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2013-03-15 03:51:13 PM  
Angel Hernandez has been one of the worst officials in major pro sports, for a long time.
 
2013-03-15 03:53:48 PM  
sadly i think it's up to the people at Fangraphs and BR to fight to get rid of the bad umps. The league tolerates their self-aggrandizing BS and managers and players fear retribution, so basically umps get to be jackasses without being called out for it.

If the stats community starts quantifying and shaming bad umps then we might see some change in playoff assignments and promotions/demotions. I'd like to see box scores list a rating for the home plate ump each game -- e.g. 77% accurate or whatever. We should also have a blown-call tracker (like number of errors). Finally, FG or BR should hand out annual awards to the best umps.

If the fans care enough about the issue the league might notice. Right now there is no pressure because "it's part of the game".
 
2013-03-15 03:58:29 PM  

Gosling: downstairs: phyrkrakr: Didn't Angel Hernandez once eject a guy who was singing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" at Wrigley?

Not sure if it was him, but yes- Steve McMichael, formerly of the Bears, did get ejected after giving the ump some crap after the song.

The end of that game was so awesome.

So awesome.


White Sox fan here, but damn I would have loved to have seen that live.  That is awesome.
 
2013-03-15 05:20:08 PM  
Fark it all. We have digital video. We could set the plate with sensors, and add in the heights and weights of the batter.A Box is a box..
 
2013-03-15 06:26:24 PM  

TunaTacoTaster: Eric Gregg would have been proud.


Except Hernandez was closer to the strike zone than Eric Gregg ever was, what a stupid fat fark, MLB should strip the marlins of that title since he didn't give the braves a chance in that game.
 
2013-03-15 06:32:19 PM  

EJ25T: TunaTacoTaster: Eric Gregg would have been proud.

One of these days I want to see that whole Livan game in its entirety, you know... just for laughs.


You don't have too, just search for the final strike call against mcgriff, the ball is over a foot away from the plate inside the other batters box and nowhere near the farking plate. Gregg calls it a strike to end the game, I'm glad that fat fark is dead and I hope his blubber is still burning.
 
2013-03-15 06:48:13 PM  
Baseball is serious business, even when the strike call was in favor of the "home team."
 
2013-03-15 07:06:44 PM  
David Wright will miss rest of WBC with an intercostal sprain
 
2013-03-15 07:36:36 PM  

LemSkroob: nah. the reason the soccer WC is so big is because its the world series of soccer. the soccer counterpart IS the world series.


Not really. The World Series is much more comparable to the Champions League in soccer. The club teams are much more of a thing than the national teams. The better comparison would be the NBA Finals as opposed to the Olympics, although that's an imperfect analogy.
 
2013-03-15 08:16:00 PM  

Gosling: downstairs: phyrkrakr: Didn't Angel Hernandez once eject a guy who was singing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" at Wrigley?

Not sure if it was him, but yes- Steve McMichael, formerly of the Bears, did get ejected after giving the ump some crap after the song.

The end of that game was so awesome.

So awesome.


Jesus Christ that's farked up.
 
2013-03-15 08:36:38 PM  
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2013-03-15 08:59:24 PM  
Vinnie Pestano, ladies and gentlemen!

And Team USA is on track to get bounced prematurely once again. Because seriously, we suited up Vinnie Pestano.
 
2013-03-15 09:19:04 PM  

steamingpile: EJ25T: TunaTacoTaster: Eric Gregg would have been proud.

One of these days I want to see that whole Livan game in its entirety, you know... just for laughs.

You don't have too, just search for the final strike call against mcgriff, the ball is over a foot away from the plate inside the other batters box and nowhere near the farking plate. Gregg calls it a strike to end the game, I'm glad that fat fark is dead and I hope his blubber is still burning.


Thanks You, I couldn't have said it better.....
 
2013-03-15 09:20:58 PM  
I said before, David Wright seemed to be the one guy on the team that actually gave a shiat. The team has no life without him.
 
2013-03-15 09:39:09 PM  
..and Adam Jones called out on a pitch low and well off the plate
 
2013-03-15 10:26:34 PM  
Bunting with Pagan? Did Joe Torre start managing both teams?
 
2013-03-15 10:34:26 PM  
Well, the announcers were right that it would take more than one run for them to beat the U.S.  Good thing they got those other three.

Fark.
 
2013-03-15 10:34:28 PM  
So I guess the WBC IS like the World Cup, at least the pre-1994 era: the US doesn't give a shiat, sends a team vastly inferior to potential and goes out embarrassingly early over and over again.
 
2013-03-15 10:37:36 PM  

AngryDesertDweller: steamingpile: EJ25T: TunaTacoTaster: Eric Gregg would have been proud.

One of these days I want to see that whole Livan game in its entirety, you know... just for laughs.

You don't have too, just search for the final strike call against mcgriff, the ball is over a foot away from the plate inside the other batters box and nowhere near the farking plate. Gregg calls it a strike to end the game, I'm glad that fat fark is dead and I hope his blubber is still burning.

Thanks You, I couldn't have said it better.....


I got curious and googled, turned up this writeup, complete with some gifs.
 
2013-03-15 10:42:30 PM  

Gosling: So I guess the WBC IS like the World Cup, at least the pre-1994 era: the US doesn't give a shiat, sends a team vastly inferior to potential and goes out embarrassingly early over and over again.


Who exactly aren't we sending?

That's not to say you're wrong or anything.  I'm lazy and haven't looked at the rosters.
 
2013-03-15 10:58:46 PM  

Dafatone: Gosling: So I guess the WBC IS like the World Cup, at least the pre-1994 era: the US doesn't give a shiat, sends a team vastly inferior to potential and goes out embarrassingly early over and over again.

Who exactly aren't we sending?

That's not to say you're wrong or anything.  I'm lazy and haven't looked at the rosters.


David Wright was the star of the team. That should tell you something.
 
2013-03-15 10:58:51 PM  

Dafatone: Gosling: So I guess the WBC IS like the World Cup, at least the pre-1994 era: the US doesn't give a shiat, sends a team vastly inferior to potential and goes out embarrassingly early over and over again.

Who exactly aren't we sending?

That's not to say you're wrong or anything.  I'm lazy and haven't looked at the rosters.


The pitching staff alone should have read Verlander/Kershaw/Sale/Buehrle/Dickey and instead read Dickey/Vogelsong/Derek Holland/Gio Gonzalez/we were really counting on Verlander to say yes and when he said no we said fark it and left the 5-hole blank.
 
2013-03-15 11:01:34 PM  
More like Vogelsuck, amirite?

/no I don't think that because of of my fandom, why would you ask?
 
2013-03-15 11:02:22 PM  
So, who is everyone's (that still cares) pick?

Two-time defending champ Japan?
The upstart Dutch?
Powerhouse Domincana?
Gave-slightly-more-of-a-shiat-than-the-US Puerto Rico?
 
2013-03-15 11:16:59 PM  

The Bestest: So, who is everyone's (that still cares) pick?

Two-time defending champ Japan?
The upstart Dutch?
Powerhouse Domincana?
Gave-slightly-more-of-a-shiat-than-the-US Puerto Rico?


Japan has no MLB players this year. I don't know who the Dutch have. PR doesn't impress me, especially their pen. So I'll pick the Dominicans.
 
2013-03-15 11:20:22 PM  

The Bestest: So, who is everyone's (that still cares) pick?

Two-time defending champ Japan?
The upstart Dutch?
Powerhouse Domincana?
Gave-slightly-more-of-a-shiat-than-the-US Puerto Rico?


The Dutch have the advantage of having someone to maybe knock down Japan for them because Japan has the Netherlands' number. If the two meet in the finals again, Japan threepeats. They're still the favorite until they get knocked off.

My power ranking goes Japan, DR, Netherlands, Puerto Rico, but any pairing other than Japan/Netherlands could go either way. And Kenta Maeda is going to get a gigantic posting fee for Hiroshima Toyo Carp.
 
2013-03-15 11:28:01 PM  

desertgeek: Japan has no MLB players this year.


That don't mean a damn thing. They're not MLB players NOW, but get to know the names because at least one or two of them will be soon. The WBC was how we found Yu Darvish, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Koji Uehara, Norichika Aoki, Hisashi Iwakuma, Akinori Iwamura, Kosuke Fukudome, Munenori Kawasaki, Tsuyoshi Nishioka, Yasuhiko Yabuka, and coming soon Hiroyuki Nakajima. I'm probably missing a few.
 
2013-03-15 11:33:40 PM  
Japan has the best all-around team in my eyes.
DR has a killer lineup, but their pitching doesn't blow me away (and they're a little prone to sloppy defense)
The Netherlands doesn't really have any big names (their DH is Fat Andruw), but they're pretty well rounded and have all the pieces that make a decent -team-.
I'll concur that PR seems to be the weakest of the four, despite having a few big names.
 
2013-03-15 11:35:18 PM  
Umpire Angel Hernandez

All I needed to see.
 
2013-03-16 02:20:09 AM  

usernameguy: Umpire Angel Hernandez

All I needed to see.


C.B. Bucknor could have made that call as well.
 
2013-03-16 02:49:47 AM  

Gosling: Dafatone: Gosling: So I guess the WBC IS like the World Cup, at least the pre-1994 era: the US doesn't give a shiat, sends a team vastly inferior to potential and goes out embarrassingly early over and over again.

Who exactly aren't we sending?

That's not to say you're wrong or anything.  I'm lazy and haven't looked at the rosters.

The pitching staff alone should have read Verlander/Kershaw/Sale/Buehrle/Dickey and instead read Dickey/Vogelsong/Derek Holland/Gio Gonzalez/we were really counting on Verlander to say yes and when he said no we said fark it and left the 5-hole blank.


Verlander and Kershaw didn't go.  That sucks.  Sale had a huge year, is poised to be great, and would have been a great addition. But Gio's fantastic, and Dickey/Gio is still as good a one-two punch as there is out there.  I mean, barring Verlander/Kershaw, but oh well.

The Bestest: David Wright was the star of the team. That should tell you something.


That Wright tends to step up when surrounded by other stars (best year being 2007 when the Mets had a good lineup, and his allstar game numbers are huge) and that there really aren't many great third basemen, let alone American ones.
 
2013-03-16 08:03:17 AM  

The Bestest: Dafatone: Gosling: So I guess the WBC IS like the World Cup, at least the pre-1994 era: the US doesn't give a shiat, sends a team vastly inferior to potential and goes out embarrassingly early over and over again.

Who exactly aren't we sending?

That's not to say you're wrong or anything.  I'm lazy and haven't looked at the rosters.

David Wright was the star of the team. That should tell you something.


Well, Wright is awesome. The bigger problem was Willie Bloomquist starting as Wright's backup the other day. Not Chase Headley or Ryan Zimmerman. Not even David Freese. Willie Bloomquist - who is 35 years old and couldn't play when he was 25 years old.

Dafatone: Verlander and Kershaw didn't go.  That sucks.  Sale had a huge year, is poised to be great, and would have been a great addition. But Gio's fantastic, and Dickey/Gio is still as good a one-two punch as there is out there.  I mean, barring Verlander/Kershaw, but oh well.


Vogelsong is the 4th starter on SF's depth chart. The three ahead of him are Americans (difficulty: one is Lincecum, and no one knows what the hell will happen there).
 
2013-03-16 08:07:55 AM  

The Bestest: So, who is everyone's (that still cares) pick?

Two-time defending champ Japan?
The upstart Dutch?
Powerhouse Domincana?
Gave-slightly-more-of-a-shiat-than-the-US Puerto Rico?


Go Puerto Rico! Because it's America......sort of
 
2013-03-16 08:26:32 AM  

BunkoSquad: That's not an umpire; that's Enrico Pallazzo.


Came for this
 
2013-03-16 11:49:18 AM  

robertus: AngryDesertDweller: steamingpile: EJ25T: TunaTacoTaster: Eric Gregg would have been proud.

One of these days I want to see that whole Livan game in its entirety, you know... just for laughs.

You don't have too, just search for the final strike call against mcgriff, the ball is over a foot away from the plate inside the other batters box and nowhere near the farking plate. Gregg calls it a strike to end the game, I'm glad that fat fark is dead and I hope his blubber is still burning.

Thanks You, I couldn't have said it better.....

I got curious and googled, turned up this writeup, complete with some gifs.


Good research, I watched that game and the last strike was a complete joke with Gregg calling a strike then dancing around. If I remember rite that was the year the umps were trying to form their own union and have major league baseball hire them (don't flame me it was a long time ago). The umps handed in the resignations and joined the union to force MLB to hire them, but MLB said screw you and brought in other guys.  I think Gregg never umped a game again so maybe he knew the end was near and wanted to have his name tied to a piece of MLB history ?
 
2013-03-16 01:26:46 PM  

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: [cdn1.hark.com image 720x480]
"Hey! It's Enrico Pallazzo!"


Is that the guy who stole PeeWee's bike?
 
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2013-03-16 06:32:48 PM  
Angel Hernandez is such an asshole! He, like Joe West, should be removed from their position as a MLB umpire.
 
2013-03-18 09:01:31 AM  

mcmnky: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: [cdn1.hark.com image 720x480]
"Hey! It's Enrico Pallazzo!"

Is that the guy who stole PeeWee's bike?


Why yes, I believe he is.
 
2013-03-18 10:03:18 AM  

LemSkroob: nwave: Does anybody think that WBC could one day reach the soccer World Cup level?


nah. the reason the soccer WC is so big is because its the world series of soccer. the soccer counterpart IS the world series.

Take a look at other sports. in the NHL, nobody gives a crap about the hockey world cup, world championships  and only marginally even cares about the Olympics.

NBA too. the finals are far more important to a basketball fan than the Olympics.

As long as there is a World Series, the WC will never be important.


That's wrong. The analog to the World Series for soccer would be the Champions League. That's where the best clubs in the world compete every year.

The World Cup is once every 4 years and includes national teams where players rarely play with each other. The World Cup is like the WBC, not like the World Series.
 
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