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2013-03-15 11:21:14 AM
Which is why my kids aren't getting phones until they're old enough to fight back.

What's WITH this "every kid has an iphone" thing? KIDS DON'T NEED PHONES.
 
2013-03-15 11:21:49 AM
3 year old with an iphone? Seems like the criminal is a better parent than the victims.
 
2013-03-15 11:23:55 AM
I absolutely agree with the "a toddler does not need an iPhone", but it wasn't the kid's.  Still, it's pretty stupid letting a toddler play with one.
 
2013-03-15 11:23:57 AM
Don't give expensive or valuable things to toddlers.  In fact, don't give ANYTHING to a toddler unless you are ok with it being lost, damaged, or broken.
 
2013-03-15 11:24:35 AM

Bin_jammin: 3 year old with an iphone? Seems like the criminal is a better parent than the victims.


To be fair, it WAS his mother's phone, but I'm not handing my kid a piece of technology worth several hundred dollars. They get a book. Or a remote with no batteries. Kids will play with ANYTHING.
 
2013-03-15 11:24:43 AM
I never got robbed for candy, then again I never carried/flashed $500 worth of candy to be stolen either.
 
2013-03-15 11:28:50 AM
Let's be real here. The phone was obviously a toy for a three-year-old and they aren't known for being delicate with anything they touch. The thing would have been too beat up for anybody to make much money off it anyway.
 
2013-03-15 11:29:03 AM
The homeless person was probably doing the whole family a favor. And if that Iphone was on Sprint I say we find this homeless man and make him a Lord and grant him land and title.
 
2013-03-15 11:31:10 AM

LegacyDL: The homeless person was probably doing the whole family a favor. And if that Iphone was on Sprint I say we find this homeless man and make him a Lord and grant him land and title.


As an iphone user for over five years, I take only minor offense at that- this IS Fark, after all, I realize.

/AT&T
//grandfathered unlimited data biatches
 
2013-03-15 11:32:00 AM
Everyone chill. If someone wants to let their 3 year old play a game on a smart phone what's the big deal? It's not like it was his phone with a curious George case and Go Diego Go ringtones...

As for the thief, I cant blame him. The temptation is too big. I mean hundreds of dollars in the hands of a 3 year old.. and I need drugs. He is asking me to steal the phone.
AND he said thank you AND gave him 3 dollars.

The judge has to recognize the fact that this junky has morals and cut him some slack. Maybe a night in jail and community service.
 
2013-03-15 11:38:44 AM
First world problems.
 
2013-03-15 11:39:49 AM
Also: with a name like Aidan, he will be stealing his own Iphones in no time.
 
2013-03-15 11:41:41 AM

Master Sphincter: Everyone chill. If someone wants to let their 3 year old play a game on a smart phone what's the big deal? It's not like it was his phone with a curious George case and Go Diego Go ringtones...

As for the thief, I cant blame him. The temptation is too big. I mean hundreds of dollars in the hands of a 3 year old.. and I need drugs. He is asking me to steal the phone.
AND he said thank you AND gave him 3 dollars.

The judge has to recognize the fact that this junky has morals and cut him some slack. Maybe a night in jail and community service.


Eh, I've seen better. 6/10
 
2013-03-15 11:41:54 AM
I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model
 
2013-03-15 11:43:24 AM
Hey, to be fair maybe it was an iPhone 4.  In which case, $3 is probably a reasonable residual price for the hardware.  The $50 the thief got for it was probably because it was active on somebody else's account, and the buyer maybe hoped to make more than $50 worth of international phone calls on it before the phone was deactivated.

And that iPhone 5 value is about to drop when iPhone 5.01 comes out next week, with the latest minor tweak or additional feature or two.
 
2013-03-15 11:43:36 AM
i.imgur.com

Personally I've found that handing an old phone to a child is a great way to keep them occupied for a while.
 
2013-03-15 11:44:07 AM

kiwimoogle84: Which is why my kids aren't getting phones until they're old enough to fight back.

What's WITH this "every kid has an iphone" thing? KIDS DON'T NEED PHONES.


Most of the time it is either the parent's old phone after they upgraded. Kids didn't need gameboys either but it keeps them quiet when you're doing something.
 
2013-03-15 11:44:23 AM

I think the phrase "if you can't protect it, it wasn't yours in the first place" could apply here.


//Which is why you should give the kid martial arts training first so he could defend the phone in the sand box.

 
2013-03-15 11:47:11 AM
Master Sphincter:
The judge has to recognize the fact that this junky has morals and cut him some slack. Maybe a night in jail and community service.

I didn't realize it was Lindsay Lohan.
 
2013-03-15 11:51:04 AM
image1.frequency.com
 Saaay... that sounds like a larf!
 
2013-03-15 11:51:36 AM
Subway Surfer?  Is that the one where you run around the NY City subway stations and look for unsuspecting travelers to push into uncoming trains.  You get points based on how fat the victim is.
 
2013-03-15 11:53:07 AM

reaperducer: Master Sphincter:
The judge has to recognize the fact that this junky has morals and cut him some slack. Maybe a night in jail and community service.

I didn't realize it was Lindsay Lohan.


You forgot to type the joke
 
2013-03-15 11:53:48 AM

Carth: kiwimoogle84: Which is why my kids aren't getting phones until they're old enough to fight back.

What's WITH this "every kid has an iphone" thing? KIDS DON'T NEED PHONES.

Most of the time it is either the parent's old phone after they upgraded. Kids didn't need gameboys either but it keeps them quiet when you're doing something.


The difference being, GameBoys don't cost you every month, and you can't download $180 in aps and surprise your parents with the bill. Happened to my sister. My 7 year old niece basically bought every top ap itunes had to offer on my sister's phone, then deleted most of them, trying to cover it up. Still showed on the bill though. My sister about died.
 
2013-03-15 11:57:50 AM
I'm more outraged my the parent using a technological babysitter to placate the child. These are the parents that will plop the child in front of Elmo and let him do the work.
 
2013-03-15 12:00:52 PM

the-meter-man: [image1.frequency.com image 202x132]
 Saaay... that sounds like a larf!


I -- oh, it's you. What are you so happy about? ... I see. I think you'd better drop it. I said, drop it! Get your hands off!
 
2013-03-15 12:04:00 PM
I did not read the article or this page so WHY DOES A TODDLER HAVE AN IPHONE!!! DATS STOOPID!!!
 
2013-03-15 12:07:32 PM
That's good for a part!
 
2013-03-15 12:09:01 PM
Don't ever give anything to a toddler you don't want lost/broken.  They are literally dumber than a cat but have thumbs.
 
2013-03-15 12:09:32 PM
Oh my farking God I cannot stand the name Aiden.  It makes me feel all stabby.
 
2013-03-15 12:10:27 PM
As the father of a toddler who frequently steals my iphone, all I can say is "Karma's a biatch kid, isn't it?"

/dnrtfa
 
2013-03-15 12:15:26 PM

Dragonflew: I absolutely agree with the "a toddler does not need an iPhone", but it wasn't the kid's.  Still, it's pretty stupid letting a toddler play with one.


I handed my old iPhone 3G down to my toddler once I got a iPhone 5. I let him play puzzle, painting and letter matching games on it. If/when he breaks it: no big deal.

I assume that still makes me a bad parent though.
 
2013-03-15 12:16:09 PM
In my day we didn't have cell phones to play with, we just jerked off all day.....and we liked it.

\Good times
 
2013-03-15 12:18:24 PM
I hope the homeless guy got his $3 back.
 
2013-03-15 12:19:48 PM

kiwimoogle84: Which is why my kids aren't getting phones until they're old enough to fight back.

What's WITH this "every kid has an iphone" thing? KIDS DON'T NEED PHONES.


RTFA. The kid was playing a game on his mother's phone.
 
2013-03-15 12:20:54 PM

mjohnson71: Dragonflew: I absolutely agree with the "a toddler does not need an iPhone", but it wasn't the kid's.  Still, it's pretty stupid letting a toddler play with one.

I handed my old iPhone 3G down to my toddler once I got a iPhone 5. I let him play puzzle, painting and letter matching games on it. If/when he breaks it: no big deal.

I assume that still makes me a bad parent though.


If you don't care about it, and if it's not a teenager who would rather text her other tween friends and can't put the phone down for seven seconds, than no, you're probably ok. I'm just a cheap bastard and I like books- I'm old school. I had more books than clothes in my room- it was the way I was raised, and I fully intend when I have kids to do the same.
 
2013-03-15 12:22:10 PM

Bathia_Mapes: kiwimoogle84: Which is why my kids aren't getting phones until they're old enough to fight back.

What's WITH this "every kid has an iphone" thing? KIDS DON'T NEED PHONES.

RTFA. The kid was playing a game on his mother's phone.


RTFT- that was my second comment.
 
2013-03-15 12:25:00 PM

kiwimoogle84: Carth: kiwimoogle84: Which is why my kids aren't getting phones until they're old enough to fight back.

What's WITH this "every kid has an iphone" thing? KIDS DON'T NEED PHONES.

Most of the time it is either the parent's old phone after they upgraded. Kids didn't need gameboys either but it keeps them quiet when you're doing something.

The difference being, GameBoys don't cost you every month, and you can't download $180 in aps and surprise your parents with the bill. Happened to my sister. My 7 year old niece basically bought every top ap itunes had to offer on my sister's phone, then deleted most of them, trying to cover it up. Still showed on the bill though. My sister about died.


Neither does an old iphone that isn't on contract. It is basically a free ipod touch at that point. If it was the mother's phone she is paying for it whether the kid can use it for video games or not.  With parental controls enabled the kid can't buy anything even in a wifi network without the parent putting in a password.
 
2013-03-15 12:25:53 PM

mjohnson71: Dragonflew: I absolutely agree with the "a toddler does not need an iPhone", but it wasn't the kid's.  Still, it's pretty stupid letting a toddler play with one.

I handed my old iPhone 3G down to my toddler once I got a iPhone 5. I let him play puzzle, painting and letter matching games on it. If/when he breaks it: no big deal.

I assume that still makes me a bad parent though.


You gave your kid a deactivated throw-away.  This parent let a toddler play with her active phone.  There's a big difference.
 
2013-03-15 12:28:03 PM

Dragonflew: I absolutely agree with the "a toddler does not need an iPhone", but it wasn't the kid's.  Still, it's pretty stupid letting a toddler play with one.


You don't have a toddler.  They are great for when you are doing something boring and necessary and have to have the kid in tow.

As for my kid, hell, he would have had to punch him to get him to let go of the phone!  Kid's a fighter and he has a DEATH GRIP on that phone.
 
2013-03-15 12:32:36 PM

plewis: Dragonflew: I absolutely agree with the "a toddler does not need an iPhone", but it wasn't the kid's.  Still, it's pretty stupid letting a toddler play with one.

You don't have a toddler.  They are great for when you are doing something boring and necessary and have to have the kid in tow.

As for my kid, hell, he would have had to punch him to get him to let go of the phone!  Kid's a fighter and he has a DEATH GRIP on that phone.


Yeah, but I wouldn't give him MINE. Carth is absolutely correct on that one. If it was an older one, it's still an expensive toy. Maybe I'd let an older kid play with it (I didn't get a gameboy until I was 12) but a toddler? Maybe tiny kids these days are way smarter than I was as a kid. I barely figured out how to turn pages by myself by age 3 or 4.

And also, your kid sounds awesome. +1 on the parenting.
 
2013-03-15 12:33:44 PM

plewis: Dragonflew: I absolutely agree with the "a toddler does not need an iPhone", but it wasn't the kid's.  Still, it's pretty stupid letting a toddler play with one.

You don't have a toddler.


If I did, it would not be getting my active iPhone. That's just stupid. Like the above post, it would be a deactivated throw-away.
 
2013-03-15 12:37:39 PM
Hey little guy. Cute phone you got there? Wanna install an app? I got a cute app for you right here. Happy puppies that go barky! Just click "Install". What a good boy! Now, remember to hold the phone up thusly when mommy breastfeeds you.
 
2013-03-15 12:37:49 PM

Dragonflew: mjohnson71: Dragonflew: I absolutely agree with the "a toddler does not need an iPhone", but it wasn't the kid's.  Still, it's pretty stupid letting a toddler play with one.

I handed my old iPhone 3G down to my toddler once I got a iPhone 5. I let him play puzzle, painting and letter matching games on it. If/when he breaks it: no big deal.

I assume that still makes me a bad parent though.

You gave your kid a deactivated throw-away.  This parent let a toddler play with her active phone.  There's a big difference.


Unbunch your panties, dude.  Kids like to play games and the phones play games just fine.  Do I have to go and find a dedicated piece of technology just because you have some problem with me handing my phone to my kid?  Do you think I don't protect my kid when I'm out in public?  The phone falls under that same halo.

No, what you don't expect is some junkie to reach in and grab your stuff.  The junkie should be in treatment, but since we're all too stupid as a society to realize that, we will continue to have to be vigilant and will continue to deal with the low level crime and destruction of lower income neighborhoods that come with it.  This guy is a low life who should be in MANDATORY TREATMENT in a jail cell.  Blame him, don't blame the victim or the victim's mother for doing something TOTALLY REASONABLE.
 
2013-03-15 12:40:41 PM
Today on Fark, I learned that giving a three-year-old a piece of fragile electronics worth hundreds of dollars to play with is "reasonable".
 
2013-03-15 12:40:56 PM

kiwimoogle84: Which is why my kids aren't getting phones until they're old enough to fight back.

What's WITH this "every kid has an iphone" thing? KIDS DON'T NEED PHONES.


It's not a phone, its a pocket babysitter.

Will be interesting to see if the kids who had a touchscreen shoved at them to make them shut up will turn out similar to the ones that were sat in a windup swing in front of daytime tv.
 
2013-03-15 12:48:05 PM
Its time we started looking at euthanasia as a viable solution to the homeless issue.
 
2013-03-15 12:54:41 PM

AcneVulgaris: kiwimoogle84: Which is why my kids aren't getting phones until they're old enough to fight back.

What's WITH this "every kid has an iphone" thing? KIDS DON'T NEED PHONES.

It's not a phone, its a pocket babysitter.

Will be interesting to see if the kids who had a touchscreen shoved at them to make them shut up will turn out similar to the ones that were sat in a windup swing in front of daytime tv.


Yeah, that's my issue too. TV takes the place of actual parenting a lot of the time. And honestly, I'm floored with some of the crap my friends pull. My friend has a 10 year old and a 7 year old. They are arguing over what movie to watch- He wants to watch 300, she wants to watch Easy A. Her complaint? She's seen 300 too many times. His complaint? "There's no BLOOD in that movie!"

I'm going, you're effing children.

Now, I'm not one to try to over-shelter or protect kids throughout high school or whatever, but children are children, and it's absolutely inappropriate to expose your kids to THAT kind of media so early. And it's lazy on her part that she doesn't care what her kids watch. No, have a Mommy and Daddy DVD shelf, and don't let them find The Expendables on Netflix just because you don't bother with parental settings.

/off soapbox
 
2013-03-15 12:57:31 PM
I could have sworn that this story is over a year old.

(Looks at article)

Yep. Must be another slow news day at Rupert Murdoch's NY Compost, and the editor needed something to inject some good old Daily Mail level Hate into the worker force.
 
2013-03-15 01:01:15 PM
A monkey once stole my banana phone.
 
2013-03-15 01:02:01 PM
Gee, the alleged homeless thief was a drug addict -- didn't see that one coming.
 
2013-03-15 01:04:11 PM

Carth: Kids didn't need gameboys either but it keeps them quiet when you're doing something.


plewis: You don't have a toddler. They are great for when you are doing something boring and necessary and have to have the kid in tow.


I wonder how all of us parents got along before gameboys and iThingies came along.

How did those children survive without constant and instant gratification?
 
2013-03-15 01:05:41 PM

kiwimoogle84: Bin_jammin: 3 year old with an iphone? Seems like the criminal is a better parent than the victims.

To be fair, it WAS his mother's phone, but I'm not handing my kid a piece of technology worth several hundred dollars. They get a book. Or a remote with no batteries. Kids will play with ANYTHING.


I don't see my statement invalidated. I RTFA, giving a phone to a 3 year old is no way to raise a 3 year old. A criminal taking the phone away is doing a better job as a parent than the parents that are raising the kid with an iphone as a distraction.
 
2013-03-15 01:10:08 PM
Toddlers should be equipped with a transponder and a GPS chip.  You should be able to press a button on your key chain and set off an alarm.  Tracking your crotchfruit should not require two-way communication.
 
2013-03-15 01:10:50 PM
They are charging him with grand larceny for an IPhone?  Cops in SF could care less if your phone is stolen, unless it was stolen from Apple then SFPD will break down doors to find a prototype.
 
2013-03-15 01:10:54 PM
My daughter attends full day kindergarten.  When I pick her up, I am surprised to see kids with phones.  I 'let' my kid play with an old blackberry (no account) because of the games.  She snuck it off to school one day and got it muddy so she gave it a bath in the water fountain.  Needless to say, it didn't work anymore.  I managed to reboot it after googling the answer and sold it for $30 to a repair shop for parts.  Oh well.  It'll be a while before she has access to another.
 
2013-03-15 01:14:07 PM
YouPeopleAreCrazy:
I wonder how all of us parents got along before gameboys and iThingies came along.

How did those children survive without constant and instant gratification?


We went outside.
 
2013-03-15 01:17:00 PM

the-meter-man:  Saaay... that sounds like a larf!


D'oh, not only was i late, but autocorrect ruined the joke. I wonder how much strength the hobo had?
 
2013-03-15 01:17:57 PM

Dragonflew: Today on Fark, I learned that giving a three-year-old a piece of fragile electronics worth hundreds of dollars to play with is "reasonable".


And I learned that there are a lot of judgmental douchenozles on fark.  You all are biatching about a mom giving her phone to her kid - all her choices and well within her right to do so - and you don't give a crap about the scumbag who decided to steal it for drugs.

Golf clap.  You've taken victim blaming to a whole new level.

As far as my parenting skills are concerned - go fark yourself with a pineapple.  My kid takes great care of the phones, he's never broken one and we have them in child proof cases.  It's not like we just let him zone for hours with the thing, it's a treat or a distraction for when he's stuck accompanying us to someplace that sucks.  The kid reads and does math better than average so take your ideal parenting idea and shove it so far up your self righteous bunghole that you can comment on the smell.
 
2013-03-15 01:18:46 PM

AcneVulgaris: kiwimoogle84: Which is why my kids aren't getting phones until they're old enough to fight back.

What's WITH this "every kid has an iphone" thing? KIDS DON'T NEED PHONES.

It's not a phone, its a pocket babysitter.

Will be interesting to see if the kids who had a touchscreen shoved at them to make them shut up will turn out similar to the ones that were sat in a windup swing in front of daytime tv.


I'll tell you from experience right now that their need to be entertained at all times is exponentially larger.
 
2013-03-15 01:19:52 PM

plewis: Dragonflew: Today on Fark, I learned that giving a three-year-old a piece of fragile electronics worth hundreds of dollars to play with is "reasonable".

And I learned that there are a lot of judgmental douchenozles on fark.  You all are biatching about a mom giving her phone to her kid - all her choices and well within her right to do so - and you don't give a crap about the scumbag who decided to steal it for drugs.


Nah, I think everyone involved is foolish. Except the kid... he has an excuse, he's three.
 
2013-03-15 01:29:16 PM
Actually as tech manager for the largest carrier of Iphones, parents get their 6+ year old Iphones all the time.  And when it gets left on a bus, broken, stolen, or dropped in the commode they go ballastic when they find out the true retail value when they need to replace it.  After not buying insurance or Applecare on it.
 
2013-03-15 01:31:38 PM
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
Why does a toddler have an iPhone?
 
2013-03-15 01:36:05 PM
He's using it for E-Trade?
 
2013-03-15 01:39:14 PM

Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model


This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.
 
2013-03-15 01:40:40 PM
FTA:"He's was drug addict"

He is was drug addict!??

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-15 01:42:59 PM

katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.


He sounds fat.
 
2013-03-15 01:43:28 PM

katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.


Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.
 
2013-03-15 01:52:54 PM

theflatline: Actually as tech manager for the largest carrier of Iphones, parents get their 6+ year old Iphones all the time.  And when it gets left on a bus, broken, stolen, or dropped in the commode they go ballastic when they find out the true retail value when they need to replace it.  After not buying insurance or Applecare on it.


I had to buy my 4S out of contract- I needed a new one and if I upgraded with a new 2 year contract, I would have lost my grandfathered unlimited data plan. I about shiat a brick when I got handed the $549 bill, but I paid it, because I could easily rack up that much in data charges over a few months without the sweet unlimited plan. I see absolutely no sense in getting your kid his own phone line AT ALL. I didn't get one until I was 19 and I didn't die.

Maybe at 16 they can have one when they start driving as long as they pay the bill. But it's like parents these days can't just send the kid over to a friend's house even having that parent's number, because OH NO, they have to be able to call the kid directly, and vice versa. "But what if they need something?" For Christ's sake, I'm sure whatever it is, the other parent can take care of it or call you if it's really important.
 
2013-03-15 01:54:12 PM

theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.


You know....give him an activity that doesn't make him a mindless drone and requires thought and creativity.
 
2013-03-15 02:01:22 PM
I want to thank everyone here for their concern about my children running up bills and/or damaging my smartphone.  While your concern is greatly appreciated, I am capable of doing my own risk/benefit analysis when I let them use it.  When the government starts a program whereby tax dollars are used for this purpose, at that point it will become your business.

I like video games.  My kids like video games.  There are times when we are not playing sports, doing art, reading, cooking dinner, etc. that we like to play video games.  Sometimes I let them do it on a smartphone.  I'm sure there some graphic with a meme that describes how little I care if you don't approve, but I'm too lazy to look for it.
 
2013-03-15 02:02:28 PM
See baby with iphone...

Go up to coont whore mother and punch her right in her coont whore mouth.

Take phone from baby and smash it on the ground.

Problem solved.
 
2013-03-15 02:05:56 PM

theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.


Exactly.  It's bad enough we have farking grown adults walking around like the living dead... PHONES...  PHONES...

Way to pass on the bad habit to your children.  I would be totally 100% happy if cell phones just went away.
 
2013-03-15 02:08:46 PM

kiwimoogle84: theflatline: Actually as tech manager for the largest carrier of Iphones, parents get their 6+ year old Iphones all the time.  And when it gets left on a bus, broken, stolen, or dropped in the commode they go ballastic when they find out the true retail value when they need to replace it.  After not buying insurance or Applecare on it.

I had to buy my 4S out of contract- I needed a new one and if I upgraded with a new 2 year contract, I would have lost my grandfathered unlimited data plan. I about shiat a brick when I got handed the $549 bill, but I paid it, because I could easily rack up that much in data charges over a few months without the sweet unlimited plan. I see absolutely no sense in getting your kid his own phone line AT ALL. I didn't get one until I was 19 and I didn't die.

Maybe at 16 they can have one when they start driving as long as they pay the bill. But it's like parents these days can't just send the kid over to a friend's house even having that parent's number, because OH NO, they have to be able to call the kid directly, and vice versa. "But what if they need something?" For Christ's sake, I'm sure whatever it is, the other parent can take care of it or call you if it's really important.


If you are an ATT customer you can upgrade on a two year contract, and keep your unlimited data.  You  must have verizon.
 
2013-03-15 02:32:53 PM

theflatline: kiwimoogle84: theflatline: Actually as tech manager for the largest carrier of Iphones, parents get their 6+ year old Iphones all the time.  And when it gets left on a bus, broken, stolen, or dropped in the commode they go ballastic when they find out the true retail value when they need to replace it.  After not buying insurance or Applecare on it.

I had to buy my 4S out of contract- I needed a new one and if I upgraded with a new 2 year contract, I would have lost my grandfathered unlimited data plan. I about shiat a brick when I got handed the $549 bill, but I paid it, because I could easily rack up that much in data charges over a few months without the sweet unlimited plan. I see absolutely no sense in getting your kid his own phone line AT ALL. I didn't get one until I was 19 and I didn't die.

Maybe at 16 they can have one when they start driving as long as they pay the bill. But it's like parents these days can't just send the kid over to a friend's house even having that parent's number, because OH NO, they have to be able to call the kid directly, and vice versa. "But what if they need something?" For Christ's sake, I'm sure whatever it is, the other parent can take care of it or call you if it's really important.

If you are an ATT customer you can upgrade on a two year contract, and keep your unlimited data.  You  must have verizon.


Not what I was told a year ago. I was told if I renewed or changed ANYTHING on my account, I lost it.
 
2013-03-15 02:36:56 PM

asscorethethird: theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.

Exactly.  It's bad enough we have farking grown adults walking around like the living dead... PHONES...  PHONES...

Way to pass on the bad habit to your children.  I would be totally 100% happy if cell phones just went away.


You sound old.

/and sheltered
//and lonely
///bring back snail mail, and rotary phones, amirite?
////yeah yeah, get off my lawn...
 
2013-03-15 03:09:43 PM

theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.


He has those things too except the Lincoln Logs, do they still make those? He is quite capable of playing with things other than the iPod. He's not turning into a mindless drone because he uses it. He has learning apps on it and uses those and he also doesn't play on it all day and night. Yeesh. You people need to come out of the dark ages.
 
2013-03-15 03:11:31 PM

asscorethethird: See baby with iphone...

Go up to coont whore mother and punch her right in her coont whore mouth.

Take phone from baby and smash it on the ground.

Problem solved.


You sound like barrels of fun.
 
2013-03-15 03:12:35 PM

buckets_of_fun: theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.

You know....give him an activity that doesn't make him a mindless drone and requires thought and creativity.


You do know they make apps for children that allows them to learn and acquire new skills, right?
 
2013-03-15 03:12:55 PM

LoR75: asscorethethird: theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.

Exactly.  It's bad enough we have farking grown adults walking around like the living dead... PHONES...  PHONES...

Way to pass on the bad habit to your children.  I would be totally 100% happy if cell phones just went away.

You sound old.

/and sheltered
//and lonely
///bring back snail mail, and rotary phones, amirite?
////yeah yeah, get off my lawn...


I dont know, is 31 years old the new 50? //old
And married,  //lonely
with children, //lonely
and used to work for a vietnamese crime syndicate //sheltered

I've found the only people who defend being phone zombies are people who play with their farking phones all day.
 
2013-03-15 03:24:50 PM

katerbug72: learning apps


^people actually believe this
 
2013-03-15 03:33:24 PM
Okay as you smart-ass farkers. You tell me how he's supposed to show how cool he is, and impress all the other kids at daycare without an iPhone.
 
2013-03-15 03:41:50 PM
When I'm trying to play video games my cat won't leave me the fark alone, so I set up some nice cat games on my tablet and it entertains her for an hour or so.
 
2013-03-15 03:45:19 PM

Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this


Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.
 
2013-03-15 03:45:43 PM
Stupid enough to get an iPhone mom gives it to her kid to play on and it's stolen.

Electronic Darwinism I say.

/don't give an iCrap
 
2013-03-15 03:50:23 PM

katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this

Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.


So what you're teaching him is not how to behave but to be dependent on outside stimulus to get through the day.  Valuable lesson.
 
2013-03-15 03:58:56 PM

Yogimus: katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this

Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.

So what you're teaching him is not how to behave but to be dependent on outside stimulus to get through the day.  Valuable lesson.


Do you have kids?
 
2013-03-15 04:01:32 PM

asscorethethird: See baby with iphone...

Go up to coont whore mother and punch her right in her coont whore mouth.

Take phone from baby and smash it on the ground.

Problem solved.


We have gone full retard in this thread. Dear lord.
 
2013-03-15 04:04:27 PM

katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this

Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.

So what you're teaching him is not how to behave but to be dependent on outside stimulus to get through the day.  Valuable lesson.

Do you have kids?


Nevermind, I don't care if you do or don't. I don't give a crap what you think of my parenting skills.
 
2013-03-15 04:05:59 PM

katerbug72: Nevermind, I don't care if you do or don't. I don't give a crap what you think of my parenting skills.


I see there is hope for you yet.

/2 of em.
 
2013-03-15 04:07:15 PM

katerbug72: buckets_of_fun: theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.

You know....give him an activity that doesn't make him a mindless drone and requires thought and creativity.

You do know they make apps for children that allows them to learn and acquire new skills, right?


Math blaster does not equate the same type of skills and knowledge as acquired from building a huge lego base and smashing into it with your Tonka.
 
2013-03-15 04:16:04 PM

katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this

Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.


I am in my mid 40s and was born in the 60s.  I am also a network engineer and a technophile.  Oddly enough I remember in the good old days when children did not run around screaming if they were not given a digital pacifier.  A pair of car keys would suffice, or a smack on the bottom.

I remember the "dark ages" and the children were certainly better behaved than what I see now.

I remember once when I was a small child and I ran around willy nilly in a shopping center, and punched my grandmother in the knee, she promptly dropped my trousers and spanked me in front of everyone, and I never repeated the incident.

I recently spent 2 years mentoring graduating college students who were in the late teens and early 20s who grew up with smartphones and computers.  They were literally helpless if an application failed to work and their answer to everything was to turn the computer off and on, and pray to the digital gods out there that it would automagically fix itself.

Technology has taken away the building blocks of a proper education and upbringing.  It is up to parents to make sure they prepare their child to function in the world as adults without having to rely on "googling".

A device can be a learning tool but it should only be used after a basic skillset is acquired. Reward good behavior with the use of it, technology should never be used as a panacea for proper child rearing.  Rewarding bad behavior is the worst thing you can do to a child.

Robert Heinlein said it best
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly." "
 
2013-03-15 04:24:45 PM

Yogimus: katerbug72: Nevermind, I don't care if you do or don't. I don't give a crap what you think of my parenting skills.

I see there is hope for you yet.

/2 of em.


lol Gee, thanks. The kid is making forts out of couch cushions right now.
 
2013-03-15 04:39:33 PM
When you are at a restaurant and the food is taking a long time to come out, would you rather hear screaming kids or see a kid playing a game on an iphone?
 
2013-03-15 05:05:54 PM

ck819: When you are at a restaurant and the food is taking a long time to come out, would you rather hear screaming kids or see a kid playing a game on an iphone?


I would prefer the parent beat some discipline into the kid so it doesn't become an issue in the first place.
 
2013-03-15 05:31:44 PM

asscorethethird: LoR75: asscorethethird: theflatline: katerbug72: Watubi: I agree, a 3 year old does NOT need an iPhone.  An iPad or iTouch is far more appropriate.  It's also a great excuse for Dad to upgrade to the new model

This. My two and a half year old has taken over my iPod touch and now I would like to pass it on to him and get an iPad mini. The kid knows how to use it better than my husband and he's mostly careful with it.

Get him some lincoln logs, crayons, and coloring books.

Exactly.  It's bad enough we have farking grown adults walking around like the living dead... PHONES...  PHONES...

Way to pass on the bad habit to your children.  I would be totally 100% happy if cell phones just went away.

You sound old.

/and sheltered
//and lonely
///bring back snail mail, and rotary phones, amirite?
////yeah yeah, get off my lawn...

I dont know, is 31 years old the new 50? //old
And married,  //lonely
with children, //lonely
and used to work for a vietnamese crime syndicate //sheltered

I've found the only people who defend being phone zombies are people who play with their farking phones all day.



Heck, you're younger than I, but we have 2 of the next 3 items in common.  I'll let you figure out which two. :)

There's a difference between being a phone zombie and just having a cell phone.  I agree that phone zombies are the scourge of the earth, however I see many of those zombies are in their 30s and really didn't grow up with cell phones.  Pagers, yes...cell phones not so much.  We grew up with TV, videogames, and computers.  We had our own horrible zombie habits.

If you are a zombie, glued to your phone and walking into things (or traffic) then yes, I agree with your "way to pass on your bad habit" comment.

However, if you just have a cell phone, and are not glued to it every 30 seconds, I don't see any harm in allowing your young one to play around with it sparingly.  Technology is not a parenting replacement/subsitute though.

Get your kids outside, keep them active.  Educate them on various subjects as much as possible AND teach them about technology they will undoubtedly use.  Our close friend's 5 year old is already doing Khan Academy stuff on their iPad.  Super smart kid, but they ensure that his iPad usage regulated.  He is also learning how to play the guitar.


/proud dad of a 4 month old
//he already knows how to turn on his mobile
 
2013-03-15 06:01:02 PM

theflatline: katerbug72: Yogimus: katerbug72: learning apps

^people actually believe this

Do you think there is only one way to learn something? He uses it when he has to go to the grocery store with me or the doctor's office. He uses it when otherwise he would be running around and annoying other people a these places. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
I'm not a phone zombie as I don't even own a smartphone. I keep having to put minutes on my pay-as-you-go shiat phone so I keep the rollover because I never use it.
Just because a kid uses an iPod or iPhone does not make him a mindless drone. It's just another way to learn. Like I said, come out of the dark ages already. I don't condone the assholes who use these things in the company of others or endanger theirs or others lives because they can't look up but they do have their usefulness in the right situation.

I am in my mid 40s and was born in the 60s.  I am also a network engineer and a technophile.  Oddly enough I remember in the good old days when children did not run around screaming if they were not given a digital pacifier.  A pair of car keys would suffice, or a smack on the bottom.

I remember the "dark ages" and the children were certainly better behaved than what I see now.

I remember once when I was a small child and I ran around willy nilly in a shopping center, and punched my grandmother in the knee, she promptly dropped my trousers and spanked me in front of everyone, and I never repeated the incident.

I recently spent 2 years mentoring graduating college students who were in the late teens and early 20s who grew up with smartphones and computers.  They were literally helpless if an application failed to work and their answer to everything was to turn the computer off and on, and pray to the digital gods out there that it would automagically fix itself.

Technology has taken away the building blocks of a proper education and upbringing.  It is up to parents to make sure they prepare their child to f ...



I agree with just about everything you've stated..however your observation of the Me Generation brings up a point.

Late teens, early 20s?  They're millennials, and their issues go far beyond growing up with smartphones and computers. They are all about instant gratification with as little effort as possible.

So to use your CSB, their helplessness regarding an application failing to work isn't wholly atrributed to growing up with technology, no matter how much you think it is.  It's that instant gratification kicking in.  "It's not working, I want it to work now, let's reboot!".  I am curious if after rebooting, and it still didn't work, did they just give up or become disinterested?

Many of kids in this generation grew up fairly sheltered by their parents, regardless of technology.  I think I once read an article that described these kids as Trophy Kids and have shown to delay their maturity (or growing up) for as long as possible because they love that shelter and support that their Helicopter Parents give them.
 
2013-03-15 06:46:49 PM

Carth: Most of the time it is either the parent's old phone after they upgraded.


or?
 
2013-03-15 10:17:12 PM

LoR75: So to use your CSB, their helplessness regarding an application failing to work isn't wholly atrributed to growing up with technology, no matter how much you think it is. It's that instant gratification kicking in. "It's not working, I want it to work now, let's reboot!". I am curious if after rebooting, and it still didn't work, did they just give up or become disinterested?


I find that kids of this generation give up very quickly if they can't do something perfectly right the first time.
 
2013-03-15 11:25:02 PM

HMS_Blinkin: Don't give expensive or valuable things to toddlers.  In fact, don't give ANYTHING to a toddler unless you are ok with it being lost, damaged, or broken.


And given what kids do when they get into stuff is yet another reason not to have any.

If some kid started messing with and/or breaking stuff in my studio...yeah...no bueno
 
2013-03-16 03:09:47 AM
Can everyone quit the bickering and concentrate on more important things!?

What's his high score?
 
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