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2013-03-15 01:04:11 PM  

Carth: Kids didn't need gameboys either but it keeps them quiet when you're doing something.


plewis: You don't have a toddler. They are great for when you are doing something boring and necessary and have to have the kid in tow.


I wonder how all of us parents got along before gameboys and iThingies came along.

How did those children survive without constant and instant gratification?
 
2013-03-15 01:05:41 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Bin_jammin: 3 year old with an iphone? Seems like the criminal is a better parent than the victims.

To be fair, it WAS his mother's phone, but I'm not handing my kid a piece of technology worth several hundred dollars. They get a book. Or a remote with no batteries. Kids will play with ANYTHING.


I don't see my statement invalidated. I RTFA, giving a phone to a 3 year old is no way to raise a 3 year old. A criminal taking the phone away is doing a better job as a parent than the parents that are raising the kid with an iphone as a distraction.
 
2013-03-15 01:10:08 PM  
Toddlers should be equipped with a transponder and a GPS chip.  You should be able to press a button on your key chain and set off an alarm.  Tracking your crotchfruit should not require two-way communication.
 
2013-03-15 01:10:50 PM  
They are charging him with grand larceny for an IPhone?  Cops in SF could care less if your phone is stolen, unless it was stolen from Apple then SFPD will break down doors to find a prototype.
 
2013-03-15 01:10:54 PM  
My daughter attends full day kindergarten.  When I pick her up, I am surprised to see kids with phones.  I 'let' my kid play with an old blackberry (no account) because of the games.  She snuck it off to school one day and got it muddy so she gave it a bath in the water fountain.  Needless to say, it didn't work anymore.  I managed to reboot it after googling the answer and sold it for $30 to a repair shop for parts.  Oh well.  It'll be a while before she has access to another.
 
2013-03-15 01:14:07 PM  
YouPeopleAreCrazy:
I wonder how all of us parents got along before gameboys and iThingies came along.

How did those children survive without constant and instant gratification?


We went outside.
 
2013-03-15 01:17:00 PM  

the-meter-man:  Saaay... that sounds like a larf!


D'oh, not only was i late, but autocorrect ruined the joke. I wonder how much strength the hobo had?
 
2013-03-15 01:17:57 PM  

Dragonflew: Today on Fark, I learned that giving a three-year-old a piece of fragile electronics worth hundreds of dollars to play with is "reasonable".


And I learned that there are a lot of judgmental douchenozles on fark.  You all are biatching about a mom giving her phone to her kid - all her choices and well within her right to do so - and you don't give a crap about the scumbag who decided to steal it for drugs.

Golf clap.  You've taken victim blaming to a whole new level.

As far as my parenting skills are concerned - go fark yourself with a pineapple.  My kid takes great care of the phones, he's never broken one and we have them in child proof cases.  It's not like we just let him zone for hours with the thing, it's a treat or a distraction for when he's stuck accompanying us to someplace that sucks.  The kid reads and does math better than average so take your ideal parenting idea and shove it so far up your self righteous bunghole that you can comment on the smell.
 
2013-03-15 01:18:46 PM  

AcneVulgaris: kiwimoogle84: Which is why my kids aren't getting phones until they're old enough to fight back.

What's WITH this "every kid has an iphone" thing? KIDS DON'T NEED PHONES.

It's not a phone, its a pocket babysitter.

Will be interesting to see if the kids who had a touchscreen shoved at them to make them shut up will turn out similar to the ones that were sat in a windup swing in front of daytime tv.


I'll tell you from experience right now that their need to be entertained at all times is exponentially larger.
 
2013-03-15 01:19:52 PM  

plewis: Dragonflew: Today on Fark, I learned that giving a three-year-old a piece of fragile electronics worth hundreds of dollars to play with is "reasonable".

And I learned that there are a lot of judgmental douchenozles on fark.  You all are biatching about a mom giving her phone to her kid - all her choices and well within her right to do so - and you don't give a crap about the scumbag who decided to steal it for drugs.


Nah, I think everyone involved is foolish. Except the kid... he has an excuse, he's three.
 
2013-03-15 01:29:16 PM  
Actually as tech manager for the largest carrier of Iphones, parents get their 6+ year old Iphones all the time.  And when it gets left on a bus, broken, stolen, or dropped in the commode they go ballastic when they find out the true retail value when they need to replace it.  After not buying insurance or Applecare on it.
 
2013-03-15 01:31:38 PM  
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Why does a toddler have an iPhone?
 
2013-03-15 01:36:05 PM  
He's using it for E-Trade?
 
2013-03-15 01:39:14 PM  

Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model


This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.
 
2013-03-15 01:40:40 PM  
FTA:"He's was drug addict"

He is was drug addict!??

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-15 01:42:59 PM  

katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.


He sounds fat.
 
2013-03-15 01:43:28 PM  

katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.


Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.
 
2013-03-15 01:52:54 PM  

theflatline: Actually as tech manager for the largest carrier of Iphones, parents get their 6+ year old Iphones all the time.  And when it gets left on a bus, broken, stolen, or dropped in the commode they go ballastic when they find out the true retail value when they need to replace it.  After not buying insurance or Applecare on it.


I had to buy my 4S out of contract- I needed a new one and if I upgraded with a new 2 year contract, I would have lost my grandfathered unlimited data plan. I about shiat a brick when I got handed the $549 bill, but I paid it, because I could easily rack up that much in data charges over a few months without the sweet unlimited plan. I see absolutely no sense in getting your kid his own phone line AT ALL. I didn't get one until I was 19 and I didn't die.

Maybe at 16 they can have one when they start driving as long as they pay the bill. But it's like parents these days can't just send the kid over to a friend's house even having that parent's number, because OH NO, they have to be able to call the kid directly, and vice versa. "But what if they need something?" For Christ's sake, I'm sure whatever it is, the other parent can take care of it or call you if it's really important.
 
2013-03-15 01:54:12 PM  

theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.


You know....give him an activity that doesn't make him a mindless drone and requires thought and creativity.
 
2013-03-15 02:01:22 PM  
I want to thank everyone here for their concern about my children running up bills and/or damaging my smartphone.  While your concern is greatly appreciated, I am capable of doing my own risk/benefit analysis when I let them use it.  When the government starts a program whereby tax dollars are used for this purpose, at that point it will become your business.

I like video games.  My kids like video games.  There are times when we are not playing sports, doing art, reading, cooking dinner, etc. that we like to play video games.  Sometimes I let them do it on a smartphone.  I'm sure there some graphic with a meme that describes how little I care if you don't approve, but I'm too lazy to look for it.
 
2013-03-15 02:02:28 PM  
See baby with iphone...

Go up to coont whore mother and punch her right in her coont whore mouth.

Take phone from baby and smash it on the ground.

Problem solved.
 
2013-03-15 02:05:56 PM  

theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.


Exactly.  It's bad enough we have farking grown adults walking around like the living dead... PHONES...  PHONES...

Way to pass on the bad habit to your children.  I would be totally 100% happy if cell phones just went away.
 
2013-03-15 02:08:46 PM  

kiwimoogle84: theflatline: Actually as tech manager for the largest carrier of Iphones, parents get their 6+ year old Iphones all the time.  And when it gets left on a bus, broken, stolen, or dropped in the commode they go ballastic when they find out the true retail value when they need to replace it.  After not buying insurance or Applecare on it.

I had to buy my 4S out of contract- I needed a new one and if I upgraded with a new 2 year contract, I would have lost my grandfathered unlimited data plan. I about shiat a brick when I got handed the $549 bill, but I paid it, because I could easily rack up that much in data charges over a few months without the sweet unlimited plan. I see absolutely no sense in getting your kid his own phone line AT ALL. I didn't get one until I was 19 and I didn't die.

Maybe at 16 they can have one when they start driving as long as they pay the bill. But it's like parents these days can't just send the kid over to a friend's house even having that parent's number, because OH NO, they have to be able to call the kid directly, and vice versa. "But what if they need something?" For Christ's sake, I'm sure whatever it is, the other parent can take care of it or call you if it's really important.


If you are an ATT customer you can upgrade on a two year contract, and keep your unlimited data.  You  must have verizon.
 
2013-03-15 02:32:53 PM  

theflatline: kiwimoogle84: theflatline: Actually as tech manager for the largest carrier of Iphones, parents get their 6+ year old Iphones all the time.  And when it gets left on a bus, broken, stolen, or dropped in the commode they go ballastic when they find out the true retail value when they need to replace it.  After not buying insurance or Applecare on it.

I had to buy my 4S out of contract- I needed a new one and if I upgraded with a new 2 year contract, I would have lost my grandfathered unlimited data plan. I about shiat a brick when I got handed the $549 bill, but I paid it, because I could easily rack up that much in data charges over a few months without the sweet unlimited plan. I see absolutely no sense in getting your kid his own phone line AT ALL. I didn't get one until I was 19 and I didn't die.

Maybe at 16 they can have one when they start driving as long as they pay the bill. But it's like parents these days can't just send the kid over to a friend's house even having that parent's number, because OH NO, they have to be able to call the kid directly, and vice versa. "But what if they need something?" For Christ's sake, I'm sure whatever it is, the other parent can take care of it or call you if it's really important.

If you are an ATT customer you can upgrade on a two year contract, and keep your unlimited data.  You  must have verizon.


Not what I was told a year ago. I was told if I renewed or changed ANYTHING on my account, I lost it.
 
2013-03-15 02:36:56 PM  

asscorethethird: theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.

Exactly.  It's bad enough we have farking grown adults walking around like the living dead... PHONES...  PHONES...

Way to pass on the bad habit to your children.  I would be totally 100% happy if cell phones just went away.


You sound old.

/and sheltered
//and lonely
///bring back snail mail, and rotary phones, amirite?
////yeah yeah, get off my lawn...
 
2013-03-15 03:09:43 PM  

theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.


He has those things too except the Lincoln Logs, do they still make those? He is quite capable of playing with things other than the iPod. He's not turning into a mindless drone because he uses it. He has learning apps on it and uses those and he also doesn't play on it all day and night. Yeesh. You people need to come out of the dark ages.
 
2013-03-15 03:11:31 PM  

asscorethethird: See baby with iphone...

Go up to coont whore mother and punch her right in her coont whore mouth.

Take phone from baby and smash it on the ground.

Problem solved.


You sound like barrels of fun.
 
2013-03-15 03:12:35 PM  

buckets_of_fun: theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.

You know....give him an activity that doesn't make him a mindless drone and requires thought and creativity.


You do know they make apps for children that allows them to learn and acquire new skills, right?
 
2013-03-15 03:12:55 PM  

LoR75: asscorethethird: theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.

Exactly.  It's bad enough we have farking grown adults walking around like the living dead... PHONES...  PHONES...

Way to pass on the bad habit to your children.  I would be totally 100% happy if cell phones just went away.

You sound old.

/and sheltered
//and lonely
///bring back snail mail, and rotary phones, amirite?
////yeah yeah, get off my lawn...


I dont know, is 31 years old the new 50? //old
And married,  //lonely
with children, //lonely
and used to work for a vietnamese crime syndicate //sheltered

I've found the only people who defend being phone zombies are people who play with their farking phones all day.
 
2013-03-15 03:24:50 PM  

katerbug72: learning apps


^people actually believe this
 
2013-03-15 03:33:24 PM  
Okay as you smart-ass farkers. You tell me how he's supposed to show how cool he is, and impress all the other kids at daycare without an iPhone.
 
2013-03-15 03:41:50 PM  
When I'm trying to play video games my cat won't leave me the fark alone, so I set up some nice cat games on my tablet and it entertains her for an hour or so.
 
2013-03-15 03:45:19 PM  

Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this


Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.
 
2013-03-15 03:45:43 PM  
Stupid enough to get an iPhone mom gives it to her kid to play on and it's stolen.

Electronic Darwinism I say.

/don't give an iCrap
 
2013-03-15 03:50:23 PM  

katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this

Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.


So what you're teaching him is not how to behave but to be dependent on outside stimulus to get through the day.  Valuable lesson.
 
2013-03-15 03:58:56 PM  

Yogimus: katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this

Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.

So what you're teaching him is not how to behave but to be dependent on outside stimulus to get through the day.  Valuable lesson.


Do you have kids?
 
2013-03-15 04:01:32 PM  

asscorethethird: See baby with iphone...

Go up to coont whore mother and punch her right in her coont whore mouth.

Take phone from baby and smash it on the ground.

Problem solved.


We have gone full retard in this thread. Dear lord.
 
2013-03-15 04:04:27 PM  

katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this

Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.

So what you're teaching him is not how to behave but to be dependent on outside stimulus to get through the day.  Valuable lesson.

Do you have kids?


Nevermind, I don't care if you do or don't. I don't give a crap what you think of my parenting skills.
 
2013-03-15 04:05:59 PM  

katerbug72: Nevermind, I don't care if you do or don't. I don't give a crap what you think of my parenting skills.


I see there is hope for you yet.

/2 of em.
 
2013-03-15 04:07:15 PM  

katerbug72: buckets_of_fun: theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.

You know....give him an activity that doesn't make him a mindless drone and requires thought and creativity.

You do know they make apps for children that allows them to learn and acquire new skills, right?


Math blaster does not equate the same type of skills and knowledge as acquired from building a huge lego base and smashing into it with your Tonka.
 
2013-03-15 04:16:04 PM  

katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this

Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.


I am in my mid 40s and was born in the 60s.  I am also a network engineer and a technophile.  Oddly enough I remember in the good old days when children did not run around screaming if they were not given a digital pacifier.  A pair of car keys would suffice, or a smack on the bottom.

I remember the "dark ages" and the children were certainly better behaved than what I see now.

I remember once when I was a small child and I ran around willy nilly in a shopping center, and punched my grandmother in the knee, she promptly dropped my trousers and spanked me in front of everyone, and I never repeated the incident.

I recently spent 2 years mentoring graduating college students who were in the late teens and early 20s who grew up with smartphones and computers.  They were literally helpless if an application failed to work and their answer to everything was to turn the computer off and on, and pray to the digital gods out there that it would automagically fix itself.

Technology has taken away the building blocks of a proper education and upbringing.  It is up to parents to make sure they prepare their child to function in the world as adults without having to rely on "googling".

A device can be a learning tool but it should only be used after a basic skillset is acquired. Reward good behavior with the use of it, technology should never be used as a panacea for proper child rearing.  Rewarding bad behavior is the worst thing you can do to a child.

Robert Heinlein said it best
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly." "
 
2013-03-15 04:24:45 PM  

Yogimus: katerbug72: Nevermind, I don't care if you do or don't. I don't give a crap what you think of my parenting skills.

I see there is hope for you yet.

/2 of em.


lol Gee, thanks. The kid is making forts out of couch cushions right now.
 
2013-03-15 04:39:33 PM  
When you are at a restaurant and the food is taking a long time to come out, would you rather hear screaming kids or see a kid playing a game on an iphone?
 
2013-03-15 05:05:54 PM  

ck819: When you are at a restaurant and the food is taking a long time to come out, would you rather hear screaming kids or see a kid playing a game on an iphone?


I would prefer the parent beat some discipline into the kid so it doesn't become an issue in the first place.
 
2013-03-15 05:31:44 PM  

asscorethethird: LoR75: asscorethethird: theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.

Exactly.  It's bad enough we have farking grown adults walking around like the living dead... PHONES...  PHONES...

Way to pass on the bad habit to your children.  I would be totally 100% happy if cell phones just went away.

You sound old.

/and sheltered
//and lonely
///bring back snail mail, and rotary phones, amirite?
////yeah yeah, get off my lawn...

I dont know, is 31 years old the new 50? //old
And married,  //lonely
with children, //lonely
and used to work for a vietnamese crime syndicate //sheltered

I've found the only people who defend being phone zombies are people who play with their farking phones all day.



Heck, you're younger than I, but we have 2 of the next 3 items in common.  I'll let you figure out which two. :)

There's a difference between being a phone zombie and just having a cell phone.  I agree that phone zombies are the scourge of the earth, however I see many of those zombies are in their 30s and really didn't grow up with cell phones.  Pagers, yes...cell phones not so much.  We grew up with TV, videogames, and computers.  We had our own horrible zombie habits.

If you are a zombie, glued to your phone and walking into things (or traffic) then yes, I agree with your "way to pass on your bad habit" comment.

However, if you just have a cell phone, and are not glued to it every 30 seconds, I don't see any harm in allowing your young one to play around with it sparingly.  Technology is not a parenting replacement/subsitute though.

Get your kids outside, keep them active.  Educate them on various subjects as much as possible AND teach them about technology they will undoubtedly use.  Our close friend's 5 year old is already doing Khan Academy stuff on their iPad.  Super smart kid, but they ensure that his iPad usage regulated.  He is also learning how to play the guitar.


/proud dad of a 4 month old
//he already knows how to turn on his mobile
 
2013-03-15 06:01:02 PM  

theflatline: katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this

Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.

I am in my mid 40s and was born in the 60s.  I am also a network engineer and a technophile.  Oddly enough I remember in the good old days when children did not run around screaming if they were not given a digital pacifier.  A pair of car keys would suffice, or a smack on the bottom.

I remember the "dark ages" and the children were certainly better behaved than what I see now.

I remember once when I was a small child and I ran around willy nilly in a shopping center, and punched my grandmother in the knee, she promptly dropped my trousers and spanked me in front of everyone, and I never repeated the incident.

I recently spent 2 years mentoring graduating college students who were in the late teens and early 20s who grew up with smartphones and computers.  They were literally helpless if an application failed to work and their answer to everything was to turn the computer off and on, and pray to the digital gods out there that it would automagically fix itself.

Technology has taken away the building blocks of a proper education and upbringing.  It is up to parents to make sure they prepare their child to f ...



I agree with just about everything you've stated..however your observation of the Me Generation brings up a point.

Late teens, early 20s?  They're millennials, and their issues go far beyond growing up with smartphones and computers. They are all about instant gratification with as little effort as possible.

So to use your CSB, their helplessness regarding an application failing to work isn't wholly atrributed to growing up with technology, no matter how much you think it is.  It's that instant gratification kicking in.  "It's not working, I want it to work now, let's reboot!".  I am curious if after rebooting, and it still didn't work, did they just give up or become disinterested?

Many of kids in this generation grew up fairly sheltered by their parents, regardless of technology.  I think I once read an article that described these kids as Trophy Kids and have shown to delay their maturity (or growing up) for as long as possible because they love that shelter and support that their Helicopter Parents give them.
 
2013-03-15 06:46:49 PM  

Carth: Most of the time it is either the parent's old phone after they upgraded.


or?
 
2013-03-15 10:17:12 PM  

LoR75: So to use your CSB, their helplessness regarding an application failing to work isn't wholly atrributed to growing up with technology, no matter how much you think it is. It's that instant gratification kicking in. "It's not working, I want it to work now, let's reboot!". I am curious if after rebooting, and it still didn't work, did they just give up or become disinterested?


I find that kids of this generation give up very quickly if they can't do something perfectly right the first time.
 
2013-03-15 11:25:02 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Don't give expensive or valuable things to toddlers.  In fact, don't give ANYTHING to a toddler unless you are ok with it being lost, damaged, or broken.


And given what kids do when they get into stuff is yet another reason not to have any.

If some kid started messing with and/or breaking stuff in my studio...yeah...no bueno
 
2013-03-16 03:09:47 AM  
Can everyone quit the bickering and concentrate on more important things!?

What's his high score?
 
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