PM  
1 votes:
Tropicana IS the best mass-produced orange juice in the world.
2013-03-15 09:17:30 PM  
1 votes:

Acharne: Dr_Gene: Acharne: My parents are lesbians.


If you're a guy and your parents are lesbians, they're not telling you the whole story.

/Y-Chromosome in the woodpile, perhaps?
// NNTAWWT

OK here goes: Mom has always been a lesbian. Once and only once she got drunk and slept with a dude (not sure if it was in a woodpile, but she must have been piled by wood. Y she did that, I don't know). A couple weeks after that she hooked up with a new lady and they fell in love. Shortly after that mom realised she was pregnant with me. Big changes. They agree to raise me together. *BAM* 32 years pass and here we are, in this thread.  There is more to the story but this is Fark and I'm already causing many pairs of pants to stir by simply mentioning a lesbian having sex with a dude once.


My mom got pregnant with me by my dad, and with my half-sister by another guy before she realized she was a lesbian. She's been blissfully dick-free since 1982.
2013-03-15 09:12:57 PM  
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ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: SBinRR: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: My mom knew about one of the childhood friends of my brother and I.

My daughter had a best friend guy from grade school through high school.  When they were about 12, my wife said "he is gay", and my daughter said "No way!" and gave a hundred reasons why he wasn't.  We both just said it wasn't a big deal, and not to worry about it.

When he came home from his first semester at college, our daughter came in with breaking news that he was gay.  We reminded her of a conversation about 6 years earlier that she "vaguely recalled".

My mom is friend's with my childhood friend's aunt on Facebook so she saw that he had a hyphenated name after getting married and good grief, you'd think that cow never had the chance to say "I told you so" before in her life. Believe me, my brother was a huge tool as a teenager, she said it almost constantly. Yes, yes, he's gay, you were right. Remember when you weren't an intolerant bigot and told your kids to never, ever treat their gay friend who was in the closet any differently because he was gay?! Remember when you raised us to be compassionate and tolerant?

/My mom flipped the script and is now a hugely intolerant biatch about gayness.
//she RSVP'd on Facebook to a Chik-Fil-A appreciation thing in August last year.
///The ensuing drama lasted for two days, 230 comments on my Facebook between my family, friends and coworkers.
//I blocked my mom and brother from posting.
/We spoke again after WA state approved R74 for marriage equality in November.


What made your mom go all WBC like that?
2013-03-15 08:23:03 PM  
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Dragonflew: oukewldave: I've had to come out to say that I am not, in fact, gay.  When you are 30 and have never had a girlfriend, people begin to start talking...

I have tons of female friends, I'm sensitive and emotional, I'm an artist, and I'm single.  People tend to assume.   So yeah, I know how you feel.


I swear my dad thought i was gay for years. I just couldn't tell him that I never brought girls home to meet him because he was an asshole.
2013-03-15 08:17:55 PM  
1 votes:
Yeah two of my cousins are gay...we always knew or at least figured. I think my family was more surprised when my mom came out as religious.
2013-03-15 08:10:42 PM  
1 votes:
What nonsense.

Did the kid demand to wear princess tutus at 6 and that's how the dad knew?

Just more attempt by people who use their personal life to force their political agenda on the rest of us.
2013-03-15 08:10:35 PM  
1 votes:

I should be in the kitchen: A similar thing happened with a close friend in high school. Luckily, his parents were as understanding as the dad who wrote thus note. Being a teenager is hard enough and I can't even to begin to imagine the pain of being rejected by your own family for just being you.


My half-brother (from my father's first marriage) was disowned and shunned by my father for a good 20 years. His crime? Marrying a Puerto Rican woman.
2013-03-15 08:08:07 PM  
1 votes:
A similar thing happened with a close friend in high school. Luckily, his parents were as understanding as the dad who wrote thus note. Being a teenager is hard enough and I can't even to begin to imagine the pain of being rejected by your own family for just being you.
2013-03-15 08:04:35 PM  
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ravenlore: This space intentionally left blank.: Jon iz teh kewl: This space intentionally left blank.: Little shiat probably brought back the OJ with extra pulp. I hate that stuff.

/ another guy who would like to shake that dad's hand and buy him a drink

EXTRA PULP IS GREAT.  TRY SOME

Bleh. Gets caught in my teeth.

Y'know, if we do this right we could turn this thread into a pulp/no pulp flame war. It could almost be as big as the creamy/crunchy peanut butter wars of 2007.

Crunchy.


I don't like peanut butter in ANY form. This opinion has caused me to be branded as a heretic.
2013-03-15 07:55:06 PM  
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Every one of the comments on there that is against the letter for supporting homosexuality trumpets their "values."  They literally act like hate, inter-family discord and judging others are the most important principles to live by.  I really get annoyed at other people who aren't religious that bash religion on the internet, but it is getting harder and harder to refrain from doing it myself.
2013-03-15 07:50:20 PM  
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I've had to come out to say that I am not, in fact, gay.  When you are 30 and have never had a girlfriend, people begin to start talking...
2013-03-15 07:48:12 PM  
1 votes:

GoSurfing: This space intentionally left blank.: Jon iz teh kewl: This space intentionally left blank.: Little shiat probably brought back the OJ with extra pulp. I hate that stuff.

/ another guy who would like to shake that dad's hand and buy him a drink

EXTRA PULP IS GREAT.  TRY SOME

Bleh. Gets caught in my teeth.

Y'know, if we do this right we could turn this thread into a pulp/no pulp flame war. It could almost be as big as the creamy/crunchy peanut butter wars of 2007.

Pulp damnit! More fiber. This is nutritional fact here slapping the face of the no-pulp freaks. The texture adds to the body of the drink. It is not gross, the detractors are defective.


Sometimes, Iike my orange juice smooth and pulp-free.

Sometimes, I like my OJ so thick with pulp I can chew it.

I guess I'm Bi-Jucial.
2013-03-15 07:40:14 PM  
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This space intentionally left blank.: Jon iz teh kewl: This space intentionally left blank.: Little shiat probably brought back the OJ with extra pulp. I hate that stuff.

/ another guy who would like to shake that dad's hand and buy him a drink

EXTRA PULP IS GREAT.  TRY SOME

Bleh. Gets caught in my teeth.

Y'know, if we do this right we could turn this thread into a pulp/no pulp flame war. It could almost be as big as the creamy/crunchy peanut butter wars of 2007.


Pulp damnit! More fiber. This is nutritional fact here slapping the face of the no-pulp freaks. The texture adds to the body of the drink. It is not gross, the detractors are defective.
2013-03-15 07:32:55 PM  
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dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


buckler: When I was taking care of kids, I had one not much older who enjoyed hanging out with the girls much more than with boys, enjoyed playing hairdressing games, liked to try on jewelry and girls' hats and such, and who refused to play competitive games. He liked watching "girly" cartoons and shows. Visiting counselors would say they could easily see feather boas in his future. At some point, it becomes pretty evident. Not always, mind you, but it's fairly obvious.


FunkOut: When my sister was in grade 1, there was one boy who spent every recess and break styling the girls' hair, brushing and braiding and putting in ponytails. He wanted everything to be made beautiful and arranged nicely. If your 6 year old boy wants to be a hairstylist, collect unicorns, and is horrified by ripped clothes, dirt, and people shouting, that could be an indicator.


That's not an indicator of being gay. That's an indicator of liking girly things.  It's about as good an indicator of being gay as a man watching My Little Pony is an indicator of him being a pedophile. And it's cited as such about as often. Which is a shame, because many gay men are as manly as can be, and many heterosexual men like "girly" pursuits.
2013-03-15 07:27:57 PM  
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ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: SBinRR: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: My mom knew about one of the childhood friends of my brother and I.

My daughter had a best friend guy from grade school through high school.  When they were about 12, my wife said "he is gay", and my daughter said "No way!" and gave a hundred reasons why he wasn't.  We both just said it wasn't a big deal, and not to worry about it.

When he came home from his first semester at college, our daughter came in with breaking news that he was gay.  We reminded her of a conversation about 6 years earlier that she "vaguely recalled".

My mom is friend's with my childhood friend's aunt on Facebook so she saw that he had a hyphenated name after getting married and good grief, you'd think that cow never had the chance to say "I told you so" before in her life. Believe me, my brother was a huge tool as a teenager, she said it almost constantly. Yes, yes, he's gay, you were right. Remember when you weren't an intolerant bigot and told your kids to never, ever treat their gay friend who was in the closet any differently because he was gay?! Remember when you raised us to be compassionate and tolerant?

/My mom flipped the script and is now a hugely intolerant biatch about gayness.
//she RSVP'd on Facebook to a Chik-Fil-A appreciation thing in August last year.
///The ensuing drama lasted for two days, 230 comments on my Facebook between my family, friends and coworkers.
//I blocked my mom and brother from posting.
/We spoke again after WA state approved R74 for marriage equality in November.


That sucks man.  My parents have the intolerance virus as well, so I get that.  They were also the Chik-Fil-A day attendees posting on Facebook as well.  My proudest moment during all that was when my daughter updated her FB page during that mess to say "I'm so happy that I was raised by parents that treat ALL people equally and taught me to do the same".
2013-03-15 07:25:13 PM  
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Dr_Gene: Acharne: My parents are lesbians.


If you're a guy and your parents are lesbians, they're not telling you the whole story.

/Y-Chromosome in the woodpile, perhaps?
// NNTAWWT


OK here goes: Mom has always been a lesbian. Once and only once she got drunk and slept with a dude (not sure if it was in a woodpile, but she must have been piled by wood. Y she did that, I don't know). A couple weeks after that she hooked up with a new lady and they fell in love. Shortly after that mom realised she was pregnant with me. Big changes. They agree to raise me together. *BAM* 32 years pass and here we are, in this thread.  There is more to the story but this is Fark and I'm already causing many pairs of pants to stir by simply mentioning a lesbian having sex with a dude once.
2013-03-15 07:22:36 PM  
1 votes:
25.media.tumblr.com
2013-03-15 07:21:36 PM  
1 votes:

Jon iz teh kewl: This space intentionally left blank.: Little shiat probably brought back the OJ with extra pulp. I hate that stuff.

/ another guy who would like to shake that dad's hand and buy him a drink

EXTRA PULP IS GREAT.  TRY SOME


This. I sincerely love extra pulp orange juice.

/admit to being one of the folks who shared this on FB
//i so hope it's true.
2013-03-15 07:04:49 PM  
1 votes:
Why do people keep trying to perpetuate this myth that children are all asexual and non-gendered?
We are born with our sex and gender.  Some may display their behavorial traits later than others, but we have them in our DNA before we're born.
2013-03-15 07:00:19 PM  
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Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age

This thread has already provided anecdotal evidence to refute your baseless claim, but I'll add mine.

By six I was already getting caught hiding lingerie catalogs with scantily clad women under the bed. Of course they were found. My parents just smiled at me and said, "It's because of the boobs isn't it?"
All I could do was admit that, yeah, I like boobs. They didn't scold me or anything, just told me to stop swiping mom's magazines.

By seven I had already looked up sex in an encyclopedia and knew what all the fuss was about, and why women gave me boners.

Suffice to say when my folks decided it was time for "the talk", they weren't terribly surprised that they weren't telling me anything I didn't already know.

I didn't notice girls to much later myself. I just think its odd to look at a 6 year old and think "yep he's gay".

See, there are a lot of religiously influenced groups that would have people believe sexual orientation is a choice (and thus condemnable as sin), but weight of evidence (anecdotal or otherwise) seems to suggest a very different story of human sexual development.

Don't follow the propaganda, follow the evidence.

I don't care who or isn't gay. I just think that we shouldn't be thinking about six years olds sex orientations. Heck six year old kids shouldn't know what sex is.


Oh shut up you prude.
2013-03-15 06:52:42 PM  
1 votes:

Cup_O_Jo: This afternoon my Southern Baptist Grandmother was over for me to fix her computer. Every thing was going smoothly till she started talking to me about God.
She said "homosexuality is a sin" and I said "I have Gay Christian friends who go to church"--she said "well no one is without sin" and I said "so why persecute gays? She then went back to "My best friend growing up was Jim Nabors" I said "I know and you would think that you would get that he is a good person so gay people can be good people and get over it" She was mad when she left. OH well. I can fix the computer but I can't fix the delusion to control sexuality.


Change her desktop to a rainbow.
2013-03-15 06:52:26 PM  
1 votes:

Cheater71: Mid_mo_mad_man: Mike Chewbacca: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age

Trolling?

No, I'm not trolling. I just think it's odd that we are going to label six year olds for life.

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He didn't label a six year old for life.  He knew, and said nothing, until his son (now older) was ready to say something about it.
2013-03-15 06:44:31 PM  
1 votes:

Cheater71: Mid_mo_mad_man: Mike Chewbacca: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age

Trolling?

No, I'm not trolling. I just think it's odd that we are going to label six year olds for life.

[southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com image 200x150]


Is this why I am not Wonder Woman..Because at 6 I was Wonder Woman all the freaking time.
2013-03-15 06:43:43 PM  
1 votes:
I guess I went through the reverse situation of that.  Ten years ago my dad came out as gay, I just gave him a hug and told him it didn't matter to me.  He's much happier now.  Good for him.
2013-03-15 06:43:02 PM  
1 votes:
Not to be a douche, but I've heard it different from gay people...and it's just an honest question:

Nature or nature? Are you born gay, or do you become gay?

/I'm curious. From a scientific standpoint, not a "that thing/person/experience" must have made you gay.
2013-03-15 06:39:50 PM  
1 votes:

swingbozo: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age

Uhm, no. I was super gay early on. By the time I was six my parents should have figured this out after my obsession with Micheal York. Kids are more sexual than the puritanical assholes running this country think they are.


Or rather than they want people to think they are. Controlling sex as comprehensively as possible is one of the foundations of theocratic control.
2013-03-15 06:33:49 PM  
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: When my cousin's son was 3, his dad TOTALLY caught him flirting with the hot redheaded barista at Starbucks.


How does a 3 year old flirt?
2013-03-15 06:33:01 PM  
1 votes:

Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age


This thread has already provided anecdotal evidence to refute your baseless claim, but I'll add mine.

By six I was already getting caught hiding lingerie catalogs with scantily clad women under the bed. Of course they were found. My parents just smiled at me and said, "It's because of the boobs isn't it?"
All I could do was admit that, yeah, I like boobs. They didn't scold me or anything, just told me to stop swiping mom's magazines.

By seven I had already looked up sex in an encyclopedia and knew what all the fuss was about, and why women gave me boners.

Suffice to say when my folks decided it was time for "the talk", they weren't terribly surprised that they weren't telling me anything I didn't already know.
2013-03-15 06:32:51 PM  
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age

Trolling?




No, I'm not trolling. I just think it's odd that we are going to label six year olds for life.
2013-03-15 06:31:49 PM  
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: Some 'Splainin' To Do: milk000: I suspect this letter is fake.

As are 99% of all the other letters that magically went vial.

Tell me more about this magic vial. Is it anything like a bag of holding?

Never, ever put a flask inside a vial! It'll create a rift!


So the flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true?
2013-03-15 06:29:42 PM  
1 votes:

thisispete: That's a sweet story. It's hard not to feel empathy for people you'd expect to have more challenges in life than you face. Who doesn't like seeing an underdog "win"?


www.framingthedialogue.com
2013-03-15 06:28:02 PM  
1 votes:
Mike Chewbacca:
/One of my gay friends knew he was gay since he was in kindergarten. He still doesn't understand how his parents didn't figure it out when he asked for the album soundtrack to Xanadu when he was 8.

I dragged my mother to see that movie when I was 9.  In my defense, I was a huge ELO fan at the time.

She forgave me eventually.

/ About 99 44/100% hetero.
// My kids all know that we'll love them unconditionally, no matter who they fall in love with.
2013-03-15 06:27:20 PM  
1 votes:

Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age


No, they're not - at least, not all of them. Some realize what sexuality is earlier than that. Some just know that certain things make them excited or curious, without really knowing why. For some very unlucky kids (not me, thankfully), abuse can make them aware of sexuality from a frighteningly early. And for some kids, the brain and the body just act precociously and they develop sexually very early. Our body is a weird machine, man, and they don't make them all the same.
2013-03-15 06:23:44 PM  
1 votes:

flannelcat: farking stupid.  fark all involved.


Plonked, because fark you, that's why.
2013-03-15 06:22:00 PM  
1 votes:
All kinds of awesome. My brother died of AIDS, and our parents never accepted his orientation.

/why yes, fundy Christian upbringing
//one time when we were driving he started to turn and I told him to go straight. "I tried," he said.
2013-03-15 06:21:14 PM  
1 votes:
I probably knew at 6, though I don't know that I knew what I knew.  I explicitly remember hearing "For the Longest Time" and thinking the guy was singing to a guy and that this was kind of neat (early 80s).  And, no, I didn't play with Barbies - Legos and Transformers, mostly, when I wasn't on the computer or taking apart old electronics.  My parents never claimed to have known, but both are a little self-centered anyway, so they just may not have noticed anything.

/Mid-30s now, came out at 13, never had a girlfriend.
2013-03-15 06:20:22 PM  
1 votes:

mikaloyd: Dont you hate it when fun stories are fake?


{citation needed}
2013-03-15 06:19:37 PM  
1 votes:

j__z: Kind of sad this is such a big deal. This is how parents are supposed to react.

/now go buy me some damn OJ


American parents are assholes, with various flavors by region.
2013-03-15 06:19:12 PM  
1 votes:

DeerNuts: They even send my batter half birthday cards.


I always thought there was a pitcher and a catcher...

*shrug*
2013-03-15 06:12:54 PM  
1 votes:

mindaroth: Sometimes it's two people who got together because they both happen to be a lot alike and enjoy the same things.


And also because fencing is fun.
2013-03-15 06:12:24 PM  
1 votes:
This a touching story. But in the real world, not all gay people care if they have acceptance from parents.

Or anyone.
2013-03-15 06:11:55 PM  
1 votes:
Hoax.
2013-03-15 06:02:53 PM  
1 votes:
No Hero tag?
2013-03-15 06:00:47 PM  
1 votes:
My dad had a similar but different conversation with my sister once.  It went something like this, "I know you've got a fake ID.  Bring me back a case of beer, you can keep the change."
2013-03-15 05:56:14 PM  
1 votes:

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


When I was six I already had a boyfriend. Not that I remember much about him but blond curly hair, blue eyes, dimples, and an unusually long and stretchy foreskin, but my parents found out after that little biatch gail tattled on us after she saw us making out at recess.

My parental response was twelve years of Jesus and violence.

Hey kid, wanna switch lives? I could use a bit of parental decency, and you'd be amazed what guys will let you put up their butts when you look like me.

Think about it.
2013-03-15 05:51:54 PM  
1 votes:

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


I guess I was an odd bird, that was the age I started really noticing women. Of course I didn't actually act on that until high school. And I couldn't have done anything about it at the time anyway.

But yeah some young kids do get urges even if they don't yet know what they mean.
2013-03-15 05:51:31 PM  
1 votes:

thisiszombocom: all my parents do is tell me how disappointed they are in me

:'(

/ really


That really sucks.  And even if they feel that way, they are dicks for telling you.  I mean, that's very telling of the kind of people they are right there.  Not to 10-second arm-chair psycholgist mixing metaphors here, but if you are not hurting anyone, it sounds like a them problem, not a you problem.    In fact, I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that they grumble to themselves and internalize about other people who piss them off, but are too chicken-shiat to say anything to their faces.  You take care of yourself and let them live in their disappointed misery.  Peace, bro or sis. I really feel for you.
2013-03-15 05:49:38 PM  
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Dahnkster: I am bringing home OJ and bread
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Dahnkster: I am bringing home OJ and bread
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userserve-ak.last.fm
2013-03-15 05:45:31 PM  
1 votes:
Same thing happened to my friend but in person.  He told his mom and she said 'Ok, now pass the salad'.
2013-03-15 05:45:31 PM  
1 votes:

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


Watch some old reruns of Who's the Boss and then get back to us
2013-03-15 05:43:01 PM  
1 votes:
Love it. You go, dad.
2013-03-15 05:41:51 PM  
1 votes:
SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.
2013-03-15 05:40:35 PM  
1 votes:
I farking hate that feeling when you're tearing up and then someone makes some super heartfelt joke so then you're laughing while you're crying and you're just a farking emotional wreck.

"We are out [of OJ and bread], like you now."
2013-03-15 05:40:19 PM  
1 votes:
"I've loved you forever, and I knew. Pick up some OJ and bread, will you?"

Brilliant. Go Dad.
2013-03-15 05:39:17 PM  
1 votes:

Ned Stark: So did the brat go buy orange juice or not?


JESUS man!  content8.flixster.com
2013-03-15 05:39:10 PM  
1 votes:
Reminds me of this:

2.bp.blogspot.com

Sadly I can't find a video link that would load because it's a great scene.
2013-03-15 05:39:07 PM  
1 votes:
Dad didn't vote Republican apparently.
2013-03-15 05:36:42 PM  
1 votes:
I'd like to buy that Dad a drink.
2013-03-15 05:24:56 PM  
1 votes:
i911.photobucket.com
2013-03-15 05:15:34 PM  
1 votes:
Wow.

/trying not to cry, because I'm at work
 
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