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2013-03-15 06:57:31 PM

GoSurfing: valar_morghulis: GoSurfing: Not to be a douche, but I've heard it different from gay people...and it's just an honest question:

Nature or nature? Are you born gay, or do you become gay?

/I'm curious. From a scientific standpoint, not a "that thing/person/experience" must have made you gay.

It's a choice made on an individual basis, obviously.

/How does the religious right make this kind of argument on a daily basis?
//feels gross

I hope you aren't misunderstanding me. I'm not alleging it to be a choice.

/forget the question- you all probably think I'm a douche neo-con.
//guess it makes sense that statistical likelihood of being gay is akin to statistical likelihood of you have blue eyes or not.


I don't think you're a douche neo-con. I was just being a douche by channelling my inner douche neo-con. We straight, dawg.
 
2013-03-15 06:57:32 PM
Low Pulp?
 
2013-03-15 06:57:48 PM

sleeps in trees: thisisyourbrainonFark: sleeps in trees: I actually asked my son if he was gay, he has tons of girlfriends but no "girlfriend".  I said, I'm cool with it but your conservative dad might need a talk by me before you come out, to ease the blow (yeah pun intended).  He said "No I just want to hang out, get hugs (he's short so face boobage is awesome)  and I hate talking about feelings. But can I tell Jon your ok with it?  He's afraid to tell his parents."   Broke my heart.  At 15 you should be able to tell your mum everything.

I didn't really understand this post, but this is still called for

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 300x208]

He's straight, but his best friend is gay. Sorry.


^--- This.
 
2013-03-15 06:58:05 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age

This thread has already provided anecdotal evidence to refute your baseless claim, but I'll add mine.

By six I was already getting caught hiding lingerie catalogs with scantily clad women under the bed. Of course they were found. My parents just smiled at me and said, "It's because of the boobs isn't it?"
All I could do was admit that, yeah, I like boobs. They didn't scold me or anything, just told me to stop swiping mom's magazines.

By seven I had already looked up sex in an encyclopedia and knew what all the fuss was about, and why women gave me boners.

Suffice to say when my folks decided it was time for "the talk", they weren't terribly surprised that they weren't telling me anything I didn't already know.

I didn't notice girls to much later myself. I just think its odd to look at a 6 year old and think "yep he's gay".

See, there are a lot of religiously influenced groups that would have people believe sexual orientation is a choice (and thus condemnable as sin), but weight of evidence (anecdotal or otherwise) seems to suggest a very different story of human sexual development.

Don't follow the propaganda, follow the evidence.




I don't care who or isn't gay. I just think that we shouldn't be thinking about six years olds sex orientations. Heck six year old kids shouldn't know what sex is.
 
2013-03-15 06:58:25 PM
TheShavingofOccam123:

Was it this Michael York?

Logan's run sweetie, I chapped my hands during that movie...
 
2013-03-15 07:00:19 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age

This thread has already provided anecdotal evidence to refute your baseless claim, but I'll add mine.

By six I was already getting caught hiding lingerie catalogs with scantily clad women under the bed. Of course they were found. My parents just smiled at me and said, "It's because of the boobs isn't it?"
All I could do was admit that, yeah, I like boobs. They didn't scold me or anything, just told me to stop swiping mom's magazines.

By seven I had already looked up sex in an encyclopedia and knew what all the fuss was about, and why women gave me boners.

Suffice to say when my folks decided it was time for "the talk", they weren't terribly surprised that they weren't telling me anything I didn't already know.

I didn't notice girls to much later myself. I just think its odd to look at a 6 year old and think "yep he's gay".

See, there are a lot of religiously influenced groups that would have people believe sexual orientation is a choice (and thus condemnable as sin), but weight of evidence (anecdotal or otherwise) seems to suggest a very different story of human sexual development.

Don't follow the propaganda, follow the evidence.

I don't care who or isn't gay. I just think that we shouldn't be thinking about six years olds sex orientations. Heck six year old kids shouldn't know what sex is.


Oh shut up you prude.
 
2013-03-15 07:02:12 PM

swingbozo: TheShavingofOccam123:

Was it this Michael York?

Logan's run sweetie, I chapped my hands during that movie...


Ah, yes. Logan's Run. It had something for everyone.
 
2013-03-15 07:03:04 PM
Kids start to work out gender and sexual identity pretty early on, they just usually have no frame of reference to discuss it with anyone. As others have pointed out, sexual desire and attraction are two different things. I've been attracted to lots of girls but had no interest in actually having sex with them. Not that I'd have said no, I just never considered it a goal. Human interaction is way more complex than some of you seem to think, especially when you admit to yourself you don't have to behave the way everyone else does.
 
2013-03-15 07:04:32 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age

This thread has already provided anecdotal evidence to refute your baseless claim, but I'll add mine.

By six I was already getting caught hiding lingerie catalogs with scantily clad women under the bed. Of course they were found. My parents just smiled at me and said, "It's because of the boobs isn't it?"
All I could do was admit that, yeah, I like boobs. They didn't scold me or anything, just told me to stop swiping mom's magazines.

By seven I had already looked up sex in an encyclopedia and knew what all the fuss was about, and why women gave me boners.

Suffice to say when my folks decided it was time for "the talk", they weren't terribly surprised that they weren't telling me anything I didn't already know.

I didn't notice girls to much later myself. I just think its odd to look at a 6 year old and think "yep he's gay".

See, there are a lot of religiously influenced groups that would have people believe sexual orientation is a choice (and thus condemnable as sin), but weight of evidence (anecdotal or otherwise) seems to suggest a very different story of human sexual development.

Don't follow the propaganda, follow the evidence.

I don't care who or isn't gay. I just think that we shouldn't be thinking about six years olds sex orientations. Heck six year old kids shouldn't know what sex is.

Oh shut up you prude.




How does that make me a prude? 6 years olds should be innocent.
 
2013-03-15 07:04:49 PM
Why do people keep trying to perpetuate this myth that children are all asexual and non-gendered?
We are born with our sex and gender.  Some may display their behavorial traits later than others, but we have them in our DNA before we're born.
 
2013-03-15 07:05:14 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why would any dad think his son is gay at six? Kids are asexual at that age

This thread has already provided anecdotal evidence to refute your baseless claim, but I'll add mine.

By six I was already getting caught hiding lingerie catalogs with scantily clad women under the bed. Of course they were found. My parents just smiled at me and said, "It's because of the boobs isn't it?"
All I could do was admit that, yeah, I like boobs. They didn't scold me or anything, just told me to stop swiping mom's magazines.

By seven I had already looked up sex in an encyclopedia and knew what all the fuss was about, and why women gave me boners.

Suffice to say when my folks decided it was time for "the talk", they weren't terribly surprised that they weren't telling me anything I didn't already know.

I didn't notice girls to much later myself. I just think its odd to look at a 6 year old and think "yep he's gay".

See, there are a lot of religiously influenced groups that would have people believe sexual orientation is a choice (and thus condemnable as sin), but weight of evidence (anecdotal or otherwise) seems to suggest a very different story of human sexual development.

Don't follow the propaganda, follow the evidence.

I don't care who or isn't gay. I just think that we shouldn't be thinking about six years olds sex orientations. Heck six year old kids shouldn't know what sex is.


Why?

Understand, I'm not advocating pedophilia, but why should six year old kids be insulated from learning, academically, a biological fact? Recall, I learned from an encyclopedia at age seven. I grew up into a man comfortable with his sexuality and did not turn into a raving sex fiend or sex offender. Are you saying I'm the exception to some rule I'm unaware of?

What exactly is it you believe you are protecting them (or civilization) from?
 
2013-03-15 07:06:43 PM

swingbozo: Logan's run sweetie, I chapped my hands during that movie...


I don't care who or what you're fapping to.  You're just lucky it was your hands that chapped.
 
2013-03-15 07:06:55 PM

thisisyourbrainonFark: All kinds of awesome. My brother died of AIDS, and our parents never accepted his orientation.

/why yes, fundy Christian upbringing
//one time when we were driving he started to turn and I told him to go straight. "I tried," he said.


I was a part of my campus's Gay/Straight Alliance in college. One of the oldest (and still in use) jokes that we had was having to say "Proceed gaily forward" instead of "Go straight."
 
2013-03-15 07:07:32 PM

SultanofSchwing: Cup_O_Jo: This afternoon my Southern Baptist Grandmother was over for me to fix her computer. Every thing was going smoothly till she started talking to me about God.
She said "homosexuality is a sin" and I said "I have Gay Christian friends who go to church"--she said "well no one is without sin" and I said "so why persecute gays? She then went back to "My best friend growing up was Jim Nabors" I said "I know and you would think that you would get that he is a good person so gay people can be good people and get over it" She was mad when she left. OH well. I can fix the computer but I can't fix the delusion to control sexuality.

Change her desktop to a rainbow.


I am working on a photoshop of Jim Nabors with rainbow angel wings holding a bible. Is that going overboard? LOL
 
2013-03-15 07:08:29 PM
That's a great letter.  My mom found out I was gay snooping around my computer one day when I was 16.  Her reaction was to try and send me to therapy and the local Priest to talk to.  We didn't talk much until I was in my late 20's and have only a luke-warm relationship.
 
2013-03-15 07:08:40 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: How does that make me a prude? 6 years olds should be innocent.


How does me thinking about my cousin's heterosexuality ("Yep, he's straight!") take away his innocence? How does a 6 year old giggling at the underwear ads in that week's circular take away his (or her!) innocence? Why are you more uncomfortable with your kid's sexuality than he is?
 
2013-03-15 07:10:25 PM
My mom knew about one of the childhood friends of my brother and I. He played baseball on the same team as we did. He took dance and tumbling classes at the same school as I did. She probably knew him at 8 or 9 years old. Throughout high school, she insisted he was gay. He didn't have overly feminine behaviors, there were plenty of boys in the tumbling and dance classes we took together, it wasn't that he was unmasculine, he just was gay. During high school, so, so many girls had huge crushes on him and threw themselves at him and despite numerous jerks pointing out his rumored sexuality, these girls never believed it (or thought they could change him?) My mom, though a zealot anti-gay Christian now, was always very specific to my brother and I that we were to never, ever speak of his sexual orientation. It was NOT OK to ever share that information.

He got married last year, 13 years after high school having not come out during that time. A few of the girls who had crushes on him have admitted to never even considering it was possible that he was gay.
 
2013-03-15 07:10:43 PM
"Your mom and I think you and Mike make a cute couple."

Kiss of death Mike.  Sorry about that.  He'll be dropping you like a bad habit within a week.


Cool on the parents.  Awesome dads are awesome.
 
2013-03-15 07:11:52 PM

DeerNuts: my batter half


/that's a new expression. presumably due to you coating him in your baby batter?
 
2013-03-15 07:14:29 PM
Little shiat probably brought back the OJ with extra pulp. I hate that stuff.

/ another guy who would like to shake that dad's hand and buy him a drink
 
2013-03-15 07:14:45 PM

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


There exists a picture of my beloved little brother at the age of two wearing my older sister's pink tutu and looking absolutely resplendent in it, as if he was born to wear it.  I always knew he was gay, though he waited until he was in college before coming out.  I was like, "No shiat, dude.  About time you figured it out.  Let's have a beer."

/CSB , literally
//love my little brother and he loves me after I was a jerk to him growing up
///you can't unscramble an egg, but people grow
 
2013-03-15 07:16:02 PM

ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: My mom knew about one of the childhood friends of my brother and I.


My daughter had a best friend guy from grade school through high school.  When they were about 12, my wife said "he is gay", and my daughter said "No way!" and gave a hundred reasons why he wasn't.  We both just said it wasn't a big deal, and not to worry about it.

When he came home from his first semester at college, our daughter came in with breaking news that he was gay.  We reminded her of a conversation about 6 years earlier that she "vaguely recalled".
 
2013-03-15 07:17:32 PM

sleeps in trees: thisisyourbrainonFark: sleeps in trees: I actually asked my son if he was gay, he has tons of girlfriends but no "girlfriend".  I said, I'm cool with it but your conservative dad might need a talk by me before you come out, to ease the blow (yeah pun intended).  He said "No I just want to hang out, get hugs (he's short so face boobage is awesome)  and I hate talking about feelings. But can I tell Jon your ok with it?  He's afraid to tell his parents."   Broke my heart.  At 15 you should be able to tell your mum everything.

I didn't really understand this post, but this is still called for

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 300x208]

He's straight, but his best friend is gay. Sorry.


'Tis fine, we're all starting to imbibe. Except for the "straight"-laced.
 
2013-03-15 07:18:25 PM

This space intentionally left blank.: Little shiat probably brought back the OJ with extra pulp. I hate that stuff.

/ another guy who would like to shake that dad's hand and buy him a drink


EXTRA PULP IS GREAT.  TRY SOME
 
2013-03-15 07:20:32 PM

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


Huh.  I had already been having 3-ways with the neighbor girls for a year...

Sometimes, sexual orientation is *really obvious* at an early age.
 
2013-03-15 07:21:36 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: This space intentionally left blank.: Little shiat probably brought back the OJ with extra pulp. I hate that stuff.

/ another guy who would like to shake that dad's hand and buy him a drink

EXTRA PULP IS GREAT.  TRY SOME


This. I sincerely love extra pulp orange juice.

/admit to being one of the folks who shared this on FB
//i so hope it's true.
 
2013-03-15 07:22:07 PM

thisisyourbrainonFark: sleeps in trees: thisisyourbrainonFark: sleeps in trees: I actually asked my son if he was gay, he has tons of girlfriends but no "girlfriend".  I said, I'm cool with it but your conservative dad might need a talk by me before you come out, to ease the blow (yeah pun intended).  He said "No I just want to hang out, get hugs (he's short so face boobage is awesome)  and I hate talking about feelings. But can I tell Jon your ok with it?  He's afraid to tell his parents."   Broke my heart.  At 15 you should be able to tell your mum everything.

I didn't really understand this post, but this is still called for

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 300x208]

He's straight, but his best friend is gay. Sorry.

'Tis fine, we're all starting to imbibe. Except for the "straight"-laced.





You missed "your". I'm on a streek.
 
2013-03-15 07:22:36 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-15 07:23:08 PM

SBinRR: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: My mom knew about one of the childhood friends of my brother and I.

My daughter had a best friend guy from grade school through high school.  When they were about 12, my wife said "he is gay", and my daughter said "No way!" and gave a hundred reasons why he wasn't.  We both just said it wasn't a big deal, and not to worry about it.

When he came home from his first semester at college, our daughter came in with breaking news that he was gay.  We reminded her of a conversation about 6 years earlier that she "vaguely recalled".


My mom is friend's with my childhood friend's aunt on Facebook so she saw that he had a hyphenated name after getting married and good grief, you'd think that cow never had the chance to say "I told you so" before in her life. Believe me, my brother was a huge tool as a teenager, she said it almost constantly. Yes, yes, he's gay, you were right. Remember when you weren't an intolerant bigot and told your kids to never, ever treat their gay friend who was in the closet any differently because he was gay?! Remember when you raised us to be compassionate and tolerant?

/My mom flipped the script and is now a hugely intolerant biatch about gayness.
//she RSVP'd on Facebook to a Chik-Fil-A appreciation thing in August last year.
///The ensuing drama lasted for two days, 230 comments on my Facebook between my family, friends and coworkers.
//I blocked my mom and brother from posting.
/We spoke again after WA state approved R74 for marriage equality in November.
 
2013-03-15 07:25:13 PM

Dr_Gene: Acharne: My parents are lesbians.


If you're a guy and your parents are lesbians, they're not telling you the whole story.

/Y-Chromosome in the woodpile, perhaps?
// NNTAWWT


OK here goes: Mom has always been a lesbian. Once and only once she got drunk and slept with a dude (not sure if it was in a woodpile, but she must have been piled by wood. Y she did that, I don't know). A couple weeks after that she hooked up with a new lady and they fell in love. Shortly after that mom realised she was pregnant with me. Big changes. They agree to raise me together. *BAM* 32 years pass and here we are, in this thread.  There is more to the story but this is Fark and I'm already causing many pairs of pants to stir by simply mentioning a lesbian having sex with a dude once.
 
2013-03-15 07:25:23 PM

ravenlore: This. I sincerely love extra pulp orange juice.


www.spscriptorium.com

Christ, eat an orange.
 
2013-03-15 07:26:08 PM

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


My mom works at a daycare and today she said one of the 4-year-old girls only wears boys underwear because she has decided she is a boy. It's not a phase either, her parents have met with the directors and stuff. Maybe at 6 he painted his GI Joes pink and made them little dresses?
 
2013-03-15 07:26:44 PM

ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: My mom knew about one of the childhood friends of my brother and I. He played baseball on the same team as we did. He took dance and tumbling classes at the same school as I did. She probably knew him at 8 or 9 years old. Throughout high school, she insisted he was gay. He didn't have overly feminine behaviors, there were plenty of boys in the tumbling and dance classes we took together, it wasn't that he was unmasculine, he just was gay. During high school, so, so many girls had huge crushes on him and threw themselves at him and despite numerous jerks pointing out his rumored sexuality, these girls never believed it (or thought they could change him?) My mom, though a zealot anti-gay Christian now, was always very specific to my brother and I that we were to never, ever speak of his sexual orientation. It was NOT OK to ever share that information.

He got married last year, 13 years after high school having not come out during that time. A few of the girls who had crushes on him have admitted to never even considering it was possible that he was gay.


So is he gay?
 
2013-03-15 07:26:48 PM
As someone that just took down  a whole bottle of Trop 50 I am getting a kick of being out of Orange Juice. I always worry about how I would handle it if (when I have kids) one of my kids came out. I really don't give a crap if I have a gay son or daughter and I would hope that I am a good enough dad that my kid will know I love them unconditionally but I don't know if I should just be nonchalant like this dad or if it is important that you address it and explain your position, if a demonstrative expression of my support is truly important. I guess I may find out one day who knows.
 
2013-03-15 07:27:57 PM

ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: SBinRR: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: My mom knew about one of the childhood friends of my brother and I.

My daughter had a best friend guy from grade school through high school.  When they were about 12, my wife said "he is gay", and my daughter said "No way!" and gave a hundred reasons why he wasn't.  We both just said it wasn't a big deal, and not to worry about it.

When he came home from his first semester at college, our daughter came in with breaking news that he was gay.  We reminded her of a conversation about 6 years earlier that she "vaguely recalled".

My mom is friend's with my childhood friend's aunt on Facebook so she saw that he had a hyphenated name after getting married and good grief, you'd think that cow never had the chance to say "I told you so" before in her life. Believe me, my brother was a huge tool as a teenager, she said it almost constantly. Yes, yes, he's gay, you were right. Remember when you weren't an intolerant bigot and told your kids to never, ever treat their gay friend who was in the closet any differently because he was gay?! Remember when you raised us to be compassionate and tolerant?

/My mom flipped the script and is now a hugely intolerant biatch about gayness.
//she RSVP'd on Facebook to a Chik-Fil-A appreciation thing in August last year.
///The ensuing drama lasted for two days, 230 comments on my Facebook between my family, friends and coworkers.
//I blocked my mom and brother from posting.
/We spoke again after WA state approved R74 for marriage equality in November.


That sucks man.  My parents have the intolerance virus as well, so I get that.  They were also the Chik-Fil-A day attendees posting on Facebook as well.  My proudest moment during all that was when my daughter updated her FB page during that mess to say "I'm so happy that I was raised by parents that treat ALL people equally and taught me to do the same".
 
2013-03-15 07:30:30 PM

Watubi: Uh, Dad?  Mike isn't gay


this. And mikes parents saw the letter and already sent their straight son off to anti gay camp.

As for dad and son...damn it's dusty!
 
2013-03-15 07:31:26 PM

Ned Stark: So did the brat go buy orange juice or not?


yes he did.. but I think he forgot the daily bread.
 
2013-03-15 07:32:40 PM

SBinRR: My parents have the intolerance virus as well, so I get that.


I'm so glad mine do not! I didn't talk to my parents about marriage equality until probably 4 years ago. I assumed they were against it because they were devout Christians. But they both said that they support marriage equality (and legalization of marijuana, and gambling, and prostitution, because prohibiting it causes more harm than good). I was pleasantly surprised! But, they're Methodist, so that might be part of why they're progressive.
 
2013-03-15 07:32:55 PM

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


buckler: When I was taking care of kids, I had one not much older who enjoyed hanging out with the girls much more than with boys, enjoyed playing hairdressing games, liked to try on jewelry and girls' hats and such, and who refused to play competitive games. He liked watching "girly" cartoons and shows. Visiting counselors would say they could easily see feather boas in his future. At some point, it becomes pretty evident. Not always, mind you, but it's fairly obvious.


FunkOut: When my sister was in grade 1, there was one boy who spent every recess and break styling the girls' hair, brushing and braiding and putting in ponytails. He wanted everything to be made beautiful and arranged nicely. If your 6 year old boy wants to be a hairstylist, collect unicorns, and is horrified by ripped clothes, dirt, and people shouting, that could be an indicator.


That's not an indicator of being gay. That's an indicator of liking girly things.  It's about as good an indicator of being gay as a man watching My Little Pony is an indicator of him being a pedophile. And it's cited as such about as often. Which is a shame, because many gay men are as manly as can be, and many heterosexual men like "girly" pursuits.
 
2013-03-15 07:33:07 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: This space intentionally left blank.: Little shiat probably brought back the OJ with extra pulp. I hate that stuff.

/ another guy who would like to shake that dad's hand and buy him a drink

EXTRA PULP IS GREAT.  TRY SOME


Bleh. Gets caught in my teeth.

Y'know, if we do this right we could turn this thread into a pulp/no pulp flame war. It could almost be as big as the creamy/crunchy peanut butter wars of 2007.
 
2013-03-15 07:33:42 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Mike Chewbacca: When my cousin's son was 3, his dad TOTALLY caught him flirting with the hot redheaded barista at Starbucks.

How does a 3 year old flirt?


My then 3 year old son flirted with a group of cute college girls when we were stuck in an airport with a delayed connection. He sauntered up to them and announced, "I can go poo poo on the potty all by myself now!" The girls seemed to think it was adorable, so it kinda worked.
 
2013-03-15 07:35:06 PM
When *I* was six, I saw that poster of "Star Wars", where Luke's shirt is spread open down to his bellybutton, and I remember thinking, "THAT scene wasn't in the movie!"

/yeah, I was gay at six
//eventually I noticed Leia on the poster too
 
2013-03-15 07:36:30 PM
s1.dmcdn.net

//hotlinks.
 
2013-03-15 07:37:04 PM

Mike Chewbacca: SBinRR: My parents have the intolerance virus as well, so I get that.

I'm so glad mine do not! I didn't talk to my parents about marriage equality until probably 4 years ago. I assumed they were against it because they were devout Christians. But they both said that they support marriage equality (and legalization of marijuana, and gambling, and prostitution, because prohibiting it causes more harm than good). I was pleasantly surprised! But, they're Methodist, so that might be part of why they're progressive.


I want to party trade casserole recipes with your parents. :)

My folks were pretty damn awesome when they were younger, but damn if they haven't gone way right in all the wrong ways in the last 15-20 years.   They still have their Bob Dylan and Peter Paul & Mary albums, but something went way wrong.
 
2013-03-15 07:40:14 PM

This space intentionally left blank.: Jon iz teh kewl: This space intentionally left blank.: Little shiat probably brought back the OJ with extra pulp. I hate that stuff.

/ another guy who would like to shake that dad's hand and buy him a drink

EXTRA PULP IS GREAT.  TRY SOME

Bleh. Gets caught in my teeth.

Y'know, if we do this right we could turn this thread into a pulp/no pulp flame war. It could almost be as big as the creamy/crunchy peanut butter wars of 2007.


Pulp damnit! More fiber. This is nutritional fact here slapping the face of the no-pulp freaks. The texture adds to the body of the drink. It is not gross, the detractors are defective.
 
2013-03-15 07:45:20 PM

Acharne: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: My mom knew about one of the childhood friends of my brother and I. He played baseball on the same team as we did. He took dance and tumbling classes at the same school as I did. She probably knew him at 8 or 9 years old. Throughout high school, she insisted he was gay. He didn't have overly feminine behaviors, there were plenty of boys in the tumbling and dance classes we took together, it wasn't that he was unmasculine, he just was gay. During high school, so, so many girls had huge crushes on him and threw themselves at him and despite numerous jerks pointing out his rumored sexuality, these girls never believed it (or thought they could change him?) My mom, though a zealot anti-gay Christian now, was always very specific to my brother and I that we were to never, ever speak of his sexual orientation. It was NOT OK to ever share that information.

He got married last year, 13 years after high school having not come out during that time. A few of the girls who had crushes on him have admitted to never even considering it was possible that he was gay.

So is he gay?


Yes, I am sorry if that was unclear, when I said, "my mom knew..."
 
2013-03-15 07:45:29 PM

dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.


You raise a good point.  Exactly what did he mean by 'I knew you were gay since you were 6'?  There are some places that goes, which aren't (uhm) heartwarming or positive.
 
2013-03-15 07:46:31 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.

You raise a good point.  Exactly what did he mean by 'I knew you were gay since you were 6'?  There are some places that goes, which aren't (uhm) heartwarming or positive.


RTFT?
 
2013-03-15 07:48:12 PM

GoSurfing: This space intentionally left blank.: Jon iz teh kewl: This space intentionally left blank.: Little shiat probably brought back the OJ with extra pulp. I hate that stuff.

/ another guy who would like to shake that dad's hand and buy him a drink

EXTRA PULP IS GREAT.  TRY SOME

Bleh. Gets caught in my teeth.

Y'know, if we do this right we could turn this thread into a pulp/no pulp flame war. It could almost be as big as the creamy/crunchy peanut butter wars of 2007.

Pulp damnit! More fiber. This is nutritional fact here slapping the face of the no-pulp freaks. The texture adds to the body of the drink. It is not gross, the detractors are defective.


Sometimes, Iike my orange juice smooth and pulp-free.

Sometimes, I like my OJ so thick with pulp I can chew it.

I guess I'm Bi-Jucial.
 
2013-03-15 07:48:54 PM

Watubi: dragonchild: SIX???  What's there to know about a six-year-old's sexual orientation?  When I was six I was. . . well. . . six!  I was years away from my cooties phase, let alone being attracted to anyone.

Watch some old reruns of Who's the Boss and then get back to us


I was thinking the  exact same thing.  He was eight when he started on that show, and it was obvious immediately.  I think the world knew long before he did.
 
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